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Category:Steel mills in the United States[edit]

Another contributor first added this category to Category:Steel industry in the United States -- and then replaced it with a redirect to Category:Steel industry in the United States. The problem I have with this replacement of an existing specific cateogry with a more general one is that "Steel Industry" included more than stell mills. Shipping steel rods, steel plates, steel rails is also part of the "steel industry", so is the shipping of scap metal, and the crushing of old cars. So, arguably, would be the manufacture and shipping of Coke, and the mining and shipping of iron ore and limestone to charge the blast furnaces of those steel mills. I reverted the redirection, and invited the other contributor here, to make a case for their redirection. Geo Swan (talk) 22:34, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi I left a message that replies to this at User_talk:Geo_Swan#Steel_mill
To summarise - I maintain (and I think this can be easily verified) that all I have done is merge categories that contained indentical content - presently "steel industry" contains little or no content of the type described above - it is mostly "steel mills" (in the en:Steel mill sense)
OR to put it another way - I could have moved 99% of the images in "steel industry" into matching "steel mill" categories.
There is a minor issue with the worldwide meaning of "steel mill" - eg in some places it doesn't mean primary production such as blast furnaces as shown in File:Steel_Mills_at_mouth_of_Calumet_river_Chicago.jpg - I thought "steel industry" was a good name choice - but possibly "steel production sites" (or something better) may be better names for the category:Steel industry and the similarly named subcats. Now would be a good time to do such block moves.
I am quite happy to go through the contents again (after a move) and sort out all the erratics etc, and stuff like that. In general though many of the images need more categorisation - I suggest down to factory name level - eg like Category:Bethlehem Plant or Category:Allegheny Ludlum.
Note I also emptied Category:Steel industries in Category:Steel industry and subcats - I assume this was just a duplicate category. Mddkpp (talk) 23:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
To summarise - if people can come to a good decision on what categories they want I am happy to go through the pages I have altered, plus any other images that come to hand and categorise by the system decided.
If any work messages arise a note on my enlgish wikipedia page will be appreciated as I am there most of the time.Mddkpp (talk) 00:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

No consensus to do anything. No action required. howcheng {chat} 19:34, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Passport_stamps_from_Venezuela[edit]

The category is empty -- the only entry was moved to category "Passport stamps of Venezuela" Auntof6 (talk) 00:04, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


Closed, bad name. --rimshottalk 20:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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Category:20010_COMPUTEX_Taipei[edit]

duplicated with Category:COMPUTEX Taipei 2010 Rico Shen contact... 17:21, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, bad name. --rimshottalk 00:00, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Pig_slaughter_(3rd_December_2011)[edit]

There is no need for this specific pig slaughter. Commons categories have a certain scope, too - Commons is no private photo album with private image galleries High Contrast (talk) 18:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

I just wanted to distinguish the images from the one specific pig slaughter from another one, because every pig slaughter is very specific - that´s all, my intention was not create useless category or (as you said) "private photo album". If you think that category is not useful, please delete it, I don´t have problem with that. Regards, --Podzemnik (talk) 19:37, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
I don't wanted to offend you but private galleries like such are not ok on Commons. We can order it geographically. --High Contrast (talk) 16:10, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
You didn't offend me, it's OK :) I just transfered all images to Category:Pig slaughters in the Czech Republic, think it's OK now, isn't it? --Podzemnik (talk) 17:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your support! Regards, High Contrast (talk) 17:17, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted: category has been emptied. Content moved accordingly. --High Contrast (talk) 17:17, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, empty now. --rimshottalk 00:00, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Suzzara train station[edit]

Empty category, should be deleted. Friedrichstrasse (talk) 14:26, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 19:49, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Cedegolo train station[edit]

Empty category, should be deleted. Friedrichstrasse (talk) 14:28, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 19:49, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Mezzolara train station[edit]

Empty category, should be deleted. Friedrichstrasse (talk) 14:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 19:50, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:FS ALn 880[edit]

Empty category, should be deleted Friedrichstrasse (talk) 14:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 19:51, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:CCFR ALn 9000[edit]

Empty category, should be deleted Friedrichstrasse (talk) 14:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 19:51, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Sibnica[edit]

Unused. created in error... (sorry :) :) WhiteWriter speaks 20:38, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, unused. --rimshottalk 20:24, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Street signs in Germany[edit]

Kategorie bitte löschen! Falscher Name; alle Dateien in Kategorie "Street signs in Rhineland-Palatinate" verschoben! ANKAWÜ (talk) 04:05, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Cancelled request. --Foroa (talk) 06:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Gut so, der LA war mein Fehler ... Gruß vom Bodensee low.svg  -- ANKAWÜ (talk) 08:05, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Kept, request created in error. --rimshottalk 00:06, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Street name signs in Rhineland-Palatinate[edit]

Kategorie bitte löschen! Falscher Name! Alle Dateien wurden in die Kategorie "Street signs in Rhineland-Palatinate" verschoben! ANKAWÜ (talk) 04:07, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

✓ Done --Foroa (talk) 06:07, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, bad name. --rimshottalk 20:29, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, das wußte ich nicht, dass es schon eine Kategorie dafür gibt. Hätte man mir ruhig persönlich mitteilen können. --Saviour1981 (talk) 03:26, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
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Category:Akroydon[edit]

empty category Auntof6 (talk) 22:35, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Withdraw -- category no longer empty. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:38, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Kept, not empty anymore. --rimshottalk 21:32, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Arthursdale[edit]

empty category Auntof6 (talk) 22:40, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


