Commons:Administradores

Esta página explica el rol de administradores (también denominados sysops) en Wikimedia Commons. Los alcances de este rol y la forma en que se nombran administradores difiere de otros proyectos de la Fundación Wikimedia.

Si necesita ayuda de administradores por favor acuda a Commons:Administrators' noticeboard.

En este momento hay 263 administradores en Commons.

¿Qué es un administrador?

Administrators as of February 2012 [+/−]

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Number of Admins: 263 32X, de, en-2, hsb-1, ru-1 99of9, en (bureaucrat) á, fi, en-2, sv-2 A.Savin, ru, de-4, en-2 ABF, de, en-2, la-1, fr-1 Admrboltz, en, es-1 Adrignola, en AFBorchert, de, en-3 Ahonc, uk, ru-4, en-2, de-1 Aka, de, en-3 Ala z, pl, en-2, ru-1 ALE!, de, en-3, es-3, fr-1, it-1 Alhen, es, en-2 Aliman5040, es, fr-4, de-2, en-1, it-1 Alison, en, ga-3, fr-2, gd-1 Alno, fr, en-3, es-2, pt-1 Alpertron, es, en-3 Amada44, de, en-3, fr-1 AndreasPraefcke, de, en-3, fr-1 Andrew c, en Angr, en, de-4, fr-2, ga-2, la-2, cy-1 AnRo0002, de, en-2, fr-2, es-1 Anthere, fr, en-3 Aude, en, ar-3 Avraham, en, he-2 (oversighter, steward) AVRS, ru, en-2, eo-2 Axpde, de, en-4, es-1, fr-1, it-1, nl-1 (steward) AzaToth, sv, en-4 Badseed, el, en-3, it-1 Bapti, fr, en-3, de-2 Barcex, es, en-2, fr-1 Bastique, en, fr-3, es-2, la-2, ga-1 Bdk, de, en-2 Bencmq, zh, en-3 (steward) Beria, pt, en-2, es-2 Bidgee, en Billinghurst, en Blacklake, ru, en-2 Blurpeace, en, es-1 Butko, ru, uk-2, en-1 Cambalachero, es, en-3 Captain-tucker, en Cbrown1023, en Cecil, de, en-3, fr-2, es-1, fi-1 (bureaucrat) Chatama, ja, en-1 Chris 73, de, en-3, ja-1 ChrisiPK, de, en-3, fr-1 ChristianBier, de, en-3 Ciell, nl, en-2, de-1 Cirt, en, es-2 Common Good, en CommonsDelinkerHelper (bot) Cookie, es, en-2 Courcelles, en, es-2, fr-2 Coyau, fr, en-1 DaB., de, en-1 Dantadd, it, pt, en-3, es-3, fr-3, gl-3, ca-2, ro-1, el-1 Darwinius, pt, en-3, es-2, fr-2, gl-2, ca-1, it-1, oc-1 Davepape, en David Levy, en Dcoetzee, en, fr-2, et-1, af-0 Denniss, de, en-2, fr-1 Dereckson, fr, en-3, de-1, nl-1 DieBuche, de, en-4, la-3, it-1 D-Kuru, de, en-2, it-1 Dodo, es, en-2 Dschwen, de, en-3, fr-1 Ecemaml, es, en-3 Edgar181, en, de-1, fr-1, es-1 Effeietsanders, nl, en-3, de-1, fr-1, la-1 Ejdzej, pl, en-2 Elcobbola en, de Elya, de, en-3, uk-2, ru-1 EPO, da, en-3, de-1 Esby, fr, en-3, de-1 EugeneZelenko, ru, be, en-2, bg-1, pl-1 (bureaucrat) EVula, en Ezarate, es-3, en-1 Fanghong, zh, en-2, fr-1 Fastily, en, fr-2, zh-2 Flominator, de, als, en-3 Foroa, vls, nl, en-3, fr-2 FunkMonk, da, en-4, no-3, fo-2, sv-2, de-1, es-1 