Commons:Deletion requests/2009/07/09

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Contents 1 July 9 1.1 File:Coat_of_arms_of_Ladonia.jpg 1.2 File:NBDrayton.jpg 1.3 File:Pahoehoe lava.jpg 1.4 File:Pclinux_3d_cube.jpg 1.5 File:Puppy301screenshot.png 1.6 File:Blue_&_green_of_Taiwan.png 1.7 File:Przyklad.jpg 1.8 File:Magnetyczny.jpg 1.9 Image:Greenland coat of arms.svg 1.9.1 Info about the picture 1.9.2 Danish version: 1.10 Image:Greenland_coat_of_arms.png

[edit] July 9

[edit] File:Coat_of_arms_of_Ladonia.jpg

• File:Coat of arms of Ladonia.png (edit · last · + · history · watch · unwatch · check usage · find cats · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel)

No where on the website does it say that the logo is in the public domain. J Milburn (talk) 17:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

 Keep the coat of arms of a "nation" is not controlled by copyright, by definition it's public property. if "ladonia" claims to be a nation, & not simply a work of fiction, its coat of arms is public; no nation "copyrights" their coat of arms, tho they may have regulations for useage; those regulations would only be legally binding inside that country". unless ladonia files a complaint, asserting copyright or declaring war, i think it's safe to keep :P Lx 121 (talk) 06:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

 Delete The argument you just raised has no bearing on whether or not the image should be kept or deleted. From COM:PS: "arguments that amount to “we can get away with it”, such as the following, run counter to Commons’ aims". Tabercil (talk) 01:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

 Delete Work by the artist Lars Vilks. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:39, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] File:NBDrayton.jpg

Looks like a professional promo photo. I've left a msg on user's Wikipedia talk page, to get required info on true author, and copyright status. Unless/until that happens, this should be deleted. Even if user reps band, they might not rep photographer. Rob (talk) 05:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

 Keep Why would Michael Hrizuk not be true author? Hires with exif data, I see no problems. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 06:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

• Keep When I nominated, the author (Michael Hrizuk) wasn't listed. It was added after. So, this nomination can be withdrawn. Note, the uploader is NOT the author, and ideally there should be an OTRS. --Rob (talk) 12:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

 Delete No "ideally" about it. An OTRS ticket is required. Werewombat (talk) 14:01, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

 Keep i'd like to see an otrs too, but the uploader is a good-faith noob; would somebody please walk them thru the proper procedures? & i don't mean just sending automated messages... 06:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lx 121 (talk • contribs) 02:32, July 10, 2009 (UTC)

 Delete Per COM:PS: "The precautionary principle is that where there is significant doubt about the freedom of a particular file it should be deleted." We do have this discontinuity between the uploader's ID and the copyright holder's ID, which makes the situation clear in my book. Tabercil (talk) 01:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

The following text was left on my talk page, and separately emailed to me, by the uploader. --Rob (talk) 03:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi! I wasn't quite sure how to fill some of the things out when I started, but I think I might've updated it correctly. The photographer was Michael Hrizuk and we do have a signed agreement that the rights have been fully turned over to me, so I can distribute as I like. I hope that clears it up.

This is my first time using Wikipedia, so I'm still trying to wrap my head around it all. It can be a little confusing. The 'Niki Barr' page really needed to be updated because a lot of the information was really out-dated and didn't portray the artist accurately. I'm updating new press, as well, and all will be credited.

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikibarrband (talk • contribs) (UTC)

Is the above sufficient? Should I forward that to OTRS, or do we need an email from the photographer? --Rob (talk) 03:57, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Something needs to go to OTRS. Something that constitutes solid proof that the image can be hosted. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 14:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

•  Delete until an OTRS tag is applied. Wknight94 ^talk 04:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

The existence of EXIF-data does not automatically mean that the uploader must be the author. The description that was stated by the uploader gives us "Niki Barr Press Photo" and obviously, the uploader is not the photographer. If there is no permission brought by the copyright owner, the image must be deleted. --High Contrast (talk) 19:56, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] File:Pahoehoe lava.jpg

possible copyright violation --GeoWriter (talk) 11:59, 9 July 2009 (UTC).

Details of why I suggest this image should be considered for deletion (copied from File talk:Pahoehoe lava.jpg) :

This image was uploaded by User:Liftarn in 2006 from a National Science Foundation webpage http://www.nsf.gov/news/mmg/media/images/P2200054_h.jpg . It can also be viewed with copyright information at http://www.nsf.gov/news/mmg/mmg_disp.cfm?med_id=57184&from=img

where the photo is credited as

• "Credit: Photo by Tom Pfeiffer / www.decadevolcano.net/VolcanoDiscovery.com".

The image usage details, from that web page are:

• "General Restrictions:

Images and other media in the National Science Foundation Multimedia Gallery are available for use in print and electronic material by NSF employees, members of the media, university staff, teachers and the general public. All media in the gallery are intended for personal, educational and nonprofit/non-commercial use only.

Images credited to the National Science Foundation, a federal agency, are in the public domain. The images were created by employees of the United States Government as part of their official duties or prepared by contractors as "works for hire" for NSF. You may freely use NSF-credited images and, at your discretion, credit NSF with a "Courtesy: National Science Foundation" notation. Additional information about general usage can be found in "Conditions".

Certain media carry additional restrictions placed on them by the owners and this information is listed under the "Special Restrictions" section on this page."

