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[edit] July 1

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[edit] Muenchen1860

redundant to TSV 1860 München, which is the official name --Ahellwig 15:35, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete not the official name. Could be speedable. --ALE! 16:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Blank and redirect, even easier. NielsF 21:53, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I deleted it. The name of the page was just plainly wrong. No need for a redirect. --::Slomox:: >< 16:20, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Lithospermum

Reason: wrong identification. My own uploads.

TeunSpaans 19:55, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted. Please use {{badname}} and indicate the properly named file in the future. NielsF 21:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] image:HNlogo.gif

(has been tagged since May 24, but never listed) This is not a flag, but a logo, and is copyrighted as such. --Circeus 01:05, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete as per nomination --ALE! 22:47, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. Copyrighted logo. -Samulili 20:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Tito Rodriguez.jpg

Uploaded by User:Mattes who claim that this photo is public domain as long as it is not used for personal gain and only for educational purposes. Thuresson 13:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete That is not what I read. Anyway, on en.wikipedia.org the image is tagged as undetermined copyright. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tito_Rodriguez.JPG . Therefore I vote delete. --ALE! 15:38, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
See Image talk:Tito Rodriguez.jpg. Thuresson 23:46, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, but the law cited in the license "template" states something differnt in IMO. --ALE! 21:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Unless someone can prove that this image was PD, delete. The Spanish text on the image talk page comes from here, and says that (a) their web site may contain copyrighted works of third parties, and furthermore they claim copyright on all their original web contents. Please note that according to the Compendium of Office Practices II, section 206.02(d) of the U.S. Copyright Office, works of the government of Puerto Rico are not U.S. governmental works and do not fall under 17 USC 105. Lupo 12:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Costume from Konavle near Dubrovnik, Croatia.jpg

stolen from: http://www.croatianemb.ca/images/girl_konavle.jpg --Decius 22:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete. Uploader has on Nov 12, 2005 uploaded a large number of scans from brochures of the Croat National Tourist Office. These brochures were labelled as "gratis" and credited several photographers for their images. Nowehere did they say it was PD, and it isn't PD-self for sure. Although the particular source given above is not the immediate image source (it's too small), it is clear to me that the version we have was also scanned from such a brochure. The Croatian Embassy has other images, evidently from the tourist office; see e.g. Image:Lavender fields, Island of Hvar, Croatia.JPG, which exists at the Croation embassy in Canada as http://www.croatianemb.ca/images/hvar_tour.jpg: the file name clearly indicates that this comes from the tourist office. Lupo 06:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Paddy --ALE! 08:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Souillac-blason.gif

REASON (the author is not the one i asked permission :()

Don't be so cryptic. Could you explain a bit more. --::Slomox:: >< 11:29, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
This makes sense, he obtained 'permission' for the image, but later discovered that the person he asked was not the copyright holder. This is not uncommon, but it's uncommon that we catch it before the copyright holder complains. --Gmaxwell 16:11, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
But whom did he ask? And who is the copyright holder? And why is Image:Ecusson souillac.jpg OK, but this not? --::Slomox:: >< 16:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
It's all lies, they are not the authors. They use a vector drawing package to copy a template. But copying doesn't make you being an author; in fact, copyright prohibits that. But CoAs are often not protected by copyright, but by other rights.--Rtc 09:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:HMS Commonwealth HS.jpg

Copyritgh status for images from this site are sketchy at best, see the disclaimer. --Circeus 00:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems unlikely that he is the copyright holder of these images, he merely scanned them. See where he says "It is source of photos that are BELIEVED to be in the public domain, so they can be used by anyone, for any purpose, without obtaining permission". Although we can't tell if the image is actually public domain, so perhaps we should still delete. --Gmaxwell 16:13, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
It is highly probable this image (and other images regarding british naval ships of that time) had been made by Royal Navy sailors so {{PD-BritishGov}} should be used. --Denniss 20:28, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Without further information, the probability of "made by Royal Navy sailors" is 0.5 which is far away from being enough. Note: I couldn't find anything about "HMS Commonwealth" at IWM.--Wiggum 10:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
The photograph could not possibly have been taken after 1916, as the vessel sunk then. If it was an official photograph (as seems highly likely - at the time, photography equipement would not have been available to sailors to use in thier own time whilst aboard ship), then the Crown Copyright expired at the very latest in 1966, and probably in 1955. If it was a personal image, but published within roughly a decade of being taken, which is certainly the next most likely status, the copyright will have expired (image published before 1923). If it was not published, then the copyright will (have) expire(d) 70 years after the death of the photographer (possibly, but not necessarily, in the past), or 120 years after creation (in the future - 2025 or possibly 2036) if photographer remains unknown. There are also fun issues if it was ever published in the US. As such, we can sit on it for three decades and then use it. Or, possibly, find out the actual status of the image. :-) James F. (talk) 19:01, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
There's a much better reproduction of that image on Phil Curme's web site, and yeat another version is here. I've asked Phil Curme whether he could tell me more about this picture, such as where he got it from or whether he knows when it was published or who took it. Lupo 07:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
According to HMS Commonwealth, she did not sink in 1916 but was sold for scrap in 1921. Anyway, the image was taken in 1912 and comes from a postcard available at the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich, UK. Phil was unclear about whether that was an old postcard (or a facsimile of one), or a new postcard showing an image for the NMMs collection. I have not found any 1912 image in the NMM catalogue of negatives. I think there is reason to believe that it was indeed an old postcard, given the existence of this version... if so, it is reasonable to assume that it was published between 1912 and 1918. As such, the image would be {{PD-US}} (pre-1923), unless you insist on the stricter 1909 date (see below). In the UK, I think it would be out of copyright (author unknown, photograph created before June 1, 1957: copyrighted until 70 years after creation or 70 after publication, if published within 70 years since creation). Lupo 08:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Got an e-mail from the NMM today; they state that the image came from the collection of Dr. Oscar Parkes, some of which is now held at the IWM. This Mr. Parkes is probably the author of several books on British ships, see e.g. ISBN 0-850-52604-3 or ISBN 1-557-50075-4, at one time also editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and I bet he was also the painter of this picture... The NMM doesn't know the photographer's identity, but acknowledges having reprinted the image as a postcard. See also [1] for some additional trivia on the ship, or see its listing in Jane's Fighting Ships 1919. BTW, it appears that Jane's Fighting Ships 1919 is still copyrighted... can they really do this?? Unfortunately, I still don't know more about this photograph, and in particular not if it was published as an old postcard. Lupo 15:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted - No conclusive evidence of freedom of image. Cary "Bastique" Bass parler voir 15:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Catal Hüyük Restauration 2.JPG

Forgot to rotate it; uploaded it well (Image:Catal Hüyük Restauration B).--Mathae 09:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted --JeremyA 16:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Goose, Phrygia.JPG

The same problem like above.--Mathae 10:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted --JeremyA 16:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Taxodium distichum

Over-categorisation; duplicates existing Taxodium distichum page - MPF 09:18, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:Fb78 --ALE! 15:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:P7020062.JPG

Requires that author be notified of use, contrary to Commons:Licensing --bjh21 00:13, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, license against commons policy. --Tomia 15:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --gildemax 17:55, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 13:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:E 022 3A.jpg

Requires that author be notified of use, contrary to Commons:Licensing --bjh21 00:10, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, license against commons policy. --Tomia 15:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Against policy --ALE! 14:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted--Shizhao 12:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Cross Pattern.jpg

Just some pixels, I can't see what's the use of this for any Wikimedia project at all. -- Andre Engels 01:00, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

From the summary, it's intended as a computer desktop (presumably tiled). I set it on my computer and it does look reasonably cool, although I can't read anything. :) Also can't see any Wikimedia use though. pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:24, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted (out of the scope of the Commons project) --ALE! 13:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Lazykat.JPG

Copyright information is missing and it belongs in the text (not "... knows the source") Mattes 21:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Just delete this thing. The image was tagged no source on 16 October 2005 and then an IP added that stupid source. Besides, it is only used on User pages on en and de.wikipedia. --ALE! 22:53, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --gildemax 17:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! 10:19, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kurukshetra.jpg

Possible copyvio, as incorrect license given. The manuscript might be 18th century, but the work of art as it is, is obviously modern Adobe photoshop days. The uploader has also provided the source. --202.164.136.210 04:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand your complaint. As far as I know, the manuscript included the art. --Gmaxwell 06:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I dont see how it could be, considering the manuscript is some sort of leaf like pupyrus written around or even before the time of Christ. But nonetheless, the liscence given is incorrect. The copyright of the manuscript might have expired. However, the copyright of the photograph of the manuscript (which cerrtainly isnt over 60 years old), hasnt expired. --202.164.139.88 12:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I sincerely doubt that any of the computer files in category:PD Art are more than 60 or even 70 years old. However, whoever scanned or photographed them haven't added anything substantial to the image, and therefore cannot claim copyright. The manuscript with the artwork in question is estimated to be from the 18th century, and is therefore not quite as old as you think. -- Ranveig 13:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Kept. 2D for US. -Samulili 20:19, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Springfield Interchange on I-95.jpg

The source says "Copyright 2000-2004 Virginia Department of Transportation" ([2]). Kjetil_r 10:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


  • Deleted, copyvio. -Samulili 20:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Images uploaded by user:Tarokun1005

The following images all seem to have been sourced from websites and there is no evidence of right to release under a commons license. All were previously uploaded to en.wikipedia with fairuse rationale.

William Avery 14:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

image:Alekos EDHN.jpg

image:Alekos_Panagoulis_Palazzo_Medici.jpg

image:Alekos_panagoulis_Nov_68.jpg - User claims this one is his own work.

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete -- unless correct licence information can be found. JeremyA 16:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Some comments have been put on my English Wikipedia talk page. How quickly one gets déjà lu around here. William Avery 21:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete -- Copyrighted images. ~Pyb 11:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted--Shizhao 14:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:800px-Blick uber den Rio Douro auf Porto.jpg

Photographer only allows use in Wikipedia. Thuresson 23:44, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I think at least that some further inquiry should be made before deleting, because You have my full consent to use the photos for the Wikipedia project. and I'm happy to share these photos with the world. to me sound quite positive.. The first upload of this image (on de:| was done in 2004 when there probably wasn't a completely clear procedure. So until original uploader has had time to sort this out, keep this image, although this version should be replaced with the original hi-res image from de:. NielsF 00:54, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Speedy keep and add {{ConfirmationOTRS}} for ticket #2006070510014176. See de:Bild:Blick über den Rio Douro auf Porto.jpg. Lupo 12:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

kept --ALE! 07:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:DameEdnaPoster.jpg

Copyrighted Image of Dame Edna. --Steschke 13:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Should be moved to Wikipedia under fair use. — Erin (talk) 09:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete clearly a derivative work of a copyrighted work and therefore a copyvio itself. --ALE! 15:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

deleted' --Raymond Disc. 05:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:AMD Athlon 64FX.jpg

There is a debate about the licence. I believe the licence is free for website and publication"Pictures are free for use in publications and websites on condition that they are accurately labeled. There are no copyright restrictions on use. When downloading pictures , you are agreeing to the above condition." [3]. Before uploading more images from the AMD website, I want to be sure of the licence. --~Pyb 11:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

That's an AMD press image. Your citation missed some essential parts: Low res version for use in webpages and Hi res version for use in publications. This is a website here and it has the Hi res version thus braking the agreement. Also the AMD site does not mention derivative works or event third party (commercial) use. See also usage guidelines here. These image should fall under the fair use regulation but nothing really freely usable.
The same problem with Image:AMD Opteron.jpg and Image:AMD 64X2 Dual-Core.jpg. --Denniss 12:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep (Sorry Denniss I forgot this issue, should have commented earlier).
I would like to draw your attention to the text of the website which goes:
This page includes both AMD product imagery and logos. The listed pictures come in two formats:
  1. Low-resolution pictures (for use in websites)
  2. High resolution pictures (for use in print publications)
Pictures are free for use in publications and websites on condition that they are accurately labeled. There are no copyright restrictions on use.
Now, as I interpret it, the distinction of website-image and printing-image has nothing to do with copyrights, it is just a suggestion from the nice people of AMD who realizes that website developers need not to download a 3.5 MB image when they need only a 50KB thumbnail. / Fred Chess 23:29, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete press license. They should put a regular CC-whatever-they-want there, then we can keep. --Rtc 09:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep IMO 'No copyright restrictions on use' is quite clear. Morven 05:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep per Morven Jaranda wat's sup 21:55, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

kept--Shizhao 12:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:WikiPediaTan-0O7.png

Sorry,I Upload error Filename,proper is in here:Image:Wikipe-tan-in-seaside.png (My English Is Very Poor)陈少举 03:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


Speedy deleted as a unused misnamed duplicate --grmwnr (homewiki) 16:00, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Torso.JPG

i would be surprised if this photo has a "warranty of existence" --Brightster 14:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

"made with consent of the photographer"? Thuresson 14:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
The photograph shows a person run over by a train. This only as a warning to persons who think they will see the picture of the nice torso of a nude female or something like that. I don't think Commons should host images like that. I can't think of any use of this particular photo. Anyway there is no release notice, so Delete. --::Slomox:: >< 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete {{subst:nsd}}

Deleted. Ugly snuff photo, license doubtful (uploader is not photographer). --Fb78 09:51, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Erststimmen-saarbruecken2005.png

Neither in use nor will be used. Was proposition for de:wikinews article, I'm the uploader. --Thoken 17:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by uploader request --ALE! 20:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:BG comunità.png

I'm the uploader. The file neither in use nor will be used. --Hill 17:56, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! 20:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Adolf Hitler Bigger.jpg

Delete Inadequate licence information, presumably copyvio. Uploader has an offending / troll user name (TeleportingHitler) and should be banned. Wischmob 19:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

  • delete, as it has been deleted some time ago.--Wiggum 21:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Slomox --ALE! 15:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ppo.pdf

Outside of Commons:Project scope --JeremyA 00:04, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Christian Gonzalez Díaz Mírame en todos los Rostros.pdf

Outside of Commons:Project scope --JeremyA 01:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


both deleted --ALE! 15:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Italy coa.png

I uploaded this with the wrong filename to delete at en:. Now at Image:Italian coa.png. Craigy 02:23, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Use the {{badname}} tag for this purpose, please. Sanbec 08:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

will be handled elsewhere --ALE! 16:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Jet Ski.JPG

This image seems to violate copyright. It is not tagged with any license and seems to be a derivative of a work of Dru Blair. The uploaded version can also be found on several websites, such as this. --NEUROtiker 19:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I noticed this picture too and i agree to Neurotiker. Obviously the lower left corner of the pic has been edited, looks like a text notice or logo has been removed.--Wiggum 21:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Derivative work of http://www.drublair.com/productgroup.asp?0=203&1=&33=47 painted by Dru Blair. Therefore a copyvio. --ALE! 15:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted (Copyvio!) --ALE! 15:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Lucca 1.jpg, Image:Lucca 2.jpg, Image:Lucca 3.jpg, Image:Tanakayasuonantonakukurisutaru.JPG

Awfully poor quality. -Samulili 15:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete as per nomination --ALE! 06:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
  • uploader informed; it would be good if the person who tags an image with deletewould do so --gildemax 18:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete useless --jed 12:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 11:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Warsaw siege4.jpg

No author provided, the license is just an unproven claim.--Wiggum 21:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Was first published without author's name in Poland. Shaqspeare 11:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Poland is member of the EU -> 70 years pma. Besides, to prove that a) the picture is really anonymous und b) that it has actually been published first in Poland might be somehow difficult. ;-)
Not in this case. You cannot aply European law to it, it doesn't work backwards - anything published and not marked with ©-sign went into public domain. I don't have to prove anything - we should assume good faith of the uploader. And I didn't say it is anonymous - but it was published without any autorship comment and without ©. Shaqspeare 19:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
The author's copyright is independent from the existence of a (c). This picture is copyrighted throughout the European Union due to directives 93/98/EEC and 2001/29/EC which were implemented by Poland. Btw, the polish modernized copyright law of 1994 was retroactive as well as the EU law. Besides, the {{Copyrighted free use}} licensing causes this case to be much more bogus - if the author had released the picture into public domain, he most be known. This is obviously contrary to the "published without author's name" claim. Anyway, this picture cannot be PD.--Wiggum 23:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
But when one didn't put the ©-sign by the photo, we should assume he was willing to put this in PD. E.g. Polish postcards, press photos etc. were often marked "© CAF", "© PAP", "© TASS" etc. So the author had possibility not to put it in public domain. But he did. P.S. I changed the licence to {{PD-PRL}}, which applies here. Shaqspeare 11:39, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I can just repeat what i said: the moral rights are independent from a (c)-sign. And no, you can't assume that the author was willing to put the picture in the PD when the (c) is missing - the complete opposite applies: the author has to agree to the publication explicitly. I don't have a (c) on any of my private picture but i surely don't want to put them in the PD.--Wiggum 15:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
But AFAIK it is generally treated just the way I described in Poland and wasn't questioned by Polish law practice yet. By the way, it accords not to private pictures, only the pictures that were published. The ©-sign hadn't to be on the picture itself but e.g. beyond it or on the other side of the postcard etc. Shaqspeare 15:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
If it is practice in poland as you described, it would be a highly questionable practice. Anyway, the picture is protected in all countries - maybe except poland. So it is useless here. It think it's also very unlikely that this is a polish photographers picture as the template states. Imagine an iraqi would be able to took such a picture of US troops...--Wiggum 20:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
This discussion doesn't make a sence any more, I think. I agree with Shaqspeare, but I don't know the EU copyright law good enough. Maybe ask some authority? Warsaw Rising Museum? --MStankie 11:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Keep PD-Polish rationale (source and date) for this photo is given. Mentioning the author eigher by (c) or fot. clause meant copyright restriction, therefore author is unknown for most of photos with this license... A.J. 15:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

kept--Shizhao 12:10, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Uganda coa.png and Image:Uganda coa.gif

These are artist's impressions of the Coat of Arms of Uganda, and do not even remotely look like the real one. The proper image is at Image:Uganda Coat of Arms large.jpg. I believe it is better to have no image than to have a false one. --Ezeu 03:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Why do you think that the version you uploaded is "the real one"? Thuresson 12:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Because he took it from an official site and it is the version used by the authorities of Uganda. But I don't know whether Uganda has a law, that specifies the exact design of the coat of arms. Perhaps even the authorities use the more inaccurate version on Internet (representation of Ugandan government on the Internet is not very professional). And perhaps all versions are problematic cause of copyright? The coat of arms is from 1962, so it is not PD-old. --::Slomox:: >< 15:58, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I fail to see the difference between the two/three, apart from the fact that one is lighter, slightly larger, has a source and copyright information, the other is darker and the source link is a dead one. They are both representing the same thing and of course it's an artist's representation of the coat of arms because it was drawn by someone other than the artist who drew the original. The only one which should be deleted should be the .gif one which isn't good for rescaling on pages. Craigy 20:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, then I guess I'll have to draw a more correct image myself. Wouldnt like to see a distorted Coat of Arms of Uganda being spread around. --Ezeu 08:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep In heraldry, what matters is how the coat of arms has been described in the blazon. There is a blazon available at www.ugandahighcommission.co.ke and within the limits of the blazon there is considerable artistic license to create the coat of arms. WikiCommons already has two correct coat of arms (the png- and gif version) with an acceptable copyright license. Thuresson 15:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
You shouldn't teach others, when you for yourself don't know exactly ;-) What you linked is a description, not a blazon. And it is not correct, that only the blazon matters. Some coats of arms have also one specific official design. For example the coat of arms of Lower Saxony is only the symbol of the state Lower Saxony, if the horse is depicted in exactly that way. But I don't know, whether this is also true for Uganda. --::Slomox:: >< 14:12, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment reply: According to the heraldic rules, Thuresson is correct in that a coat of arms can be illustrated in different ways. But coat of arms are sometimes used as symbols independant of the heraldic rules.
Anyways, as long as the image matches the description, I see no reason why this image shouldn't be Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. / Fred Chess 13:34, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Vollschiff Preussen.jpg

Incorrect/missing licence. The picture is licenced by GFDL, but should be - if ever - licenced as PD-old. Tho photographer is unknown, the date stated as "before 1910". That's not sufficient. The photographer has to be dead for seventy years. --Zinnmann 08:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