Kept, not empty anymore. --rimshottalk 23:21, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Bogthorn[edit]

empty category Auntof6 (talk) 23:09, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Withdraw CFD, category is no longer empty --Auntof6 (talk) 07:46, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Kept, not empty anymore. --rimshottalk 21:32, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Harewood, Leeds[edit]

empty category, duplicates category "Harewood, Yorkshire" Auntof6 (talk) 01:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, as per nom. --rimshottalk 23:22, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Benoy Viswam[edit]

Empty Category Kiran Gopi (talk) 03:35, 17 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, as per nom. --rimshottalk 23:22, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Sowood[edit]

Empty category, and it duplicates category "Sowood, West Yorkshire". Auntof6 (talk) 06:18, 18 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, as per nom. --rimshottalk 23:22, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway images[edit]

Category is redundant to Category:Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway. Mackensen (talk) 17:13, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Wasn't this really just swiped from Wikipedia without correcting the category? Because I see that with a lot of commons transfers. ----DanTD (talk) 05:46, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
you have done the right thing --El. (talk) 17:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 21:35, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Hidden categories[edit]

because knowledge shouldnt be hidden 66.87.7.143 03:54, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Ehm, yes - sure. Those are not "knowledge" categories. They are used for maintenance. Could you please explain that a bit more? --Saibo (Δ) 04:16, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done, no follow-up after several weeks. --rimshottalk 09:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Coins of kerala[edit]

Empty and poorly capitalised. One file exists that could reasonably belong in this category, but the lack of capitalisation means that this should be renamed or that it should be deleted because there's only one known file that belongs here. Nyttend (talk) 18:48, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, bad name. Besides, there is only one image of money of Kerala, which makes it somewhat pointless to create a sub-category for coins. --rimshottalk 21:37, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Square Chapel Centre for the Arts[edit]

empty, duplicates category "Square Chapel". I didn't realize there was already a category when I created this one Auntof6 (talk) 01:13, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Please insert {{Badname|Goodname}} for such simple cases. --Foroa (talk) 17:19, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, you told me that before and I didn't remember. I'll make a note on my user page to help me remember. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:10, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted, bad name. --rimshottalk 21:38, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Mateus[edit]

Should be named Category:Matheus. 141.3.192.51 17:04, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I was looking for a page for requests for moving categories, but did not find the place on Commons. Indeed I misspelled the category. It should be Category:Matheus. After moving Category:Mateus should be deleted. --Gereon K. (talk) 20:40, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I just saw that the category is already deleted and now can be found und Category:Matheus Leite Nascimento. All is well. --Gereon K. (talk) 20:42, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted, bad name. --rimshottalk 00:12, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Image formats[edit]

This name is somewhat ambiguous. I suggest we rename it Category:Image file formats. - dcljr (talk) 22:02, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree, it's a technically better name. For example, an uncompressed TGA or PNG contains image data in a bitmap format. Bitplane (talk) 18:00, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I've removed the {{Category for discussion}} template from the category. I hope that's okay... - dcljr (talk) 23:27, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Image file formats. --rimshottalk 21:39, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Flag with three stripes[edit]

IF its ever used, it should be renamed "Flags with three stripes" Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)


Moved to Category:Flags with three stripes. --rimshottalk 09:47, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Banks in Montreal branches in Quebec[edit]

Accidental, real cat is Bank of Montreal branches in Quebec. Nick Moreau (talk) 17:51, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, bad name. --rimshottalk 21:39, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Not Safe for Work[edit]

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete for the same reasons we do not have Wikimedia board's image censorshipfilter. See also Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Nsfw. Discussion should take place there for now... Saibo (Δ) 20:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - it's nice to know the creator's userpage is unsafe to look at, I will avoid doing so. I personally think a category NSFW would have rather a reverse effect though. Anyway, no point in such a category, if you want to filter content, install filtering software on your pc. Mattbuck 21:14, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Pictogram voting info.svg Info Template:Nsfw is deleted now. So this empty cat can follow now. Deleted. --Saibo (Δ) 23:51, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Scylla Tours AG[edit]

Please move to Category:Scylla AG, company renamed. Watch Skylla (Reederei) in de. WP [1] Biberbaer (talk) 18:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Thx, --Biberbaer (talk) 11:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Redirected, as the old name was once valid. --rimshottalk 21:40, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Files by Geolina163[edit]

Delete! this Category is unnecessary - it`an double from Category:Images uploaded by Geolina163 - redundant. 1971markus (☠): ⇒ Laberkasten ... 23:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

✓ Done per author request. --Túrelio (talk) 07:22, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted, bad name. --rimshottalk 21:41, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Former_quality_images[edit]

No purpose for this category, QI always QI. Delete unused category. Tony Wills (talk) 07:38, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, unused. --rimshottalk 00:30, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Mary D'Angelo Performing Arts Center[edit]

Empty category. No viable images on Commons GrapedApe (talk) 12:31, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 00:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Bugs Bunny[edit]

