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Esta página explica el rol de administradores (también denominados sysops) en Wikimedia Commons. Los alcances de este rol y la forma en que se nombran administradores difiere de otros proyectos de la Fundación Wikimedia.

Si necesita ayuda de administradores por favor acuda a Commons:Administrators' noticeboard.

En este momento hay 271 administradores en Commons.

1 ¿Qué es un administrador?
- 1.1 Aspecto técnico
- 1.2 Rol en la comunidad
2 ¿Cómo me convierto en administrador?
- 2.1 Discusión pública y votación
- 2.2 Pedidos para ser administrador
3 Sugerencias para administradores
4 Remoción de derechos de administrador
5 Para ser candidato a administrador
6 Requests for adminship
- 6.1 Melos
  - 6.1.1 Votes
  - 6.1.2 Comments

[edit] ¿Qué es un administrador?

Administrators as of November 2009 [+/−]

Listing by language
Listing by date

Number of Admins: 271

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EuseBotHelper (bot)
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Herr Kriss, pl, en-2
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ignis, ja, en-2, fr-1, de-1
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[edit] Aspecto técnico

Los administradores son usuarios que tienen la posibilidad de:

borrar y restaurar imágenes y otros archivos, y poder ver y restaurar versiones borradas
borrar y restaurar páginas, y ver y restaurar versiones borradas de las mismas
proteger y desproteger páginas y editar páginas protegidas por administradores
bloquear y desbloquear usuarios, individuos que acceden a través de una dirección de IP o todo un rango de direcciones de IP
editar el espacio de nombres Mediawiki

Éstas son las herramientas administrativas.

[edit] Rol en la comunidad

Los administradores son miembros con experiencia que realizan trabajos de mantenimiento. La comunidad de Commons les deposita su confianza y les da las herramientas administrativas a través del consenso público y el voto. Los administradores tienen su propia área de interés y experiencia, pero las tareas típicas consisten en la determinación y el cierre de los pedidos de borrado, borrar violaciones de derechos de autor, restaurar archivos cuando es necesario, proteger Commons del vandalismo, y trabajar en plantillas y otras páginas protegidas. Por supuesto, algunas de estas tareas pueden ser hechas también por otros usuarios que no son administradores.

Los administradores deben estar preparados para entender las metas de este proyecto, y para trabajar constructivamente con otros para lograr estos fines. Los administradores también deben entender y aplicar las políticas de Commons, y donde sea necesario respetar el consenso comunitario.

Aparte de los roles que requieren el uso de las herramientas administrativas, los administradores no tienen autoridad editorial por el mero hecho de poseer ese rol, y sus contribuciones en discusiones y votaciones se tratan de la misma manera que las de cualquier otro editor. Por supuesto, algunos administradores son influyentes, pero eso tiene que ver no con su posición sino con la confianza personal que ganaron en la comunidad.

[edit] ¿Cómo me convierto en administrador?

Antes que nada, asegúrese si ser administrador es la mejor forma de contribuir al proyecto. La experiencia muestra que los usuarios que contribuyen excelente material muchas veces reducen estas contribuciones debido a la sobrecarga de trabajo luego de convertirse en administradores, y eso es lo que menos necesita el proyecto. Por favor colabore en lo que mejor sepa hacer y entienda que hay muchas formas de obtener el crédito de la comunidad aparte de ser administrador.

Ser administrador en Commons no es un premio por haber realizado contribuciones excelentes, sino que es sólo un conjunto de herramientas que le sirven a los usuarios que desean limpiar Commons.

Considere si realmente va a necesitar las herramientas administrativas para el trabajo que piensa realizar. La comunidad no le dará estas herramientas a aquéllos que no las necesitan o que probablemente no hagan uso de ellas. Así que, si sólo necesitará estas herramientas por un plazo limitado, o si desea borrar sus propias contribuciones, simplemente pídale a otro administrador que lo ayude.