Geagea, he, ka-3, en-3, ru-1 Geni, en George Chernilevsky, ru, uk-3, de-2, en-2, bg-1, la-1, be-1, fr-1 GeorgHH, de, en-1 Gestumblindi, als, de, en-3 Gmaxwell, en Gnangarra, en Golbez, en, ja-2 Greudin, fr, en-2, de-1 grin, hu, en-3, de-1 Gruznov, ru, en-1, fr-1 Guandalug, de, en-3 guillom, fr, en-3, de-1 Harej, en, fr-3 Herbythyme, en, fr-2, es-1, it-1 (checkuser) Herr Kriss, pl, en-2 Hesperian, en High Contrast, de, en-3, fr-1 Howcheng, en, ja-2 H-stt, de, en-4, fr-1 Ilmari Karonen, fi, en-3, sv-2, de-1, fr-1 Infrogmation, en, es-1 JDavid, pl, en-2, de-1 J Milburn, en Jafeluv, fi, en-4, fr-3, de-2, ru-2, sv-2 Jameslwoodward, en, fr-1 (checkuser) Jarekt, pl, en Jastrow, fr, en-3, de-1, it-1 Jcornelius, de, lt-2, la-2, en-2, pt-2, fr-1 Jdforrester, en Jean-Frédéric, fr, en-4, es-1 JeremyA, en JGHowes, en, fr-2, de-1 Jmabel, en, es-3, ro-2, de-1, ca-1, it-1, pt-1, fr-1 Joergens.mi, de, en-3 John Vandenberg, en Juliancolton, en (bureaucrat) Julo, pl, en-2, de-1, ru-1 Jusjih, zh, en-3, fr-1 (bureaucrat, steward) Kaldari, en Kallerna, fi, en-3, sv-2, de-1 Kameraad Pjotr, nl, en-3, de-2, fr-2, la-2, grc-2 Kanonkas, no, en-4, nn-3, da-2, sv-2, de-1 (bureaucrat) Killiondude, en, es-3, ru-1 Kjetil r, no, en-3, eo-2, de-1 Klemen Kocjancic, sl, en-3, de-2, hr-1, bs-1 Krinkle, nl, en-3, de-2 KTo288, en, zh-4 Kved, es, en-3 Kwj2772, ko, en-2 Kyro, fr, de-3, en-2 Leafnode, pl, en-3, ja-2, de-1 Leit, de, en-3, fr-1 LERK, ja, en-2, ko-2, ko-han-3, de-1, es-1, fr-1 Lestath, pl, en-2, la-1 Leyo, gsw, de, en-3, fr-3, es-1, la-1 Logan, en, es-3 Lokal Profil, sv, en-4, pt-2, fr-1 LtPowers, en, es-1 Ludmiła Pilecka, pl, en-2, ru-1 Ludo29, fr, en-2 Lukasz Lukomski, pl, en-4, es-2 Lupo, de, en-3, fr-2, es-1, it-1 Luxo, gsw, de-4, en-1, fr-1 Lymantria, nl, de-2, en-2, fy-2, fr-1, zea-1 Magister Mathematicae, es, en-4, pt-1 (checkuser, steward) Magnus Manske, de, en-2 Maire, pl, en-4, es-2, fr-2, de-2, ru-1 MarcoAurelio, es, en-3, fr-2 (steward) Marcus Cyron, de, en-1 Mardetanha fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1 (checkuser, steward) Martin H., de, en-2 (checkuser) Masur, pl, en-3, de-1 Matanya, en, he (steward) Matt314, de, en-3, fr-2, es-1, zh-1 Mattbuck, en, fr-1, la-1 Maxim, ru, en-3, fr-2 Mbdortmund, de, en-2, fr-2, la-1 MBisanz, en Mentifisto, en (steward) MGA73, da, en-3, de-2, sv-1, no-1 Micheletb, fr, en-3, it-1, es-1 Micki, sr, bs-4, hr-3, en-2 Mitchazenia, en, es-2 Miya, ja, en-2 Mmxx, fa, en-3 Morgankevinj, en, es-1, la-1 Mormegil, cs, en-2, de-1 Morning Sunshine, vi, en-2 MPF, en, da-2, de-1, fr-1 Multichill, nl, en-3, de-1, fr-1 Mys 721tx, zh, en-3 