This is nothing but a magnet for copyvios. Bugs Bunny is copyrighted. FunkMonk (talk) 01:30, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Right now, there's pictures of non-copyrighted parts of Bugs Bunny films in the category. We could also have photos of Bugs Bunny statues or what not in FOP parts of the world--we've generally kept such things, though that's debatable.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Despite being a copyrighted character, Bugs Bunny has a number of public domain shorts in his filmography, all of which entered the public domain due to the failure of their last rightsholder, United Artists Productions, to renew the original copyrights on such films. I feel that all of the files in this category are acceptable per Commons policies, and none of them should be treated as copyvios. In addition, we can also accept title cards from those of Bugs's films that remain copyrighted as long as such title cards are classified as below the U.S. threshold of originality, and statues, costumes, etc. of Bugs can be accepted here as long as they were uploaded by citizens of FoP countries. On second thought, Warner Brothers has not been as protective of its copyright on Bugs Bunny as Disney has been regarding its copyright on Mickey Mouse, if you want my opinion. — Seth Allen (discussion/contributions), 01:47, Tuesday, February 21, 2012 (UTC).
If the character is copyrighted, it doesn't matter if the film itself is not. Same if the film used copyrighted music, even if the film became PD, the music doesn't, these are separate copyrights. FunkMonk (talk) 02:09, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
OK, I understand now, that film copyrights are limited to images only and do not extend to the characters, compositions, or stories contained therein, unless such elements are original to their respective films. I have filled this category with an extensive supply of title cards from shorts throughout Bugs Bunny's filmography, all of which are composed entirely of elements that qualify as "common property, without original authorship." Also, regarding an image of the rabbit as he appeared in Falling Hare (one of the few shorts of his that have fallen into the public domain) which had been deleted from Commons before, I have added that image to a list of files that should be undeleted in 2036, as Bugs was created in 1940, and will remain under copyright until the copyright on his debut film A Wild Hare expires in 2035.
And with that, the category no longer appears to be a "magnet for copyvios", as there are more images now that don't depict the copyrighted character than images that do. — Seth Allen (discussion/contributions), 04:33, Saturday, March 10, 2012 (UTC).

Kept. The copyrighted character only appears in less than one-third of all total images that are presently in this category. -- SethAllen623 (talk) 16:30, Friday, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Sculptures of Saint Martin in the Netherlands[edit]

empty category Willemnabuurs (talk) 15:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)


Moved to Statues of Saint Martin of Tours .... --rimshottalk 19:20, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Sculptures of Saint Martin by country[edit]

empty category Willemnabuurs (talk) 15:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)


Moved to Statues of Saint Martin of Tours .... --rimshottalk 19:21, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Statues of Saint Martin in the Netherlands[edit]

empty category Willemnabuurs (talk) 15:49, 19 February 2012 (UTC)


Moved to Statues of Saint Martin of Tours .... --rimshottalk 19:21, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Pictures and images by country[edit]

We should either move this to Category:Images by country or merge it into Category:Countries. - dcljr (talk) 22:27, 21 February 2012 (UTC) — (See also CFD entry for Category:Pictures and images.)

Fair warning, if no one has made any comments on this by March 6th, I'm just going to act unilaterally and pick one of the options mentioned above. - dcljr (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Category:Images by country, certainly not Category:Countries. Category:Photographs by country might be a more uniform choice provided that the images go to "photographs of New Jersey" . --Foroa (talk) 08:13, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Except not all images related to a country are photographs of (things in) the country — e.g., flags, maps, coats of arms, presidential seals, military insignia, graphs of population growth, etc. In any case, you've already moved it to Category:Images by country, which is fine by me. - dcljr (talk) 23:48, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
The category has been moved to Category:Images by country (not by me). - dcljr (talk) 21:30, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Images by country. CFD for main category still pending. --rimshottalk 22:00, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Pictures and images by format[edit]

We should merge this into Category:Image file formats. - dcljr (talk) 22:37, 21 February 2012 (UTC) — (See also CFD entry for Category:Pictures and images.)

Fair warning, if no one has made any comments on this by March 6th, I'm just going to act unilaterally. - dcljr (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Images by format. Not the same as file formats. --Foroa (talk) 07:49, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
The current contents are the subcats:
This illustrates one problem with nominating certain specific categories for discussion: there are always related categories that would need to be changed to be consistent/compatible with the suggested changes. I submit that "format" is too ambiguous a term when applied to images. If we keep Category:Vector images, it would seem we'd need to create Category:Raster images to complement it. I'm not sure where those two should go (as subcats), other than just Category:Images (what is now called Category:Pictures and images). - dcljr (talk) 00:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
I have emptied this category and re-nominated it for deletion. See that nom for more information. - dcljr (talk) 23:47, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Merged to Category:Image file formats‎. --rimshottalk 22:02, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Pictures and images by language[edit]

Either move to Category:Images by language or merge into Category:Languages. - dcljr (talk) 22:40, 21 February 2012 (UTC) — (See also CFD entry for Category:Pictures and images.)

Fair warning, if no one has made any comments on this by March 6th, I'm just going to act unilaterally and pick one of the options mentioned above. - dcljr (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Category has been redirected to Category:Images by language (not by me). - dcljr (talk) 21:32, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Images by language. CFD for main category still pending. --rimshottalk 22:03, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Pictures and images by resolution[edit]

Should probably be moved to Category:Images by size (see also next CFD entry). - dcljr (talk) 22:42, 21 February 2012 (UTC) — (See also CFD entry for Category:Pictures and images.)

Fair warning, if no one has made any comments on this by March 6th, I'm just going to act unilaterally. - dcljr (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
By resolution is more accurate. Size depends too much on the format (tiff, png, ...) --Foroa (talk) 07:18, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Images by resolution. CFD for main category still pending. --rimshottalk 22:10, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Pictures and images by size or form[edit]

Should be split into Category:Images by size (see also previous CFD entry) and Category:Image file formats. - dcljr (talk) 22:43, 21 February 2012 (UTC) — (See also CFD entry for Category:Pictures and images.)

