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Categories by place or year of construction[edit]

I doubt that these category names are meaningful in English. I propose to rename them.

--ŠJů (talk) 14:53, 4 June 2010 (UTC), corrected by discussion. --ŠJů (talk) 07:08, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

See also Category:Buildings by year of completion, Category:Buildings by date of destruction, Category:Railway stations by year of establishment, Category:Railway stations by year of closure, Category:Hormones by place of production, Category:Medieval manuscripts by place of creation, Category:Illuminated manuscripts by place of creation, Category:Immigrants by country of origin as anologous examples. --ŠJů (talk) 14:53, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Please consider what word is most suitable for vehicles: construction? fabrication? manufacture? production? making? erection? fitting up? mounting? expedition? --ŠJů (talk) 15:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

"Construction" it is like "design", "engineering". Bus designed in one year is "built", "manufactured" etc. many years. It is bad word. Category like"Buses in Poland built by year" is good, becouse it is category 1) "by place" and next 2) "by year built" (not in this place). It is subcategory "Buses by place" (country) and "Buses built by year" (built = "produced"). For example buses built in 2009 year is thousands. It is too many. This category needs subcategory - "by country" (place). Maybe we need too category "Buses by country built by year" for categorys like: "Buses in Poland built by year", "Buses in Hungary built by year". Category "Buses built in Bulgaria by year of construction" is bad. Words "built" and "construction" is the same! Category "Buses built in Bulgaria by year" etc. is good. But it is category 1) "by year built" (produced) in Bulgaria, not "by place" where buses are. This is new and different category! Marek Banach (talk) 19:07, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm also not very good in English, but English grammar isn't quite strange or incomprehensible to us. Some bus can be built "in year", but not "built by year". Buses are sorted and categorized "by year", not "built by year". Just like you can write "Autobusy wyprodukowane w 2000 roku" but not "Autobusy wyprodukowane według roku" - rather "Autobusy według roku produkcji". As regards syntax, English is very similar to Czech or Polish.
"By year of building" or "by country of building" (which is the right grammatical form) is also a possible variant, but the word "building" is homonymous (the basic meaning here is budynek, budowla) and it wouldn't good to use it unnecessarily in more meanings. --ŠJů (talk) 20:04, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
I agree with all the proposals. It should make it clearer and more easy to understand. I think, in terms of buses "by year of manufacture" is the most appropriate word, rather than "production". Although "production" is OK too. Arriva436talk/contribs 20:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Closed since it looks like the changes have already been made. ghouston (talk) 05:43, 5 November 2013 (UTC)