Myself488, de, en-3, la-2 Nagy, de, en-3, fr-2, es-1, sv-1 Neozoon, de, en-4, nl-4, fr-2 NEUROtiker de en-3, fr-1 Nilfanion, en, fr-1 notafish, fr, en-4, de-3, es-2, it-2 NuclearWarfare en, es-2 O, zh, en-4, zh-wuu-2, zh-hu-3, yue-1 fr-1 odder, pl, en-2, de-2 Okki, fr, en-2 Otourly, fr, en-2, it-1 PeterSymonds, en, de-1 (steward) Pharos, en, fr-1 PierreSelim, fr, en-3, es-1 Pitke, fi, en-4, sv-2 Platonides, es, en-2, fr-1 Podzemnik, cs, en-2 Polarlys, de, en-2, fr-1, no-1 Powerek38, pl, en-4, fr-2, es-1, de-1 Pruneau, fr, en-4, de-1 Putnik, ru, en-2 ~Pyb, fr, en-2 Pymouss, fr, en-3, de-2, it-2, he-1 Ragesoss, en, de-1, fr-1 Ra'ike, de, en-2 Rama, fr, en-3, de-2, la-2, es-1, it-1, ja-1 (oversighter) Rastrojo, es, en-3, fr-2, eo-1 Raul654, en, es-1 Raymond, de, en-3, nl-1 (oversighter) Rd232, en, de, es-2, fr-1 Rehman, en, si-1 Reinhard Kraasch, de, en-3 Rillke, de, en-2, fr-1 Rimshot, de, en-4, fr-2, it-1 Rocket000, en, es-1 Romaine, nl, en-3, de-2, af-1, fr-1 Rosenzweig, de, en-3, fr-1, la-1 Royalbroil, en, es-1 Rubin16, ru, tt, en-3 Rüdiger Wölk, de, en-2 Russavia, en, ru-3 (bureaucrat) Saibo, de, en-3, la-1 Sanbec, es, en-1, fr-1 Sandstein, als, de, en-4, fr-3, it-1 SatuSuro, en, id-1 Sfu, pl, en-2 ShakataGaNai, en Shizhao, zh, en-1, ru-1 (steward) Siebrand, nl, en-3, fr-1, de-1 Skeezix1000, en, fr-2 Slomox, de, en-2 Spangineer, en, es-3 Spiritia, bg, en-3, ru-2, mk-2, de-1 Stan Shebs, en, de-1 Steven Walling, en Stifle, en, ga, fr-2, de-1 str4nd, fi, en-2, sv-2 Szczepan1990, pl, en-2 Tabercil, en Tarawneh, en, ar, de-1 TheDJ, nl, en-3, de-1, fr-1 The Evil IP address, de, en-3, fr-2 Thuresson, sv, en-3, no-2 Tiptoety, en (checkuser, oversighter) Tom, en, es-1 Trijnstel, nl, en-4, de-1, fr-1 (steward) Trixt, it, en-2, fr-1 tsca, pl, en, da Túrelio, de, en-3, es-1 VIGNERON, fr, de-2, en-2, zh-1 Waldir, pt, en-3 Wikitanvir, bn, en-3, as-2, bpy-1 (steward) WJBscribe, en, fr-3, de-1 Wknight94, en Wsiegmund, en, fr-1, es-1 Wutsje, fy, nl, en-3, de-2, fr-1 Wuzur, de, en-3 wvk, de, en-4, fa-3, fr-2 Yann, fr, en-3, hi-2, gu-1 Yuval Y, he, en-3 Zirland, cs, pl-3, en-3, sk-2, eo-2 Zolo, fr, en-4, de-2, zh-2 ZooFari, en, es-3 Zscout370, en, be-1, es-1, ja-1, ru-1 Zyephyrus, fr, en-3, la-3, el-2 Zzyzx11, en, es-1, fr-1 Raindrift, Temporary adminship: "As a developer, needs to run tests, delete files, etc." No exact expiry date. KrinkleBot, Bot account; temporary adminship for testing, see also Commons:Bots/Requests/KrinkleBot (2). The system currently recognizes 263 administrators. If that is not the last number in the list above, there is an error in the list.