Fair warning, if no one has made any comments on this by March 6th, I'm just going to act unilaterally. - dcljr (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Form has nothing to do with size or format. --Foroa (talk) 08:06, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I don't see what the word "form" even means in this context, given the contents of the category. It is too ambiguous a term. dcljr (talk) 20:18, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Category doesn't make sense. It's subcategories are sorted by size (large, small), resolution (1280x960), aspect ratio (widescreen), shape (round), and function (wallpaper). Not needed. Rocket000 (talk) 17:59, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Merged to Category:Images by technical criteria. CFD for main category still pending. --rimshottalk 22:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Pictures and images by source[edit]

Suggest move to Category:Images by source. - dcljr (talk) 22:44, 21 February 2012 (UTC) — (See also CFD entry for Category:Pictures and images.)

Fair warning, if no one has made any comments on this by March 6th, I'm just going to act unilaterally. - dcljr (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Speaking on unilateral action Category:Pictures and images by source is in the process of being moved to Category:Images by source despite this ongoing discussion. I don't see where that was discussed. --Tony Wills (talk) 12:57, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Images by source. CFD for main category still pending. --rimshottalk 22:13, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Pictures and images by usage[edit]

Suggest move to Category:Images by usage. - dcljr (talk) 22:47, 21 February 2012 (UTC) — (See also CFD entry for Category:Pictures and images.)

Fair warning, if no one has made any comments on this by March 6th, I'm just going to act unilaterally. - dcljr (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Since no discussion has happened on this item, and most of the other similar suggested renames have been done already, I'm going ahead and making the change I suggested. Moving items to new cat Category:Images by usage and leaving cat redirect at old cat. - dcljr (talk) 22:46, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Images by usage. CFD for main category still pending. --rimshottalk 22:15, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Hiking in Nagorno-Karabakh[edit]

empty category Ray Garraty (talk) 14:07, 22 February 2012 (UTC)


Moved to Category:Hiking in Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. --rimshottalk 22:17, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Reliefs of Saint Martin in the Netherlands[edit]

erroneously created. can be deleted Willemnabuurs (talk) 17:27, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, author request. --rimshottalk 20:58, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Romanesque capitals in the province of Ourense (Spain)[edit]

to delete GFreihalter (talk) 20:58, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, author request. --rimshottalk 20:58, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:"Apparition_of_the_Spider_Princess"(芳年漫画_天延四年秋妖怪土蜘蛛脳源頼光寝所酒田公時等宿直欲払其妖図),_by_Tsukioka_Yoshitoshi[edit]

Superfluous "芳年漫画 天延四年秋妖怪土蜘蛛脳源頼光寝所酒田公時等宿直欲払其妖図" appendix for this category. Commons category names must be in englsh; the rest should be explaned in the category description and not in the category lemma 80.187.96.24 00:45, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

  • don't care that much, but it's bad form NOT to have category topics searchable in the source-language(s) for those topic(s). (it's also bad form not to have the whole category tree & search system fully inter-lingual, but that's too much of a "miracle" to hope for anytime soon... ) Lx 121 (talk) 01:21, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
(also: why the "anonymous" ip siggy (with no previous history attached) from someone who is obviously an experienced editor @ wmc? o__0) Lx 121 (talk) 01:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted: No need for a translation in category names. Write a suitable description in the category as required in COM:CAT if you want to. For the rest Commons:Language policy applies. --High Contrast (talk) 10:59, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Rigga_Al_Buteen[edit]

Contains only COM:FOP#United Arab Emirates violations. 84.61.139.62 19:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)



deleted by User:Fastily. --JuTa 19:11, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
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Category:IIT_Rupnagar[edit]

Empty, was probably meant to be Category:IIT Ropar. Muhandes (talk) 19:28, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


Moved to Category:IIT Ropar. --rimshottalk 20:05, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Norland Town[edit]

empty category Auntof6 (talk) 22:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


Kept, not empty. --rimshottalk 20:07, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Skyscrapers_in_Latina[edit]

Contains only COM:FOP#Italy violations. 84.61.139.62 16:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted. --84.61.167.13 15:59, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:402e Régiment d’Artillerie[edit]

Contains only COM:FOP#France violations. 84.61.139.62 15:14, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep File:402 RA Afghanistan.jpg was kept. --84.61.167.13 14:42, 28 July 2012 (UTC)



kept shouldn't it be CfD ? However cat is in use and files were kept. --PierreSelim (talk) 08:14, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Nude or partially nude girls in anime and manga[edit]

This category is in violation with the NPOV policy of Wikimedia. It's only there to discriminate content based on personal value judgement (what is nudity?) and serves no purpose other then hiding content from reusers due to personal sensitivities. /人 ‿‿ 人\ 苦情処理係 12:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

