Commons:Categories for discussion/2012/07/Category:Quadricycles

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Category:Quadricycles[edit]

The article in Wikipedia is en:Quadracycle, so it seems better to move this category to Category:Quadracycles. After moved, this category might be used for other terms of "Quadricycles". (talk) 13:52, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Quadricycles is equally English and dominant in the other languages, Quadracycle is not used in any other language. --Foroa (talk) 14:07, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
According to Commons:Language policy, category names should be in English. Do you think en:Quadracycle is inappropriate in English? -- (talk)

I am not English. I found the word Quadricycle for motorized four-wheeled cars with passenger seat in the front.

  • Nr. 28
  • Nr. 49 and Nr. 50
  • Book about De Dion-Bouton (in English)
  • Book about Peugeot (in German)
  • Guide de l’automobile française, article about Chenard & Walcker (in French)

I created the German article de:Quadricycle for this type of motor vehicle. I don’t want any confusion between four-wheeled vehicles with motor and four-wheeled vehicles without motor. I think that we must rename the category:Quadricycle in category:motorized quadricycle with front passenger seat. --Buch-t (talk) 15:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

After the deletion of category:Quadricycle we need a special category:motorized quadricycle with front passenger seat to stop the confusion between:
  • without engine
  • with engine, front passenger seat, around 1900
  • small cars, around 2000 --Buch-t (talk) 17:33, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I also want to take confusions away. For four-wheeled forecar, how about Category:Quadricycles (forecar)? However another category for small cars may not be needed yet. There is already Category:Microcars. -- (talk) 13:40, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Category:Quadricycles (forecar) is OK. --Buch-t (talk) 15:36, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for agreeing. Since nobody opposed, I have made a new category. Please check Category:Quadricycles (forecar). -- (talk) 15:44, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Good, but missing link to Motorized quadracycles and with that level of documentation, they will be all mixed up again in two months time. --Foroa (talk) 15:52, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for supporting but I made Category:Motorized quadracycles only for hybrid quadricycles/quadracycles. This is the reason why I didn't link Category:Quadricycles (forecar) to that. Now another category, such like Category:Quadricycles (motor vehicle), may be needed for old four wheeled motor vehicles which you linked. Or if four-wheeled pedal cycles are really called as w:quadracycles in English, how about using Category:Quadracycles for pedal cycles, then using Category:Quadricycles for motor vehicles? -- (talk) 16:36, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

As stated in the beginning, quadricycles is a much more international term, no need to change it to quadracycles; you will not solve your naming problem by using a slight variation on Quadricycles. And if you don't make a link between the various quadricycles, someone else will do. I think that differentiating Category:Quadricycles (motor vehicle) with Category:Motorized quadracycles just by playing with spelling and punctuation will not work. --Foroa (talk) 16:46, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Do you mean that the category for hybrid quadricycles shouldn't be made on Commons? -- (talk) 17:20, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Just saying, that from the titles and category structure, one should be able to guess the category content. Creating somewhere a "hybrid quadricycles" while somewhere else unconnected "Motorized quadracycles" and "Quadricycles (motor vehicle)" categories exist makes no sense and is a recipe for mix-up. I thought that the idea was to clarify and untangle the quadricyle mix-up. You seem basically trying to invent new names that are marginally different from other ones. --Foroa (talk) 05:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
You seem to be misunderstanding me, and I might also be misunderstanding you. OK, shall we stop wasting time? Now I have made Category:Quadricycles (motor vehicle) but I don't care if you delete it, then let me see how you solve the confusions. -- (talk) 13:46, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I'll make a more detailed structural proposition that includes all involved cats in the coming week. --Foroa (talk) 15:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

My idea: Every category with the word Quadricycle need human-powered or motorized.

It is necessary to split in countries like in Belgium?
Pedal cars are possible with 3 and 4 wheels, so not in this category. --Buch-t (talk) 16:00, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
No answers? --Buch-t (talk) 16:13, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Pedal cars are predominantly 4 wheel cars and a variation of Quadricycles.
I would propose the following structure:
:Category:Quadricycles the evolution from bicycles to quadricycles, in the beginning without motors
Category:Quadricycles (motor vehicle) for all things that start to look like an auto, subcats look fine to me
Category:Quadricycles (motor assisted) now in Category:Motorized quadracycles, for all quadricycles that still have some sort of pedals
Category:Pedal cars containing several subcats:
Category:Pedal cars for tourism (including renaming of the Category:Quadricycles in Belgium)
Category:Pedal cars for special events for the large (beer) pedal cars)
So the root Category:Quadricycles should contain only antique non motorised quadricycles. --Foroa (talk) 17:49, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Automoto. Chain yes. But I cannot see pedals.
Category:Quadricycles only antique non motorised quadricycles: OK.
It is difficult to split between Category:Quadricycles (motor vehicle) and Category:Quadricycles (motor assisted). Look at the Automoto picture. Pedals? Perhaps Category:Quadricycles (motor vehicle) for both.
Subcats: (Forecar) for front-seat like the Automoto and (standard seating) for 2 seats side-by-side, like the pictures in Category:Ford Quadricycle. More than 2 seats is not usual for this very early small motor vehicles.
Category:Pedal cars and subcats: OK --Buch-t (talk) 17:44, 25 September 2012 (UTC)