Aspecto técnico

Los administradores son usuarios que tienen la posibilidad de:

• borrar y restaurar imágenes y otros archivos, y poder ver y restaurar versiones borradas
• borrar y restaurar páginas, y ver y restaurar versiones borradas de las mismas
• proteger y desproteger páginas y editar páginas protegidas por administradores
• bloquear y desbloquear usuarios, individuos que acceden a través de una dirección de IP o todo un rango de direcciones de IP
• editar el espacio de nombres Mediawiki

Éstas son las herramientas administrativas.

Rol en la comunidad

Los administradores son miembros con experiencia que realizan trabajos de mantenimiento. La comunidad de Commons les deposita su confianza y les da las herramientas administrativas a través del consenso público y el voto. Los administradores tienen su propia área de interés y experiencia, pero las tareas típicas consisten en la determinación y el cierre de los pedidos de borrado, borrar violaciones de derechos de autor, restaurar archivos cuando es necesario, proteger Commons del vandalismo, y trabajar en plantillas y otras páginas protegidas. Por supuesto, algunas de estas tareas pueden ser hechas también por otros usuarios que no son administradores.

Los administradores deben estar preparados para entender las metas de este proyecto, y para trabajar constructivamente con otros para lograr estos fines. Los administradores también deben entender y aplicar las políticas de Commons, y donde sea necesario respetar el consenso comunitario.

Aparte de los roles que requieren el uso de las herramientas administrativas, los administradores no tienen autoridad editorial por el mero hecho de poseer ese rol, y sus contribuciones en discusiones y votaciones se tratan de la misma manera que las de cualquier otro editor. Por supuesto, algunos administradores son influyentes, pero eso tiene que ver no con su posición sino con la confianza personal que ganaron en la comunidad.

¿Cómo me convierto en administrador?

Antes que nada, asegúrese si ser administrador es la mejor forma de contribuir al proyecto. La experiencia muestra que los usuarios que contribuyen excelente material muchas veces reducen estas contribuciones debido a la sobrecarga de trabajo luego de convertirse en administradores, y eso es lo que menos necesita el proyecto. Por favor colabore en lo que mejor sepa hacer y entienda que hay muchas formas de obtener el crédito de la comunidad aparte de ser administrador.

Ser administrador en Commons no es un premio por haber realizado contribuciones excelentes, sino que es sólo un conjunto de herramientas que le sirven a los usuarios que desean limpiar Commons.

Considere si realmente va a necesitar las herramientas administrativas para el trabajo que piensa realizar. La comunidad no le dará estas herramientas a aquéllos que no las necesitan o que probablemente no hagan uso de ellas. Así que, si sólo necesitará estas herramientas por un plazo limitado, o si desea borrar sus propias contribuciones, simplemente pídale a otro administrador que lo ayude.

Se espera que los administradores se encuentren razonablemente activos en este proyecto, y si cesa de usar las herramientas por un período prolongado, las perderá automáticamente de acuerdo a nuestra política de revocación de los privilegios de administrador. Como administrador se espera que esté disponible en Commons (una página de usuario que le pide a la gente que le deje mensajes en otro proyecto no se considera una práctica aceptable para un administrador).

Se puede leer más información sobre los roles en la comunidad de los administradores en la guía para administradores.

No hay reglas fijadas en piedra sobre el tiempo mínimo que un usuario debe haber estado activo en Commons para poder ser administrador, ni tampoco una cantidad mínima de ediciones. Sin embargo, se requiere que el requerimiento que sea un miembro experimentado y confiable de la comunidad de Commons significa que antes de comenzar la candidatura deberá tener suficiente experiencia como para demostrarlo. Si es un administrador o usuario experimentado en otro proyecto, menciónelo, pero tenga en cuenta que con la experiencia fuera de Commons solamente no alcanza.

Aunque no sea mandatorio, generalmente es una buena idea hablar con otros administradores para verificar si tiene suficiente experiencia. De esta manera es posible que otro administrador lo nomine, aunque también se aceptan autonominaciones.