  • There is no 'NPOV policy of Wikimedia.' There is an NPOV policy on ENWP that deals with content and categorization, but this is not ENWP. COM:NPOV says nothing about categorization, and specifies that images themselves need not be neutral. This category is however important to follow wmf:Resolution:Controversial_content, which unlike ENWP's NPOV policy is a project wide mandate. It's incorrect to say that this categorization 'hides content from reusers.' It doesn't hide anything, it places it in an appropriate subcategory where anyone who wants to see nude images can look. This category is the 4th thing from the top on the general category page. Kgorman-ucb (talk) 22:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I also note that you aren't complaining about any of the other subcategories of 'Girls in anime and manga,' including cat:Wikipe-tan, which, by your standard, is 'hiding' more than 260 images. Kgorman-ucb (talk) 22:40, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Because it says nothing about categorization and Commons is essentially a library and it makes sense to apply the same rules as libraries do. You said that COM:NPOV does not mention categories. The Resolution does not mention categories either.
Mentioning the Wikipe-tan category has nothing todo with this. Wikipe-tan is a fixed term and the amount of images would flood the higher category. It was created to aid the viewer and not to hide content from the eyes of the viewer, as done with this kind of constructed category. -- /人 ‿‿ 人\ 苦情処理係 23:28, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
It's hard to take the rest of your reply seriously when you didn't bother to read the thing you're talking about. The resolution explicitly mentions commons categorization. Kgorman-ucb (talk) 21:34, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep For God's sake, do the COM:NOTCENSORED extremists have zero respect for users who are actually looking for nude content? This is a useful category. End of. Rd232 (talk) 11:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Apart from the nature of this request, which point is not clear at all, this is an useful category. Useful as any other useful category, of course. I don't care for nude content, but find useful such categorization both for those who look for nude content and for those who DON'T want to see it. -- Blackcat (talk) 12:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep, useful and valuable category, appropriate method of categorization. -- Cirt (talk) 16:54, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep But {{rename}} to Category:Nude girls in anime and manga, almost every manga character is partially nude (not wearing gloves, burqa, etc) The category should be for fully undressed (no chothes) images. VolodyA! V Anarhist Beta_M (converse) 16:28, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Suggest rename. The use of the word "nudity" would (tend to) cover both "fully" and "partially" nude characters. Also, since the vast majority of female anime characters are in fact (supposed to be) girls rather than women, suggest something like Category:Female nudity in anime and manga. - dcljr (talk) 20:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
I'd see no problem with such a renaming. In creating the category, I just used the naming scheme that someone else (I forget who at this point) had recently been creating a lot of categories with. Kgorman-ucb (talk) 01:04, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep helps people looking for ecchi/hentai on Commons find it. Deleting it would only help the anti-sex squad here. --Claritas (talk) 07:43, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Per Norm. -- Gddea - Daniel E. Als-Juliussen (talk) 06:40, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Kept - consensus appears to be that this is the better option. -mattbuck (Talk) 11:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Custom made photos[edit]

Vague name; unclear what "custom made" is supposed to mean. --Trivialist (talk) 02:32, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, purpose of category not clear. --rimshottalk 21:03, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Oval Heraldic Shields[edit]

Redundant to Category:Oval-shaped heraldic shields‎, can be deleted!? Perhelion (talk) 04:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, bad capitalization, duplicate. --rimshottalk 06:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Videos of male masturbation by year[edit]

Why should “videos of male masturbation” be categorized by time?? Why would somebody want to find such a video from a specific year?? Mormegil (talk) 09:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep, because it's a standard and accepted method of categorization. If you want to add an additional method of categorization by quality or another metric, you can:
  1. Create an additional categorization by quality.
  2. Create a gallery page.
  3. Create a categorization by technology.
  4. Create a categorization by another, additional helpful method.

Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 16:35, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted. Content moved to Category:Videos of male masturbation by decade. -- Cirt (talk) 18:55, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


Deleted, as per discussion. --rimshottalk 20:10, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Radio_broadcasting[edit]

redundant to, and should be integrated into, Category:Broadcasting Cqdx (talk) 02:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I understand your thinking, but in Commons Category:Broadcasting (Radio telecommunications\Broadcasting) contains many audio radio pictures and Category:Radio broadcasting (Radio telecommunications\Broadcasting\Radio\Radio broadcasting) contained TV pictures, and many pictures in these categories contain both audio and video, therefore there is no category "television broadcasting". The mixture of radio (wireless) and radio (audio) is confusing. Category:Broadcasting is already in a radio category. --Cqdx (talk) 05:16, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Although I think this category should stay (at least with some name), I do agree with some of your points:
  • First, having "Category:Radio" under "Category:Broadcasting" is a bit odd; other forms of "radio" are common enough that there is non-broadcast communication the general public still calls "radio" in daily life, such as walkie-talkies. I don't have a good answer for what order things should be in there, except that somehow Category:Radio broadcasting is a cultural use of radio signals, that should somehow be under both a radio communications category and a broadcasting category.
  • And you're right that some other categories contain an odd selection of files: I noticed that people (or at least the automatic categorization suggestion bots) tend to dump everything into Category:Radio instead of subcategories; I think that's more from not knowing what other kind of radio there could be. They should be "drilled down" into their correct categories.
  • And I noticed that there is Category:Television and not Category:Television broadcasting. I assume that's because the main use of the word "television" is broadcasting (assuming one counts cable TV and multi-channel satellite as broadcasting). There are also amateur television (see Category:Slow scan television on Commons) and Closed-circuit television for example. Other than CCTV, I can't think of any video service called "television" that is not broadcast, though. --Closeapple (talk) 20:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - Useful to distinguish between the different types of broadcasting. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:43, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Strong Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Not redundant at all. Radio broadcasting, as opposed to for example agricultural broadcasting or television broadcasting. -- Infrogmation (talk) 18:22, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete. As outlined in the request, television is broadcasted over radio waves, and the category Broadcasting contains both audio and TV, because studio technology is identical, except for the addition of a camera. --DL1FL (talk) 19:20, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
    • As someone who has worked in both radio and television, I can say that the statement that "studio technology is identical, except for the addition of a camera" is simply false. -- Infrogmation (talk) 19:57, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Many items are uniquely related to radio. The broadcasting transmitter technology maybe shared with TV, the rest isn't always. --Foroa (talk) 07:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Kept: King of ♠ 11:10, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Brakenhill[edit]

empty category Auntof6 (talk) 23:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I am under the impression that it should be Brackenhill according to OS grid reference SE4216. On the other hand, it looks as if there are 3 or 4 Brackenhill in the UK, + Bracken Hill + Brackenhills. Good luck to untangle that. --Foroa (talk) 15:00, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Brackenhill. --rimshottalk 23:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Automobiles on holiday in Italy[edit]