The text on the picture says that it's a photo of the Preussen when it ran out New York. Since the Preussen travelled from NYC to Yokohama in 1908, the picture is not old enough :-(--Wiggum 17:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Uploaded stamp image over questionable image. Cary "Bastique" Bass parler voir 15:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Delta Force during Operation Just Cause.jpg

the website doesnt state that it is a work of the United States federal Government, no hint where it is taken from --Schlendrian 09:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

new situation: a User of de.wiki stated that the picture was Formerly available at DOD'S official server till change Delta' status of classification (now higher). There are no official Delta-images available anymore. How to handle that? --Schlendrian 13:40, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
The version we have is evidently scanned from a magazine; witness the fold running vertically through the middle of the image. The publicly accessible images at the DVIC are generally sized 640 pixels wide and are original photos that do not have such artefacts. Remains the question why the uploader didn't use the corresponding DOD image then, if it was once available... Note that civilian press also took pictures during that military operation. Lupo 08:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Cause the picture is evidentely public domain (217.83.35.61 14:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC))
and what is the evidence? --ALE! 14:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

A IP keeps deleting the Deletion request, and still states the pictures was also available at osd.dodmedia.mil. I dont see evidences for this, the pictures pretty obviously is a mag-scan, please delete --Schlendrian 11:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The de.wiki image was uploaded in March this year, I don't think the classifcation increase alluded to would have occurred in the past few months. Besides its an obvious mag-scan...--Nilfanion 09:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

The first Upload of the picture was in the en Wiki with Licence PD-USGov. --88.73.195.94 10:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Which was still this year, is there any source to the claim that DFs classification was changed recently? Besides, "en.wiki uploaded it as PD so it must be OK" is bad logic,--Nilfanion 23:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Deleted - No verifiable source Cary "Bastique" Bass parler voir 17:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Janus moon.jpg, Image:Venus Galileo.jpg

Nominated for deletion because (or similar) "Although this image comes originally from NASA sadly a person that post processed this image (the webmaster of solarviews.com) Calvin J. Hamilton claims own copyright on this image, see http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Janus (all images on NASA pages with such a sepia color are from Calvin J. Hamilton). So I fear that it has to be deleted. I have also created a free alternative out of the raw voyager image and will upload it the next time. Arnomane 12:46, 23 January 2006 (UTC)" -Samulili 15:38, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Venus image; taken from Astronomy Picture of the Day. Unsure about status of Janus image, the text on the page is copyrighted, not clear on status of the image.--Nilfanion 10:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC) deleted -- These versions are not free Cary "Bastique" Bass parler voir 20:45, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:NYC subway riders with their newspapers.jpg

The original source is http://www.travisruse.com/archives/2005/11/f_train_manhatt_2.php (via en.wikipedia). There is no evidence that the photographer has given permission for the licence used. The photographers website states: "All text and images, unless otherwise noted, are subject to US and international copyright laws and are the property of Travis Ruse. If you'd like to use one of my photographs on a personal website, or for any other non-commercial purpose, please ask first. If you have a commercial interest in any of my images, please contact me to discuss licensing and fees." As we require that commercial use be allowed I think that this image needs deleted unless the photographer marks it as an exception to the copyright notice on his website. --JeremyA 15:30, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

on this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NYC_subway_riders_with_their_newspapers.jpg, this image is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike License v. 2.5. That's why I have uploaded it here. DeansFA 08:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I left a message for the editor who originally uploaded it to en.wikipedia as there is no transcript of the email permission anywhere that I can find. --JeremyA 23:52, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Any news? --ALE! 09:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I overwrote the image with a red cross. Maybe that gives us some attention from the en user(s). --ALE! ¿…? 12:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I just saw, that I will not get a reaction as the en Wikipedia is using a local duplicate. Therefore I will delete the image now. --ALE! ¿…? 12:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 12:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Image:Hunter.png

I'm the author and uploader of this photo. I uploaded .jpg version instead of .png, so this version is useless. C41n 13:02, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. Please use {{badname|Image:good name.xxx}} or {{duplicate|Image:good name.xxx}} next time. NielsF 13:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Oraliens.jpg

Coypvio of a tv program [4] CyrilB 22:01, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:WarX --ALE! 08:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Port Havre 2.jpg

Duplicate of Image:Le Havre-Portiques.jpg. Captain Scarlet 23:14, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep High quality version uploaded by the original author. Replace the other, low quality, image. --Denniss 01:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Kept and a little bit reworked. Duplicate deleted. --Raymond Disc. 06:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Inselsberg-Adlersberg-Beerberg-Eisenberg-Finsterberg-Hundskopf.jpg

Has been replaced --Elop 18:52, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete very bad quality, but the replacement has also a bad quality! could you upload a file with better resolution and a low level of Jpeg compression? CyrilB 22:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I could upload up to 2000px, but it wouldn't really improve it. When the weather and the light direction will be better, I will try to take the photo again. But this might take some time. Usually the conditions are even worse than on the photo.
I have already seen that these two photos are candidates for speed deletion. --Elop 08:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Paddy --ALE! 12:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Simmersberg.jpg

Has been replaced --Elop 18:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Bad quality, and not used anywhere at the moment. CyrilB 22:12, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Paddy --ALE! 12:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Portrait of Henri Matisse 1933 May 20.jpg, Category:PD Van Vechten, Template:PD-Van Vechten

  • w:Carl Van Vechten died in 1966, so his photos are not in the public domain in the US or elsewhere, no matter what the Library of Congress believes.
  • Usage restrictions: "the Carl Van Vechten estate has asked that use of Van Vechten's photographs "preserve the integrity" of his work, i.e, that photographs not be colorized or cropped, and that proper credit is given to the photographer." - Commons does not allow usage restrictions for image modifications like colorizing or cropping. --Fb78 09:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Here's the whole quote from Rights and reproductions of Carl van Vechten's photographs: Per the instrument of gift, "for a period of 20 years from the date of this Instrument [1966], none of the photographs contained in said collection may be sold, reproduced, published or given away in any form whatsoever except with my [Saul Mauriber, Photographic Executor for Van Vechten] express permission in writing." This restriction expired in 1986. In 1998 the Library's Publishing Office was contacted by Bruce Kellner, Successor Trustee for the Van Vechten estate, who disputes Mr. Mauriber's authority in executing the Instrument of Gift. Upon review of the relevant materials, the Library continues to believe that the photographs are in the public domain. However, patrons are advised that Mr. Kellner has expressed his concern that use of Van Vechten's photographs "preserve the integrity" of his work, i.e, that photographs not be colorized or cropped, and that proper credit is given to the photographer. Privacy and publicity rights may apply. (Emphasis added by Lupo.) The LoC has reviewed the case and continues to believe that the works are in the public domain. Period. That some successor trustee "expresses concerns" is irrelevant for us and not a legal restriction. If the U.S. Library of Congress says that some U.S. works were PD that's good enough for me to consider them {{PD-US}}. I certainly won't second-guess the experts at the Library of Congress. (Besides, van Vechten died 1964. Not that it mattered.) Lupo 09:56, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
    A different question is of course whether we want to allow images that are "{{PD-US}} only" here at the commons... (I'm not arguing this either way.) Lupo 08:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep' I trust Lupo reasoning Jaranda wat's sup 01:22, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

kept--Shizhao 12:06, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Wikipedia-Flag.png

Badly drawn, utterly useless... Computerjoe 18:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete useless Jaranda wat's sup 01:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --jed 12:13, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! 10:25, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:City of Korcula, Island of Korcula, Croatia.jpg

this picture ist stolen, see: http://dalmatia.250x.com/pejzaz.htm --Decius 18:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete, although the given URL not necessarily is the source. The image comes in all likelihood from a brochure of the Croat national tourist office. See #Image:Costume from Konavle near Dubrovnik, Croatia.jpg above: the uploader had uploaded a number of images scanned from such brochures. Lupo 10:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Michelle Bachelet official photo.jpg

The source provided does allow for free use of its photographs. However, modification of them is not permitted, meaning they aren't quite free enough to be on Commons --GeeJo (t)(c) • 07:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC) 07:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Where does it say that these types of images can't be used in Commons. And if they can't be used in Commons, can they be used in regular Wikipedia? Cantus 00:12, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
From Commons:Licensing#Acceptable licenses: "Publication of derivative work must be allowed". The english Wikipedia also considers such restrictions to make an image non-free. However, if no free alternative can be found you might be able to upload under a claim of fair use (be sure to include a detailed fair use rationale for every article that the image is used in or the image will be deleted). --JeremyA 03:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Deleted. -- Infrogmation 05:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Portiques.jpg

Duplicate of Image:Le Havre-Portiques.jpg. Captain Scarlet 23:14, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment Which one of the three is then being kept ? There two still present. Captain Scarlet 10:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
tag {{deleted duplicate}}--Shizhao 11:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Carte Chiyoda-ku en.png

Has been renamed to Image:Map Chiyoda-ku en.png. --Akanemoto 00:35, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Danish coins

Category:Danish coins is perfectly fit for this application. And the text has been copied to each individual coin image page (or a description is already available). --Chochopk 03:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Article is fine, no need to delete. The same with the norwegian and south african money article. If you don't like articles then ignore them. --Denniss 10:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Norwegian coins

Category:Norwegian coins is perfectly fit for this application. And the text has been copied to each individual coin image page (or a description is already available). --Chochopk 03:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep nothing wrong with having galleries here as well as categories is there? they are organised better, rather than just by whatever the filename happens to be --Astrokey44 13:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rand (currency)

Category:South African money is perfectly fit for this application. And the text has been copied to each individual coin image page (or a description is already available). --Chochopk 04:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep as above --Astrokey44 13:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. Thanks for cleaning up. --Fb78 18:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:VanderWaals forze attrattive.jpg

redundant to Image:VanderWaals forze attrattive.png.--Shizhao 06:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Pound Sterling

This article has nothing, and is linked from nothing


Deleted --JeremyA 03:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Thomasnasenbohren.JPG

do we really need to become a private webhoster? --Schlendrian 20:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, useless. Don't forget to warn the uploader when you nominate a file. CyrilB 20:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, blödsinn --GeorgHH 23:54, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, quite funny pictures, but unfortunately images of minors are restricted legally. Longbow4u 23:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete as nonsense. -- King of Hearts 23:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted --JeremyA 03:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Markusnasenbohren.jpg

as per above --Schlendrian 20:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, children prank CyrilB 20:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, blödsinn --GeorgHH 23:54, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, quite funny pictures, but unfortunately images of minors are restricted legally. Longbow4u 23:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete as nonsense. -- King of Hearts 23:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted --JeremyA 03:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ashton West Ham.jpg

Source site on flickr states "C All rights reserved". I could not find the CC-license. Longbow4u 23:50, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted --JeremyA 01:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:IMG 0526.JPG

Such a low quality that it's hardly useful. (If you agree that deeltion requests for images with low quality might need another section/page, please comment on the discussion page.) -Samulili 16:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete might only be useful for Commons:Quality images guidelines in the "out of focus" section CyrilB 20:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete out of focus, not used --ALE! 14:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted--Shizhao 12:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Methane.png

Has been replaced by a better SVG image: Image:Methanespacefillingmodel.svg. King of Hearts 23:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep, delete the .svg instead maybe? Better is alway a subjective statement if both images aren't equal to the naked eye, in this case they aren't; in this case I think the .png is a (lot) better. I like the fact that you are willing to convert images to vector versions, but just use {{SupersededSVG}} instead of putting pngs up for deletion... NielsF 02:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Please don't use some tracing program to convert png's to svg, quality will always be worse than original. Draw images using svg primitives (lines, circles etc) instead. --Tomia 15:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Deletion decisions should be based on quality rather than on file format. The svg-version is clearly of much lesser quality - Quistnix 15:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep for now. The PNG is quite ugly and low quality, but this SVG is worse. A better SVG needs to be created and uploaded over the existing one. I would do it myself but I'm no good with 3D. — Erin (talk) 08:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

kept--Shizhao 12:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:DRKB.Streckennetz.jpg

replaced by Image:DRKB.Streckennetz.png Hostrod 14:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I put a superseded tag, but I also noticed that the size of the jpg version is twice that of the png one, so I'm not sure the png version has a better quality... ideal would be a svgCyrilB 20:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I think the png is good enough for being used in wikipedia articles with its maximum resolution of 1656 x 2328px, so it should not be necessary to build another image. I just made a beginner's mistake creating and uploading a jpg, and that's why I'd like the jpg to be deleted. Hostrod 14:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
You saved the PNG as a 24-bit file. This was unnecessary, as the 8-bit type supports up to 256 colors. (Your image contains only 28 colors.) By converting the image to the PNG-8 format and optimizing the compression via the PNGOUT program, I've reduced the size from 205 KB to 72 KB. —Lifeisunfair 14:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
There's only one thing left to say: Thank you! :o) Hostrod 16:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:BajaDream.jpg, Image:P9120019 Peggys Cove sea.jpg, and Image:File cont4518 lang0 1579.jpg

None of the three are PD. All of them have incorrect licensing, and looking at the links provided, it says nothing about them being PD. 68.46.61.88 01:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete all! Non of the stated sources provides any hint that the images are usabale under a free license. --ALE! 09:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ngc 6744.jpg

Very probably copyrighted, according the the copyright notice at [5]. The source site given for the image, http://salt.camk.edu.pl/firstlight/, is Polish. Can anyone who dan read Ploish check for a ploicy notice there? ---09:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Same problem for Image:47tuc salt.jpg Image:Ngc 6152.jpg, Image:Triffid nebula salt.jpg and Image:Lagoon nebula SALT.jpg. --Vesta 13:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep User:Polarianin, who uploaded the images, answered on my talk page: "Yes, the free license is granted on the polish site, where it is written that All photos placed on this site can be published without limitations (in polish: Wszystkie zdjęcia zamieszczone na tej stronie można publikować bez ograniczeń.)" --Vesta 15:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Gare de Denfert-Rochereau - Batiment voyageur.gif

Uploaded a poor version of the image, made redundant by a jpg version of the file: Image:Gare de Denfert-Rochereau - Batiment voyageur.jpg. Captain Scarlet 10:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted, please use the template {{duplicate}} next time. --ALE! 13:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Goleo in Berlin.JPG

urheberrechtlich geschützte Figur, Panoramafreiheit greift nicht 217.88.177.218 16:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. Photograph of copyrighted FIFA mascot --Fb78 18:14, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Carl Schmitt.jpg

i doubt that the uploader at en wp is the author or holds any rights, therefore he cannot publish it under the gfdl. Furthermore the picture is not old enough so that copyright would have expired. Thus this image is a copyright infringment and should be deleted. (we already had this discussion at de wp some time ago) --C.Löser 17:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. Fb78 18:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:010 Church.jpg

No discription, no license. --GeorgHH 17:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


deletion request replaced with a no-license-warning. --ALE! 21:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Several orphaned categories

The subcategories of the Camera type category are slowly being cleaned up and renamed with a consistent naming convention, which is "Taken with CameraManufacturer CameraModel". I have recently shuffled a few categories around to aid in this process, and as a result, the following categories are now empty, unreferenced and obsolete:

--Pomakis 18:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


all deleted --ALE! 20:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Rs lokacija.PNG

This map is incorect inappropriate, unusable and a irredentist provocation. The user who uploaded the image has been banned for 2 weeks for personal attacks and vandalism. The map shows Republika Srpska, a teritorial entity of Bosnia and Herzegovina as a state in Europe. It is inappropriate representation and a presedent (no other entity and even some more sovereign states are not represented in such way). This is clearly a provocation and a quick deletion is reccomended --Dado 18:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

The map is absolutely appropriate, noone is suggesting that Republika Srpska is independent, the first sentence in every wikipedia states that the Republic of Srpska is a teritorial entity of Bosnia and Herzegovina and therefore a part of it. It is not a provocation, Republika Srpska has a status unlike any other territory in the world, according to the Dayton agreement of 1995, and deletion is not needed for a map that shows where Republika Srpska is in Europe (which helps a lot, because not everyone knows where Bosnia and Herzegovina is). User:Dado has tried to show that if the user that sent the photo is banned, the photo must be false too, which is really funny (and I even sent the photo long before I was blocked for 2 weeks). I'd like to say that another photo showing the location of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina in Europe was not mentioned by this user, which shows his obsession with destroying what little international status Republika Srpska has. Bottom line - no one is claiming it's independent, no one is claiming it's a country, but it is a political entity unlike any in the world, and the map is absolutely appropriate. --Bormalagurski 23:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
User:Dado also broke the rules by not notifying the uploader (me) that he has proposed this for deletion. As the deletion template clearly states: When applying this tag please list it as well on Commons:Deletion requests and notify the uploader with {{subst:idw|Image:Rs lokacija.PNG}} ~~~~. --Bormalagurski 23:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I actually agree that the other version of the map showing the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina that you mentioned should be deleted as well if such map was uploaded on the commons. Wikipedia and for that matter Commons is not the place to glorify "international status Republika Srpska has" which is none anyway. The map is nothing more than a provocation and a ligthning rod for future conflicts. Finally how do you expect me to discuss this with you when you made perfectly clear to avoid contacts with you through a personal attack for which you were banned. [6]. --Dado 01:32, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Another attempt to denounce my arguments by pointing out that I did one thing wrong on English wiki. I agree that Wikipedia and Commons is not a place to glorify a status, but it isn't here to diminish it either. Saying that the international status of Republika Srpska is non existant only shows your destructive attitude towards the Dayton agreement, which clearly defines Republika Srpska as a separate entity, and NOT controlled by the majority of Bosnia - Bosnian Muslims. IT is not a "lightning rod for furure conflicts", noone is saying that Republika Srpska is independent or anything like that, you're making too much of a big deal over this. The map is usefull, but you keep on trolling, because of your own personal opinion, without the good of the Wikipedia community in your mind. I say good day to you, sir. --Bormalagurski 06:12, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep There are many similar maps, showing e.g. the location of Munich in Europe and nobody claims Munich is independent from Germany. Shaqspeare 12:20, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

kept. There is no problem with the image. It shows an existing entity. I have added 'part of Bosnia and Herzegovina' to the description, so nobody will consider it as an independent country. --::Slomox:: >< 12:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, good decision. --Bormalagurski 20:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ss4-ss5.gif

Copyvio: clearly says "© C.P. Vick"; it is not a work of the US federal government but a work of a senior fellow of globalsecurity.org, a private website. --Fastfission 00:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted, pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:HDTV displayed on notebook computer.jpg

Showing a screenshot of a movie without proper licence. greets, --Andreas -horn- Hornig 18:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Televisionscreen.JPG

Showing a screenshot of a movie without proper licence. greets, --Andreas -horn- Hornig 18:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! 22:59, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Coat of Arms of Magnitogorsk (Chelyabinsk oblast) coat of atms (1993).png

Copy of this image with incorrect name. --Panther 07:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


Duplicate, not used. Deleted. Please use {{duplicate}} instead of {{delete}} in such cases! Shaqspeare 09:15, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Opel-gt-vorne.jpg

Permission not clear, see User talk:Manerr. We need a written confirmation by Opel for a free licence. Image:Opel-antara.jpg, Image:Opel-corsa.jpg, Image:Opel-gt-hinten.jpg and Image:Opel-corsa-5tuerer.jpg are affected too. --Raymond Disc. 14:57, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

You can see more at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Manerr#Opel_Fotos and it is okay to delete, because Opel wants a licence which is not in the Wikipedia. --Manerr 20:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! 09:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] User:Dickbauch + User talk:Dickbauch

Please delete and block my account permanently. I´m out for good. ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 17:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Können/dürfen Benutzerkonten auf Commons gelöscht werden? Auf der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia wird das nicht getan. --ALE! 10:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Is it possible / allowed to delete user accounts on Commons. On the German Wikipedia this is not possible. --ALE! 10:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
AFAIK Lock on user's request is possible but not delete (unless it was a vandal-only account) --Denniss 11:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

blocked and protected --ALE! 09:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Morgengrauen.jpg

bad quality, not in use --GeorgHH 17:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh no, has Commons run out of disk space again? I'm so glad you're doing something about it! --Fb78 18:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Anyone have to do it...--GeorgHH 19:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I also see no use for it. So, why keep it? It shows an unspecified country road in southern Germany on a misty morning photographed from within in car with a mobile phone camera. delete --::Slomox:: >< 12:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Was soll der Trollantrag? Qualität ist kein Löschgrund, kann gut als Illustration des Bildrauschens genommen werden 217.88.156.78 12:50, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Translation: Why that troll request? Quality is no reason for deletion, the image could be well used to illustrate [digital] image noise. --ALE! 16:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Considering what the IP says, I vote Symbol keep vote.svg Keep --ALE! 16:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't call that useful. Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. - Andre Engels 02:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Bad quality image, Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. NielsF 02:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted--Shizhao 11:25, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Satellite1984.jpg and Image:FastWalkerleakedfile.jpg

Following through from a suggestion in the Wikipedia. None of these images provide a clear copyright status. They say they are copied from a website and are free to be used, but there is no indication on that website about their being free, nor does the image description give any other form of confirmation. --24.76.102.248 02:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