Cuando se presente como candidato a administrador, la comunidad considerará su capacidad para cumplir el rol de administrador. Los miembros de la comunidad tienen diferentes expectativas de los candidatos, por lo que es conveniente revisar algunas candidaturas archivadas para saber qué es lo que busca la gente. En la práctica, los usuarios quieren ver un nivel razonable de participación en actividades de tipo administrativas como pedidos de borrado, etiquetar correctamente violaciones de derecho de autor, patrulla de nuevos usuarios, etc. Los usuarios también querrán ver que ud. es un miembro integral de Commons y observarán cómo interactúa con otros en páginas de discusión y otros lugares.

Discusión pública y votación

Las candidaturas a administrador duran generalmente siete días en los que se vota y se exponen comentarios. Este período comienza cuando escribe su nominación (si es una autonominación) o su aceptación (si algún otro usuario lo nominó). Al final de ese período un burócrata cerrará la candidatura y dará o declinará la promoción. La candidatura puede durar más de siete días, si el burócrata lo considera conveniente.

La promoción requiere al menos un 75% de votos de usuarios a favor, con un mínimo de 4 votos positivos. No se cuentan los votos de usuarios no registrados. Sin embargo, el burócrata que cierra la candidatura tiene discreción para juzgar el consenso comunitario y la decisión no se basa totalmente en los números indicados arriba. Entre otras cosas, este burócrata tendrá en cuenta el peso de los argumentos presentados y la experiencia y conocimento de los usuarios que comentan. Por ejemplo, los comentarios y votos de los usuarios que tienen cero o pocas contribuciones pueden ser descontados a criterio del burócrata.

Si la nominación es exitosa, el burócrata le dará los derechos de administrador.

Pedidos para ser administrador

Cuando esté listo, asegúrese de tener una página de usuario, habilite el correo electrónico en sus preferencias, y luego lance su candidatura o pídale a su nominador que lo haga en la página Commons:Administradores.

Sugerencias para administradores

Por favor lea la guía para administradores.

Remoción de derechos de administrador

De acuerdo a la política de revocación de los privilegios de administrador, estos derechos pueden revocarse por inactividad o uso inadecuado de las herramientas administrativas.

Para ser candidato a administrador

Antes que nada, debe leer la información que se encuentra en Commons:Administradores/Sugerencias. Luego vuelva aquí y lance su candidatura de la siguiente manera:

• Después de apretar el botón y crear la subpágina, copie el enlace a dicha subpágina, por ejemplo "Commons:Administrators/Requests/Nombreusuario", edite Commons:Administrators/Requests y péguelo al principio de la sección, luego coloque este texto entre llaves dobles (por ejemplo {{Commons:Administrators/Requests/Nombreusuario}} ) para transcluirlo.

• Si algún otro usuario lo nominó, por favor acéptelo indicando "I accept", "Acepto" o algo similar, y firmando debajo de la nominación. De todas maneras deberá ud. o el proponente transcluir la subpágina.

Use la caja que se muestra abajo, reemplazando Nombreusuario por su nombre de usuario:

Las votaciones concluidas están en Commons:Administrators/Archive.

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Requests for adminship

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When complete, pages listed here should be archived to Commons:Administrators/Archive.

• Please read Commons:Administrators before voting here. Any logged in user may vote, although those who have few or no previous edits may not be fully counted.

Wpedzich

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Wpedzich (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · recent activity · logs · block log · global contribs · SULinfo)

Scheduled to end: 19:18, 22 February 2012(2012-02-22) (UTC)

Hello. I would like to put forward my candidacy for a Commons adminship.

I am mainly active as a Polish Wikipedian and Wikimedian, also as a Wikimedia steward, all in all for more than five years. As to my Commons interests, I found certain categories (old 8-bit computers of which I have been fond for several years quite messy, so I started shuffling things around - recategorising, moving some images to more appropriate names, changing category names, and such, see my contribs page for details. Administrator tools could be quite helpful there, to proceed with this housekeeping more smoothly and not to engage the attention of other admins.

The second reason for this RfA is the fact that I am an OTRS team member and because of this I have been asked questions of the sort What's hiding under ticket number such-and-such? Is it properly worded CC-by-sa-3.0 statement? So far, when the answer was negative, I was forced to point the asker at some Commons admin to e.g. delete the file in question, and with admin buttons I would be able to take proper action myself.