That category is not really useful, besides: is there a prove that those automobiles actually were on holiday in Italy, cause until now I have seen a lot of automobiles that were used to get to your holidays and drive around with them, but I've never seen an automobile that was on holiday.--FAEP (talk) 14:02, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Emptied and deleted. --Foroa (talk) 17:27, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
I was invited to participate in this discussion but the page was deleted before I could write something--Pava (talk) 05:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted, no reason given for restoring it in almost a year. --rimshottalk 23:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Automobiles on holiday[edit]

Good news for some people who might have thought that there car had been stolen. You can relax, it's just on holiday! --FAEP (talk) 14:17, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I was invited to participate in this discussion but the page was deleted before I could write something--Pava (talk) 05:52, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted, no reason given for restoring it in almost a year. --rimshottalk 23:26, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Pictures and images[edit]

There are several categories having names starting with "Pictures and images" (not counting redirected cats and one user cat):

If I were to guess, I would say "pictures" was intended to refer to photographs (and scans, etc.) and "images" to computer-created drawings and illustrations, but the terms are at best ambiguous and at worst redundant. I suggest we rename or merge these categories, as appropriate. (See separate nominations below.)

In particular, for Category:Pictures and images I suggest renaming it Category:Images (which is actually a soft redirect to Category:Pictures and images). Note that the category is only really required as a subcat of Category:Media types. - dcljr (talk) 22:20, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Fair warning, if no one has made any comments on this by March 6th, I'm just going to act unilaterally (as described above). - dcljr (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Thats not fair warning let the discussions take their course now you've started them someone independent will close these when there is consensus then you can do what ever the discussion resolves Gnangarra 07:31, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Actually, two weeks is the typical time for disucssions, according to CFD guidelines. If no one has commented in that time, there's no discussion to "close". Yes, someone will eventually close it, but nothing will have been decided. In such a case, I think it's not unreasonable for the original nominator to take whatever actions they think are best. OTOH, obviously if a discussion has taken place and no consensus is reached, then the original nominator should not act unilaterally. - dcljr (talk) 20:14, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
  • "Picture" and "image" are near-synonyms.[2][3] Rename/move "Pictures and images" to "images" in the instances above. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 03:10, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
  • No problems with me. I did already quite some cleanup and renaming. --Foroa (talk) 07:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Redunant and unnecessary if it to stay really some definitions about the structure first, drill down one level on Category:Pictures and images by country and you only get Category:Image sources by country seams to me that the purpose isnt clear I expected to see Category:Pictures and Images of Australia etc. before moving stuff around and changing things what is the intended structure and purpose is there some other format that covers this say like Category:Countries and as such making picture and images by country totally redundant as its a duplicate of what already exists. Gnangarra 07:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I hadn't looked at that, that is another mess to clean up :-). Also going the other direction "Media with locations" doesn't belong to "Media types" --Tony Wills (talk) 08:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I removed "Media with locations" from "Media types" as geocoded location information has nothing to do with the "type" of media, it's just information about the location of the camera taking the photo. --Tony Wills (talk) 12:33, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I see no advantage to renaming it "images", "images" is a far more ambiguous term that covers a myriad of things (eg some PDFs are just scanned images of pages, films (movies) are just "moving images"). "Pictures" is actually just a qualification to "images" (to help people guess what goes in there ;-).
But going back a step, what is the category for, well it is just to distinguish different media types (the word media can if course be taken to mean a lot of things!), but here we have seperate branches for images of texts (pdf djvu), "Timed Text‎" (slide shows of images with annotations?), animated images (generally strung together drawn images, but sometimes strung together photographic images*), and movies/videos (strung together photographic images). "Images" isn't really a distinguishing name, it really encompases all these types, and is really meaningless as a subcategory of media types. What distinguishes media in this category is that they are "static", "individual" images. We could call it "Static images" which is fairly specific, but perhaps not obvious. Perhaps "Photographs and illustrations" would be the least ambiguous (although a little long) but then it may be thought that "photographs" means images of physical photographs.
On balance I think it is hardly worth changing (it will confuse as much as it helps, and will no doubt be renamed again by the next Commons generation who find it ambiguous :-). I would tend towards something like "Static images" (if we are happy to ignore the fact that pdfs are fairly static, and that if anybody asks I would have to say that a "static image" is well, ... just a "picture" :-). --Tony Wills (talk) 08:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
PS how about "Pictures and illustrations" ?) --Tony Wills (talk) 08:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I see no reason for a three word title. Possibilities (all from an American English POV)

  • Images -- most generic, includes all files that do not have an audio component. Is our generic word for such things. This would be my choice to replace "pictures and images" as all the rest are subsets.
  • Pictures -- ambiguous, some readers will see it as narrowly as "landscapes and portraits", others will read it to include only paintings and drawings. Most readers will think it does not include PDFs of text.
  • Photographs -- very ambiguous. Many readers will question whether a photograph of a painting belongs here. Or, for that matter, a photograph of any work of art. Does a scan of a photograph in a book belong here? All of these are reasons that we rarely use the term in discussions on Commons.
  • Illustrations -- more or less synonymous with "pictures" -- a picture is an illustration if it is used to illustrate something, but not if it is simply a thing of beauty. Thus a Monet might be an illustration in an article titled "Works of Monet", but not if it were in a gallery "Beautiful Landscapes".

