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Category:Buildings_in_Belgium_by_year_of_completion[edit]

If buildings by architects are copyrighted until 70 years after the architect dies, then these images would appear to need a license from the architect or heirs. Maybe some are non-artistic, but none contains any obvious permission. 84user (talk) 17:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

There still could be images of buildings which do not require permission due to de minimis or other reason, however I tend to agree that this kind of category is not very useful. Buildings are known by location or architect or by period of construction (century, eventually decade) not by year of completion. Just taking as an example one of the most populated categories of this type Category:Built in the United States in 1975 reveals how useless they are. In my opinion this is just disruptive category clutter. There is already a Category:20th century architecture in Belgium, and for engineering structures a category such as "20th century structures in Belgium" would far more useful. --ELEKHHT 22:55, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Bringing in hit counter opens up a can of worms. By the same logic, category:Buildings in the United States, which has only around 3 hits pers day, is only marginally "less useless". NVO (talk) 09:54, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Ah yes, I missed that it's the date of death and not the completion date that is relevant for copyright (even though I had written just that).

I actually did not intend to suggest this category should be deleted, instead that the images need to be discussed. I *assumed* this category was made to help with copyright determination but the completion date does not help. Maybe Category:Buildings in Belgium by architect's year of death would be useful: if before 1941 we know the building and photographs of it are in the public domain. A mass deletion nomination might be in order. Another example is Category:Buildings in France by year of completion with 172 subcategories and half of them built after 1860. -84user (talk) 00:32, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

All this fop lunacy gradually ended up in the depletion of "by year" and "by architect" categories. Not through deletion, but because smart ass uploaders like yours truly deliberately evade these categories. No wonder Belgian "by year categories" are empty. Perhaps deletion is, indeed, justified. NVO (talk) 09:54, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

 Not done In the no-FOP-in-Belgium discussion, it should be the files to be deleted, not the categories. Moreover, these categories don't tell anything about the no-FOP-status. Henxter (talk) 15:45, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:London 2012[edit]

Appropriate redirect as London 2012 corresponds to the Paralympics as well. Either have 2012 summer oly and 2012 summer para linked from this category or it should be deleted entirely imo for being misleading Flickrworker (talk) 10:33, 2 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted as per nom. --rimshottalk 23:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Bischofsschloss Markdorf[edit]

Delete! (incomplete, unused, uncategorized) Passerose (talk) 19:09, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

As the creator consented here, I nominated the category for speedy deletion. --Passerose (talk) 11:03, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Has been deleted and is empty. --Passerose (talk) 06:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Ichмoul[edit]

Can this cat please be deleted, it has a spelling mistake, contents are now at Category:Ichmoul. Liamdavies (talk) 14:33, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes its my mistake, delate this cat --Vikoula5 (talk) 02:00, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted, bad name. Moved to Category:Ichmoul. --rimshottalk 22:11, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Homeless of Toronto[edit]

This category was created April 13th. At that time there were other categories, like Category:Homelessness in Toronto and Category:Homeless shelters in Toronto. I see no sign of any discussion as to why this cateogory should be placed in parallel with the existing categories in April, and I see no sign of any discussion that all the images in those categories should be moved into this category.

Categories are an inherently flawed feature, for many reasons, including that they don't record any history of their elements. So long as we are going to continue to use them while we wait for a superior replacement, I regard it as ESSENTIAL we use them in a disciplined way.

In particular, no matter how much confidence you have in your reasoning, PLEASE don't hijack the contents of existing categories without explanation.

If you are an administrator PLEASE don't encourage chaos by deleting empty categories without checking to see if it recently had its elements hijacked.

Maybe there are arguments for Category:Homeless of Toronto, consistency with other cities, or something. But some of these images are not of homeless people, but are of their squats, or shelters -- so they don't fit in this category name. Geo Swan (talk) 15:26, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Nobody hijacked a category, and there was no chaos. Such accusations are neither correct nor helpful.