If accepted to be a Commons admin, I will probably not be the "recentchanges-watcher", since these tools will be mostly used for housekeeping in the categories where I will try to make some more sense than there already is. I hope that my crosswiki-history is proof that I can handle admin privileges, but the final verdict will be yours, dear Community members. Wpedzich (talk) 19:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Votes

•  Support OTRS + experienced admin on a major Wikimedia project (since 2007) is good enough for me. Also admin on meta (RFA) and previously a steward. Also, I believe we currently have only two Polish-speaking admins with OTRS access, User:Odder and User:Szczepan1990 - and User:Szczepan1990 is hardly active (1 edit since October, as of now). Rd232 (talk) 02:50, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Previously a steward? He's a steward again since last year. Trijnstel (talk) 11:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Looks like a very experienced user to me. Don't see any reason to oppose. The more admin = the better anyway.Trongphu (talk) 03:04, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Why not? -FASTILY ^(TALK) 03:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support No problem. --►Safir yüzüklü Cekli^mesaj 07:56, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  SupportVago (talk) 08:48, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support By his experience on a major wikimedia project I can suppose he is a reliable user. The only thing I suggest him is to get more involved into the discussions like RfD, in which I see he contributed very little. -- Blackcat (talk) 09:00, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Trijnstel (talk) 11:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Neutral - Don't want to support with only 1285 edits in commons, but don't want to oppose with your global experience. --Sreejith K (talk) 11:21, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support --Katarighe (Talk) 14:03, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Lots of crosswiki experience and experience on commons. Ajraddatz (talk) 15:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support some of my requests for deleting or renaming pages are standing unconsidered for a too long period of time, this probably because admins are quite busy or inactive. So having more of them can only be a good thing. Udufruduhu (talk) 16:20, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support A trusted admin on pl-wiki. IMO he will be a valuable addition here, too :). Maire (talk) 19:35, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support - Tiptoety ^talk 00:17, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support  ■ MMXX  ^talk 01:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Techman224^Talk 03:52, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support tools will be useful for you. --PierreSelim (talk) 09:01, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support per Rd232 mickit 09:15, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Comments

• Are the instructions really so complicated? ;-) --Leyo 19:30, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Wasn't lookin', sorry, will fix in a sec. The sin of overconfidence? Wpedzich (talk) 19:34, 15 February 2012 (UTC) Fix'd

  There are two points in the instruction… --Leyo 19:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

  Yes, I omitted the proper edit summary, which I am aware of, beats himself in the chest. Wpedzich (talk) 19:46, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Leyo, you have occupied that question already ... Hmm - what can I ask now? ;-) --Saibo (Δ) 02:03, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

    What about asking this? :-) --Leyo 08:20, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Blackcat

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Blackcat (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · recent activity · logs · block log · global contribs · SULinfo)

Scheduled to end: 15:42, 21 February 2012(2012-02-21) (UTC)

Now that things have settled down here, I am pleased to nominate Blackcat to be an Administrator. He has been a registered user since before 2006, and has 100,000 global edits, including 6,400 on Commons and about 500 in the Commons: namespace. He is a native speaker of Italian. We already have Administrators Dantadd and Trixt, but it seems to me that two is not enough to support the fifth largest Wikipedia – we have more from all of the other top dozen languages.

Of course we look beyond the numbers in choosing Admins. Blackcat’s talk page shows nothing problematic. He withdrew an RfA in April 2011 when his lack of experience in the namespace was pointed out. He has corrected that with more than 400 comments on DRs and other work in the space in the past ten months. He is polite, constructive, and shows a good grasp of the issues which we address every day. I don’t always agree with him, but when did any two of us always agree?      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:42, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I can't but thank Jim for his help, his politeness and his endless patience during these last months, and for his support. My goal is to help this community to improve and also - not the main goal but an important one anyway - to give a helpful hand to the many Italian-speaking users that may find useful talking to an admin that speaks their own language. Any comment and suggestions are welcome. -- Blackcat (talk) 16:02, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Votes