Se espera que los administradores se encuentren razonablemente activos en este proyecto, y si cesa de usar las herramientas por un período prolongado, las perderá automáticamente de acuerdo a nuestra política de revocación de los privilegios de administrador. Como administrador se espera que esté disponible en Commons (una página de usuario que le pide a la gente que le deje mensajes en otro proyecto no se considera una práctica aceptable para un administrador).

Se puede leer más información sobre los roles en la comunidad de los administradores en la guía para administradores.

No hay reglas fijadas en piedra sobre el tiempo mínimo que un usuario debe haber estado activo en Commons para poder ser administrador, ni tampoco una cantidad mínima de ediciones. Sin embargo, se requiere que el requerimiento que sea un miembro experimentado y confiable de la comunidad de Commons significa que antes de comenzar la candidatura deberá tener suficiente experiencia como para demostrarlo. Si es un administrador o usuario experimentado en otro proyecto, menciónelo, pero tenga en cuenta que con la experiencia fuera de Commons solamente no alcanza.

Aunque no sea mandatorio, generalmente es una buena idea hablar con otros administradores para verificar si tiene suficiente experiencia. De esta manera es posible que otro administrador lo nomine, aunque también se aceptan autonominaciones.

Cuando se presente como candidato a administrador, la comunidad considerará su capacidad para cumplir el rol de administrador. Los miembros de la comunidad tienen diferentes expectativas de los candidatos, por lo que es conveniente revisar algunas candidaturas archivadas para saber qué es lo que busca la gente. En la práctica, los usuarios quieren ver un nivel razonable de participación en actividades de tipo administrativas como pedidos de borrado, etiquetar correctamente violaciones de derecho de autor, patrulla de nuevos usuarios, etc. Los usuarios también querrán ver que ud. es un miembro integral de Commons y observarán cómo interactúa con otros en páginas de discusión y otros lugares.

[edit] Discusión pública y votación

Las candidaturas a administrador duran generalmente siete días en los que se vota y se exponen comentarios. Este período comienza cuando escribe su nominación (si es una autonominación) o su aceptación (si algún otro usuario lo nominó). Al final de ese período un burócrata cerrará la candidatura y dará o declinará la promoción. La candidatura puede durar más de siete días, si el burócrata lo considera conveniente.

La promoción requiere al menos un 75% de votos de usuarios a favor, con un mínimo de 4 votos positivos. No se cuentan los votos de usuarios no registrados. Sin embargo, el burócrata que cierra la candidatura tiene discreción para juzgar el consenso comunitario y la decisión no se basa totalmente en los números indicados arriba. Entre otras cosas, este burócrata tendrá en cuenta el peso de los argumentos presentados y la experiencia y conocimento de los usuarios que comentan. Por ejemplo, los comentarios y votos de los usuarios que tienen cero o pocas contribuciones pueden ser descontados a criterio del burócrata.

Si la nominación es exitosa, el burócrata le dará los derechos de adminstrador.

[edit] Pedidos para ser administrador

Cuando esté listo, asegúrese de tener una página de usuario, habilite el correo electrónico en sus preferencias, y luego lance su candidatura o pídale a su nominador que lo haga en la página Commons:Administradores.

[edit] Sugerencias para administradores

Por favor lea la guía para administradores.

[edit] Remoción de derechos de administrador

De acuerdo a la política de revocación de los privilegios de administrador, estos derechos pueden revocarse por inactividad o uso inadecuado de las herramientas administrativas.

[edit] Para ser candidato a administrador

Antes que nada, debe leer la información que se encuentra en Commons:Administradores/Sugerencias. Luego vuelva aquí y lance su candidatura de la siguiente manera:

Después de apretar el botón y crear la subpágina, copie el enlace a dicha subpágina, por ejemplo "Commons:Administrators/Requests/Nombreusuario", edite Commons:Administrators/Requests y péguelo al principio de la sección, luego coloque este texto entre llaves dobles (por ejemplo {{Commons:Administrators/Requests/Nombreusuario}} ) para transcluirlo.