As for the substantive issue, there appears to be a category structure consisting of a parent, "Category:Homelessness in [place]", with subs "Category:Homeless of [place]" for people and "Category:Homeless shelters in [place]" for buildings and facilities serving the homeless. That makes sense. Geo is absolutely correct that some of the content in Category:Homeless of Toronto does not belong there, and it is completely unclear why Category:Homelessness in Toronto and Category:Homeless shelters in Toronto were incorrectly deleted. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


  • Everything has been restored to how it was before. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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Category:Football Club Internazionale Milano[edit]

Milano is not English it should be Milan as per Commons:Language policy. As for Internazionale well I don't know. Do we leave it, shorten it to inter or call it International. Flickrworker (talk) 12:19, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

To add the main point of this is if you look at the other categories to do with this team, some are at Inter Milan, others are at FC Internazionale or any change upon that, so we need something that is consistent.
"Football Club Internazionale Milano" is the proper name of the club, it's not "FC Internazionale". If you see the club badge (here, for example) it reads "FCIM" which is the acronymous as "Football Club Internazionale Milano", as well as, i.e. "Amatori Rugby Milano is the proper name of the rugby union club. Other names as "Inter Milan" or "FC Inter" and so are wrong. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat)
So to clarify you would want all categories to be xxx FC Internazinale Milano. Which probably is the best thing to do as a quick look at UEFA seems to agree although they are slightly patchy but I think that's more to do with name length and making it look neat [on pages such as this http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2013/clubs/club=50138/matches/index.html]. Flickrworker (talk) 21:45, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Indeed my goal is to uniform all the subcategories to the style as "Players of Football Club Internazionale Milano", "Coaches of Football Club Internazionale Milano" and so on. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 10:11, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
P.S. FC Internazionale Milano is also fine. What I meant to say is that "Milano" is part of the proper name of the club.

✓ Done - orphanized category and moved to category:FC Internazionale Milano. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 16:59, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Derby d'Italia[edit]

Should be placed at Derby of Italy as per Commons:language policy Flickrworker (talk) 12:20, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Dixie State College of Utah[edit]

Should be renamed to category:Dixie State University because the college is now renamed to Dixie State University. Arbor to SJ (talk) 05:29, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Homeless[edit]

I'd be interested in the thoughts of others, but it seems to me that this category should be renamed Category:Homeless people (along with subcats). While the term "homeless" is generally understood among English speakers as referring to people, from an organizational and ease-of-categorization perspective (on Commons, a multilingual project), using the term "homeless people" I think would help clarify the intent of this category (focus on the people) and help distinguish it from other existing and potential subcategories of Category:Homelessness . Just a thought. Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:27, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


  • No objections after a couple of weeks, so this seems uncontroversial. I have implemented the change. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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Category:Gardens and parks in in Sanok[edit]

New cat. "Gardens and parks in Sanok" HaB >talk< 06:37, 11 August 2013 (UTC)


Moved to Category:Gardens and parks in Sanok. --rimshottalk 22:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Hairy males bodies[edit]

Empty. Can probably get deleted. Leyo 22:45, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 06:35, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Gustav Weinreich[edit]

Empty. Can probably get deleted. Leyo 22:46, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Tagged for speedy deletion. JesseW (talk) 03:29, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 06:35, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Monuments in Jeollabuk-do[edit]

I have created category Category:Monuments and memorials in Jeollabuk-do while I didn't know above category already existed. I didn't know it because the category didn't in Category:Monuments and memorials in South Korea by province. Anyway, all the category names about monuments or memorials have names like "Monuments and memorials in ...". So, if one of them should be deleted, I think Category:Monuments in Jeollabuk-do should be deleted. It contains nothing now. --Leedkmn (talk) 09:52, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I have placed this category for speedy deletion. Thanks. --Leedkmn (talk) 08:08, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your clean-up work. Although categories such as these were generally moved to the "monuments and memorials" format two or three years ago, there are a number still around that have not yet been renamed. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:38, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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Category:Kříž v ulici Na Dědině[edit]

delete, wrong and empty category RomanM82 (talk) 18:37, 21 August 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Sangen[edit]

Empty category, previously a self-categorized category. zhuyifei1999 (talk) 16:08, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Die Category wurde irrtümlich von mir angelegt, gemeint war "Sange", Sangen kann entfernt werden.--Hawiech (talk) 16:42, 23 August 2013 (UTC)Fetter Text

Deleted, accidental creation. --rimshottalk 18:32, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Prathap K. Pothan[edit]

Empty Category Kiran Gopi (Talk to me..) 05:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Müßig Gang (Popfest 2013)[edit]

As per Commons:Language policy the category title should be in English. Should be at Mussig Gang at Popfest 2013 Flickrworker (talk) 21:05, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

This is the name of a band. Could you point me to the policy which states that such names should be translated? --Tsui (talk) 21:08, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I've linked it. But for you I will quote it. "Category names should generally be in English. See Commons:Categories for the exact policy. See also the proposal of Naming categories" For this category I don't see how it is exempt from the rule. Flickrworker (talk) 21:15, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm not stupid. And I am active and contrubuting here since the beginning of Commons, so I am quite familiar with the rules and policies.
The examples in Commons:Categories#Category_names are about general terms like "Tools", "Artists" (as a group of people, not for the single artists or bands), "Lakes", "Paintings" and so on, respectively general themes or activities such as "History", "Weather", "Music" etc. But nowhere the rules and policies state, that names should be translated. Nobody would search for this band as "Mussig Gang" - which is nothing, neither German nor English. If you want to translate it, it would be something like "Idle Gang" respectively "Idleness" (= German: "Müßiggang"), because the name is a wordplay and can be read in two ways, which would be completely lost when trying to translate it. --Tsui (talk) 21:39, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Just for the record: The same discussion is going on at Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/08/Category:Müßig Gang and Flickrworker suggested to continue it there. --Tsui (talk) 22:31, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Closed, to allow discussion to continue in one place. --rimshottalk 22:41, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Müßig Gang[edit]

Should be placed at Mussig Gang as per Commons:Language policy Flickrworker (talk) 21:07, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

This is the name of a band. Could you point me to the policy which states that such names should be translated? --Tsui (talk) 21:09, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I've linked it. But for you I will quote it. "Category names should generally be in English. See Commons:Categories for the exact policy. See also the proposal of Naming categories" For this category I don't see how it is exempt from the rule.Flickrworker (talk) 21:16, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm not stupid. And I am active and contrubuting here since the beginning of Commons, so I am quite familiar with the rules and policies.
The examples in Commons:Categories#Category_names are about general terms like "Tools", "Artists" (as a group of people, not for the single artists or bands), "Lakes", "Paintings" and so on, respectively general themes or activities such as "History", "Weather", "Music" etc. But nowhere the rules and policies state, that names should be translated. Nobody would search for this band as "Mussig Gang" - which is nothing, neither German nor English. If you want to translate it, it would be something like "Idle Gang" respectively "Idleness" (German: "Müßiggang"), because the name is a wordplay and can be read in two ways, which would be completely lost when trying to translate it. --Tsui (talk) 21:38, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm just going to post in one place and I think you should do the same. It is not written as it is meant to be assumed by "all categories should be in English". Please don't be selective in what you quote. Line above what you quoted "Category names should generally be in English." So what's so hard with the interpretation and assumption? It clearly means all categories should be in English no matter what the subject is. Flickrworker (talk) 22:17, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, but to me that interpretation is absurd.
A suggestion: You could try to move Category:Die Toten Hosen (en:Die Toten Hosen) to "The Dead Trousers", or Die Fantastischen Vier (en:Die Fantastischen Vier) to "The Phantastic Four". Or why not move Category:Johann Sebastian Bach to "John Sebastian Ditch"?
These are names, not things, concepts, activities or similar. --Tsui (talk) 22:29, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Please don't use examples from English Wikipedia. That place is being destroyed. It's not the English wiki anymore. My interpretation is not silly but a logical implementation of the policy. Flickrworker (talk) 10:50, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
I didn't say you suggestion for changing the name is "silly", I wrote your interpretation seems absurd to me.
So you do not like en.wikipedia (anymore). Alright. So what? I suggested, you should (first) try to rename some categories of better known bands and people if you want to enforce your interpretation of the policy. Let's see what others think about it.
One thing that the policy does not make clear anyway is, if "Category names should generally be in English" is meant as a recommendation for translation or transcription. Your suggestion above ("Mussig Gang") would be some kind of a transcription. A translation would, as mentioned above, be "idle gang/idleness". The proposal for Commons:Naming categories which is mentioned and recommended for further reading at Commons:Language policy clearly states: Names in Latin-derived alphabets are used in original form, including diacritics and additional letter forms.
Finally, another suggestion: Why don't you try to change Category:Motörhead to "Motorhead"? --Tsui (talk) 14:23, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Seriously you're starting to annoy me with this goading of go and move this category. What you stated was a proposal and is therefore unfortunately not a policy so one can not implement as such. I say unfortunate as it has a good line in it about little known people/towns/bands what not, being at it's local language if one deemed it to relatively unknown in the global scheme. But it's a proposal so we have to go with what is policy. Flickrworker (talk) 16:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Annoying is what this whole discussion is to me. Seriously is another good keyword: What about "Motörhead"? Seriously. --Tsui (talk) 16:32, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Not done, as per User:Tsui's arguments. I am still not quite sure that this was ever a serious request. --rimshottalk 12:15, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Dinizulu[edit]

May be deleted, both files were recategorised to ʽCategory:Dinuzulu kaCetshwayo’ André Kritzinger (talk) 12:11, 10 August 2013 (UTC) ːPlease cancel this request - both files already un-recategorised. André Kritzinger (talk) 12:45, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


Kept, request withdrawn. --rimshottalk 06:19, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Dinuzulu kaCetshwayo[edit]

Please delete, files moved back to the original ʽCategory:Dinizulu’ André Kritzinger (talk) 12:28, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


Redirected to Category:Dinizulu, as this is a valid name, too. --rimshottalk 06:22, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:XYZ line in Nules Bunker 2[edit]

There's a category named XYZ Line in Nules Bunker 2. That's the correct name and this category should be eliminated. B25es (talk) 14:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

The main category is Category:XYZ line, shouldn't the same capitalization be used everywhere? If Line is correct, the other categories need to be renamed as well. --rimshottalk 07:35, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
The front is known as Línea XYZ or línea XYZ. Main category is line but other bunkers in the Nules group are spelt Line. I agree that all should be either line or Line. On one hand, the first category opened here was spelt line so the others should follow suit. But it would requiere changing three categories: Category:XYZ Line in Nules Bunker 2, Category:XYZ Line in Nules Bunker 1 and Category:XYZ Line in Nules Bunker 4. I have to say that the inconsistent use of capitals is all my fault. B25es (talk) 14:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
I've been researching the bunkers in Nules and they do not belong to the XYZ Line. The front was stablished there from July 8th 1938 to the end of the war. The bunkers were built by Francoist troops. That's why they have machine-gun nests facing South and entrances from the North. Well, now I have to rewrite many descriptions on bunkers 1, 2 and 4; I must rename all files, changing the caption XYZ line into Civil War. I will also create a category with an appropiate name. So, all categories relating XYZ line and Nules will soon be empty. B25es (talk) 17:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted, including the sibling and parent categories, as empty. --rimshottalk 12:21, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Natasa Zoric[edit]

Claimed as obsolete. Empty anyway. Leyo 21:46, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


Redirected to Category:Nataša Zorić, where the contents have apparently been moved. --rimshottalk 12:25, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Chinese stroke order in red pictures[edit]

Empty. Can probably get deleted. Leyo 22:42, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted, empty and seems rather pointless, too. --rimshottalk 22:28, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Kankakee Community College[edit]

Not a category page. Leyo 22:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted, as per nom. --rimshottalk 22:26, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Scintillator Light Output to Neutrons[edit]

Empty. Can probably get deleted. Leyo 22:51, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted, empty and bad capitalization. --rimshottalk 06:28, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Léonard Limousin[edit]

I suppose Limosin has been misspelled as Limousin. Category:Léonard Limosin exists. Jwh (talk) 16:11, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

The creator template says Léonard Limousin, and so does the English Wikipedia. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 17:18, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
To be precise, enWP says "Leonard Limousin (or Limosin) ". I guess both names are correct and would suggest using the older category. It also matches French Wikipedia. I have taken the freedom of amending the creator template with an additional alternate name. This category need not be deleted, it can be kept as a redirect. --rimshottalk 18:20, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Fully agree, WPde uses Limosin as well. Encyclopædia Britannica uses Limosin also spelled Limousin, Getty Léonard Limosin. --Jwh (talk) 07:36, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Redirected to Category:Léonard Limosin. --rimshottalk 12:31, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:NZASM 32 Tonner[edit]

May be deleted. Contents already move to Category:NZASM 32 Tonner (0-4-2T) André Kritzinger (talk) 17:33, 18 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 12:28, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:NZASM 14 Tonner[edit]

May be deleted. All contents already moved to Category:NZASM 14 Tonner (0-4-0T) André Kritzinger (talk) 17:41, 18 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 12:28, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Lake Superior islands[edit]

For consistency with the parent cat, should this be Category:Islands of Lake Superior? Geo Swan (talk) 14:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes. Unless we are dealing with a proper name, we generally try to keep category names in the subject + modifier format (e.g. Buildings in Calgary, Architecture of Canada, not Calgary buildings, Canadian architecture). All of the entries in Category:Islands by lake have the same issue, but most of the content in the parent Category:Categories by lake seems okay. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:03, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Soup line and :Category:Bread lines[edit]

Is there some way we could merge these categories? They are essentially the same thing. I suspect (unless someone has better information) that "bread line" and "soup line" are largely expressions, and that either bread or soup, or likely both (or even other food), could be served at the end of any of these queues. In any event, I think Commons users are better served by having all this media in one place. Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, no input, so I merged the two into Category:Bread lines, but leaving Category:Soup line as a redirect. I chose bread line simply because it didn't need to be renamed (Category:Soup line isn't pluralized like it is supposed to be), Category:Bread lines already had a subcat for bread lines in Lisbon, and the English Wikipedia soup kitchen article refers to bread lines, but not soup lines. Obviously, these changes are without prejudice if someone wants to reconsider this in the future and there is consensus for that change. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:35, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
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Category:Unidentified location of Piers[edit]

Unused, unneeded redirect. Bad grammar an capitalization makes it not useful as a likely alternate wording. It keeps showing up in HotCat, too, and that's annoying and may cause miscategorization. -- Tuválkin 19:33, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Delete, not useful to keep as a redirect as per nomination. By the way, shouldn't HotCat ignore redirected categories? --rimshottalk 23:15, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted, as per nom. --rimshottalk 12:34, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Fraserberg[edit]

The category was relocated to its correct name, Category:Fraserburg. Delete this one. Underlying lk (talk) 17:04, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted, bad name. --rimshottalk 22:55, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Bernard II, Margrave of Baden-Baden[edit]

and Category:Christopher I, Margrave of Baden-Baden

A better name would be "Category:..., Margrave of Baden". The term "Margrave of Baden-Baden" is used only for the period of 1535–1771 when the Margraviate was divided. Passerose (talk) 13:00, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

No objections after a couple of months, so this seems to be uncontroversal. I will now start to implemented the changes. --Passerose (talk) 09:02, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Several subcategories will also be affected. List of affected categories:
--Passerose (talk) 11:35, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
✓ Done: Category:Bernard II, Margrave of Baden-Baden is redirected, the others are moved. Links in sister wikis are adapted. --Passerose (talk) 18:25, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
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Category:Rosengarten im Grüttpark[edit]

Namensergänzung: Der Name dieser Kat. sollte wg. der "Category:Rose gardens in Germany" "Rosengarten im Grüttpark Lörrach" lauten. Dietrich (talk) 22:46, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

klingt sinnvoll. Anna reg (talk) 16:44, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Wer kann die Kategorie verschieben? -- Dietrich (talk) 20:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Ich habe alle Dateien in die neue Katgeorie "Rosengarten im Grüttpark Lörrach" einsortiert. Damit kann "Rosengarten im Grüttpark" nun gelöscht werden. -- Dietrich (talk) 08:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Mir so lang wie breit, ob die Kategorie Englisch oder Deutsch geschrieben wird. Hier kann man es eh niemandem recht machen, so meine Erfahrung; egal wie man es macht. Da es nur einen Grüttpark gibt, halte ich den Zusatz für überflüssig. Aber auch das ist mir wumpe. --Wladyslaw (talk) 20:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
✓ Done. Obviously solved. --Passerose (talk) 18:33, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
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Category:Anolis luteogularis in Prague Zoo[edit]

Empty. Can probably get deleted (see category page/history). Leyo 22:40, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

In this category, the following images: File:Anolis luteogularis, ZOO Praha 273.jpg and File:Anolis žlutohrdlý 0148.jpg. In the Prague Zoo is at this animal indicates that it is the Anolis luteogularis. According to the User:Jamaican college grad terms of Anolis baracoae. Therefore changed the categorization. I can not really judge whether rightly so. Jedudědek (talk) 07:05, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
✓ Done. Has been deleted 3 weeks ago. Still empty cat. Cfd closed. --Passerose (talk) 18:37, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
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Category:Pt:Wikivoyage banners[edit]

Empty. Can probably get deleted (see category page/history). Leyo 22:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Probably redundant, go ahead and delete, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 05:53, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted: Just an empty cat. --JuTa 22:40, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Samsun Hippodrome[edit]

Empty. Can probably get deleted (see category page/history). Leyo 22:55, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted: Just an empty category. --JuTa 21:39, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

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Category:The Kings School, Goa[edit]

Empty, seems a misplaced, abandoned article Havang(nl) (talk) 07:35, 25 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted: Just an empty category. --JuTa 21:09, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Voormalige Synagoge (Maarssen)[edit]

Empty and blank category before robot tagging. zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted: Just an empty catgory. --JuTa 22:20, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Night in Ludwigshafen[edit]

move to Category:Night in Ludwigshafen am Rhein for systematic reasons PanchoS (talk) 12:26, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done. Has been moved 3 months ago. Cfd closed. --Passerose (talk) 18:43, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
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Category:Monuments and Memorials in Bietigheim-Bissingen[edit]

Delete: superseded by Category:Monuments and memorials in Bietigheim-Bissingen PanchoS (talk) 13:39, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted: empty and superseded. --JuTa 22:46, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Bahnstrecke Weilheim-Schongau[edit]

Name contains a typo – please delete it. Correct category is: Bahnstrecke Weilheim–Schongau (em dash instead of hyphen) Karl432 (talk) 17:38, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Streams in Slovenia[edit]

Empty category: duplicate to Category:Creeks in Slovenia (per talk). Eleassar (t/p) 13:45, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Transformed to a redirect category. --Eleassar (t/p) 15:46, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Redirected to Category:Creeks in Slovenia. --rimshottalk 17:02, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Estátua da Praça Luís de Camões[edit]

All content moved to Category:Monumento a Luís de Camões, a better developped and named equivalent. -- Tuválkin 06:03, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted, now empty. --rimshottalk 17:06, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Hipped roofs in Great Britain[edit]

This looks like a non-standard category so I suggest its deletion. The standard category is "United Kingdom" with sub-categories for the UK's four constituent nations. Motacilla (talk) 17:09, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support --Passerose (talk) 18:29, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support Agreed. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:27, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Redirected to Category:Hipped roofs in the United Kingdom. --rimshottalk 17:09, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Fractals (choice)[edit]

Can someone explain why this is called "Fractals (choice)", what choice means in this context? if it doesnt have a specific meaning, it should be upmerged to fractals Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I've been wondering the same thing. I would say that we should merge the category. I've been unable to work out what choice means. Zellfaze (talk) 13:57, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
It's pretty obvious that this is supposed to be a (subjective) selection of fractals. For such selections, we have gallery pages, like Fractal. --rimshottalk 17:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Redirected to Fractal. Most images had additional, more specific categories, all other images have been moved to Category:Fractal. --rimshottalk 17:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Tenuta Presidenziale di Castelporziano[edit]

Needs to be moved to Presidential Estate of Castelporziano as per Commons:Language policy Flickrworker (talk) 11:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

  • "Castelporziano Presidential Estate" may be better (I'm not sure). --Jaqen (talk) 06:32, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Fixed: renamed into Castelporziano Presidential residence -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:59, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Travel maps of Lausanne[edit]

No files in it. Globe-trotter (talk) 14:21, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted, still empty after several months. --rimshottalk 17:32, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Banff, Aberdeenshire[edit]

Reasons for discussion request: Both Category:Banff, Aberdeenshire and Category:Banff, Scotland exist, for the same place. It is in Scotland; it is in the present unitary authority of Aberdeenshire, but it was the county town of the old shire of Banffshire. At that time a different area formed Aberdeenshire! en.wiki currently uses Banff, Aberdeenshire. Commons could follow that or use the less controversial Banff, Scotland. I favour the latter. --Finavon (talk) 18:04, 12 August 2013 (UTC) Thanks, The images have been moved to Category:Banff, Banffshire. Those that were of Category:Macduff, Aberdeenshire were moved there. Scotire (talk) 20:44, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


Redirected to Category:Banff, Scotland. --rimshottalk 17:36, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Hispanic[edit]

Shall the category be moved as requested (Category:Hispanic people in the United States) or are there any objections? I'd like some input before moving this cat. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 22:56, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Agree, we need "Hispanic and Latino American" here to make things more findable. Djembayz (talk) 11:18, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose Hispanic also refers to Hispanic culture, art, ie art not specific to a particular ethnic group of the hispanic world, but more pan-hispanic (esp in western us). I suggest move to (or make a new sub cat of ) Category:Hispanic culture, with sub cats for the people, etc. I would like more points of view, considering that Hispanic/Latino is debated enough to justify a WP article.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:00, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
I invited en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Latinos to join this discussion. That should give some insight. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 03:29, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Moved and deleted by Marcus Cyron: TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 12:28, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Delia Matache[edit]

Empty category; should be deleted Psychonaut (talk) 07:46, 25 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted by Jcb: TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 12:26, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Kevin Randall[edit]

Empty category. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:52, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted by Jcb TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 18:05, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Barry Conlon[edit]

Empty category. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted by Jcb TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 18:05, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Swedish magazine logos[edit]

move to Category:Magazine logos of Sweden for systematic reasons PanchoS (talk) 15:04, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Good idea. More standardised naming.--Paracel63 (talk) 15:31, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category:National Bus[edit]

This category should sit directly under Category:Buses in Melbourne. The company has operated in one form or another from 1993 to 2013, when all it's routes were subsumed by Transdev Melbourne, it was purchased by Ventura in 2004, but operated independently. As it operated independently (either self operating, under the British parent, or under Ventura), and no longer is part of Ventura group it should be listed under Category:Buses in Melbourne so people not privvy the the complicate bus situation in Melbourne can logically find images. There is currently a hatnote in Ventura stating Ventura's previous ownership of National Bus. Liamdavies (talk) 14:29, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

  • All but one photograph, are during Ventura's ownership (2004-2013). National Bus is now a defunct Ventura owned company, after it had lost the Government bus route contact to Transdev. Bidgee (talk) 14:39, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

This issue is now resolved. No further action is required. Liamdavies (talk) 09:35, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


Closed, apparently done. --rimshottalk 18:45, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Miltown Malbay[edit]

Old styl road signs near Mullagh, County Clare, Ireland.jpg

The name of this category is incorrect. The real name is Milltown Malbay, with two L's. That part is derived from a number of watermills located in the townland Poulawillin (Poll a' Mhuillinn|pool of the mill) once the name of the town The Banner (talk) 15:50, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

The name is spelled with one letter l here. Probably the user who created the category used this source. I'm afraid to correct it we need a bot, moderator or both  Klaas|Z4␟V:  10:11, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Clare County Council, the local authority, uses Milltown Malbay: Official opening Lus na Sí, Milltown Malbay. The Banner (talk) 12:07, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
While the heading says Milltown, the text says Miltown. Looks more like a typo to me than a conscious choice. Also, there are 302 results for 'Miltown Malbay' on that page vs. 86 for 'Milltown Malbay'. The church parish is Miltown Malbay Parish. The city limits sign says Miltown Malbay, as does the road sign we have on Commons. Given these, I would tend to keep the current name. --rimshottalk 18:04, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Nice but at the entrance of the town all signs reads Milltown Malbay. The Banner (talk) 19:14, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Even the census records say Miltown. Was it renamed at some point? Are both spellings official? I find such pervasive misspellings on physical signs as well as official records quite odd. --rimshottalk 20:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
There is no official spelling but Milltown Malbay is now on the signs. But with a place name derived from the corn mills, the double l seems to be the correct one. The Banner (talk) 20:50, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Where I live it's quite unimaginable not to have an official spelling for a town name, but if that is the case, the category name doesn't really matter. The Ordnance Survey has Milltown, though, and there seem to be no objections but mine. I will move the category to Category:Milltown Malbay. The old name should be kept as a redirect. --rimshottalk 18:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Milltown Malbay. The redirect should be kept. --rimshottalk 18:43, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Louvre RF 1774[edit]

Please read Commons:Naming categories: "Names of Commons categories should be optimized for readers over editors; and for a general audience over specialists." Coyau (talk) 17:43, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Coyau! Please make a suggestion for a better naming of all these categories. --Passerose (talk) 18:34, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Category:The Inspiration of the Poet by Nicolas Poussin. --Coyau (talk) 13:59, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
See in general for Louvre cats: User talk:Zolo#Louvre; my naming suggestion:Category:The Inspiration of the Poet by Nicolas Poussin in the Louvre RF 1774 or Category:The Inspiration of the Poet by Nicolas Poussin in the Louvre (RF 1774)
or Category:Mona Lisa by Leonardo da Vinci (INV 779) instead of Category:Louvre INV 779
The unusual category naming with inventory numbers like hieroglyphs is even not practical with regard within the Louvre categories. But it is even worse if a Louvre category goes within an upper category of theme like Category:Madonnas by Giovanni Bellini or Category:Painted portraits of bearded men. Category:People with dogs in art--Oursana (talk) 22:32, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

see Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/08 for CfD on 20 cats of Louvre and this beautiful cat Category:Christ and the Woman Taken in Adultery by Niccolò Possino (Louvre INV 7282)--Oursana (talk) 02:05, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

moved to Category:The Inspiration of the Poet by Nicolas Poussin (Louvre RF 1774). --Coyau (talk) 15:23, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Deleted: INeverCry 21:17, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:4711[edit]