Absentee uploader who has not responded to previous queries regarding licensing. No sign of a legit licence after a fortnight up for deletion. Deleted as copyvio. — Erin (talk) 04:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:IMAG0055.JPG

The image/license is copyright are saved only wikipedia use --GeorgHH 16:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


Totally unfree. Deleted. — Erin (talk) 15:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Taepo-dong-2.jpg

Copyvio: clearly says "© C.P. Vick"; it is not a work of the US federal government but a work of a senior fellow of globalsecurity.org, a private website. --Fastfission 00:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete copyvio Jaranda wat's sup 01:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete ACK. Just tagged it again as copyvio in the hope that the CommonsTickers will unlink it. pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --Raymond Disc. 12:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Farben logo.jpg

logo, not PD --Shizhao 04:00, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Could it be {{PD-ineligible}}? I do not know much about this. (Stichwort: Unzureichende Schöpfungehöhe) --ALE! 12:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Graphical work. Shaqspeare 12:22, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Keep there is no thresold of originality, imho {{PD-ineligible}}.--Wiggum 19:20, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, the graphic designers work on such symbols really long. To create a good logo is a question of many days or weeks. And it is a well paid job. It would be rather applicable to say the "wikimedia commons"-logo has no thresold of originality. Shaqspeare 19:07, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
How long it takes or how much is paid for the logo doesn't matter. It's only a question of threshold of originality. I don't see that for two letters orbited by a black line. Ok, this point is disscusible, i know. :-)
A short story for free: I remember a recent inquiry on de-Wiki where someone told us that he would be paid for a picture from wikipedia. Funny, isn't it? ;-)--Wiggum 21:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
What I said was not just a funny story. I wanted you to imagine that the graphic design is not just what you think - you said the creator of that did kinda nothing, but to do that nothing is still an intelectual work. To put the two letters of the right typeface in the right way together and to find the right composition for that was IMO much harder than to compose the funny commons logo. Shaqspeare 22:07, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep {{PD-ineligible}} Shaqspeare does not understand what copyright is all about. It's exact the same old nonsense he tells us here as the typeright lobby repeats again and again. This stuff does not have and does not deserve copyright protection. What such mad claims always try to hide is the fact that there is a limited protection available under design patent law for these things, for up to around 20 years (depending on country) and if you pay for it properly. 70 years pma for such trivialities would really be outrageous—yet designers for some reason or another seem to be unable to accept this simple fact and arrogate for their three letters and four circles the same protection as a Picasso. No copyright for designs! --Rtc 05:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Clearly above the threshold of originality. Not one of us would have thought of the same creation in a million years if given just "IG Farben Konzern". -Samulili 07:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
That is total nonsense; you do not have any idea what threshold of originality means. Threshold of originality is entirely different for utilitarian things (designs) compared to non-utilitarian things (art). Go read what I wrote and [7] (section 'Design patents and copyrights'). There is limited design patent and trademark protection available for designs, but generally not copyright protection. Please get this simple fact and do not continue to repeat these incorrect design copyright lobby views again and again. --Rtc 14:22, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Interesting page. However, at the very top it says "The patent laws of the United States provide for the granting of design patents to any person who has invented any new, original, and ornamental design for an article of manufacture." What we are dealing with here is not an article of manufacture. Also, from Commons:Licensing: "Consequently any licence to use the material should apply in all jurisdictions relevant". I would think that in this case Germany is a relevant jurisdiction.
Finally, I would like to say that I regard myself to be a sensible person. If by bolding rude messages you're trying to imply that my skull might be too thick without a proper use of cluebat, you're not helping yourself in convinciong me over. -Samulili 15:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
If Germany is the jurisdiction, then things are clear: It's not protected by copyright. Please read de:Schöpfungshöhe. It has the nice example Laufendes Auge which was deemed by the german constitutional court as not protected. If Laufendes Auge is not protected by copyright, this logo is for sure not. Such logos are merely protected by trademark law (Markenrecht), and, sometimes, design patents (Geschmacksmuster). --Rtc 15:53, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
ACK --Historiograf 22:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
ACK ACK -- Stahlkocher 15:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

kept and tagged with {{Logo-Germany}} --ALE! 21:41, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Many things to delete

There are many files I would like to delete. They are all considered as not immediately useful to Commons. They are all in this category, and most of them are drawings : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:HV, but not all of the files (most of them, actually) need to be deleted. Niladmirari 01:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I think I will not tag them all in one shot, but the comment will be applicable to all the files that come in this category for the next days.

deleted all, except for the ogg files and some used files. --ALE! ¿…? 15:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:MG42.jpg

Image sourced from here. Website displays copyright notice at bottom, but it is not certain that they own the copyright. Image tagged as PD "common property," but definitely does not qualify for such. ArmadniGeneral 06:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Pagan symbols

Orphaned and superseded by either Pagan symbol male phallus.svg or Pagan symbol female chalice.svg. --Fibonacci 15:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 12:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Superseded. — Erin (talk) 11:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Deleted — Erin (talk) 11:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Albert Einstein.jpg

Image by Yousuf Karsh, which I had uploaded back in 2004. We've discussed this image several times back in 2005; it was kept because I wrongly argued that it was in the public domain because the Library and Archives Canada said so. I failed to notice that this applies to Canada only. The image was first published in Karsh's book Portraits of Greatness, University of Toronto Press, Toronto 1959, and Thomas Nelson & Sons, London, 1959, p. 68. (See [8].) Having been simultaneously published in both Canada and the UK and still under copyright in the UK, it is also copyrighted all over the EU, and, even if it should have never been published in the U.S., which is doubtful anyway, still copyrighted in the U.S. due to the copyright restoration of the Uruguay Rounds Agreement Act. Note that Karsh for years maintained two offices, one in Ottawa and one in New York, and was in general rather diligent about registering and renewing his copyrights with the U.S. Copyright Office. We had also been told by an anon IP that was later found to resolve to CameraPress in the UK that the image was copyrighted by CameraPress. CameraPress manages Karsh's copyrights in Europe. All evidence points to this image being copyrighted just about anywhere outside of Canada. Therefore, I'm asking to delete this image. (Note that a possible replacement image that is at least {{PD-US-not renewed}} exists at Image:Albert Einstein 1947.jpg.) Lupo 09:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Lupo's reasoning looks pretty sound to me. There is no indication that this thing is not copyrighted outside of Canada which IMO is a bit too limiting for being on Commons (if it is not public domain in at least the US it also is a problem in hosting it on US servers). So I ruefully (it is a nice photo) agree that it should be deleted. --Fastfission 03:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • delete ACK Lupo --Historiograf 00:31, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Lupo should have considered these things earlier. --Rtc 05:28, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment This is a featured image on english wikipedia. Shouldn't it be reuploaded there and other places which accept fair use/where the copyright has expired? -Aknorals 02:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes it could, if someone wants to do it. "Albert_Einstein.jpg is used on at least 447 pages in 85 projects". Ok I'll replace it with a red X and delete it without orphaning, in the way I described on the talk page (template_talk:Deletion requests). / Fred Chess 20:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted / Fred Chess 20:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Albert Einstein Swss Patent Office clerk 1905.jpg

This Image copyvio. from NASA's Astronomy Picture of the Day. Authors & editors: Robert Nemiroff (GMU) & Jerry Bonnell (USRA). see About image permissions. and Image:Einstein patentoffice.jpg Crop --Shizhao 18:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Who is the photographer? NASA is certainly not, so they have no rights to the picture. --Fb78 18:22, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Lucien Chavan (1868-1942), a friend of his when he lived in Berne. When was the image published? If pre-1923, it might be at least {{PD-US}}. If kept, there's a much larger version available at the Historical Museum of Berne. (The red text says that the images were cleared for use in a report on the museum; fo all other uses the permission from the archives listed with the images must be gotten. For our image here, the archive mentioned is the Einstein Archive in Jerusalem. It is unknown whether they really would hold the copyright.) I suggest asking at the first link I've given about the copyright status of this work; it's the web site of the Swiss Federal Institute of Intellectual Property... I wonder if they got clearance from the Einstein Archive. Lupo 18:53, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
It would only be PD-US if published in the US pre-1923 (it is pre-1909 if published abroad). Without any evidence to its publication history we should probably delete it. --Fastfission 03:04, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I am aware of this 1909 thing, see en:WP:PD#_note-0. Until now, common practice on (at least the English) Wikipedia was to apply the 1923 cut-off to works published anywhere in the world. If we want to change that, we'll have to re-evaluate and drop quite a lot of images... It appears that the 1909 date applies only to works first published outside of the U.S. without copyright notice, and is based on a court decision in the 9th circuit that is heavily disputed in legal commentaries. Lupo 07:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
The 1909 vs 1923 thing is really quite unclear, but it does look a bit dodgy, when the law is disputed, for us to decide to pick the version that is most convenient (even though that seems to be the most widely supported view). I think we really need two templates: Template:PD-US-Published-abroad-pre-1908 and Template:PD-US-Published-abroad-1909-1922 or similar. And whether we should be keeping the second category of images is debatable, but at least this way round it would be easier to sort the images. However, I am not convinced that the 1909 vs 1923 dispute is relevant here because that centers around publication. This image appears to be a private photograph - it has been published at some point, but it's not even clear that the date of publication was prior to 1923. If not, then I think that 70 years pma applies in which case this is still copyright in the United States too. TheGrappler 13:29, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
With regards to NASA, Robert Nemiroff and Jerry Bonnell are not credited with the photograph. They are, instead, presumed to be credited with authoring and editing the textual blurb beneath the photograph. Other photographs on their site, such as this, have a distinct credit line directly below the image. No such line is present on the Albert Einstein image page. Unless NASA somehow failed to get permission to use the image and/or failed to credit the copyright holder and their institution (as they claim they do on their about image permissions page), I think there's a good chance it's in the public domain. Punctured Bicycle 02:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
That's the assumption I was operating under when I uploaded the picture in question, as listed in my original Public Domain rationale. If the consensus is to delete the image due to possible copyright violations, there is nothing I can do, but please take the time to do a wikipedia useage check and re-upload the image to individual wikipedias where applicable. -Fadookie 22:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • According to the investigations of the Swiss Copyright Office (officially the Swiss Federal Institute of Intellectual Property), who show that image on one of their websites, Mr. Chavan donated the image to the archive of his last employer, the Swiss Post (then called PTT). This archive is now the Museum of Communication in Berne, Switzerland. Later, the image was transferred to the Albert Einstein Society in Berne. However, no written contracts on these transferrals exist. To be on the safe side, the Swiss Copyright Office got permission from both the Museum of Communication and the Albert Einstein Society. They write in their e-mail that they do not have any indication that the Einstein Archive in Jerusalem held any rights on this image. They do not know when the image was first published. In any case, the image is still copyrighted in Switzerland (and other "70 years p.m.a" countries) until the end of 2012 (but that was clear from the beginning). Therefore, regretfully, delete. Lupo 09:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --Rtc 21:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete TheGrappler 15:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted--Shizhao 12:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:JapaneseAmbiance.jpg

Wrong name. And the same image with an appropriate name already exists: Image:BMWSafety.jpg--Morio 04:32, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


Please use the template {{badname}} in such cases. Will be handled elswehere --ALE! 10:40, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Finder.png

logo, not free copyright --Shizhao 09:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted --JeremyA 04:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Aerobase.png

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Obsoleted by Image:At sign.svg, unused. King of Hearts 22:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --gildemax 14:01, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded — Erin (talk) 08:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded (although it is used on the French speaking Wikipedia) --ALE! 09:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted and changed all uses --ALE! 23:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Leman tutorial 11.jpg

Image is a screenshot of a copyrighted program (Abobe Photoshop) - and AFIAK that excludes it from falling under commons guidelines -- Tawker 15:35, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete as per nomination CyrilB 18:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete as per nomination --ALE! 09:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 11:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Andrew Campbell and Andrew B. Campbell

Material not suitable for the Commons, was moved here after deletion on en wiki. Also contributions by User:Artforum (all uploads of this artist, many could be considered as copyvios). -- Denniss 10:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep (All images are released by consent of the artist in question) @ GFDL the preceding unsigned comment is by Artforum (talk • contribs)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete (again) Commons is not the place for this kind of articles. It was found not suitable even for the en wiki. --Denniss 21:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete This type of article belongs on Wikipedia, but its content belongs nowhere. -- King of Hearts 22:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep :A serious and important artist the preceding unsigned comment is by Artforum (talk • contribs) - Already voted
He may be, but his site states copyright © andrew campbell 2006, with no creative commons notice. Commons is a repository for free images, not an encyclopedia. GeeJo (t)(c) • 18:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC) 18:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep (All images are released by consent of the artist in question) @ GFDL the preceding unsigned comment is by Artforum (talk • contribs) - Already voted
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete doesn't meet commons:project scope and please sign your comments! pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:18, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete contents have simply been transposed here after being deleted from WP. If artist was NN enough for WP then he isn't notable enough for here - the commons is not deviantart. SFC9394 21:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 12:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Chant de la paix.ogg

clear copyright violation: Soviet-PD cannot be applied to music, furthermore there is no licence given by the artists. --Taxman(de) 10:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Why can't Soviet-PD cannot be applied to music ?
There is no licence because of the Soviet-PD, obviously (this is a recording of the 20s). Rama 12:29, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Well now, it took me a while, but i got an e-Mail from sikorski's official for copyrights explaining, that Soviet-PD is (as mentioned by en:user:lupo) not correct for composers like Shostakovich, having died 1975. I got the same information from German GEMA. Therefore, as the music is still copyrighted it has to be deleted --Taxman(de) 09:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Artist died in 1970s. Not yet public domain. Deleted. — Erin (talk) 11:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Shoeonhead.jpg

Not only is there no source of the image, but it's obviously not GPL. The image features an alteration of the YTMND logo, which is copyrighted. Also, if I recall correctly, that poster was posted on YTMND itself, making it copyrighted to YTMND.

  • Nominate and delete. Messedrocker 21:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep YTMND is rather lenient about its copyrights, but i also feel that this would fall under Fair Use guidelines 17:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
    • fair use is not applicable to commons - claiming fair use is in fact a reason for speedy deletion. Read Commons:Licensing and explain what exactly "rather lenient" means here. There's also a strong bias against trademark logos in general (registered or not). -- Duesentrieb(?!) 18:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. Contained several copyrighted elements. Also orphaned and useless. — Erin (talk) 10:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Sunbathe Buttocks.jpg

Neither here nor on flickr is any hint that the pictured ladies have agreed to the publication of the photograph under free license. --217.111.50.205 19:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Photo is in a public place so no model release is needed. Johntex 06:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Please noctice Commons:Licensing#Checklist, section "definitly not ok: Photographs of normal people who have not given their consent". Location is irrelevant.
      • Thnak you for calling my attention to that line in the policy. I was not aware of that. This is a bad policy since US law (where our servers are based) allows for any person to be photographed in any public place at any time. If other countries have different laws then we should at put this in a "case-by-case" category based on country where the image was take. I have begun a discussion on Commons talk:Licensing to try to get consensus to change this policy. Johntex 15:16, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
          • AFAIK the image was taken in Romania. --Pjacobi 20:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete we can recognise the second girl--Klum 19:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep per above. User:Klum seems to be a sock on 217.111.50.205 ... --Haham hanuka 20:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep on the premise that the argument that 217.111.50.205 is trying to make is silly: User:217.111.50.205 is arguing that the ladies in the picture would have been ok with their picture taken and uploaded to wikipedia, had their picture been uploaded under a non-free licence. We do not have any indication of the ladies' desire or preference on their choise of licencing a picture of their buttocks. Therefore the argument 217.111.50.205 is trying to make is absurd. QED.
The choise of licence falls upon the original uploader of the picture. The Wiki Community has to assume Good Faith on the part of the uploader that he is the creator of this contribution, unless proven otherwise. Project2501a | ΑΝΥΠΟΤΑΞΙΑ, ΑΠΑΛΛΑΓΗ, Ι-5 07:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
The argument is that they haven't agreed to any publication. --Wiggum 08:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted (license on Flickr is "© All rights reserved" [9]) --ALE! 23:02, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Sunbathe breasts.jpg

And again: Neither here nor on flickr is any hint about the model's permission to the publication of the photograph under a free license.--Wiggum 19:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Photo is a candid shot taken in a public place. The subjects permission is not needed. Johntex 07:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Please noctice Commons:Licensing#Checklist, section "definitly not ok: Photographs of normal people who have not given their consent". Location is irrelevant.
  • löschen weil keine Einwilligung vorliegt 217.88.156.78 12:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Thnak you for calling my attention to that line in the policy. I was not aware of that. This is a bad policy since US law (where our servers are based) allows for any person to be photographed in any public place at any time. If other countries have different laws then we should at put this in a "case-by-case" category based on country where the image was take. I have begun a discussion on Commons talk:Licensing to try to get consensus to change this policy. Johntex 15:19, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
It is irrelevant whether a model release form is signed when talking about the copyright licence. Copyright is separate from a model release form. It is up to the copyright holder to decide which licence the picture is under. David Newton 12:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
In Germany it is not separated. As the policy (see the checklist) recognizes the problem i assume that this point has been discussed before.--Wiggum 12:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Have you asked the user on Flickr where the photo was taken? I see only a few indications that say it might have been taken in Germany. With only that to go on I'm not particularly inclined to see a copyright problem here. David Newton 20:41, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
No i didn't asked the Flickr user. I'm not the uploader's babysitter. I surely would have done it if it were an unique historical photograph but it's only some kind of bulk good.--Wiggum 20:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • . I guess this girl wouldn't be too happy to see this picture released on the net without her permission for anyone to use, even for commercial purposes... --88.134.45.204 01:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - seems like the girl was aware of taking the photo. --Haham hanuka 16:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete notably because my breasts are better --Klum 19:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
strong argument -.- --StYxXx 03:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Look at her constb and tell me this is not a sockpuppet... also User:Klum seems a sock. We should not count them. --Haham hanuka 20:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Angr 19:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted (license on Flickr is "© All rights reserved" [10]) --ALE! 23:19, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Tange-bikini bottom.jpg

Another flickr image without model's permission.--Wiggum 22:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Photo was taken in a public place so no model release is needed. Especially since the person's face is not even clearly visible. Johntex 06:39, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Again, the first reasoning of Johntex is wrong, but as you can't recognize the person, I think this is ok. -Samulili 13:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm pretty sure that i will recognize any of my friends or co-workers photographed in this position.--Wiggum 13:48, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep nice girl and breast - girl's face is not clearly visible --gildemax 14:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Looks quite anonymous. — Erin (talk) 12:34, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Gosh, what a can of worms was opened here. If you look at the Flickr stream of this guy, it becomes apparent that almost all of his "models" were not even aware of the picture been taken, much less gave their consent. A person, who knows the person in the picture can easily identify the person on the picture. Fossa 14:41, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Above comment was deleted by 207.232.8.34 under the pretext of it being a "sockpuppet vote".[11]. I have reinstantiated it for two reasons: first, we don't vote here, and second, irrespective of who this is, he or she has presented a reasoning. Lupo 19:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Ditto. It is not even a nice ass.--Klum 19:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Could someone of the pro-deleters just ask the photgrapher, whats the status about this issue and whats the legal aspect reagarding this issue in Romania. Otherwise Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral -- Test-tools 13:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Romanian Copyright law states in Art. 88 (the only thing I could find that had to do with personal rights):

Art. 88 - (1) The distribution of a work containing a portrait shall require the authorization of the person represented in that portrait. Its author, owner or possessor shall not have the right to reproduce it or communicate it to the public without the consent of the person represented, or that of his successors, for a period of 20 years after the death of the said person. This is an old version of the law, but the amendment of 2005 was about enforcement and collective rights ([12]) I gather, so this article would still be in effect. Remains to define what a portrait is and if this article applies to this and other pictures. NielsF 14:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete--Iryna Nepomenko 20:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC) (the comment above by Klum is stupid.)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - Identity is obscured. --66.71.222.118 04:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - Herself, close friends and family may identify the person. As long as she can identify herself there, it's highly doubtful it can be used here. There also already are topless women on the article where it's used, and a topless man on a beach. How many more do we need, and why do we need controversial ones? And how pretty girl, breasts and butt she have is hardly relevant in a debate about she being able to identify herself. -- Northgrove 19:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - public place. --Haham hanuka 20:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Angr 19:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - The face isn't visible. 82.37.12.248 00:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - identity not recognizable --Avatar 21:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted (license on Flickr is "© All rights reserved" [13]) --ALE! 23:36, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pistorasia.JPG

poor quality, redundant with Image:Stopcontact.jpg which shows a very similar socket, not used anywhere according to check usage. -81.86.129.150 20:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Plugwash 21:20, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


  • Deleted. Maybe not redundant, but poor quality. -Samulili 12:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] images by user User:Xoxota