     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 13:43, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I have seen all sorts of combinations of category names combining the words images, pictures, drawings, illustrations, ... and none of them was ever satisfactory.
We have on only 8 Pictures and images categories, thousands of "images of/by/from " categories.
"image:" was the way of designating a file on Commons till a couple of years ago. It still works: Image:Crystal Project image file.png and it will take another ten years or so before all the image:references are updated from all files and docs.
So, I think that we should consider a specific word to designate a file: or electronic medium, but in the mean time, we can go ahead to uniformise the thing, mainly as proposed. --Foroa (talk) 18:16, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Note that this category is linked to from the Main Page, where the three main media types are listed as "Images", "Sounds", and "Videos". So it seems clear that we need some main category for files that aren't sound or video, regardless of what we call it (so, no simple deletion option here). I agree with Foroa that "images" is a common enough name for it. And presumably whoever was involved in putting the "Images" link on the homepage would agree. (Consider also: Google Images, Bing Images, Yahoo! Image search, Getty Images, NASA Images, etc. — "everyone knows" what the word "images" refers to in these contexts, so why should it be so ambiguous here at Commons?) Whatever is decided here (if anything), we probably need a more general Village Pump discussion about the uppermost levels of the category hierarchy, and what types of cats we want there with what names... - dcljr (talk) 23:01, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Images and subcategories. --rimshottalk 23:34, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Pictures and images by topic[edit]

Seems to be redundant with Category:Topics, so merge into that. - dcljr (talk) 22:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC) — (See also CFD entry for Category:Pictures and images.)

Despite the request on the CfD banner to not do so, I see that Foroa has already pre-empted the result and started depopulating this category already. Consensus? Admins have heard of it... Andy Dingley (talk) 01:03, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
What result? What consensus? No one has given any opinions on any of the "pictures and images" nominations I have made here. Not even you. [g] - dcljr (talk) 22:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Fair warning, if no one has made any (substantive) comments on this by March 6th, I'm just going to act unilaterally (as described above). - dcljr (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Need be emptied and connected to their topic. Basically, all categories contain mainly images, no need for a redundant images by topic. --Foroa (talk) 07:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Andy, this is not a matter of consensus, just pure logic that we should avoid redundant category trees: all cats are by topic anyway. --Foroa (talk) 08:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Images and subcategories. --rimshottalk 23:39, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Pictures and images with text[edit]

Suggest move to Category:Images containing text. - dcljr (talk) 22:48, 21 February 2012 (UTC) — (See also CFD entry for Category:Pictures and images.)

Fair warning, if no one has made any comments on this by March 6th, I'm just going to act unilaterally. - dcljr (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Since no discussion has happened on this item, and most of the other similar suggested renames have been done already, I'm going ahead and making the change I suggested. Moving items to new cat Category:Images containing text and leaving cat redirect at old cat. I believe a bot will be along shortly to move the individual images? If it hasn't done (a significant portion of) that in the next day or so, I'll be back to manually recat the images myself. - dcljr (talk) 22:52, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Ah, I see this needs to be requested by an administrator (see note at bottom of cat-redirect warning box in the old cat). I'll wait a bit, in case others are still watching this (non-) "discussion", then I'll make the request myself at User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands. - dcljr (talk) 08:11, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
The files have the new category now, but I would suggest to keep Category:Pictures and images with text for images with a text description on the side or below, like this or this one. To do this, the redirect has to be removed. Perhaps there should also be a subcategory for pictures with text only like here?--Funfood 23:20, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Having both of these categories would be too confusing because of the similarity in names (not to mention the problem that this nomination was supposed to be addressing in the first place, that "Pictures and images" is redundant). Note that Category:Images with captions currently redirects to Category:Images with watermarks; perhaps that category could be "resurrected" for cases such as the ones you pointed to (since captions and other marginal text aren't really the same thing as watermarks). Or maybe some other, more descriptive category title could be thought up. Category:Images containing text in the margins? As pointed out in the "watermarks" category, removal of such identifying text from images is encouraged (the info can go on the respective File: pages instead), so even if you do put images like the ones you linked to into some category, it would only be to collect images that need editing to remove the text, right? - dcljr (talk) 05:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I didn't notice the caption-category yet - I think this would be exactly the right thing without the redirect. I am not really going with the policy to remove captions from images, I think that the combination of "image with caption" has kind of a historical character, so they should be kept for documentation purpose.--Funfood 11:10, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Looking through the images currently at Category:Images containing text, I'm not sure I could reliably separate images into a separate "captions" (or whatever) subcategory. That's not to say I think it shouldn't be done, just that I don't think I would be interested in doing that myself. I do wish we could get more opinions from others about this, but since this nomination is now almost 6 weeks old, and no one else has commented here until you did 2 days ago, it seems unlikely that anyone else will notice this. You should probably just nominate Category:Images with captions for discussion and explain what you want to do. (Note the "Nominate category for discussion" link on category page.) - dcljr (talk) 23:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Images and subcategories. --rimshottalk 23:35, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Nephi Anderson[edit]

This Category seems to fail that Commons:Category scheme People. It seems extremely silly to me to have Categories used by only one image. Are we supposed to have Categories for every single person who has a photo on commons? Nephi Anderson died in 1923, so additional images of him seem highly unlikely, but if they ever do appear, then the Category can be recreated. However, until that time I think this Category should be deleted and the image moved into the appropriate categories. ----ARTEST4ECHO talk 15:20, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

