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Category:Das Cabinet des Dr. Caligari[edit]

I suspect these are still under copyright in Germany because while Robert Wiene died 1938, Erich Pommer died 1966 and Hans Janowitz died 1954, so earliest PD-date should be 2036. Exceptions might be posters that were made in the United States using work wholly not derived from the film creators' work. --84user (talk) 09:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Question: every person in the crew must be dead before a film is in the public domain? The director is Robert Wiene (d. 1938). We didn't publish the screeplay text, so the writer Erich Pommer is not part of the question (anyway I dubt he retained the rights for the screenplay, it was not usual at that time). --Marcok (talk) 09:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Not every person in the crew. But the three main creators: director, cinematographer and screenplay. I read that this was the "custom" on Commons for German films, but now I cannot find where I read it. I am asking this on Commons talk:Licensing. 84user (talk) 14:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Carl Lindberg has kindly replied with this:

Article 65(2) of the German copyright law says: In the case of cinematographic works and works which are produced in a similar way to cinematographic works, copyright shall expire 70 years after the death of the longest-living if the following persons: the principal director, the author of the screenplay, the author of the dialogues, the composer of the music composed for the cinematographic work in question. Carl Lindberg (talk) 16:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

This means that these images are still copyright in Germany. (Cameraman Willy Hameister died in 1938, but screenwriter Hans Janowitz died in 1954, so copyright would last until 2024) 84user (talk) 07:09, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


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