•  Support As nominator.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:42, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Yann (talk) 16:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support I recall only positive interactions. --Leyo 16:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support --Jarekt (talk) 16:26, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support MorganKevinJ^(talk) 16:40, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support per nominator --Sreejith K (talk) 16:44, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Poco a poco (talk) 17:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support --Katarighe (Talk) 01:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 01:28, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Oppose - sorry, but looking through recent DRs I see too much carelessness. For example (i) at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Foto Iñaki Ezkerra.JPG, someone else had to point out es:Iñaki Ezkerra (it had existed for over a year earlier, while the interwiki-linked eu:Iñaki Ezkerra had existed since 2007). Not Blackcat's homewiki, it's true, but very easily findable in Google. (ii) At Commons:Deletion requests/File:VICTOR JARA.jpg a vague "what does Chilean law say about PD?" isn't much help. COM:L gives some help in English (but not in Italian, at Commons:Licenze - if Blackcat's interface language is Italian). The vague handwavy-ness of this is not really helpful. (iii) Commons:Deletion requests/File:Gastric Band.JPG "a stylised human body is not eligible for copyright".... and he doesn't "see originality in that photo" (deleted for lack of permission, so only admins can judge now). (iv) comments at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Hans Rott nella sua unica fotografia conosciuta.jpg contradict Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle. (v) only a month ago he was asking, at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Rosa-Mendes-2011.jpg, whether "a non-derivative-works licence is allowed here". Sorry, but I don't think Blackcat is ready - unless perhaps he intends to stay away from copyright/licensing issues (and do what?). Rd232 (talk) 02:22, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Why not? Per Jim. --►Safir yüzüklü Cekli^mesaj 06:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support per Jim--Morning Sunshine (talk) 06:32, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Udufruduhu (talk) 13:02, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support per nominator and the more admin = the better.Trongphu (talk) 03:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Why not? -FASTILY ^(TALK) 03:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  SupportVago (talk) 08:49, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support Techman224^Talk 03:54, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support per Jim --PierreSelim (talk) 08:58, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
•  Support mickit 09:17, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Comments

• @Rd232, just some quick answers:
  1. Foto Iñaki Ezkerra.JPG: not much to say, a distraction may happen; I changed my mind as soon as I found out notability though;
  2. File:VICTOR JARA.jpg: a question driven by precaution. Many countries have the rule of PD after 20+ yrs after first publishing (ie Italy, Argentina), so I asked;
  3. File:Hans Rott nella sua unica fotografia conosciuta.jpg: the concern is not only mine. At least two people asked for evidence why a person can claim copyright over a photo taken in late 19th Century (I mean: evidence that the photo was published for the first time in 1999).
     In order to explain better this point I'll make an example. On August 2010 I took this photo of which I wasn't satisfied, so I made a retouched version of it that I uploaded here. But since the latter had not EXIF data that could possibly prove that the photo was mine I also uploaded the un-retouched photo so I can claim safely my intellectual property on it. Maybe it was an excess of precaution, but I expect that who claims rights over a photographic work also gives evidence of it. Hope it helps.
  4. File:Gastric Band.JPG: this is the most subjective amongst the remarks I read: I still believe there's nothing original on that photo. Jim, for example, believed the opposite and deleted the photo. It's fine for me and I respect that. I don’t always agree with him, said Jim. That was one of the cases. It happens that anyone contributes in good faith with their own opinions.
  5. File:Rosa-Mendes-2011.jpg: a non-derivative-works licence is allowed here? was a rhetorical question. Of course I well know the answer, Rd232. But when I asked the question the state of the photo was debated as it was licenced under "PD-USGov-Military-Army" on Commons and its licence on Flickr had just been changed from "All rights reserved" into "cc-by-nd-2.0", a licence clearly not allowed here. Thanks for your remarks. -- Blackcat (talk) 10:08, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