Si algún otro usuario lo nominó, por favor acéptelo indicando "I accept", "Acepto" o algo similar, y firmando debajo de la nominación. De todas maneras deberá ud. o el proponente transcluir la subpágina.

Use la caja que se muestra abajo, reemplazando Nombreusuario por su nombre de usuario:

Las votaciones concluidas están en Commons:Administrators/Archive.

Purga la caché

[edit] Requests for adminship

When complete, pages listed here should be archived to Commons:Administrators/Archive.

Please read Commons:Administrators before voting here. Any logged in user may vote, although those who have few or no previous edits may not be fully counted.

[edit] Melos

Voice your opinion

Very trusted user, here as well as on it.wiki, where is a valid Check User. He has a "temporary flag" because he conducted an important work about italian CoA (you can see also last request for adminship); now this work is successfully done, but I request for him a stable flag, because he can surely be a very good referring point here and a valid, neutral and experienced admin. --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 19:06, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I accept, thank you --melos (talk) 19:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Links for candidate: Melos (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · logs · block log)

[edit] Votes

[edit] Support

Support --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 19:44, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
WTF? I forgot that he was a temp admin. Support without a doubt, I know Melos now for a year, maybe a little bit more and he is always nice and willing to help. There is nothing where I could think of that could make me oppose on this request, this kind of people do we need much more on Commons. Huib talk 19:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Support--Henrykus (talk) 19:54, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Support--Marco 27 (msg) _{on it.wiki: user page — talk page} 19:57, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Support --gian_d (talk) 20:03, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Support -- Marco Bernardini (talk) 20:21, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Support --Vituzzu (talk) 21:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
No reason to believe they're not trustworthy. Support –Juliancolton | ^Talk 22:06, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Support -- Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 22:06, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Support --W im β 23:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Support I trust him. --Jaqen (talk) 23:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Support --Tia solzago (talk) 11:29, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Support --Skyluke ★ | ^@it.wk 11:34, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Support No doubt --Fabexplosive (talk) 12:25, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Support. Highly trusted. PeterSymonds (talk) 16:40, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Support reliable. --Superchilum^{(talk to me!)} 18:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Support he is confident with both the technical matters and the copyright law. He's reliable and trust-worthy. --Atroungarika write here! 19:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Support very good cu and admin at it.wiki --FiloSottile (talk) 23:57, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Support per Melos's answer, and strong trust from the community that knows him best. Durova (talk) 01:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Support His skills make him an excellent candidate. --Vipera (talk) 08:24, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Support —Dferg ^(disputatio) 14:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Support I'm sure as in it.wiki he can be a good sysop also in commons --Ignlig (talk) 22:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Support, Nixón^〃 03:41, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Oppose

Oppose Melos did 141 edit in almost 2 years [1] There is no confidence that user understand copyright laws in different countries, no participation in DRs, speedy deletion, and copyvio-cleanup or others community based activities. And there is almost zero history of communication with other users on Commons --Justass (talk) 20:11, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Oppose I have to agree. It's not clear if this user knows the Commons policies, processes and conventions. Furthermore, I find it very questionable that the user misused his tools for stuff that wasn't supported by consensus. Honesty is important: If you say you only use it to restore those images but do other things as well, how can I trust you then? --The Evil IP address (talk) 21:17, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Oppose Less than 150 edits since 30 January 2008 is not sufficient for an admin. --High Contrast (talk) 22:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Oppose get more active, come back here. Multichill (talk) 22:13, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Oppose - KTo288 (talk) 23:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Oppose Nothing like active enough on Commons for me I'm afraid. --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:29, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Oppose. As others have said, not enough activity on Commons. It seems partly due to most of his deletion requests being made through IRC. Not a very good habit for a new administrator; most of wiki maintenance should happen on wiki. –Tryphon ^☂ 13:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Neutral

Neutral --Leyo 08:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Oppose active on it.wp, but complete lack of activity on commons -- User:Docu at 06:12, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

Comment He doesn't seem to be limiting the use of his temporary access (Commons:Administrators/Requests/Melos) to the tasks it was granted for. -- User:Docu at 19:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