This user uploaded several pictures under public domain, but it is really unlikely. When I asked the user more details, he blanked his user page:

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Deletecopyvio--Klum 04:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete--Iryna Nepomenko 20:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete seems to be a clear copyvio --ALE! 23:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete copyvio obvious --Pierre André 18:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep perhaps legitimate. --Klum 04:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete perhaps not. Obviously all images have to be deleted. --StYxXx 03:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep--Iryna Nepomenko 20:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • in doubt Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --ALE! 23:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • in doubt but I would Symbol keep vote.svg Keep --Pierre André 18:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete CyrilB 21:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete all, obvious copyvios, the third image even has a sports illustraed logo on it so it's likely from there Jaranda wat's sup 01:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Deletecopyvio--Klum 04:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete--Iryna Nepomenko 20:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete seems to be a clear copyvio --ALE! 23:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --Pierre André 18:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted (one picture). No one questioned that it's unlikely that the image(s) is in public domain. -Samulili 12:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Flashergrl.jpg

From deactived Flickr account. So we are unable to assure license and model's permission. May well be one og the many weirdos who just upload stuff found on the web to Flickr. --Pjacobi 17:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • It does say that it was "relased as CC-BY-SA-2.0 on Flickr". Perhaps we could assume good faith on that. As for model's permission, she is clearly posing for the pic. Is it a useful image though? — Erin (talk) 11:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • One of the weirdos. That pic has been on the Internet before October 2005. -Samulili 18:34, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete permission questionable. --Rtc 02:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • deletel assuming good faith doesn't seem to be appropriate in connection with flickr. Instead "flickr" should be a speedy deletion reason.--Wiggum 18:45, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 11:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Bodypainting at Purim Carnival 01.jpg

Neither here nor on flickr is any hint about agreement of the pictured ladies to the publication of the photograph under a free license.--Wiggum 19:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Photo is a candid shot taken in a public place so no model release is needed. Especially since the person is difficult to recognize behind sunglasses. Johntex 06:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Please noctice Commons:Licensing#Checklist, section "definitly not ok: Photographs of normal people who have not given their consent". Location is irrelevant. I don't know about jurisdiction in other countries, but in germany a district court judged (in january) that even a noised Picture with anonymised face infringes about personality rights of the pictured person.--Wiggum 08:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Johntex has it completely wrong. -Samulili 13:43, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Thnak you for calling my attention to that line in the policy. I was not aware of that. This is a bad policy since US law (where our servers are based) allows for any person to be photographed in any public place at any time. If other countries have different laws then we should at put this in a "case-by-case" category based on country where the image was take. I have begun a discussion on Commons talk:Licensing to try to get consensus to change this policy. Johntex 15:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --gildemax 17:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep (Speedy Keep) Photo is in a public place so no model release is needed. Not to mention that she seems aware of taking the photo. --Haham hanuka 08:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete it is just plain wrong that no model release is needed if a photo is taken in a public place—that would make the requirement for model releases absurd in the first place. There's no difference for America. Please read en:model release. There are only exceptions for prominent persons if the photo is of public interest (and not used for advertisements or similar purposes, but that restriction is independent from copyright.) This person does not seem prominent to me. --Rtc 02:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 11:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:800px-German Troops In Warsaw.jpg

This image was published 1940 in the book "Die Soldaten des Führers im Felde". The photo was taken by "Hugo Jäger". I do not know when he died but anyway, 70 years after the first publication would be in 2011. And therefore the image chan not be in the public domain. --ALE! 12:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • on the website [14] (search identifier 559369),"unrestricted" use of the document is allowed. I don't know what that means. Also, when you nominate an image for deletion, please add the {{deletion request}} and notify the user. CyrilB 18:46, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
    • This means that NARA ignores author rights... Please see also the "Bilder von Adolf Hitler" section above where the trustability of Nara et.al. is discussed. In this case it's clear (imho, as everytime ;-) - we have an individual author so 70 years pma rule applies. As the picture cannot be taken before September 1939 the copyright is not yet expired.--Wiggum 19:25, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Natürlich löschen! 217.88.156.78 12:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Image:Aiport Diagram of Clinton-Sherman airfield in Oklahoma.PNG

I accidentaly uploaded this image under a mispelt filename (note the misssing "r" in "airport"). It is currently found in several articles here and one article in the English Wikipedia. User:Kimchi.sg tagged it for deletion but did not follow-throgh by listing it here. I am not an admin on commons so I cannot fix the problem. Johntex 06:35, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Please change all uses of the image in all projects to the correct name, and tag it with {{badname}}. -- Duesentrieb(?!) 09:15, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Done. Thanks! Johntex 15:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! 16:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Z1

now Category:Zuse --gildemax 13:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted, empty category --ALE! 16:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Lulusuke.png

same Image:Lulusuke.jpg--Shizhao 15:29, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted, please use {{duplicate}} next time --ALE! 16:25, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Korean people

superseded by Category:People of Korea --Ahellwig 16:15, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Just use {{Category redirect|People of Korea}} — Erin (talk) 05:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I usually prefer to delete a category, because a red category link indicates quickly that the category pretended to use does not exist. If nobody opposes, I will delete this category. --ALE! 07:33, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Very bad idea! Deleting it will very likely lead to people just recreating it in the future, since it is such a likely name for the category. Category RDR is a much better idea (with a bot doing regular sweeps to move images). Therefore Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. pfctdayelise (translate?) 16:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

kept but with a redirect to Category:People of Korea --ALE! 08:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:X11.png

The SVG-version of this image is really equal to the png which is no more used in any wiki. --Sven 19:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete redundant — Erin (talk) 01:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm confused about the copyright status of this logo. First of all, where is the evidence that this logo has been released under a free license, and is thus OK for Commons to begin with? I realize that X11 is free software, but that doesn't neccesarily mean their logo is. On the English Wikipedia, the logo they are using for the X Window System article has actually been tagged as fair use. Second, I've noticed that the SVG version has a public domain tag. But if the PNG image that the SVG is based on is indeed GFDL, then isn't the SVG required to be GFDL as well? Punctured Bicycle 23:31, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 12:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 12:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:20050917dinosaur04pano.jpg

The main subject of this photograph is a sculpture in copyright in the US. The photograph itself is therefore a derivative work and cannot be given a Commons licence without permission of the copyright holders in the original work. See Commons:Derivative works. William Avery 20:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

  • It has come to my attention that there is a souvenir shop inside this concrete dinosaur [19]. So can it be treated as a building, with freedom of panorama? William Avery 12:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I say it can be treated as an building in a wat so Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Jaranda wat's sup 02:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure if it's a building looking like a sculpture or a sculpture with a shop in it, but since very little detail of the structure is shown, I'd say that even if it is a sculpture it would quite possibly be OK; with the doubts on its nature I'll go for Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Cnyborg 13:15, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
kept--Shizhao 11:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Gaziel obra completa.png

This image has been scanned from the main front of copyrighted book. --Yonderboy 01:54, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete copyvio — Erin (talk) 06:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Anna --ALE! 07:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] All images in Category:Seal script GIFs and Category:Great seal script GIFs

I am in the process of converting all the images in the above category into vector format. Many have already been done. For example Image:六書通 中.gif has been superseded by Image:中-bigseal.svg.

Once I have made sure that they are not being used on any project, I'd like to be able to delete them as I replace them. Can I get a consensus for that, please? — Erin (talk) 04:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

All files in the category that begin with "說文解字" and "六書通" have now been replaced and orphaned. Any objections to me deleting them? — Erin (talk) 08:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC) The images have been reorganised into the following categories:

I would like to delete all images in the first two categories, as they have all been superseded and orphaned. I am in the process of replacing the images in the last two categories. — Erin (talk) 08:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 08:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The category is irrelevant for my work, and can be changed. The naming convention can be changed as well. Just tell me where to post my downloads. But the file format is imposed by the data, and should be preserved. Furthermore, the pictures shouldn't be deleted without notice, please revert them. Micheletb 08:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
    Yes, there is a strong objection indeed. My "personnal quest" is on Chineese etymology, for which I introduce some text on the french wictionnary (see there for an index of my work in this field). I have asked for (and obtained) permission to use pictures from http://www.internationalscientific.org/ to explain graphical evolutions (see list of etymological files). When I need to upload some files from internationalscientific, the upload will always be in .gif format, unless there is a magical trick that can change a .gif on my disk to a .svg on commons during the upload. The Category:Seal script, Category:Bronze script and Category:Bone and Shell script will be messy if both .gif and .svg are used, since no one can know which is the correct format for a given download, if .gif are suppressed. The other point is, the downloaded pictures are pictures of archaeological interests, which cannot be replaced as equivalent by drawings which are their modern interpretation. The idea that the "pictures have been orphaned" simply means that the link now points to the wrong picture, and should be reverted. See User talk:Erin Silversmith for more details. Micheletb 08:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
    There is no "modern interpretation". The images are the same except that the ragged edges have been smoothed and the images are now scalable. The ragged edges are not of archaeological interest; there are purely the result of the GIFs being saved at very low resolution. — Erin (talk) 09:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
    This is but an interpretation, and but one half of the problem. The other half is: they should be kept for compatibility, since newly incoming files will comme in .gif format. The fact that a .png is higher quality dosen't mean my work should be put to a mess and/or to a halt. Micheletb 10:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
    This is a "mass deletion" request, which should be vetoed out. If the only reason is "low quality", then please consider the guideline that says "Redundant or low quality files get only deleted on a case by case basis" and ends by "If you're in doubt do not delete such a file". Micheletb 10:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • OK, since deletion of these useless files would traumatise Micheletb so much, I withdraw the request. — Erin (talk) 07:21, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Fritz Todt.jpg

The {{PD}} license is an out-and-out lie. Todt was promoted to general in 1939 and died in 1942, therefore no reason for being PD.--Wiggum 11:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

  • ACK Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --gildemax 18:08, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete copyvio — Erin (talk) 05:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 11:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Mount-feathertop-from-south.jpg

Has been superseeded by Image:Mount-feathertop-from-south-enhanced.jpg


deleted --ALE! 08:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Puffy AmiYumi SVG files

Looks like copybio. A fictional character designed from an actual person is under the copyright. --Kasuga 17:40, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Er... I think fanarts belongs not to its representatives but to theirs creators... Hołek ҉ 16:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
If they are your design, it might be so. However, these are reproduction of official designs.(w:Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi) Cartoon Network owns the copyright of them. --Kasuga 17:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Heh... I didn't know... Anyway: Do NOT delete them. Move them to English Wikipedia and change those poor graphics there. Hołek ҉ 17:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete after moving to Wikipedia. — Erin (talk) 10:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --Raymond Disc. 12:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Madame Tussauds#Wax

Image:Marie Tussaud.jpg Image:DIE BEATLES.JPG Image:BEYONCE.JPG Image:David Bowie at Madame Tussaud.jpg Image:SV400030.JPG Image:Samuel l jackson waxstatue.jpg Image:Mr T.jpg Image:Timothy Dalton as James Bond.jpg Image:Telly Savalas.jpg Image:Jane Seymour.jpg Image:Vincent van Gogh Wax Sculpture.jpg Image:Dalai Lama Wax.jpg Image:Sharon and Ozzy Osbourne Wax.jpg Image:Andrew Sachs.jpg Image:Hitchcock Tussaud.jpg Image:Grace Jones.jpg Image:Charles Dance.jpg Image:Honecker Wachs1.jpg Image:Hussein Schroeder Howard Chirac.jpg

...Nicht erlaubt ist außerdem die Veröffentlichung von Fotos, auf denen Kunstwerke zu sehen sind, die noch urheberrechtlich geschützt sind. Diese Rechte verfallen jedoch 70 Jahre nach dem Tod des Künstlers (genauer: am 1. Januar des Jahres, das auf den 70. Todestag folgt, also für 1936 gestorbene Künstler am 1. Januar 2007).

Copyright infringement, because there is no permission of the sculptor - sculptures are copyrighted! --Tout (Diskussion) 19:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

In the UK at least, §62 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act, 1988, allows to take pictures of sculptures, buildings, and works of artistic craftsmanship that are permanently located in public places or premises open to the public, and to publish such pictures in any way. This basically applies to three-dimensional works only; it does not apply to two-dimensional works such as e.g. murals. Remains the question whether Tussaud's is a "premise open to the public"... Lupo 08:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Es ist - das sollte Lupo besser als alle anderen wissen - ganz und gar irrelevant, was im UK gilt. Die EU kennt keine solche Ausnahme (schon gar nicht DE), also delete --Historiograf 15:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Of course - in the same way like any Museum or church when there is actually no religious service and no "Photography prohibited"-Sign - and you have lots of Images, that are taken in Museums. --Kathe 11:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete These wax figures are copyrighted sculptures, not permanently installed, not in a public place. Commons:Derivative works applies. --Fb78 06:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --Rtc 03:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Derivative works and really of very little wikimedia/encyclopaedic value. William Avery 01:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: Many of these images have not had request for deletion notices put on them. -- Infrogmation 21:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

--- All deleted while no one speaks for their retentions. If anyone has pursuasively valid reasons, it is still possible to appeal the deletion and the deleted images may now be restored.--Jusjih 10:13, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Wappen Rinteln.jpg

There is better file just uploaded by sb else as Image:Herb rinteln.jpg, there's no need to have both of them. Pilecka 19:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I made it the other way round and overwrote this with the better version. Wappen Rinteln.jpg is the better filename. As both are new, it shouldn't make a further difference which I deleted. This kept, the other deleted. --::Slomox:: >< 13:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:USPSstamp

I didn't think fair use isn't allowed on Commons. JYolkowski 23:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Yep, fair use is not possible here. Template should not be deleted but redirected to fair use to prevent a recreation. --Denniss 01:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete fair use --ALE! 09:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, my mistake. --Evrik 14:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I redirected it to {{Fair use}}, better than deleting this template. Every image copied from en wiki still using this template is now (and in future uploads) fair use and will be deleted. --Denniss 15:33, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Uploads of User:Charles wessex

Around 90 per cent of this author's upload seems to be Copyvio. See: [20] --84.168.212.248 20:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


Hm, I already warned this user and they ignored me and reverted my no source tags. I reverted them back and blocked this account. --pfctdayelise (translate?) 05:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Form of government with Freedom House 3.png

The original image was apparently uploaded for the sole and exclusive purpose of propagating deliberately false and misleading information, and User:Dcornio hasn't had the courtesy to reply to the message I left on his talk page. I've uploaded a little null graphic to prevent misuse of the original image, but the the whole thing should be deleted. AnonMoos 00:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

A feeble attempt at spreading deliberate misinformation (i.e. listing Freedom house ratings for every country in the world, but changing the value for the US so it appears to be a dictatorship). The title claims that this is Freedom House ratings which is thus deliberately misleading. The result is completely unencyclopedic. Strong delete ASAP. Valentinian (talk) 08:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Antoni gaudi.jpg

Tagged as "no source" since 21 December 2005. The image is used on 22 projects. So maybe it can be kept if someone prrofs it to be PD. --ALE! 15:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

  • The BBC also has the full version of that image. Interestingly, they don't give any copyright or source indication, which is unusual—they usually give a source for all their images. Given the age of that image, there's indeed a fair chance that it is actually in the public domain by now. Lets see... got it now: according to the Gaudi and Barcelona Club, the photograph was taken on March 15, 1878, the day Gaudí received his title in architecture. Photographer was Pau Audouard (born 1857 in La Habana, Cuba, died 1918 in Barcelona, Spain). Therefore {{PD-old}}, and keep. Lupo 19:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Licence cleared, kept Shaqspeare 13:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Final Solution-chan.jpg

Lolicons (child-porn manga characters) are legally forbidden in some countries (like Canada and UK i think). Wikipedia should not promote this kind of cartoons. Code Binaire 15:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

That's just your POV, as well-intentioned as it is. The image does not depict any actual person, or any sexual activity, so it cannot be child porn. We're not promoting lolicons; we're giving an example of one in an encyclopedia article. — Erin (talk) 01:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Exactly. This image was drawn with the explicit intention to use it to exemplify what lolicon can look like, without infringing on copyright or other laws. —Nightstallion (?) 07:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep as per Erin Silversmith and Nightstallion. TZM de:T/T C 17:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I have some doubt about the relevancy of this image on Commons. But I think the licence is ok and I don't see any problem about this picture. Shaqspeare 19:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

We need this picture on Commons so that it can be used on all Wikipedias (as opposed to a photo of a manga cover, which is legally ambiguous). Ashibaka 16:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Kept. — Erin (talk) 11:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Cyfac Gothica bike.JPEG

REASON (This image is likely under copyright by VeloEuropa, Inc. See http://www.veloeuropa.com/.) --Mindfrieze 03:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 13:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:RERParisVision2025.png

REASON: Includes logo of RATP which is copyrighted --  Pabix  10:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Logos are almost never copyrighted. They are protected by trademark law. --Rtc 03:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep You can stop the deletion request. I've removed the RATP logo now.... --Chumwa 07:32, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


kept (I deleted the first upload with the logo) --ALE! ¿…? 21:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Tour de france 2005 21st stage sm 01.jpg

REASON: See discussion. Not GFDL but CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 --Jan Arkesteijn 09:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Correct. However, it looks like the author would be willing to license it differently. Contact him again and point out that while the GFDL does allow commercial uses of the photo, such commercial stand-alone use of the image is unlikely to occur because the full text of the GFDL must be distributed with any re-publication. Lupo 10:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Before me he sent me the mail which is copied to the discussion page, he wrote me this mail which seems clear to me:

"Hi -  I am unwilling to make my photo freely available for commercial
purposes and prefer to maintain the NonCommercial-ShareAlike  protection.
Sorry for the conflict -
Frank

I also asked him to remove the other images he mentioned on en.wikipedia himself. I don't have an account there, and he uploaded the images himself. Jan Arkesteijn 15:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I still think it's worth a try. I've contacted him over at his talk page at the English Wikipedia. If he still wants the images gone, it's ok by me, but maybe the restrictions built into the GFDL are good enough for him. Lupo 16:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete He didn't reply. Lupo 07:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted / Fred Chess 07:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.jpg

For the Pakistan-PD licensing tag to be effective, Ali Bhutto would have to be at most 28 years old when the image was taken. Also see en:User talk:Chatni#Image Tagging Image:BhuttoZ.jpg --Phrood 18:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete - the same picture has also been deleted from English Wikipedia on the basis of inappropriate licencing info. --Lendu 18:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted, orphaned on 4 projects. Cnyborg 21:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:F1_template.gif

F1 Corporate Logo featured in image which is a Copyvio as it is a registered trademark (see [21]) --Alexj2002 22:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The logo is not the main subject of the image and is partially overlaped by the F1 car. Also is the logo very small and not usable for other purposes. --ALE! 07:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment this was used for a template at EnWikipedia and it was removed since it was determined to be a violation of the fair use policies. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 02:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, but it is still used on the Russian Wikipedia (29 pages). --ALE! 08:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep per ALE!--Jusjih 10:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
kept--Shizhao 11:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:World cup 2006 final Cannavaro.jpg

Double of Image:Fabio cannavaro.jpg --Jacopo86 00:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

They should both be deleted unless one of the uploaders here has a written permission by the original uploader at Flickr, see COM:SXC --Denniss 01:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Ups, my fault; mixing Flickr with SXC --Denniss 09:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete both. Volker Hartmann is a professional press photographer, see e.g. here. The uploader at Flickr, Beatrice Contardi, has no right to relicense this as CC-BY. It's a copyvio. Lupo 09:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted both as copyvio. NielsF 13:15, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Bundesmonopolverwaltung für Branntwein

i have created this page, but it´s unnecessary (only one picture available) --GeorgHH 11:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congress Centrum Hamburg

i have created this page, but it´s unnecessary (only one picture available)--GeorgHH 11:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


OK, I've deleted it because you are the creator and because with it being just a page, it is trivial to recreate it if anyone wants to. — Erin (talk) 11:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Adobepdfreader7 icon.png

Intended for use freely, but You may not alter the Adobe PDF file icon in any manner is non-derivative -- Platonides 14:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --pfctdayelise (translate?) 05:06, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] FIFA World cup photos

Image:Del piero01.jpg, Image:Fabio grosso.jpg, Image:Buffon01.jpg, Image:Lippi02.jpg. All copyvios of professional press photographers' works, distributed commercially by AP, AFP, and other news agencies. I had them all tagged as {{copyvio}}, but the uploader reverted. The copyvio already occurred on Flickr, where these images wrongly are labelled as CC-BY. Delete 'em all. Lupo 18:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete If they're still around tomorrow I'll delete 'em, just to give some opportunity for those opposed to deletion I'll wait a bit. NielsF 00:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I actually saw some of these images on the official World Cup site, so as obvious copyvio's I didn't want to wait and deleted them. NielsF 00:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ylitornio coat of arms.png

An unused duplicate of Ylitornion vaakuna.png. --Hautala 18:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! 23:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Web navigators.jpg

Although free image, it contains non-free logos (derivative work). I would mark it as speedy, but I want a second opinion --jynus (talk) 11:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

should be Symbol delete vote.svg Deleted since from stock.xchng, see COM:SXC, and, of course, your reason is also true. TZM de:T/T C 11:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:UED77 --ALE! 22:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Team Shanghai Alice

[22]内「Q.攻略ページなどでスナップショットを使用したいのですが」によると、改変が制限された自由に使用できない画像。 (free modification was not permitted.)