At first blush, single image cats don't make a lot of sense. I think, though, that when the person is in many categories that have a large number of images, that having a subcat rather than as an image in each of them might be a good thing. Even given that, I would not have created this cat, but given that we already had it, and that deletion does not actually delete it, it seemed better to keep it.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:36, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
One has a much better overview of many elements in a category if they are sorted and alphabetical. Most single picture categories get expanded, so once the first categorisation is right, all the new pictures inherit that. Try for example to find a picture of a specific person (for example Te'o) in Category:Immigrants to the United States. --Foroa (talk) 16:38, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
I wouldn't have created the category, but it now has Authority Control--an indication of some notability. Google scholar yields over 60 hits and Google Images appears to have at least 5-10 relevant images; no idea whether they licensed appropriately. Once it's created, I wouldn't push for deletion; there's too much chance that another picture will be added. If Foroa's right, leaving this alone will save doubled work.
SBaker43 (talk) 05:19, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Kept as per Foroa. --rimshottalk 23:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

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Category:FSE Ad 01–10[edit]

Empty category, should be deleted Friedrichstrasse (talk) 14:30, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


Kept, not empty. --rimshottalk 23:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Geert Grote[edit]

Transfer to Category:Geert Groote Geert Grote ist misspelling] 1971markus (☠): ⇒ Laberkasten ... 23:42, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so: in his country, it is nl:Geert Grote. --Foroa (talk) 06:22, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Both spellings are in use. It seems best to keep the one that corresponds with the title of the Dutch Wikipedia article, as Foroa suggests. Apdency (talk) 19:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Kept, as per Foroa. --rimshottalk 23:26, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Yates's Wine Lodge[edit]

category is empty and duplicates category "Yates's Wine Lodge, Bar Lane, Leeds" Auntof6 (talk) 04:01, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Not a duplicate, Yates's is a chain, the one mentioned is a branch. Please research these things before deleting. Shall recreate. Mtaylor848 (talk) 15:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Excuse me! The only entry was the one for Leeds, so I don't see the need for the more-general category anyway. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:20, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Just because they may not be yet, it is likely there will be soon. Mtaylor848 (talk) 15:54, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Kept, as predicted there are now subcategories. --rimshottalk 22:24, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Cackleshaw[edit]

empty category Auntof6 (talk) 23:33, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Withdraw request, category is no longer empty. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Kept, not empty. --rimshottalk 22:28, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Category:Chemtrails[edit]

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This category brings together documents that refer to chemtrails. It does not present evidence for their (dubious) existence. I propose that the category be renamed to "Chemtrail conspiracy theory" just like the Wikipedia page. Moreover, I believe that sky pictures which identify trails as chemtrails should either be sourced ("that person on that external website says these are chemtrails") or be categorized merely as contrails. Ariadacapo (talk) 08:13, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


Found this link to House of Commons discussion about geoengineering which mentions aerosol techniques from aircraft. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/221/22102.htm


Conclusion: Redirecting to Category:Chemtrail conspiracy theory Ariadacapo (talk) 06:33, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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Category:World_War_II_memorials_in_France[edit]

Neither France nor the United States have FOP for memorials. 84.61.139.62 20:06, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

  • I agree with above article, BUT we must define what is copyrightable. A stone or a plate/slab or a column with the names of the deads or the name of a battle, is surely not copyrightable as being not a work of art. Don't be more royalist than the King.--FLLL (talk) 10:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

+1 with FLLL. Plus, if it was really a FOP problem, a RfD would have been more appropriate. Could we close this discussion now ? Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 19:29, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


Kept as per discussion. Nominate individual files for deletion as necessary. The category as a whole does not need to be deleted. --rimshottalk 22:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Portable_objects[edit]

Category not useful. Can include everything, from jewelry to handguns. Cqdx (talk) 02:10, 3 February 2012 (UTC) ...and there is already Category:Handheld devices for portable electronics equipment. --Cqdx (talk) 02:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Portable equipment or devices might be a better name indeed. --Foroa (talk) 16:14, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
My same reasoning also applies to "portable equipment, devices, stuff, things, matters, etc." It all sounds like a huge and useless super-category. --Cqdx (talk) 17:24, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

...and it is in the eye of the beholder whether this oven is "portable". --Cqdx (talk) 16:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, there are portable houses and buildings too. With your narrow categorisation logic, one can as well delete the majority of the categories in Objects by animal shape, Objects by association, Objects by bird shape, Objects by color, Objects by condition, Objects by country, Objects by era, Objects by function, Objects by location, Objects by material, Objects by name, Objects by origin, Objects by shape, Objects by type ... Proper hierarchical categorisation about one line of thinking is a basic need but Commons is a server that needs to help finding items, so you might find many surprising categories, such as Category:Number Shape System. --Foroa (talk) 16:25, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
It gets slightly off topic. The category "portable objects" is under "objects by function" - I doubt it is a function to be portable. Rather a side attribute. --Cqdx (talk) 18:49, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
I've found this class very helpful, but I think it should just be a meta-category, or should only contain subcategories. I found it extremely useful to categorize this other category: Category:Portable Typewriters, which in turn contains Category:Olivetti Valentine --Pava (talk) 07:28, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Kept, useful as per Foroa and Pava. --rimshottalk 11:26, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Most Przemysła I w Poznaniu[edit]

The normal language on Commons is English - so this category should be translated into the English language as well 80.187.97.78 18:42, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

The syntax can be translated but the proper local names of the bridge and the city shouldn't be translated. --ŠJů (talk) 05:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Przemysł I bridge in Poznań as per nom. The redirect should be kept for the benefit of Polish-speaking users. --rimshottalk 14:00, 5 May 2014 (UTC)