That could be my fault, I asked Melos a few times if he could help out when there where requests on IRC and I didn't have a secure connection, Its my mistake that I forgot to check if he could use the buttons. But with his use of the tools he shows us that he know the policies because everything he did was according to our policy. Huib talk 19:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

He should know about this himself. -- User:Docu at 06:41, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Curious about the concerns articulated by Justass. Durova (talk) 20:30, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Comment I'd like to ask Justass about the number of admin who knows italian copyright law, some month ago (if needed I'll take a link to the village pump's archives) I noticed that only a few number of sysop, almost nobody was able to deal with italian "decreto Urbani" (a really important matter for all photos taken into italian museums). --Vituzzu (talk) 21:37, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Comment And I'd just like to ask to all about the number of edit; do you really think that high number of edit means knowledge of policies, experiences about copyright, technical knowledges? And more, do you really think that experiences is only through number of edits made on Commons? I know here edicountitis reaches the top, so I see here admins having no full knowledges about copyright, I saw it many time. Moreover, Melos did a work that don't figure in any log here: searching thousand of deleted files, saving on his desktop and reuploading on it.wiki. The work is the same than restoring files here; the greatest part of the work was done here, and we should (we must?) consider all this deleted files viewed by him as edit done here. --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 08:32, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
- Roberto, this is a difficult decision from the perspective of someone who doesn't already know him. Several Italian editors have a lot of trust and respect for this person. Probably that's well earned. Yet he's averaging about 6 edits a month to this site over two years. Definitely there's value in diversity and in having Italian administrators. If Melos had come and done a couple hundred edits over six weeks, and not run into any problems, then he would definitely have my support. Right now I don't know what to think. It would be really helpful if he came to this discussion himself and addressed the concerns. Durova (talk) 22:13, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
  - I really believe in this RfA. I've accepted this because I can give a hand to the project. Until now I have always limited to report speedy deletion or other to different admin via IRC (Filnik and others can confirm) and this is the real reason why i have only 157 edits. I'm an admin on itwiki since 2008 and OTRS volunteer since the same year and for this reason I know the different copyright laws. --melos (talk) 23:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
    - Fair enough. Durova (talk) 01:58, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Question: how would you intend to use the admin tools? -- User:Docu at 06:41, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- I intend to use the admin tools especially for maintenace works. There are always files to review in the speedy deletion category, but, because I'm enough available via IRC, I receive also several request of speedy deletion, file renaming etc. Furthermore, italian copyright law is little different from other countries. Every day I revert several "nowcommons" that was uploaded on commons via file upload bot. These files need to be deleted here because they are not free. --melos (talk) 08:15, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
  - Maybe this is an indicator that something at Italian Wikipedia could be done about it. After your comment, I checked your deleted edit count (3). It doesn't indicate that you did any tagging for deletion either. Frequently interesting opinion on copyright are provided by a user that doesn't even have a user page, so I don't see what prevented you from doing so before. I think you should attempt to gain more experience on commons before applying for adminship. -- User:Docu at 06:10, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- By your argument, since an edit on Commons has an impact on every wiki, a Commons edit must be seen as an edit at it.wiki. If so would you support a Rfa at it.wiki of a trusted and active Admin here but who has made only a minimal number of edits and has only a minimal interaction there? Actually I am less concerned with Melos's technical abilities so much as his soft skills, how good a diplomat is he? How will he react when a newbie in good faith uploads a copyvio, how would he mediate between two established users whose categorisation schemes clash. What happens when he's asked to delete an image that offends him personally but is within Common's scope. Sure edits are not an indicator of ability or personality but it is only from edits that we can gauge ability and character.KTo288 (talk) 08:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Melos toke here a temporary flag for doing a specific works; as written before, he asked continuously on IRC to delete files here. Concerning wikilove, I trust him because of his diplomatic skills on it.wiki, and I have no way to think that he will keep a different "diplomacy" here. --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 10:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)