The "Conditions" section states:

"Unless otherwise stated, images and other media in the National Science Foundation Multimedia Gallery are available for use in print and electronic material by NSF employees, members of the media, university staff, teachers and the general public. All media in the gallery are intended for personal, educational and nonprofit/non-commercial use only. Certain media carry additional restrictions placed on them by the owners and this information is listed under the Special Restrictions section on the media page. In cases where a restriction states that the potential user must contact the owner prior to using the media, it is the responsibility of the potential user to follow through with this and obtain permission prior to using the media. Also, users of the gallery are required by law to honor all copyright restrictions indicated herein. These restrictions must be adhered to.

Any media used in the gallery must be credited as stated on the information screen that accompanies the media. It is a condition of the gallery that anyone using media from the gallery must include the credit information that accompanies the media.

Granting the right to use media from the NSF Multimedia Gallery does not explicitly or implicitly convey NSF's endorsement of the site or document in which the media is used or the entity using it.

Most of the media in the gallery have been donated by external sources for inclusion in the gallery. The owners have donated their media with the understanding that whoever uses the media will adhere to all restrictions placed upon the media regarding its use and will include the proper credit information when using the media. NSF does not "police" usage of the gallery and therefore must assume that users are following the guidelines stated here."

The "Special Restrictions" section states:

"This image is copyright. The owner of the image, Tom Pfeiffer, has granted permission to the National Science Foundation to use the image free of charge, for nonprofit/non-commercial use only. Any other use of this image (including, for example, newspapers, magazines, books or brochures) is strictly prohibited without the explicit permission from Tom Pfeiffer, who can be reached via the Web sites http://www.volcanodiscovery.com."

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Also, the Wikimedia Commons permission tag of the image states :

• "This image has been released into the public domain by its author, User:Liftarn. This applies worldwide.

In some countries this may not be legally possible; if so: User:Liftarn grants anyone the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law."

There is no evidence that User:Liftarn is the author of this image and no evidence that permission has been granted by the author to release the image into the public domain.

The image is credited to Tom Pfeiffer who appears not to be an NSF employee and that suggests the image has not been made public domain by NSF.

--GeoWriter (talk) 12:24, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

For the record I would like to say that I am not the author of the picture, nor have I ever claimed to be. I only transfered the picture to Commons from en Wikipedia. // Liftarn (talk)

•  Delete: obvious copyviolation. Pfeiffer is not an employee of NSF and his website (http://www.decadevolcano.net/photos/photo_gallery.htm) does not state these photos are free for any use. Jappalang (talk) 10:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
•  Delete Very nice photo, but no evidence that Tom Pfeiffer has released this on a free license; Kingstonjr seems to have a history. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 22:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] File:Pclinux_3d_cube.jpg

Are Yahoo logo, sky background, video or picture on the left application and graphics inside the cube all de minimis items? Dereckson (talk) 18:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] File:Puppy301screenshot.png

Should the mpPaint picture be consired de minimis? Dereckson (talk) 19:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

 Keep Uploader not notified. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 12:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] File:Blue_&_green_of_Taiwan.png

This file has been tagged for speedy deletion with the following explanation, I think a regular DR is more suitable:

" The copyright is not owned by the uploader of the image as this image is closely affiliated to the logo of the DPP and is a symbol of the DPP and therefore cannot be considered PD and is automatically considered non-free, unless a) the DPP has released it into PD or B) ROC laws states that flags and symbols of this nature are PD. Previous Images Deleted Under this rationale Image:DPP.png Image:Democratic Progressive Party of Taiwan flag.svg Image:Flag of the Democratic Progressive Party (Taiwan).svg Image:Dpp.jpg Image:Taiwan2008ElectionPresidentResults.svg File:20071119160713 DPP.png File:20071119160713 DPP.gif  "

Eusebius (talk) 11:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Two files has been added to the list: File:Minjindang.png and File:Flag of Democratic Progressive Party.svg --Eusebius (talk) 06:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• Since image is a derivative of the DPP and KMT flags, use the "ROC-government" public domain template if possible. The KMT flag should be ineligible for copyright, as per ROC copyright law; there should be a template lying around somewhere. Then, change details; Shizhao cannot claim ownership, as per w:en:Originality. If all else fails, can also be copied to EN Wiki and ZH Wiki prior to deletion, where a different licence tag may be used. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs 12:38, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] File:Przyklad.jpg

Uploader does not mention which copyright it has. Image is from a commercial site Wiese Fordelelemente.Probably copyright violation. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 22:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I've aprooval from Wiese Foerderelemente GmbH to using this photo in Wikipedia.

Hi Kik81, please follow the Commons:OTRS-procedure to transfer this approval to Wikimedia. Thank you. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 08:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] File:Magnetyczny.jpg

Uploader does not mention which copyright it has. Image is from a commercial site Wiese Fordelelemente.Probably copyright violation. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 22:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I've aprooval from Wiese Foerderelemente GmbH to using this photo in Wikipedia. Kik81.

Hi Kik81, please follow the Commons:OTRS-procedure to transfer this approval to Wikimedia. Thank you. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 08:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

 Delete Smaller version is here. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 22:10, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Greenland_coat_of_arms.png

Was nominated as:" Copyrighted work. Danish coats of arms are not exempt from copyright, and this drawing is less than 20 years old." And deleted as a copyvio. Multichill (talk) 16:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

 Comment I reuploaded the file and saw above deletion request which suggested it should be safe, afterwards I saw that it had been speedied. I see several issues still to be resolved: Arne List speaks of "courtesy of", has this been cleared yet? Is the design original enough to be copyrighted etc. NielsF ^{? (en, nl, fr, it)} 00:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

 Keep This is heavily dependent on older representations, and does not pass the threshold of originality. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 19:48, 18 August 2009 (UTC)