  1. Image:Satsujinn-Luna.png
  2. Image:Tohouhou07 danmaku.png
  3. Image:Touhou09 danmaku.png
  4. Image:Thouhou08 danmaku.png
  5. Image:Touhou 08 Logo.png
  6. Image:STB-Thumb1.jpg
  7. Image:Yougaku01 Logo.jpg
  8. Image:Bouyuutoukaidou Logo.jpg
  9. Image:Yumetagae.jpg
  10. Image:Rendai Logo.jpeg
  11. Image:Hourainingyou Logo.jpg
  12. Image:Touhou 06 Logo2.PNG
  13. Image:Touhou 08 Logo.png
  14. Image:Shanghai Alice Circle Logo.png
  15. Image:Touhou 07 Logo.jpeg
  16. Image:Touhou 075 Logo.jpeg
  17. Image:Touhou 09 Logo.jpeg
  18. Image:Touhou 06 Logo.jpeg

--Kkkdc 04:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC) added. --Kkkdc 04:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

改変とは具体的に何を指すのですか?サイズの変更に関しては縦横比さえ変えなければOKとなっていますが。--Spail 04:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
「イメージを加工をしたかどうか分からないような加工を施さないで下さい」。自由な加工が許可されていません。--Kkkdc 04:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete OK, If I understood that, the licence does not permit any type of modification at all. That's unfree. Delete. — Erin (talk) 08:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --GeorgHH 11:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: As far as I understand, the permission for modifying was given in between. Shaqspeare 09:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 12:22, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Penis size.jpg

This is a collection of images and there is no indication of any sources for any of the image(s). I suspect thet there is a very strong possibility that this is a copyright violation.--Clawed 09:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually all contributions by this user[23] contain no sources.--Clawed 10:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --- gildemax 21:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete--GeorgHH 11:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Shaqspeare 15:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC) Nothing makes me believe free images were compiled.
deleted--Shizhao 12:22, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Paltamo vaakuna.png

Unused and superseded by an SVG version. --Hautala 18:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Why delete a perfectly good image? If it were a crappy version ok... Anyway, the colors are quite different, so which one is the truest to specifications (if they exist?). NielsF 02:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 04:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 12:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Lapuan vaakuna.jpg

Unused and superseded by Lapua.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 18:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral. Why delete a perfectly good image? If it were a crappy version ok... NielsF 00:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
    • It's not perfectly good, it has a poor resolution and an improper format even for raster images. Why keep an inferior duplicate? --Hautala 10:29, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Yeah ok. Got a point there. NielsF 03:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 04:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 12:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Coat of arms of Lestijärvi.png

Unused and superseded by Lestijärvi.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 18:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Why delete a perfectly good image? If it were a crappy version ok... NielsF 00:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 04:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 12:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Vesilahti.jpg

Unused and superseded by Vesilahti vaakuna.png with transparent background. --Hautala 18:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Why delete a perfectly good image? If it were a crappy version ok... NielsF 00:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 04:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 12:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Malax vapen.png

Unused and superseded by Maalahti.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 18:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Why delete a perfectly good image? If it were a crappy version ok... NielsF 00:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 04:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 12:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete does't look as clean as the SVG version --StuartBrady 14:52, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Helsinki CoA.jpg

Unused, superseded by Helsinki.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 18:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Why delete a perfectly good image? If it were a crappy version ok... NielsF 00:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Superseded — Erin (talk) 00:53, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. The images are strongly different (gold versus yellow, silver versus white, thin line versus wide line etc.) Shaqspeare 12:36, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete at Heraldry gold is the same as yellow and silver is white --jed 12:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
    • But it isn't only a heraldic diadram, but a graphic work as well. If we have two different pics of W. Bush, should we leave only one, because the other one shows the same person? Shaqspeare 18:09, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted--Shizhao 14:50, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Red Star of David.png

superseded by Image:Red Star of David.svg, nominated by jed.

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --jed 16:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Why delete a perfectly good image? If it were a crappy version ok... NielsF 16:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Because this is exactly the sort of image that our policy says should be recreated as an SVG. The PNG is an orphan. My keepdelete vote applies to all the images for which you supplied the same comment. — Erin (talk) 02:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
    Comment: shouldn't that be a delete vote? Our policy also says A clear example which is never a duplicate would be a SVG replacement of an PNG file, so why delete it. NielsF 03:06, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
    What you are quoting is the policy regarding speedy deletion. An SVG version of a bitmap is not a 100% exact duplicate therefore it goes on this page for a while before being deleted instead of being instantly deleted. This is because the SVG version might conceivably be inferior. This is clearly not the case here, so delete. — Erin (talk) 03:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
    Got a point there, the quote wasn't completely appropriate. I however still not see the need to delete images of good quality just because they are orphaned or perceived to be in an "inferior" format. As the discussion in the Village Pump at the moment illustrates, the SVG format (and especially it's rendering in MediaWiki) still has some flaws. The SVG is indeed of the same quality as the PNG, but why should the PNG be deleted? Your argument that this is exactly the sort of image that our policy says should be recreated as an SVG is correct, I'm glad that an SVG version exists, but still I see no reason for deletion. The PNG is under a free license, is of a good quality, a contributor to Wikimedia projects has invested some time into it, so why delete? NielsF 01:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
    Redundancy (hey, this question was quite easy to answer) --jed 05:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
    Indeed, redundancy. NielsF's logic, taken to its logical conclusion, would lead us to keep unlimited redundant copies of the same image, perhaps in a variety of formats (GIF, JPEG, PNG, SVG...) on the basis of them all being "under a free license", "of good quality" and that we have nice big harddrives. Obviously, in a sane world there should only be one copy of each image... the highest-quality copy.
    Also, the idea that we are somehow throwing away the work of someone who has "invested some time into it" is incorrect. In most cases the SVG version is based on the bitmap up for deletion, which means that the fruit of the person's time and effort lives on in the new file. — Erin (talk) 07:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted — Erin (talk) 04:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:PD-stamp

The text of this template is:

"This image of a postage stamp has been released into the public domain by the copyright holder, its copyright has expired, or it is ineligible for copyright. This applies worldwide."

This is in my opinion misleading, as a user could think, that this applies to all stamps in the world. Which in my opinion is not true or at least not for all countries. Therefore this template - which is currently used by 24 images - should be deleted and the affected images should be retagged or deleted. --ALE! 11:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

You are right. A licence template, which does not state the reason, why the image is free, is useless. Delete and retag the images. --::Slomox:: >< 12:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, delete, unless someone can explain why the fact of an image being of a stamp needs a template instead of simply being in a category. Jkelly 20:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, what do we do? I would suggest to remove all {{PD-stamp}} tags and to tag the images with {{subst:nld}} so the authors have chance to choose another license. --ALE! 08:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete the template and {{timebombdelete}} the stamps. Oh, MediaWiki can't do it? --Rtc 09:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I have deleted the template and will tag all images with the following text:


{{PD-stamp}}

The template was deleted, because it did not show the reason for the images to be free.
Please add a new valid license and source. --ALE! 21:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

{{subst:nld}}

Please give me some time to get through all images that used this template and do not close the discussion yet. --ALE! 21:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Next time please use a little more common sense - my images had perfectly valid tags before some anon loser came along and applied the bogus tag. I have to go through and fix my own images because nobody else can be bothered to take a moment to think. Stan Shebs 06:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
It is not my task to look through the change history of all images that used the template {{PD-stamp}}. The point is, that the template is useless and a new license has to be applied to all images. That is your task. --ALE! 07:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

template deleted and all images tagged with {{subst:nld}} --ALE! 08:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Circuitmap.png

It has been superseded by the SVG Image:US Court of Appeals and District Court map.svg, created from the same PDF source. I've already orphaned the image; the uploader has no page on Commons. -- Tintazul 09:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted. — Erin (talk) 11:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kanji_satori.jpg

This is an ugly scan of a bit of Japanese written with a marker pen. Orphaned and horrible. — Erin (talk) 09:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 09:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. — Erin (talk) 11:58, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:COA Danish Royal Family Official.png

The current form of the coat of arms of Denmark's royal family was created in 1972. Danish coats of arms are (unfortunately) not public domain, and it is impossible for the artist to have been dead for 70 years. Delete --Valentinian (talk) 22:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Coa royal denmark.png

This version of the coat of arms of Denmark's royal family was used circa 1944-1972. Danish coats of arms are (unfortunately) not public domain, and it is impossible for the artist to have been dead for 70 years. Delete --Valentinian (talk) 22:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Denmark coa official.png

Much as I hate listing this image, the current version of the Danish national coat of arms was created in 1986, so too new and not public domain (alas). Delete Valentinian (talk) 22:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Krischbluetenfest-Hamburg.jpg

edited version of Image:Kirschbluetenfest Hamburg.png (water mark deleted). --GeorgHH 17:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment: why is the edited image a PNG? This sort of image should be stored in JPG-format I think. PNG is now 350 kb instead of 150 kb for the JPG. Furthermore I'm curious if there is a policy that says watermarks shouldn't be on pictures. NielsF 18:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • No doubt the new version was saved as a PNG because quality is lost each time a JPEG is saved. However, I don't think that this image really loses anything. I have uploaded a watermark-free version over the top of the JPEG, so the images are now identical. I counsel the deletion of one of them, preferably the PNG. — Erin (talk) 12:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Sorry, but in this case I really prefer the PNG. It is far better than the jpeg which really shows its limitation when it comes to fine structures. --ALE! ¿…? 12:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, I agree with ALE!, and as a bonus the png is the one with the correct name. Cnyborg 13:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Kept both, because the PNG is better, but it is derived from the JPG which should be kept for license reasons. / Fred Chess 10:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Europe belief in god.svg

REASON: I uploaded the file, but something went wrong and there's no image to be seen... Still trying to understand SVG files. (Maybe the map should be uploaded in PNG format anyway. --Leinad-Z 02:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep No need to delete it. Just check your file and re-upload it (if you are using Inkscape, consider saving it as "plain SVG" instead of "Inkscape SVG"). There was probably a server error when you tried the first time. Then give it time. — Erin (talk) 02:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
    Oh god, I've just realised what you did. That is not a vector image file. You just opened a PNG in Inkscape and then saved it as SVG, which created an empty SVG with a link to the PNG on your harddrive (I can even see that it is drive J: on your computer) which is visible only if the SVG is opened on your computer. Please either create a real vector image file, or just stick to bitmap editors. — Erin (talk) 04:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Erin Silversmith --ALE! 07:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:SpiridonLouis.jpg

The same as Image:Spiridon louis.jpg --Ante Perkovic 19:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted, please use {{duplicate}} in the future. NielsF 19:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Hamburg.Grossmarkthallen.jpg

Original image Image:Hamburg.Grossmarkthallen.wmt.jpg updated, it´s now a duplicate. Not in use. --GeorgHH 16:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted (next time, please do *not* nominate such an image here. Putting the {{duplicate}} tag on the decription page of the image is enough. --ALE! 13:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Blick Hamburgerhafen.JPG

For Deletion marked on 20:41, 25. Mai 2006 by the author. --GeorgHH 13:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted (by uploader request, not used) --ALE! 08:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Kattwykbruecke Hamburg

I have created this page, but it´s unnecessary (only one picture available) --GeorgHH 16:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HanseNet

I have created this page, but it´s unnecessary (only one picture available) --GeorgHH 16:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nordwestdeutsche Klassenlotterie

I have created this page, but it´s unnecessary (only one picture available) --GeorgHH 16:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:Pfctdayelise --ALE! 22:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Leuenberger.jpg

I think this image shouldn't be under "PD-Switzerland-photo" but not sure, could someone checked it, please? Anna 01:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Anna, if you click on the mentioned source of the picture, you can read: «Copyright, Swiss federal authorities, 2005. Information on the federal authorities' websites is accessible to the public. Downloading or copying of texts, illustrations, photos or any other data does not entail any transfer of rights on the content. Copyright and any other rights relating to texts, illustrations, photos or any other data available on the Federal authorities' websites are the exclusive property of the federal authorities or of any other expressly mentioned owners. Any reproduction requires the prior written consent of the copyright holder. Federal Chancellery: webmaster@admin.ch» so, please just ask at the Federal Chanellery. I am sure, that they will send you a picture of every of the seven members of the Swiss gvernement for the commons CC-BY or other wiki-compatible license! --Eruedin 13:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. {{PD-Switzerland-photo}} is a next to useless template. Based on a decision by the Swiss Supreme Court in one case some people like to argue that simple press conference shots such as this one were PD in Switzerland. Even if that might be so, it is a personal interpretation only, not backed by any reputable legal opinions, and the decision itself was rather heavily criticized. Furthermore, even if such photos might be PD in Switzerland, they'd be PD in Switzerland only. Such images do pass the threshold of originality in many other countries, the EU and the U.S. included. That's not good enough for Wikipedia. We even deleted for that reason the very image this whole case was about, namely Image:Christoph Meili 1997.jpg! That said, contacting the Federal Chancellery and asking for PD or GFDL images of all seven Bundesräte indeed is a good idea. Lupo 19:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Until appropriate consent is given by the Swiss government. Thereby, we could upload other images from the federal council without hinderance. Booksworm 14:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Huh? I don't understand the logic behind that... Lupo 07:38, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Deleted, no evidence of the required permission. -- Infrogmation 04:29, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Lumumba2.jpg

A drawing of Patrice Lumumba, PM of Congo 1960-1961. Uploader tagged this drawing from Congo's Mission to the UN as GFDL, although I can't find any mention of licensing there. Thuresson 02:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I asked the MONUC about the source of the picture (on their homepage). I will tell you the answer as soon as they answer me. --Eruedin 13:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Any answer? If not, we should delete the image soon. --ALE! 15:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Deleted no evidence nor reason to assume GFDL licence. -- Infrogmation 04:22, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Reloading Panzerschreck.jpg

As far as I can tell, this image has neither adequate source information or an acceptable copyright status. The uploader states that this is an inartistic picture under Commons:Licensing#Finland, and as such, the copyright expired sometime in the 1990s, and since it's in the public domain, it doesn't need detailed source information. I don't agree with any of it.

The uploader has been notified on the English Wikipedia. --Carnildo 21:02, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

If the photographer is unknown, then how can one be sure that the Finnish copyright law applies and not some other.
The uploader claims that it is a photograph of Finnish soldiers during World War II. --Carnildo 20:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Too vaugue: no year of creation, no author, no origin, not anything. Siebrand 15:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Kasavubu.jpg and Image:Pres. Joseph Kasa vubu.jpg

These are identical photos of Congo politician Joseph Kasa Vubu (1917-1969). The only source is English Wikipedia from where it has been deleted following a nomination at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images (log). Thuresson 03:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

This picture is only on the commons today. I couldnt find it on other places in the internet with google or alltheweb. So it's probably not stolen from an onther website. Who was the original uploader to the en:wiki? Only he could help. --Eruedin 13:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Uploader to en: was Raju1. Thuresson 16:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete delete in case of doubt. Siebrand 15:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Deleted since no one has spoken to keep them with valid reasons.--Jusjih 16:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Egyptian mural Thebes.png

Why is this image PD? Can't be PD-old (book is from 1977). --Kajk 06:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The original mural is a two dimensional artwork eligible for PD-old, and the illustration in the book is a 'slavish copy' so w:Bridgeman_Art_Library_Ltd._v._Corel_Corporation applies and no new copyright has been created. The tag does need to be changed to PD-old or PD-art. William Avery 07:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep arguments see: Avery. --ALE! 07:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Ok, thank you for clarification. Request withdrawn. --Kajk 20:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Franken-um-800.jpg

Only scanned in by the uploader, not created by him. --HAH 22:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Grafschaft-Henneberg.jpg

Only scanned in by the uploader, not created by him. --HAH 22:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Franken.jpg

Only scanned in by the uploader, not created by him. --HAH 22:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Georg-Ernst-Fürst-zu-Henneberg 001.jpg

Only scanned in by the uploader, not created by him. --HAH 22:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Graf-Wilhelm-4-von-Henneberg-Schleusingen.jpg

Sure the uploader did not paint this, so how can he be the autor? --HAH 22:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Sachsen-Meiningen.jpg

Sure the uploader did not paint this, so how can he be the autor? --HAH 23:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Henneberg Siegel.jpg

Sure the uploader did not paint this, so how can he be the autor? --HAH 23:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Please tag all these images with {{nsd}} and notify the uploader. Tag is wrong, OK, but I think in almost all cases {{PD-old}} would be appropiate. NielsF 00:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:A TransGender-Symbol Plain3.svg

Sorry, but MediaWiki SVG to PNG rendering is too buggy (for me at least). I've given up trying to find a way to get the “center-circle transparency” to work. Firefox renders SVG to PNG just fine, and because there's no preview of SVG to PNG rendering, it's a real drag to have to keep uploading a new version just to see that it won't work. -- ParaDox 04:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll leave it for the devs to have a look at, so they're aware of the issue (bugzilla:6665). To save you tearing your hair out though, I suggest you use rsvg to check your SVGs, since this is what MediaWiki uses. According to w:Wikipedia:Preparing_images_for_upload#Use_SVG_over_PNG: Editors on Linux and other UNIX-like systems [...] can use rsvg-view to preview SVGs exactly as Mediawiki will render them. --pfctdayelise (translate?) 10:14, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
See also unix man command for rsvg-view. --pfctdayelise (translate?) 10:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Don't be so hasty. I have tweaked the file in Inkscape and fixed it. — Erin (talk) 01:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Thank you Erin :-)  Request withdrawn. -- ParaDox 03:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image_talk:Image:Cubitus.jpg

I followed a wrong link (speedy deletion request notice in my talk) and so created the wrong page --Cubitus 08:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Speedily deleted. — Erin (talk) 03:54, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Neo.jpg

photo of a copyrighted object can't be put under a free licence --Schlendrian 17:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nomination --ALE! 13:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete copyvio Siebrand 15:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete copyvio — Erin (talk) 01:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Raymond de --ALE! 22:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Red Lion with Sun.png

superseded by Image:Red Lion with Sun.svg --jed 22:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --jed 22:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep superseeded is not a reason for deletion, especially if the .png version isn't bad. There's still a lot of issues with .svg, so why delete? We're here as a central repository for images for the Wikimedia community, why don't we leave the choice to them? You haven't even notified the original uploader, which would have been the civil thing to do. IMHO this is needless "pollution" of this page. NielsF 00:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete redundant. — Erin (talk) 04:04, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Neutral. If there is some good technical reason why the PNG is better to use than the SVG for some applications, even under specific circumstances, then the PNG should be kept. On the other hand, I have no problem with deletion if there are no such reasons. --Uwe 13:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete same reasons as for Image:Red Diamond.png below. Siebrand 15:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

3/4 majority for deletion. Deleted. — Erin (talk) 16:30, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Red Diamond.png

superseded by Image:Flag of the Red Crystal.svg --jed 22:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --jed 22:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep superseeded is not a reason for deletion, especially if the .png version isn't bad. There's still a lot of issues with .svg, so why delete? We're here as a central repository for images for the Wikimedia community, why don't we leave the choice to them? You haven't even notified the original uploader, which would have been the civil thing to do. IMHO this is needless "pollution" of this page. NielsF 00:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Sigh. — Erin (talk) 03:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I sigh as well... NielsF 03:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep pngs are better to handle. Shaqspeare 12:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
    In what sense of the word? — Erin (talk) 09:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete SVG files are quite easy to handle. --StuartBrady 14:36, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Neutral. If there is some good technical reason why the PNG is better to use than the SVG for some applications, even under specific circumstances, then the PNG should be kept. On the other hand, I have no problem with deletion if there are no such reasons. --Uwe 13:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete SVG is a better alternative in most cases. Supporting 'duplicates' here will only slow down adoption of SVG. Take a chance now and then... Siebrand 15:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
    • That's the wrong way around I'd think. I'm all for SVG but why everyone is this eager I don't see, what's the point in pushing for SVG? Commons isn't here to promote file formats, just as Wikipedia isn't here to promote new views on things. The reality is SVG is starting to get accepted, this shouldn't be a reason to just delete other files, some backward compatibility should be offered. NielsF 03:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Any backward compatibility issues are resolved by the automatic production of PNGs by the Mediawiki software. — Erin (talk) 12:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
        • Which is seriously flawed... But I think my stance is clear so let's not waste more time on this. NielsF 01:03, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

2/3 majority for deletion. Deleted. — Erin (talk) 16:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Logo-fpnl.png (and now also Image:Fpnl.jpg)

I don't understan nothing. You must see Image:Fpnl.jpg and you compare --Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 01:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete It seems to me that both images are of a copyrighted logo, so they should be deleted. On the other hand, if they really are public domain, an SVG version should be created, then they should be deleted. — Erin (talk) 03:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment These appear to be logos from http://www.ligafpnl.com/ , not related to the NFL (?). Keep? Siebrand 15:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I was about to delete these as copyvios, but then I noticed that the PNG was uploaded by a certain User:Chuzo, and the website that it comes from is run by a certain chuzo@ligafpnl.com. This makes me think that he did indeed have a right to release it into the public domain. — Erin (talk) 00:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
These have now been superseded by a vector version (Image:FPNL logo.svg). Delete the lo-res PNG and the lossy JPEG. — Erin (talk) 08:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted — Erin (talk) 04:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kirchnerpotsdamerplatz.jpg

Kirchner died in 1938. 2006-1938 is only 68 years -> not old enough for PD. and GPL it's surely not. --BLueFiSH  08:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Restore in 2 years... Siebrand 15:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted. -Samulili 11:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Milk_thistle_pyr.jpg

wrong interpretation, I'm quite sure all the flowers are milk thistles. Vijverln 21:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep no reason to delete, edit the description perhaps --Astrokey44 13:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Kept. Description can be changed instead. -Samulili 11:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Abludomelita obtusata.png

superseded by Image:Abludomelita obtusata.jpg and replaced everywhere -- Lycaon 22:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget your own userpages here and at en wiki. --Denniss 01:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted. You can use {{Badname}} instead if you make the file an orphan first. -Samulili 11:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Anthurium scheranum

invalid name - Lycaon 11:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --GeorgHH 13:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

You just needed to turn it into a redirect. — Erin (talk) 07:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:The Ultimate Matrix Collection.JPG

photo of a copyrighted object can't be put under a free licence --Schlendrian 17:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nomination --ALE! 13:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete copyvio Siebrand 15:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Potsdamerplatz1.jpg

it is said that the image was taken in 1933 which is not old enough if the author is not known. and GPL it's surely not. --BLueFiSH  08:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • If the author wasn't ever known, 70 years should be counted just from the date of publishing, so i would be PD since 2004. We aren't only sure, if the author is known but omitted by the uploader. Shaqspeare 17:09, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep If author is not known, isn't it PD 70 years after publication? Siebrand 15:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes, but do you know, when it was first published? --ALE! ¿…? 07:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • delete No author named on commons does not mean that this is an anonymous publication. For such cases we have the more than 100 years old rule.--Wiggum 20:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • in doubt Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --ALE! ¿…? 14:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 08:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Panoz emblem.jpg

It's a photo of a car logo-thing. Seems like too close a crop and too simple a shot to gain any new copyright. -- pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:36, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete There's not much else besides the logo and to my understanding, shots such as this should be deleted. --Lumijaguaari (моє обговорення) 02:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Deleted as the uploader has never responded and no one has spoken for retention.--Jusjih 13:25, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:NC 1811 Shield.PNG and Image:NC 1832 Shield.PNG

This style of sign is not used for four-digit routes. [24] shows the three styles of signs that are used. --SPUI 22:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


both deleted --ALE! 21:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] image:Heilbronn-gefallene-landwehr-inf-rgt-121.JPG

Upload by mistake. Better pic of the monument is already up here: image:Heilbronn-landwehr-inf-rgt-121.JPG. Please delete image:Heilbronn-gefallene-landwehr-inf-rgt-121.JPG. Thx.--Bufu 22:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted. Please just ask an administrator, when you upload something by mistake. Shaqspeare 12:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Pseudotriton

REASON -- duplication with Pseudotriton montanus --Juiced lemon 21:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted, please use {{duplicate}} next time --ALE! 07:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Hertie Logo001.jpg

REASON (it is a logo and is published with a public domain license without any permission. the user has already a delete request in his userpage) --LadyofHats 10:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

  • ARGUMENTS (if needed to comment request)- -LadyofHats 10:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted as copyvio. — Erin (talk) 16:22, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pfeil_unten.png

REASON -- superseded by Image:Pfeil_unten.svg, all links removed --Buschaot 14:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --jed 22:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted — Erin (talk) 16:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pfeil_oben.png

REASON -- superseded by Image:Pfeil_oben.svg, all links removed --Buschaot 14:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --jed 22:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted — Erin (talk) 16:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:RubiksCube.jpg

Is Rubik's cube protected by copyright or is it a mere consumer article? --Wikipeder 19:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep If we decide to delete this, copyright paranoia has gone too far. Jon Harald Søby 12:28, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Who who like to rebuild such kubes will get no statisfaction with this Image, he would have to buy his own ;) --Stefan-Xp 15:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Copyright \neq design patent law --Rtc 18:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Kept. — Erin (talk) 16:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:LocationKosova.PNG

There is a new image showing the location of Kosovo in Europe here, and it has been agreed upon that Image:LocationKosova.PNG is not how a province should be marked, after looking at examples of the England and Scotland articles. The new image has been agreed upon on the Kosovo talk page, and this old image is no longer needed. Thank you. --Bože pravde 00:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The image shows the truth about the position of Kosovo in Europe, the licence is ok. The picture is used in manz Wikipedias, the discussion on English Wikipedia hasn't got any impact and isn't any reson to throw this picture away. Shaqspeare 12:28, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Kept. Accurate, not a duplicate. -Samulili 10:58, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Distribution.ctenidae.1.xcf

accidentally uploaded gimp file instead of .png --Sarefo 03:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Just tag it with {{badname}}. — Erin (talk) 03:21, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Banksia dist map colour gnangarra.png

Please delete this image the information contains errors and has now been replaced with this corrected version. Image:Banksia aus dist map colour gnangarra.png, and I created both versions. Gnangarra 13:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! 23:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Fräser mit Wendescheidplatten.jpg

Its the wrong name. --Ussschrotti 14:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Duplicate. Deleted. Please don't put duplicates, {{duplicate}} on the image page is enough. Shaqspeare 15:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Jewish history

No pertinent category (too hazy); see Category:Judaism by country or Category:Jews. --Juiced lemon 15:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:Klemen Kocjancic --ALE! 13:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:All solar systems of the milky way

Empty, complicated and Milky Way has no capitals. --Juiced lemon 16:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:Pfctdayelise --ALE! 08:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Nepenthes rajah

REASON : Specie Nepenthes rajah, no category. --Juiced lemon 18:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:Klemen Kocjancic --ALE! 13:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Islam.png, Image:Islam.gif and Image:Islam.svg

These three images all have the wrong name. The calligraphy is of the word "Allah", not "Islam". Moreover, we don't need it in three formats. All three of these are obsoleted by Image:Allah-green.svg.

If anyone wants another colour, I can do that. But there is no need for this misnamed files, or for bitmap versions. — Erin (talk) 01:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 01:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete wrong name --jed 22:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded images, wrong file names --ALE! 23:12, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep on Image:Islam.png for policy reasons explained and discussed at length at Commons:Village_pump#Stop_deleting_.22redundant.22_images_in_.22inferior.22_formats.21 (Image:Islam.png is the PNG from which the SVG's were made).
    Symbol delete vote.svg Delete on Image:Islam.gif (which was an older somewhat unsuccessful green-colorizing effort which has now fallen by the wayside).
    If Image:Allah-green.svg and Image:Islam.svg are exactly the same, then there's no harm in deleting Image:Islam.svg , but it doesn't in fact have a so-called "wrong name"[sic], because it these pics were never claimed to be calligraphy for the word "Islam" itself -- but rather were claimed to be suitable as stub-markers for Islam related articles. (Calligraphy of the word "Islam" would actually not be suitable as a stub-marker for Islam related articles.) AnonMoos
    I know. — Erin (talk) 15:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted — Erin (talk) 15:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Main climatic zones in Croatia.jpg

Obviously scanned from a book or newspaper. Hence not PD as indicated on the imamge description. --Mazbln 08:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted as copyvio. — Erin (talk) 15:33, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] All contributions of User:Charhally

From Village pump#Need for admin assistance:

Charhally (talk · contributions) was blocked recently for repeatedly uploading unsourced images. After the expiration of the block, he uploaded more unsourced images, and removed the no source tag on the previously uploaded ones without providing any source info on most, and applied a GPL (?) license tag. Those for which he has provided author info do not make clear why there is permission to use the images here. I've retagged some but not all of the 50+ images; I think a block is in order as well. Apologies if there is a more appropriate place to have posted this; I'm more familiar with Wikipedia. Cheers, Postdlf 14:25, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

At least some of images came (for example Image:LoveFeast.jpg ) from http://www.flickr.com/photos/okiboi/, who licensed images under cc-by-nc-nd-2.0. --EugeneZelenko 15:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Symbol delete vote.svg Delete with prejudice. pfctdayelise (translate?) 08:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. — Erin (talk) 16:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ana Rosa Guy Galego.jpg

Text is copied from http://www.petit.com.br/biografias/resultado.asp?Codigo=25, image has unknown licence status, identical to Image:Ana Rosa.jpg --Ahellwig 15:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


No source information at all. Deleted. — Erin (talk) 16:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Hanfblatt-mit-Loechern.JPG

REASON This image is of a very bad quality, as much in content as in technical means, it does neither allow the exact determination of the plants species nor the reason why it is so damaged. It has only been uploaded to get a "free" diagnosis of the plants damage. The picture itself is, as much as I can say, without any use for any wiki-project and should thus be deleted. --Denisoliver 23:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete useless --jed 13:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Agree with both above. Siebrand 14:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted as useless. — Erin (talk) 16:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Dvorak keyboard fi.png

REASON: Appears to be a screenshot from MacOS "Keyboard Viewer" app (or older "Key Caps"). Not free. --Blahedo 22:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I don't see any copyrightable GUI elements or icons. It would be nice to have better images for the keyboard layouts, though. -- Duesentrieb(?!) 09:17, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete I don't buy that argument — if I were to write a program that generated images such as these, I expect Apple would have a case against me. --StuartBrady 13:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think it to be really copyrightable. I'd ask for creating SVG versions from the images and then deleting them Platonides 13:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep not copyrighted. --Rtc 02:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep It think there are no copyright issues here. --ALE! 08:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

kept--Shizhao 11:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Logo 700 lat Iławy.svg

it is taged with PD-Polishsymbol .. just IMO it is not a offical govermental symbol ...Sicherlich Post 17:05, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Of course Delete. A.J. 15:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Deleted. -- Infrogmation 03:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Speed Meter

Empty category. --Interiot 01:30, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:Stahlkocher --ALE! 22:13, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Center_Harbor_Town_Seal.jpg

Duplicate at Image:Center_Harbor_Town_Seal.gif - I wanted the gif (with transparent background), not the jpg... --SatyrTN 05:16, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Aren't both of them a copyvio? — Erin (talk) 07:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Copyvio. Siebrand 14:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I have deleted them both as an obvious copyright violation. If anyone wants this (rather unnecessary) picture on Commons, then they should write to the website and request a release under a CC licence or into the public domain, and upload it as a PNG image. — Erin (talk) 01:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Wzgorze Krzywoustego.jpg

REASON Same photo uploaded with different name Image:Krzywousty hill tower 01.jpg --Jojo 08:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted. Please use {{duplicate}}-template in such cases! Shaqspeare 20:22, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Holy Florian

Should be renamed in Category:Saint Florian according to the other saints, or? 08:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Done. — Erin (talk) 09:18, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ray Conn.jpg

"Private image collections and the like are generally not wanted. Wikimedia Commons is no web hoster for e.g. private party photos" [25] -Samulili 11:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Small amounts of private pics for the user pages are generally accepted. Shaqspeare 18:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
But Symbol delete vote.svg Delete as long it stays unused. Shaqspeare 17:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Shaqspeare is right in principle, but this picture isn't being used on any userpages. Angr 20:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Very much against 'home page' like material. This one's unused and can be considered 'non encyclopedic' Siebrand 13:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Very ugly, useless image. — Erin (talk) 01:38, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete useless --jed 06:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted — Erin (talk) 16:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:NewportBeach California USa.jpg

Got the wrong licence, on Flickr it's non commercial. Darkone 16:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Given that it's a FP, I suspect the Flickr user changed the license. pfctdayelise (translate?) 16:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It's not a FP, though it was a candidate. I don't know any way to find out if it's always been NC or has been changed to it, but either way we have no choice but to delete. Angr 20:24, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Given that User:Solipsist, a sysop, uploaded a higher-res version while this nomination was going on, I feel pretty certain the license must have been OK at that time. We have killed plenty of FPCs on discovering their true license, Flickr or otherwise. We also have Template:Flickr-change-of-license and User:Eloquence is aware of this problem (as he runs the FlickrLickr). But as I said on the talk page of that template, I'm not really certain it's strong enough proof... damn flickr pages not having a history tab :/ --pfctdayelise (translate?) 07:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Damn flickr not clearly showing proper license, only Cc icon... Platonides 13:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted (license on Flickr is "cc-by-nc" [26]) --ALE! 23:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Dvorak keyboard.png

Copyright violation. (Screenshot of Apple Mac "Keyboard Viewer") --StuartBrady 04:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I don't see any coprightable GUI elements. On the other hand, the image is pretty poor. It would be nice to have a better one. -- Duesentrieb(?!) 09:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep as per above reason. Siebrand 14:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Kept. — Erin (talk) 05:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:HanziZhuan.jpg and Image:HanziJin.jpg

Each of these was originally two GIF images that somebody combined into a single JPEG. They are not used anywhere. We don't need these two characters together in one file (both images are of different ancient versions of the two characters 漢 and 字). We don't need lossy bitmaps of these characters; they are obsoleted by Image:漢-seal.svg, Image:字-seal.svg, Image:漢-bronze.svg and Image:字-bronze.svg. — Erin (talk) 07:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 07:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete as per Erin's reasoning. Siebrand 13:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --jed 06:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. — Erin (talk) 05:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kind in Nordäthiopien.jpg

Haben die Eltern des Kindes der Veröffentlichung des Bildes überhaupt zugestimmt? (Und kommt mir blos nicht wieder mit dem nicht lesen und schreiben können Mist!) 82.207.251.233 19:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Translation: "Did the child's parents agree to the publication of the picture? (And don't give me that "they can't read or write" crap.)
    • Pending an answer from the uploader/photographer to the contrary, I say assume good faith that the photographer wouldn't upload the picture without the parents' or guardian's consent; therefore, keep. Angr 20:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Entweder Beweise, oder löschen. Sowas nennt man Rechtsstaat... 82.207.213.188 17:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep nix Beweise, behalten --- gildemax 20:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Wie ich diese substanzlosen Beiträge liebe... 82.207.204.235 16:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Assume good faith: yes. But faith is not enough. When people load up images with no source or licence provided, what are we doing then? We delete the images, cause we have no evidence for the freeness. In dubio pro the potential victim, and that is the child in this case. If we have no evidence for a publishing approval, we have to delete. --::Slomox:: >< 02:02, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep At least in most countries the unwritten agreements are still accepted. Shaqspeare 09:12, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete according to our policy we cannot accept pictures of normal people without consent. I would appreciate if we stop ignoring the personal rights of other people.--Wiggum 19:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Assume good faith in this context is to assume that, if there's indeed no permission of the parents, the author was not aware of the immorality of ignoring the child's personality rights. --Wikipeder 13:26, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Assume good faith about activities merely relevant to policies; assume bad faith when it comes to law. --Rtc 02:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete despite I´ve the unwritten consent of the parents, I would like the picture to be deleted!

--Kolumbusjogger 11:18, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted--Shizhao 12:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Area 51.jpg

The uploader falsely claims this image is a public domain NASA Landsat image (collected using NASA World Wind), but the resolution is many times better than Landsat's. It's clearly copyrighted DigitalGlobe satellite imagery collected using Google Earth (the same image is available, without the perspective added with google earth, at this google maps link. Compare this image to the actual Landsat image of the same location, Image:Wfm area 51 landsat geocover 2000.jpg. The terms of this commercial image's copyright are clearly entirely incompatible with Commons' policy. -- Finlay McWalter 13:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Clear violation. See archive with "©2005 Google" and "Image © 2005 DigitalGlobe" Platonides 13:31, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Has clearly been obtained through use of Google Earth with perspective added.Nilfanion 17:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 15:24, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:San Francisco Chinatown Snoopy.jpg

  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteThis is a derivative work that violates the Peanuts copyright. Angr 18:24, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete See above. Siebrand 13:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • When I loaded the image up here at commons, I did so assuming the picture falls under de:Panoramafreiheit as it is known in German law. In short this says, that a (copyrighted) work of art, when permanently placed in a public place or, as in this case, applied to a building may be reproduced by taking a picture of this public place or building. If this does not apply to US law, and thus to commons, I undertsand that the image will have to be deleted. --Tsui 21:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure even Panoramafreiheit would apply. It's an advertisement and will only stay painted on the side of the building as long as the advertiser has paid for it. Eventually it will be painted over by a different advertisement, so it's not really permanently there at all. Angr 09:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Nothing made by humans (or at all) is really permanent ;-) I don't know how "permanent" is defined by law (Panaramafreiheit). But in the end it doesn't matter if there is serious reason to believe that the image violates copyright, it should be deleted. --Tsui 08:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Image is primarily a depiction of the copyrighted work, rather than a view which incidentally includes a copyrighted work in public space. US law not de:Panoramafreiheit. Deleted. -- Infrogmation 03:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Sony Logo.svg

An SVG of a registered trademark infringes on that trademark. Keeping this image here could land us in legal hot water with Sony Corporation. --Denelson83 01:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Looks like a copyvio to me. — Erin (talk) 01:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

tagged with {{logo}} -> speedy delete --ALE! 07:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:SpaghettiJunction.jpg

The infobox says permission granted but there's no permission anywhere and the source web doesn't show the copyright status of the photos either. Anna 02:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete - I uploaded the image because I thought I needed it - I don't anymore because it isn't in use on the page at all. Jordanhatch 07:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted (uploader agrees, not used) --ALE! 07:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Dolphins logo.gif

logo, not GFDL --Shizhao 06:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


tagged with {{logo}} --> speedy delete --ALE! 07:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Images by User:StreborKram

Looks like incorrect PD tag using. --Panther 09:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Appears to have been deleted. Siebrand 13:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Moesia. mapa de situación.jpg

The licence of the file explicitely forbids commercial use

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Obvious case. Siebrand 13:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

tagged with {{noncommercial}} --ALE! 13:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Carol White

REASON : inaccurate (see en:Carol White) and inappropriate for Wikimedia Commons. --Juiced lemon 12:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Out of scope for this wiki: article without images. Siebrand 13:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Pfctdayelise --ALE! 16:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pirkanmaa.png

Unused and superseded by Pirkanmaa.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 10:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Siebrand 13:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 13:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Moottoritie-561.png

Unused and superseded by Moottoritie-561.svg. --Hautala 10:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Excellent SVG replacement. Siebrand 13:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment SVG looks good, but what's the official colour as there seems to be quite some difference. NielsF 03:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
    • The official colour is "reflecting green". That is for the sign boards, so there's some room for its RGB interpretation. --Hautala 16:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded — Erin (talk) 07:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 13:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Etelä-Pohjanmaan maakunnan vaakuna.png

Ununsed and superseded by Etelä-Pohjanmaan maakunnan vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 10:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Fine replacement. Siebrand 13:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded — Erin (talk) 07:05, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 13:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Adam Gilchrist cricket cartoon.gif

Traced "cartoons" of copyrighted photos. From my talk page:

Are these not just derivitave works of copyright photographs, that you have traced? (e.g. this and this). ed g2stalk 12:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
i suppose. I did those when I was fairly new here and I had seen other cartoons on wp which had been done where no photo was available. --Astrokey44 16:18, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Would you agree that they should be deleted then? ed g2stalk 16:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
ok, put them up for deletion if you want --Astrokey44 05:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete ed g2stalk 11:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Derivative work. Siebrand 12:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 07:15, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 13:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski herb.png

This file is unused and unnecessary. There is vector version of this image with much better quality. Jakub Hałun 12:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Colours of images differ. Please show me an 'original' somewhere. These images are not duplicates or superseded. Siebrand 12:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Colours of this image are improper. Here is another file taken from Ostrowiec Świętokrzyski homepage. As you can see it also differs a bit from vector version but not as much as this file. You can also check on the city homepage . Jakub Hałun 14:15, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Thank you for the additional info. You convinced me. The SVG is of superior quality. Please add this info in the future to speed up the process. Siebrand 14:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete I've corrected the colour to #0492DC, the colour used on the website. — Erin (talk) 07:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 13:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Middlesex County Route 676 NJ.png

Uploaded it before I knew what I was doing with my image editor, then promptly uploaded an SVG version. -- Northenglish 13:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 13:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete as per author's request. Siebrand 14:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 13:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pohjois-Karjalan vaakuna.png

Unused and superseded by Pohjois-Karjala.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 17:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Excellent replacement. Siebrand 19:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Platonides 13:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 13:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Joensuun vaakuna.png

Unused and superseded by Joensuu.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 19:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Excellent replacement. Siebrand 19:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 13:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Hayat-17.JPG

Liegt eine Einverständniserklärung der Eltern zur Veröffentlichung des Bildes vor? Auch arme Menschen haben ein Recht am eigenen Bild! 82.207.213.188 17:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment: It doesn't look like the people had anything against beeing photographed and published. And they don't look poor as you say. Shaqspeare 18:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Das war ein Seitenhieb auf die, wie ich finde, geschmacklose Bildbeschreibung. "Glücklich trotz Armut" oder so stand beim Bildwettbewerb... 82.207.204.235 16:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
From what do you know about their attitude to being published? People have personal rights. Not having images of oneself being published is one of it. And as children can't assert their rights, the parents have to. This means permission by the parents is needed. --::Slomox:: >< 00:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Erledigt, die Erlaubnis wurde nachgetragen. 84.63.118.33 17:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Glenn mcgrath cartoon5.gif

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Appears to be original work. Siebrand 22:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    • See below, author has admitted they are not. ed g2stalk 14:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Derivative of copyrighted image. Uploader consents to deletion. — Erin (talk) 07:11, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Steve waugh cartoon 2.gif

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Appears to be original work. Siebrand 22:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Do you mean keep? Anyway, see below, author has admitted they are derivatives. ed g2stalk 14:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Derivative of copyrighted image. Uploader consents to deletion. — Erin (talk) 07:11, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Ricky Ponting attempt 2.gif

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Derivative work. Siebrand 12:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Really? Shaqspeare 18:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
      • No. Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Appears to be original work. Siebrand 22:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    • See below, author has admitted they are not. ed g2stalk 14:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Derivative of copyrighted image. Uploader consents to deletion. — Erin (talk) 07:11, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pohjois-Pohjanmaan vaakuna.png

Unused and superseded by Pohjois-Pohjanmaan vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 10:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Details of the coa are not the same. Siebrand 13:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Heraldically they are identical. --Hautala 15:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Heraldically identical, keep svg --Tomia 23:08, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Järvenpään vaakuna.png

Unused and superseded by Jarvenpaa.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 10:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep as long as there's no clarity on colour (also see http://www.jarvenpaa.fi/). Siebrand 13:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Which colour? It should be in obvious that all these three examples have the heraldic blue and silver, no other colours. --Hautala 15:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep until a perfect replacement. Why is the drop shadow missing from the SVG? — Erin (talk) 07:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Heraldically identical, no need for shadow. --Tomia 23:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Raision vaakuna.png

Unused and superseded by Raisio.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 16:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Heraldically identical --Tomia 23:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ilmajoki coat of arms.PNG and Image:Ilmajoen vakuuna.PNG

Unused and superseded by Ilmajoki.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 16:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. All heraldically identical --Tomia 23:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Israel Libano pt.jpg

REASON: I want to replace this picture with a better one (png format). The picture is brand new and I am the author. --Carlosar 21:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Please upload the better one first (and link it here). pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

kept (no reaction of the uploader) --ALE! 08:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:MetaCarta1.jpg

copyvio--Shizhao 14:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • ACK Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --- gildemax 16:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! 14:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Panthera tigris tigris edited.jpg

Bad color correction of Image:Panthera tigris tigris.jpg. A better one exists at Image:Panthera tigris tigris edited2.jpg. -- howcheng {chat} 17:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! 21:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Bricklin Stamp.jpg

Looks like incorrect PD tag using. --Panther 09:15, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted (canadian stamps are PD after 50 years, this one is from 1996) --ALE! 21:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Tarłów herb.png

This file is unused and has very bad quality. There is vector version of this image available. Jakub Hałun 12:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Colours of images differ. Please show me an 'original' somewhere. These images are not duplicates or superseded. Siebrand 12:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The PNG is low-quality and the SVG is pretty good quality. Heraldic "gules" does not have a pantone color. AnonMoos 21:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Signs in Category:Road signs of Poland

have been superseded by SVGs. SVGs are 100% compatible with the polish highway code.

--MStankie 23:23, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment If not all instances have been replaced, please add the {superseded} tag to all images involved. These image are not tagged, so with provided information I say: keep. Siebrand 13:19, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete now all images are orphan and marked with {Vector version available} --jed 07:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

all deleted --ALE! ¿…? 14:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Crayfish-Astacus astacusP1002890.JPG

URL mentioned on the image twice, almost impossible to remove. Really ugly. Siebrand 14:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • What exactly is your argument for deletion? — Erin (talk) 02:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
    I'm going to guess it is the overlayed advertising text which is almost impossible to remove... I know that I find it objectionable. --Gmaxwell 06:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
    Yes, maybe I didn't use the right words. I checked all uploads of this user and removed all overlay text where possible. This image was one where I couldn't see where to start retouching. Siebrand 07:01, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Request uploader submit image without text. He is still active and most of his images are not tagged. If he is unable I might find that cause to question the copyright status of this image.. in any case, I support getting rid of the current version. --Gmaxwell 06:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Uploader is a red link. I reckon he won't reply. We're not desperate for pix of crayfish. — Erin (talk) 07:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Text is not so disturbing when thumbnailed. It sends to www.armeniapedia.org, and original version is [27] so you can contact the uploader (the same on commons and armeniapedia) here (he's active and the webmaster) Platonides 13:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. The watermarking renders the image unusable. --Carnildo 21:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep been bold - message removed - Lycaon 19:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Watermark removed. Image kept. — Erin (talk) 23:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Effetto fotoelettrico

REASON: inappropriate for Wikimedia Commons (now, the image is categorized). I have transfered the text here. --Juiced lemon 11:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 13:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:APL_development.jpg

REASON: This is a copyright violation. The original source specifically says, all rights reserved. This means that the right to redistribute or make derivative works does not extend to users. lensovet 00:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • The original uploader has called this "vandalism" and refuses to understand basic copyright principles. lensovet 00:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Obvious copyvio. Speedy delete. — Erin (talk) 01:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Wittow rügen.png

I found this with a speedy delete tag on it, but it is not an exact duplicate, so it belongs here. — Erin (talk) 07:27, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded. — Erin (talk) 07:27, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep This version contains no national land names written (Rügen is not everywhere called like that). Shaqspeare 11:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Paddy --ALE! 08:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:TL032648.jpg

Was deleted on enwiki, reason: invalid fair use claim.--Gunther 07:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Data laundering

REASON: inappropriate for Wikimedia Commons. --Juiced lemon 09:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:Pfctdayelise --ALE! 16:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Aki Shimizu 20060709 Japan Expo 01.jpg

According to the description this picture is Violation of rights of portrait and Violation of rule of event Japan Expo 2006.

Please do not up-load it to the Internet. It warned in the Japan Expo 2006.
She would like you to delete it at once because the person in question also dislikes it.

Image was marked as speedy, but after deletion I was contacted by User:Traroth with note, there is no reason to delete. Well. I don't know... --Zirland 11:08, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I dont't see any reason to delete this picture. The person on the picture smiles friendly to the photographer and doesn't seem to dislike to be pictured, and the rule of an event, like Japan Expo, apply only to this event, and not outside. Traroth 09:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Restore (a second time...) and keep. There is no real reason to delete this picture. Hégésippe Cormier 11:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Restore idem Hegesippe C --Padawane 11:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I know that all we care about here on commons is a free license and that the subject is not trademarked. But if it was not legaly made I disagree to keep it. That is if the people of the EXPO do not want anybody to publish the fotos that they made (private use only). Or if nobody was allowed to make fotos without press card at all. If it was legal to make photos there without any restriction I appeal for a strong keep. --Paddy 13:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    I don't see anything about rules for photos on the website of the JE, but there are tons of photos taken during the expo on the forum of this site... If there were restrictions, they should apply them on their official website first. -Ash Crow 17:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep je n'ai trouvé aucune information concernant une interdiction de prendre des photos sur le site.--Emmanuel legrand 17:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep There is no reason to delete this picture. Okki 19:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I don't see the point to delete this picture. However can someone clarify the state of this vote? Greatpatton 09:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Aki Shimizu 20060709 Japan Expo 02.jpg

According to the description this picture is Violation of rights of portrait and Violation of rule of event Japan Expo 2006.

Please do not up-load it to the Internet. It warned in the Japan Expo 2006.
She would like you to delete it at once because the person in question also dislikes it.

Image was marked as speedy, but after deletion I was contacted by User:Traroth with note, there is no reason to delete. Well. I don't know... --Zirland 11:08, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I dont't see any reason to delete this picture. The person on the picture smiles friendly to the photographer and doesn't seem to dislike to be pictured, and the rule of an event, like Japan Expo, apply only to this event, and not outside. Traroth 09:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Restore (a second time...) and keep. There is no real reason to delete this picture. Hégésippe Cormier 11:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Restore idem Hegesippe C --Padawane 11:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep je n'ai trouvé aucune information concernant une interdiction de prendre des photos sur le site.--Emmanuel legrand 17:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep There is no reason to delete this picture. Okki 19:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Paddy --ALE! 10:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC) restored by Paddy comment same as above User:Paddy --Paddy 13:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Yamaha YZF R1 2002.jpg

No license given. There are several other files uploaded by the same user suffering from the same problem.--Gunther 11:12, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted (copyvio) --ALE! 12:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Stephan.jpg

Has been marked unknown copyright status for almost a month. --rayx talk 13:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • It's not used anywhere and
  • there's an image with the same name in the german wikipedia that might be moved here soon.--rayx talk 13:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The fact that a new image may be moved here is no reason to expedite the deletion. In fact, it makes it less important because it would simply overwrite the bad pic solving the problem. In any case, I'll delete it as an orphan copyvio. — Erin (talk) 23:38, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted — Erin (talk) 23:38, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

(a new image was uploaded in the meantime. --ALE! 08:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC))

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[edit] Image:bromus_tectorum_habitus.jpeg

This pictures shows the wrong plant. Please delete it. Fabelfroh 15:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:bromus_tectorum_unten.jpeg

This pictures shows the wrong plant. Please delete it. Fabelfroh 15:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:juncus_squarrosus_detail.jpeg

This pictures shows the wrong plant. Please delete it. Fabelfroh 15:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by uploader request --ALE! 16:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Hamburg-Mannheimer

I have created this page, but it´s unnecessary (only one picture available) GeorgHH 20:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted (by request of the author) --ALE! 22:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:IndyFlag.svg (and Image:IndyFlag.png)

I am the author of this image, and request deletion. A better quality version of this image has been created Image:Flag of Indianapolis.svg. The corners should not be rounded, and the positioning of the star is a bit off, so this is an inaccurate image. --Invitatious 00:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd also like to add Image:IndyFlag.png to that.
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete both — Erin (talk) 01:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete delete both --jed 06:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. — Erin (talk) 12:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Lappajärvi vaakuna.png

Unused and superseded by Image:Lappajärvi.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 19:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The PNG is quite crappy, but the SVG lacks detail. Delete the bitmap but don't forget to improve the vector version. — Erin (talk) 23:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Jyväskylän vaakuna.png

Unused and superseded by Jyväskylä.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 20:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The PNG is quite crappy, but the SVG lacks the drop shadow. Delete the bitmap but don't forget to improve the vector version. — Erin (talk) 23:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted--Shizhao 11:43, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Itä-Uusimaa vaakuna 2.png

Unused and superseded by Itä-Uusimaa.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 09:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --Tomia 23:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Nurmon vaakuna.png

Unused and superseded by Nurmo.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 13:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --jed 06:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete superseded --Tomia 23:28, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Fitzroya.jpg

REASON I uploaded this from Russian wiki where it is labelled {GFDL}, but have since found it is copyvio from http://www.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/boga/html/Fitzroya_cupressoides_Foto3.html (it should also be listed for deletion at ru:Изображение:Fitsroya.jpg, my Russian isn't good enough to do so) - MPF 14:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Please someone hurry up and delete this copyvio pic! This is a clear 'speedy' delete - MPF 20:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --Raymond Disc. 11:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Rastop (and Image:John1234.jpg)

advertisement for probably nonfamous "DJ" --Ahellwig 20:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete vanity page. — Erin (talk) 23:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Infrogmation --ALE! ¿…? 09:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

@Infrogmation: Please close the discussions when you delete an image!

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[edit] Image:Stereolepis gigas1.jpg

The image clearly shows copyright by Mark Conlin. --Humus sapiens 08:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I've sent an e-mail to the contact person at http://www.markconlin.com/ I will let you know if he returns the e-mail. 24.196.67.58 21:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 09:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Members of the Maquis in La Tresorerie.jpg

No reason given why this should be considered PD, despite the usual silly "PD according to en.wikipedia", where there's no reason given either (as with most pictures there). --AndreasPraefcke 07:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Original is here: Copyright: Expired, Restrictions on use/reproduction: Nil. Platonides 14:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep That looks like an official confirmation of PD status to me. — Erin (talk) 07:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Comment The picture likely is in the Public Domain in Canada only. The template used was blatantly wrong. Also the Library and Archives Canada does not make official confirmations. If you use their pictures, you do so at your own risk. --Rtc 17:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep No reason given to assume that Donald I. Grant is not a member of the Canadian Department of National Defence. We need to be aware that Library and Archives Canada is only concerned with copyright status in Canada, but I don't think it is reasonable to need proof of citizenship for every WWII Canadian soldier with a camera. Delete it if Donald I. Grant is shown to be of some other nationality. Jkelly 00:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

kept--Shizhao 12:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kuroro.jpeg

I uploaded this and I request for it to be deleted because it is a copyrighted screenshot. Sorry. Arbitrary 04:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:Pfctdayelise --ALE! 08:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Bastille Day fireworks and Eiffel Tower.jpg

Uploader request: Erroneously uploaded. Incompatible licence. --TheBernFiles 05:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:Pfctdayelise --ALE! 13:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:FionaInShortHair.jpg

Non-free image. --Hello World! 08:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Blatantly. Deleted. — Erin (talk) 09:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:DEFINIENDO AL RIESGO ÓPTIMAMENTE.pdf

Contains only text -- EugeneZelenko 15:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --- gildemax 16:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! 08:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:ActImplDef.jpg

REASON:Incorrect upload, thanks for deleting, Brett 14:30 July 19, 2006 (UTC)


Deleted. NielsF 01:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC) deleted by User:NielsF --ALE! 09:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:GeogeDallas.jpg

I made a typo in the name uploading it, It is now replaced by Image:George_Mifflin_Dallas.jpg --Poulos 20:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Please use {{Badname}} in future. — Erin (talk) 01:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Real

This page has little value. There is already a category for this (Category:Money of Brazil). The description of the image has been copied or is already on the image page. --Chochopk 00:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The category is more appropriate for this. — Erin (talk) 02:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Redirected to Category:Money of Brazil. Seemed the simplest thing to do. NielsF 02:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Anja Juliette Laval.jpg and Image:Anja Juliette Laval 2.jpg

Images of Laval were uploaded on de.wiki by a newbie, asked about source he didn't answer (see: [28]), description of photos looks absolutely unrealiable, these are not self-made portraits, but screenshots. Szwedzki 22:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Almost certainly copyvios. — Erin (talk) 04:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Nope they are not! I know the guy who uploaded them to the de.wikipedia in the first places. He works as a photographer and took theses pictures really himself, when taking promotional pictures of Mrs. Laval. Keep. 84.63.116.52 11:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
      • I suppose 84.63.116.52 does not "know the guy who uploaded them" but is the guy who uploaded them. Don't believe his claims until he shows proof by uploading a higher resolution. --Rtc 15:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Uploader already years ago claimed to be photographer, but never showed proof in form of higher resolution. Now it's time to take the consequences and delete the pictures. --Rtc 02:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The uploader had had enough time to prove he took these pics. But he showed us no prove. Shaqspeare 15:43, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Fake licence. Deleted. Shaqspeare 15:43, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Lebanon civil war map 1983.gif

I just happened to check the linked source of the picture (Wars of Lebanon) and found that this is not "based" on the map on that website, as the uploader claims, but is a pure copy of it. The only difference is that he has removed a year in the map and removed the text stating what it's based on --Thomas Blomberg 02:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Copyvio --Platonides 14:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom --Astrokey44 11:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete I uploaded this one, but I didn't check it on English Wiki. Sorry, delete it! Shalom 18:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted as a copyvio. -Samulili 10:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Nevada 215.svg

I am the uploader, I request deletion as Nevada State Route 215 is an Interstate Highway; the sign doesn't exist. --Geopgeop 16:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! 10:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kentjones.jpg

Low-quality picture of an unidentified person. - Andre Engels 09:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Vanity — Erin (talk) 11:22, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted. -Samulili 10:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Polyphylla fullo

Created in error, now replaced by this gallery page. --Gpvos 20:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! 11:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Americana SP Brazil Photo.png

REASON: I have replaced the image by a better one: Image:Americana SP Brazil Photo.jpg --Carlosar 16:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete both. The image is too blurry (both versions) to illustrate anything. NielsF 02:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete both per NielsF. --Panther 10:31, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belarusian coins

This page has little value. There is already a category for this (Category:Coins of Belarus). The description of the image has been copied or is already on the image page. --Chochopk 22:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The category is more appropriate for this. — Erin (talk) 02:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom, only one image --Astrokey44 12:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Belarusian bills, 2000

This page has little value. There is already a category for this (Category:Bills of Belarus, 2000). The description of the image has been copied or is already on the image page. --Chochopk 22:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The category is more appropriate for this. — Erin (talk) 02:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep nice to see them organised like this, rather than in whatever order the filename happened to be in the category. --Astrokey44 11:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep definitely adds information! If anything delete the category! pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep As far as I remember consensus in page/category battle was "category for all images, gallery pages for selected images". --EugeneZelenko 14:25, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • See above (Belarusian bills, 1992). NielsF 01:22, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
kept--Shizhao 15:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:KEVIN COSTNER.jpg

While this image appears on a U.S. Government website, it provides an image credit stating that it is not a work of the U.S. government, but is derived from a poster from the movie Wyatt Earp (1994). No mention of a release is made. --GeeJo (t)(c) • 01:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete There is a big misconception among Wikipedians that everything that appears on US Government websites is public domain. In this case it's a picture from an exhibition held in 2003 at the Hoover Archives, full of film posters and studio pictures of various Hollywood cowboys. Obviously those pictures are not "the work of the United States Federal Government" and the copyright remains with the studios. On the Hoover Archives website they have also pictures from an exhibition about Bob Hope. In that case they state that the exhibition material was on loan from Hope Enterprises Inc, (the estate of Bob Hope, I assume), but there agin they don't clearly say that the material is copyrighted, which it clearly is. Thomas Blomberg 02:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Wsiegmund 23:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete no government work --ALE! 10:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! 22:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Galleria pittori Francia

REASON: duplicate of Jacques-Louis David and Category:Jacques-Louis David. --Juiced lemon 10:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete no need.--Nilfanion 16:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Image:Dasyurus geoffroii.jpg & Image:Bettongia penicillata.jpg

I am the uploader. Photo taken in Melbourne Museum without authorization. Sorry! Nezumidumousseau 14:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Seems a dissected animal. Who whould be carrying the ©? Platonides 14:19, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Of course and it is now an artefact © Melbourne Museum Nezumidumousseau 21:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
These images are used on a large number of wikimedia projects. Melbourne Museum, like other Museums, probably is only interested in attribution, which is completely within our policy. Please determine for certain before deleting. Cary "Bastique" Bass parler voir 14:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Kept. The images do show (dead) wild animals only and are even not an arrangement. So the museum can hardly claim a (c) on the appearance of these animals or on the (not visible) arrangement itself. A completely other topic would be a reconstruction or a arrangment of objects. Such works would be indeed copyrighted by the museum (for example a Neandertaler reconstruction). Arnomane 18:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pettinato_at_indomables.jpg

Copyvio. This isn't a pic of Pettinato in a public place, it's a pic of him making his tv show, the producers of the show are the copyright owners. I tagged this pic with {copyvio} but a administrator tell me that my reason isn't so strong :S
Copyvio. Esta no es una foto de petinato en un lugar público, esta es una foto de él haciendo el programa de tv, el copyright pertenece a los productores o dueños del espectáculo. Había marcado esta foto como {copyvio} pero un moderador me dijo que la causa que puse no estaba muy clara :S --Martin Rizzo 01:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