• • Thanks for your measured reply. Individually, each of the errors is forgivable (and perhaps not everyone will agree they're errors) - but taken together, in the short space of time and so recently, it's too much for a would-be admin. Also, considering that my concern was "carelessness", the error in your numbering response is unfortunate (your 3. is my iv, and vice versa). (i) the issue isn't changing your mind, it's not doing the minimal research I'd expect of a first respondent in a DR (especially an admin). (ii) the question was fine; it was the lack of any attempt to answer it or to clarify it so that others might know what you were thinking of and follow it up. (and BTW both Argentina and Italy PD rules are more complex than "20+ years after first publishing") (iii) Gastric Band. Yes, there's plenty of room for opinion; I just don't see any precedent for an opinion anything like that. That's worrying. (iv) Hans Rott: the comment I was concerned about was "if its author is undetermined, whose rights are we supposed to protect? That's why I think the photo should be kept." This directly contradicts Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle (point 4). But in addition, your response is severely lacking: how a person can claim copyright in this way is explained in the DR, and supported by pointing at de:editio princeps (Urheberrecht) (which is in German, but I'd expect you to go there and look for an interwiki link to a language you read, and there is en:Publication right; and if there weren't, there's Google Translate). (v) a rhetorical question? fine, but not a helpful thing to do. Sorry, but I see no reason at all to overturn my Oppose. Rd232 (talk) 16:05, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
    • Thanks again for your remarks. But (i) normally I make some research (see here). As I told, distraction may happen, there's not much to say; (ii) now I know this exists, and hardly I would ask again a thing like this :-) plus both you and I know that PD rules in my country (or Argentina) are more complex than "20+ yrs etc.", so it's not useful for the sake of discussion pointing out that, it was a short reply, not very articulate in detail ;-) (iii) yes I understand what you said, still I don't know what the point is. If the consensus in a RfD leads towards deletion, doesn't matter if I am for keeping the file : as admin I am expected to act according consensus and also according the good reasons expressed for deleting. (iv) As I told you, I provided evidence for which I can safely claim a work as mine. I read Precautionary principle. Are you telling me that it must be read in the sense that "If anyone claims to have rights over something (no matter if unproven) we must assume they actually have such rights"? Ok, if so it's fine for me but in this case I am withdrawing my opinion in that RfD and ask for speedy deletion since an RfD would be useless in such cases: the mentioned RfD would be an undisputed case of copyright violation, don't you agree? I noticed that you - again - make reference to the editio princeps : yes but that's not the point. To make it even clearer: I am not questioning the editio princeps. That was not my question. The question is: is there any evidence that the mentioned person was actually the first one to publish in 1999 an unpublished 19th century photo? If we assume that the claim is true even if we don't have any evidence, then the matter is undisputed: let's delete the file and stop discussing. If we are to discuss whether the supposed copyright owner was actually the first one to publish, then the discussion is appropriate. But in this case you can't complain if the opinion given is not what you expect ;-) (v) Same. For me the file at the moment I asked that question was clearly to delete. Evidence that it had to be kept came later. You forgot (by distraction for sure, as I said it happens to everyone sooner or later to have a moment of distraction) to write that my previous statement was (the bold is mine) (delete) unless either they change licence into a free one or state unambiguously that's an official US-Gov or US-Mil photo. I had every reason to ask for deletion as the file was lacking a proper licence. Or better: the licence on Commons did not match the one on Flickr, and even once corrected the new licence was not suitable for Commons. Only 8 hours later the original pic on Flickr was tagged with a suitable licence, so i still don't know what the point is. Anyway I appreciate your attention, -- Blackcat (talk) 16:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
      • Alright, I accept (i) can be an occasional error of distraction, it happens, of course. (ii) your reply misses my original point. (iii) That's a reasonable reply, but having odd opinions on something can lead to odd interpretations of consensus in that area; and besides where copyright is concerned, consensus matters less than correct interpretation of policy, law and facts. (iv) Yes, if the claim appears reasonable, it must be accepted at face value. You can try to disprove it, but if that's not possible, precautionary principle says accept it. As for not questioning editio princeps - fine, that's not how I read your comment above. (v) no I didn't miss that, you said "a free one", well CC-BY-ND might be considered by some users to be a free license (though it actually doesn't meet the definition, it's close enough that people get confused). Maybe your question was rhetorical, but another user replied to it thinking it wasn't. Even if it was rhetorical, it was confusing. ... Anyway, I'm not sure more discussion will get us much further, and nobody else seems to share my concerns, so I guess I'll just wish you luck and hope that this discussion has brought some things to your attention that you will think about. Rd232 (talk) 09:52, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
        • Of course, I guess we needed to talk in order to clarify some points. Again, thank you. -- Blackcat (talk) 10:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)