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Category:Northwest Coast masks[edit]

Category:Northwest Coast masks is currently a subcategory of Category:Native American masks -- which is a subcategory of Category:Masks of the United States. This seems to me to be an unfortunate instance of US-centricism. First Nations of what we now call the Pacific Northwest lived in Alaska, Washington, Oregon -- and British Columbia. I suggest Category:Northwest Coast masks and Category:Native American masks should be renamed.

But more importantly Category:Native American masks should not be a subcategory of Category:Masks of the United States. I suggest Category:Native American masks be renamed something like Category:Masks of First Nations people of North America or Category:Masks of First Nations people of the Americas, and it should not be in Category:Masks of the United States but should be a member of Category:Masks by country.

Category:Northwest Coast masks is also a less than ideal category name. That name could also describe masks with maps of the Pacific Northwest on them. How about something like Category:Masks of First Nations peoples of the Pacific Northwest. I know that the term "First Nations" might seem odd to my American friends. It is widely used in Canada. I suggest it may be more accurate and more respectful description than "Native Americans". Geo Swan (talk) 03:34, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

As you explain, the Pacific Northwest includes coastal regions in both present- day Canada and the present- day United States. Why then should "Masks of First Nations peoples etc" be an appropriate title? Sounds like an unfortunate instance of Canada-centrism to me! (Joking)
Category:Masks of Indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast would be more appropriate, although it's an awful mouthful.
Anyhow, although I personally have never been able to see what is wrong with the term "Native American" (it's something that gets hashed over again and again), I agree it's clear that it shouldn't be a subcat of "Masks of the United States". "Native American Masks" can also be renamed Category:Masks by indigenous peoples of the Americas, reflecting the Wikipedia article on visual arts. Petropoxy (Lithoderm Proxy) (talk) 01:57, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment. When thinking of the overarching pan-American category, it might be good to consider that the masks could be a subcat of Woodcarving, which would be a subcat of Sculpture. -Uyvsdi (talk) 17:35, 13 October 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi
Nice to hear from you, Uyvsdi, I was hoping you'd weigh in. I also would also prefer that the category be kept "Northwest Coast Masks", mainly because I prefer short and simple titles except when absolutely necessary- this doesn't seem to be one of those cases. My first concern is "what would someone typing the title into a search bar expect to see?" However, I would be okay with Category:Pacific Northwest Coast Masks, or something like that, if others feel that "Northwest Coast" isn't specific enough.
It seems we both agree that the Native American masks category should be renamed, so we can go ahead and do that. As a pan-national category, Category:Masks by indigenous peoples of the Americas can contain Category:Maya funerary masks and other files and categories that might not be appropriate for "Native American masks".
@Geoswan, re your last question: Hmmm, it seems off, but there isn't currently a more appropriate category like Category:Masks by culture. We could create "Masks by culture", but on looking through the general "Masks" category I really don't see any other categories that would fit under that heading. I really don't know. Cheers, Petropoxy (Lithoderm Proxy) (talk) 05:09, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I went ahead and created Category:Masks by indigenous peoples of the Americas, which I made simply into a subcat of Category:Masks and Category:Indigenous art of the Americas. -Uyvsdi (talk) 19:29, 1 November 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi