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Category:Book market[edit]

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The beginning: Category talk:Book market.

First of all, there is a direct loop between Category:Book market and Category:Literature.

Second, the categorization of literature based on the assumption that literature is, first of all, what is sold at the book market(?), doesn’t seem to me a very good idea.

User:Olaf Simons, the creator of the category page, put Category:Books, Category:Fiction and Category:Reading in it. I think if Books was a parent of Book market, or even when it is its child, such categorization is redunant.

I guess there are legitimate uses of the category, but at least about half of what it is now looks wrong to me.

--AVRS (talk) 20:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the category is supposed to be about the book market, that is, the commercial trade of books as such. This does not seem very useful, as it will contain almost all book-related categories. I would not mind a category "book markets", that does what I originally thought this category does, namely show markets for (used) books. --rimshottalk 06:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
First thing: This is a field of studies - book history, you can take courses at universities, secondly I began with it to cover statistics etc. like these. --Olaf Simons (talk) 08:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I suggest Category:Book market as the parent category of Category:Literature, Category:Publishing do not need a subcategory of that. But it is a sector of Trading. I will recat Category:Book market for this points/items. --Diwas (talk) 12:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
A lot of Literature (Drama, oral traditions) is not part of the book market. The book market is rather a commercial enterprise among other markets like car manufacturing, banking... --Olaf Simons (talk) 13:52, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Do you suggest Category:Literature should be the parent category of Category:Book market but not a subcategory of Category:Book market? It can be a good way. On the other hand, are all elements of the book market literature? --Diwas (talk) 15:34, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
"are all elements of the book market literature?" - that depends on your concept of literature. The book market is everything from fiction to sciences and religion. I'd say literature is part of the market. Yet literature is not entirely a sub-category, only part of the literary production is paper based, printed in books, and that part (basically fiction) is sold on the book market. --Olaf Simons (talk) 18:27, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
One way would be to put a see also to both category pages and uncat Category:Literature from Category:Book market. On the other hand, Literature as a knowledge sector is a object or subject of the study field book market and all literature is a potential object of the market sector book market. Are E-books and hear books parts of the book market? --Diwas (talk) 22:47, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
"Are E-books and hear books parts of the book market?" - good question. I suppose the book traders hope these things will remain their business. For the moment the publishing houses have the rights on most texts, and the publishing business is to a good extent a business of rights. --Olaf Simons (talk) 16:26, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Closing thread. The loop was resolved by Diwas on 2009 October 19 by removing Category:Literature as parent category from Category:Book market. -- User:Docu at 15:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)