It does not fit in with the rest of the subcategories under ʽCategory:Integers’, where there is already a ʽCategoryː4711 (number)’ André Kritzinger (talk) 18:13, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted: INeverCry 21:16, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Sure (Cable & Wireless)[edit]

Replaced in use by Category:Sure (company) as it was no longer appropriate to include Cable & Wireless in the title as that company no longer owns Sure. Cloudbound (talk) 19:10, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted: INeverCry 21:17, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Jesus at the tomb in the Tyrol[edit]

It is the same Category as; Category:Jesus at the tomb in Tyrol Schofför (talk) 17:17, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted: INeverCry 21:15, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:CNE Government Building (Canadian National Exhibition)[edit]

mistake category Nick Moreau (talk) 18:53, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


Deleted: INeverCry 21:14, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Tudor style architecture in Canada[edit]

Also:

The category tree had gotten slightly muddled here; I've fixed it so that the sole entry is now correctly placed in Category:Tudor Revival architecture in Quebec, and located that appropriately as well. The above four are now empty and redundant. (Also incorrect in the latter two cases; there is no actual Elizabethan architecture in Canada.) — Scott talk 20:29, 29 August 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Horizontal inscribed boards in the Forbidden City[edit]

Change this category to "Category:Inscribed boards".

Reason: There are not only "Horizontal" boards, a large number of exterior boards are VERTTICAL, the creator of this category is completely ignorant about Chinese language Gisling (talk) 10:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


Kept, I have moved the vertical texts to Category:Vertical inscribed boards in the Forbidden City. You could have just have done that yourself. --rimshottalk 06:13, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Slinovce[edit]

Empty category, can be re-created when and if there are any appropriate images. Eleassar (t/p) 11:44, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Generally, categories of existing localities which are properly named, categorized, described and equiped by correct interwikis (and possibly linked from Wikidata) should not be deleted (even if they are empty at the moment) because such deletion and discussions are counterproductive. Empty categories should be deleted only in cases that they are clearly useless, redundant or incorrect. Promising and systematically expectable and desirable categories which should be filled prospectively should be kept. --ŠJů (talk) 12:28, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted by User:Yann, still empty after months. --rimshottalk 06:01, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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Category:3-limit tuning and intervals[edit]

The moves of the files in the category is not possible without removing the transclusion of Template:Interval or removing the parameter limit, which will cause data loss. Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:37, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

The moves to where of what files in which category? Hyacinth (talk) 16:33, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
All files to Category:Pythagorean tuning and intervals (redirect target) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 16:45, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Another way is to edit the template to support this. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 16:51, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Done, the template has apparently been updated. --rimshottalk 06:18, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Current players of Stade Français[edit]

Senseless as every category "Former" or "Current" "players of ...." . Commons has not a "Now" and a "Before". Not to mention that such categories should require a high maintenance (at least yearly). No use and no sense to keep them. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 12:30, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Discussion closed because the main category was renamed. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:06, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Former players of Stade Français[edit]

Senseless as every category “Former” or “Current players of…”.
Commons has not a “Now” and a “Before”. Not to mention that such categories should require a high maintenance (at least yearly). No use and no sense in keeping them. --SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 12:57, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Closed anyway, the main category has been moved to a more appropriate name -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Eat the Ball[edit]

unnecessary small category. image has been given better categories now Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:08, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

This bread brand is quickly growing and massivly advertising in Austrian sports, I'm pretty sure we'll get more pictures soon... --AleXXw 06:14, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator Yeah, this is apparently an international brand. I dont like categories with only one image, but that appears to be acceptable here, so i withdraw my nom unless this small cat is against policy.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:52, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Kept, not empty. --rimshottalk 22:46, 21 May 2014 (UTC)