TV screenshots are a blatant copyvio. Speedy deleted. — Erin (talk) 01:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] José Mirelli

REASON: promotional. See es:José Mirelli. --Juiced lemon 13:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted, articles without media can be speedy deleted. pfctdayelise (translate?) 12:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Star Trek Tos OF5d.png

REASON: When I originally uploaded this image I inadvertantly used a name that broke an informal standard used by the other Trek rank insignia images. I've since uploaded a new version under the correct name, Image:Star Trek Tos OF4a.png. --Bryan Derksen 05:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted — Erin (talk) 08:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Corey pickelsimer

REASON: promotional. --Juiced lemon 16:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems someone tries to promote himself ..., see also Image:882092L.jpg and Image:Corey Andrew Pickelsimer.jpg --Denniss 21:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted--I marked Image:882092L.jpg as a dupe. I guess that Image:Corey Andrew Pickelsimer.jpg could go too. JeremyA 23:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Franz-Schnabel-Gedächtnismedaille.jpg

According to German law this is a copyvio. Alexander 14:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Warum denn das? CyborgMax 11:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete obvious copyvio. coin is protected by copyright. --Rtc 18:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted (copyvio) --ALE! 12:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Top foto gardena.jpg

Keine Erlaubnis der abgebildeten Person zur Veröffentlichung des Bildes zu finden. 82.207.204.235 16:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Photographer and model are claimed to be the same person. It's a self-portrait. Alexander 18:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Mea culp, das hatte ich übersehen! 84.63.116.52 11:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

kept --ALE! 14:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Everrain

REASON: promotional. --Juiced lemon 16:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Yes, it looks promotional. Delete the image too. — Erin (talk) 02:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete As above. Shaqspeare 15:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted — Erin (talk) 12:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Modernes China.jpg

Keine Einverständniserklärung der abgebildeten Person zur Veröffentlichung des Bildes. Auch Chinesen haben wohl ein Recht am eigenen Bild will ich meinen. 82.207.204.235 16:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Google translation: "Is a permission of the shown persons for the publication present? Also Chinese have rights!"
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment We need a policy on personality rights as a matter of some urgency. pfctdayelise (translate?) 12:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Those people are only a part of a larger view. It's not showing each person his/herself. Shaqspeare 15:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
    • This was my first thought too. But i think the girl in the foreground is at least a borderline case. In my opinion the two trolley tables and the girl are the main focus of the composition.--Wiggum 19:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral --- gildemax 20:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I think we should follow local laws with regard to privacy (unless US law is more strict), in this case that of China. Now, I don't know what the Chinese law says, but I know that according to Finish law this is ok because the lady in the foreground is not the subject of the photo (the photo is not of her) but makes part of a larger pub (?) scene. -Samulili 21:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
    • "Citizens shall enjoy the right of portrait." [30] According to my dictionary, this is not a portrait, but maybe it is in Chinese (PRC) law. -Samulili 21:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Die Frau im Vordergrund ist bildbestimmend und hat ein Recht am eigenen Bild. 217.88.173.176 12:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Week kept. From the comments it seems that we don't quite know where to draw the line. It would seem at the moment that portraits and the like of non-celebrities are not accepted, but images like these are in the gray zone. They are in the gray zone because legal and/or moral issues have not been discussed with enough expertise. As I loath Case law I wish that no-one interprets this as a precedent but rather as an incentive to start crafting a policy. -Samulili 08:13, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Cursoimss.jpg

REASON:

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete I was going to speedy it as an obvious copyvio, but the uploader has a username suggesting that he might be a doctor, in which case he may have the copyright on the poster for this medical seminar. On the other hand, this image is promotional material which is useless to our project. — Erin (talk) 01:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep i have the copyright on the poster since i made it, it provides informations about an international medical meeting celebrated in mexico city every two years, my intention is not to advertise the meeting, it is only to inform people who might be looking for information about it. Dr. Adrian Medina Castellanos
Symbol delete vote.svg Deleteuseless promotional material, out of scope of the project --ALE! 15:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted (out of scope) --ALE! 08:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Prinz Eugen and Bismarck against Hood and PoW by C Bergen.jpg

The author Claus Bergen died in 1964, therefore not PD.--Wiggum 08:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

This is a Photograph not the Painitn itself. The rigth of reproduction of a painting ist at the owner. If the painting ist shown in public everyone has the right of photographing it and the Painter has no rights on the taken pictures. -> not delete--WerWil 11:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
This is a derivative work which could only be licensed by the copyright owner which is Bergen in this case.--Wiggum 19:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
This do not fit with Paintings. Remember this Case of Corel against a Museum. Photografs of Paintings do not fall under the copyright of the painter.--WerWil 19:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Vergiss meinen Mist, da hab ich mich vergaloppiert--WerWil 20:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. Unless clearly stated otherwise, the right of reproduction of a painting belongs to the artist, not to the owner. Jastrow 19:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --Rtc 06:32, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 12:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:MA_map_highlighting_New_Bedford.png

Out of place with the rest of the MA town maps, is superseded by Image:New Bedford ma highlight.png. grendel|khan 15:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - The blue surround is misleading too.--Nilfanion 16:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - The new one looks better than my version of it. Go ahead and get rid of it. -- LGagnon 01:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 14:20, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:PD-UK-photo-pre-1945

The tag is nonsense and misleading: Files created prior to 1945 are only in the public domain in the UK if they are in any other EEA country as well, that is 70 years after the death of the author for the most part.

--Wikipeder 12:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete and all tagged pictures as well. Even the link in the template clearly says: "However, if such a photograph was protected on 1 July 1995 in another European Economic Area (EEA) state under legislation relating to copyright or related rights, copyright would have been revived from 1 January 1996 to the end of the term applying to photographs taken on or after 1 January 1996."--Wiggum 12:54, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Indeed, it does say that right in the template. So why blanket tag them all? - Themadchopper 03:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Because there are no pictures which are free under this license exclusively. Either they are old enough (70 years pma/older than 100 years) or they are not PD. That's it. Please witness that most tagged images are WWII-pics which were protected before 1945 in European Union states, therefore they are protected today.--Wiggum 20:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete the template, but let us sort out the images, a few maybe PD like Image:Tsar Nicholas and King George Nw nicholas george 01.jpg. Jaranda wat's sup 04:08, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Beware the EUCD magic wand wavers. As stated in Commons Licensing, under US law, any work which was PD in the country of origin on January 1, 1996 was PD in the US. This was permitted under the Uruguay rounds, and many other countries may have similar laws. It may not be so in other countries of the EU, but it is a speculative point. As the article on the EU directives points out, EU directives are not laws, and have no force of law until they are embodied in the laws of the local governments. The EUCD wand wavers would have you believe that the laws of the UK and Italy for example are illegal. This is highly speculative and asks us to believe that Italian and UK legislators did not understand the EUCD when they declared their copyright laws were in compliance with it. -Mak 23:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The UK has implemented the EU Directive on harmonising the term of copyright protection (as have all EU members, by the way), effective date July 1, 1995. Hence any such restored copyrights were also restored in the U.S. under the URAA on January 1, 1996 because at that date, the restoration in the EU had already happened and thus any works subject to it were no longer PD in their EU country of origin. To Mak: to what extent local legislation for "simple (non-artistic) photographs" or for "government-owned photographs"—which are the two cases your dabates about Italian law are about—might exempt some photographs from the copyright restorations under the EU directive of 1993 and whether such exemptions for government-owned photographs might also be valid in other countries are questions that we should ask a real lawyer. I suggest you contact Soufron about it. Lupo 07:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
deleted. Redirect to Template:Copyvio --Shizhao 12:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:FakeNES Screenshot.png

Screenshot containing, among other things, the logo of en:Konami. I doubt that is free. --Lhademmor 09:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • It should be possible to find some homebrew or demoscene NES ROM and screenshot that to replace this image. Does anything here look good? (I don't have an emulator at the moment to do it myself.) Grendelkhan 15:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete copyrighted screenshot, even if it's from an simulator, please upload as fair use in the english wiki Jaranda wat's sup 02:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted-- copyrighted screenshot. / Fred Chess 10:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Event-Roche Doktorarbeit aus dem Jahre 1978.jpg

Photo of protected work. --Rtc 04:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The content of the image is not the - still protected - thesis but the promotional poster to a lecture of the thesis. This poster was created by the uploader. It is used on the German wikipedia to illustrate two articles related to the subject. --ALE! 15:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
The poster was created and photographed by the uploader? The image description page does not make that clear and needs to be updated then. Please do if you have the information. --Rtc 06:37, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, you are really giving me second thoughts... The description says "own work". Well, I think we should contact him on the German Wikipedia. Can you do that? I have to go. --ALE! 14:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete it does not fall under de:panoramafreiheit because it is not a permanent installation – and the poster is copyrighted. TZM de:T/T C 19:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg CommentI have contacted the uploader on the German Wikipedia. Please stand by ;-) --ALE! ¿…? 09:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
The user was not active on the German Wikipedia since May 15th, 2006. So in doubt: Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --ALE! ¿…? 15:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. Angr 09:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Mädchen verkauft Holzkohle.jpg

Auch dieses Bild verletzt die Persönlichkeitsrechte der abgebildeten Person, da keine Zustimmung zur Veröffentlichung vorliegt. 82.207.204.235 16:20, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Bildnisse dürfen nur mit Einwilligung des Abgebildeten verbreitet oder öffentlich zur Schau gestellt werden und das ist auch gut so! Die Genehmigung liegt mündlich vor. Beachtet bitte jedoch auch § 22 KUG: Die Einwilligung gilt im Zweifel als erteilt, wenn der Abgebildete dafür, daß er sich abbilden ließ, eine Entlohnung erhielt. Die Entlohnung für das Einverständnis hält das Model auf dem Foto noch in der Hand! --Kolumbusjogger 17:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Zumindest in DE könne Minderjährigen solchen Vereinbarungen nicht rechtskräftig zustimmen, dafür ist die Einwilligung der Eltern erforderlich. Insbesondere bei Fotos von Kindern bin ich für strikte Zurückhaltung und würde nichts akzeptieren, wo die Einwilligung nicht schriftlich im OTRS vorliegt.--Wiggum 10:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
offensichtlich wurde das Foto nicht in Deutschland gemacht, deswegen kann hier ja wohl keine deutsche Sonderregelung anwendung finden. -- Gorgo 16:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --Kolumbusjogger 11:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep -- Ranveig 09:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep, correctly licensed. Commons policy does not cover personality rights for either adults or children. Angr 08:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep seems fine to me since she was paid for it. (according to the author) -- Gorgo 16:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
kept--Shizhao 08:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Haapaveden vaakuna.png

Unused and superseded by Haapavesi.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 13:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The .svg image does not respect the original colors (additional colors : “darkgolden rod” and “dimgray”, which do not exist in heraldry !!). --Juiced lemon 14:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I think my drawing matches better finnish description, png misses golden pins. It also matches better for kunnat.net version: http://www.kunnat.net/k_perussivu.asp?path=1;29;102942;486;84531;84541 --Tomia 17:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Your version differs from the kunnet.net version :
  1. the axe of the wheel is azur (silver)
  2. the leaves nervures have 2 side branches (4 side branches).
I notice also that, in the previous version of the image (png), the nervures were black, different on each leaf. --Juiced lemon 12:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The two images both look good and are sufficeintly different to warrent the existence of both. The only incorrect thing seems to be the pins in the png which should be gold. /Lokal_Profil 19:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

kept--Shizhao 11:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Images tagged with OAS & RIGIS license tags

Months ago I started the discussion Commons talk:Licensing/Review of license templates#List of templates in question (Moved here from Commons:Deletion requests). Template:Agência Brasil has been resolved, they adopted a clear Creative Commons statement on their website. That's great and was done very well. There are dozens of probably nonderivative and/or noncommercial licenses left however, including such blatantly policy breaking ones such as

  • Template:OAS: "Users may download, copy and reprint information from the site for non-commercial purposes so long as the GS/OAS is cited as the source of the originating material, however, they may not resell, redistribute, or create derivative works absent the express written permission of GS/OAS."[31]
  • Template:RIGIS: "Prohibited Use -- Unauthorized Distribution. Any sale, distribution, loan, or offering for use of RIGIS digital data, in whole or in part, is prohibited without the approval of the Licensor."[32]

These have constantly been ignored and now silently been moved to the archive. I think there has been enough time now to resolve the situation and show ANY progess for the rest of these templates, so I request again to delete the images associated with these templates (except those tagged Template:Agência Brasil). --Rtc 00:26, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


  • Deleted both tags and their associated images:

OAS:

  1. Image:OEA Paniagua 1.jpg
  2. Image:OEA Paniagua.jpg
  3. Image:OEA Gaviria Toledo.jpg
  4. Image:Eduardo Montealegre.jpg
  5. Image:CostaRica.MiguelAngelRodriguez.02.jpg
  6. Image:José Miguel Insulza.jpg
  7. Image:Chile.JoseMiguel.Insulza.01.jpg
  8. Image:Insulza elected OAS Secretary General.jpg
  9. Image:OAS Secretary General election 2005.jpg
  10. Image:Jorge Batlle 01.jpg
  11. Image:Enrique V Iglesias.jpg
  12. Image:Argentina.FdoDelaRua.01.jpg
  13. Image:EnriqueBolanos.JPG

RIGIS:

  1. Image:RI State Highways base.png
  2. Image:Meshanticut Interchange.jpg
  3. Image:I-95 RI exit 27.jpg
  4. Image:RI 10 at RI 2.jpg
  5. Image:RI towns labeled.png
  6. Image:RI towns Tiverton.png
  7. Image:RI towns North Kingstown.png
  8. Image:RI towns Scituate.png
  9. Image:RI towns Foster.png
  10. Image:RI towns Burrillville.png
  11. Image:RI towns Glocester.png
  12. Image:RI towns Smithfield.png
  13. Image:RI towns North Smithfield.png
  14. Image:RI towns Woonsocket.png
  15. Image:RI towns Lincoln.png
  16. Image:RI towns Cumberland.png
  17. Image:RI towns New Shoreham.png
  18. Image:RI towns Central Falls.png
  19. Image:RI towns North Providence.png
  20. Image:RI towns Johnston.png
  21. Image:RI towns Cranston.png
  22. Image:RI towns Pawtucket.png
  23. Image:RI towns Providence.png
  24. Image:RI towns East Providence.png
  25. Image:RI towns Exeter.png
  26. Image:RI towns Richmond.png
  27. Image:RI towns Hopkinton.png
  28. Image:RI towns Westerly.png
  29. Image:RI towns Charlestown.png
  30. Image:RI towns South Kingstown.png
  31. Image:RI towns Narragansett.png
  32. Image:RI towns Jamestown.png
  33. Image:RI towns Newport.png
  34. Image:RI towns Little Compton.png
  35. Image:RI towns Middletown.png
  36. Image:RI towns Portsmouth.png
  37. Image:RI towns Bristol.png
  38. Image:RI towns Warren.png
  39. Image:RI towns Barrington.png
  40. Image:RI towns Warwick.png
  41. Image:RI towns East Greenwich.png
  42. Image:RI towns West Greenwich.png
  43. Image:RI towns Coventry.png
  44. Image:RI towns West Warwick.png
  45. Image:RI towns.png

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[edit] Image:Lebensversicherung1929 oenb aus reichspost.png

The uploader doesn't seem to be the author – see original description ("Author:Scan") =>no licence =>delete--Hannes2·wp 20:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • The document is 83 years old though. It may be PD-old. — Erin (talk) 00:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep --- gildemax 20:50, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep it's ineligible for copyright. Tagged as PD-ineligible. --Rtc 03:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • delete - der Autor ist nicht sicher 70 Jahre tot --> URV 217.88.173.176 12:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
  • What is the status of newspapers from Austria in 1929? -- Infrogmation 21:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete It is as eligible for copyright as any other written text (song, poem, book, etc.). PD cannot be proved. Angr 10:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted as per Angr / Fred Chess 09:14, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Geese 2.jpg

REASON: This file is unused and unnecessary. --Wsiegmund 23:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Branta_canadensis has 40 images, most better than this one. This low resolution image, illuminated from behind, doesn't depict distinguishing features well, and has an unnatural appearing background. -Wsiegmund 23:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Low-quality image of subject for which we have many excellent images. — Erin (talk) 00:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom Rklawton 05:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep It illustrates goose behaviour, is fairly good and the license is fine. Why on Earth waste our time deleting it? -- Ranveig 12:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep per Ranveig -- Arvind 12:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
    Please, please, please could people accept quality as a criterion, and not just copyright status? We have several superior images, some of which I think are even of the same individual goose.the preceding unsigned comment is by Erin Silversmith (talk • contribs)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete-I agree with Erin. This particular image is not very good at all, Image:Geese 3.jpg shows the same goose doing much the same thing and is a much better picture.--Nilfanion 12:24, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I don't object to deleting particularly bad images, but see no reason to delete a free licence image for the sole reason that we also have other different better images related to the subject. Undistinguished but not bad image, of possible use. -- Infrogmation 21:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


Kept, it is not universally accepted that quality alone is a criterion for deletion. Since several people oppose deletion we can keep it without harming anything or anyone. pfctdayelise (translate?) 02:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Gemini-Logo-B.png

I make this work, it's based on this public domain NASA pic hosting at commons, the pic is about a NASA emblem but reading the guidelines regarding the use of NASA material i found this point:
"12. NASA emblems should be reproduced only from original reproduction proofs, transparencies, or computer files available from NASA Headquarters. Please be advised that approval must be granted by the Public Services Division (see above) before any reproduction materials can be obtained.".

Should i delete my image?, isn't any image at commons able to be modified?. sorry for write my question here but i dont know another place to put it. --Martin Rizzo 04:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

"should"-rules can be ignored there is nothing legally binding to them. --ALE! ¿…? 07:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

kept and changed the license to {{PD-NASA}} --ALE! ¿…? 07:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Alberto 2006 track2.png

Essentially a duplicate of Image:Alberto 2006 track.png, but it is not a byte-for-byte copy. It is 3 times larger than the other image and seems broken. In addition it is out of date.--Nilfanion 14:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted. File appears to contain some error. — Erin (talk) 14:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Taipei_MRT_Taipei_Zoo%E2%80%8E_Station.JPG

Image name error! It should be Image:Taipei_MRT_Taipei_Zoo_Station.JPG(Do not remove this one) but it became "Image:Taipei_MRT_Taipei_Zoo%E2%80%8E_Station.JPG". -Jiahwang 15:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


  • Deleted. You can use {{badname}} instead. -Samulili 19:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Couric_today.png

Screenshot of a copyright TV program. William Avery 16:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted. — Erin (talk) 16:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Bride underneath veil.jpg

Ruth Elisson is not author but the bride and this image is not licensed under free licesnse.

  • I contacted Ruth Elisson on Flickr when this photo was put there, because I wanted this images on my webpage. I found that the author is professional photographer who did not released it on free license. I was really disapointed but it should be deleted here as well... :( -A.J. 09:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Sigh. Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. *grumbles* Flickr users are stupid... pfctdayelise (translate?) 12:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteErin (talk) 15:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted (license on Flickr is "© All rights reserved" [33]) --ALE! 23:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Beijing2008GamesOverlogo.jpg

Its copyright tag GNU-FDL is not correct. It is a logo and copyrighted, in addition I don't think, that the author had drawn it themselve. Cottbus 10:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted by User:Flominator --ALE! 22:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:1999-Mai-Kampfanzug.JPG

"autor: unbekannt" --Rtc 18:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Author unknown for an image only 7 years old? It can never be correctly licensed then, especially since we can never know whether the subject consented either. It is also a low-quality pic. Speedy deleted. — Erin (talk) 02:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Gosia Subocz.jpg

  • "Private image collections and the like are generally not wanted. Wikimedia Commons is no web hoster for e.g. private party photos, self created artwork without educational purpose and such."
  • No consent from the person on the photo.

-Samulili 19:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleted - private photo, no consent, not used, love letter in description. Shaqspeare 12:06, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Hartley Shawcross.jpg

Tagged with the generic PD-tag. Moved from en.wp, where it is now tagged as fair use. From the book "The Trial of William Joyce" (Jarrolds Publishers, 1946), thus not PD. Kjetil_r 23:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete fairuse. — Erin (talk) 00:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete situation is unambiguous. Tagged as {{fairuse}}.--Rtc 00:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Raymond de --ALE! 22:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kobe bryant.jpg

Probably was not created by user. Can be found on several sites by entering "Kobe bryant" into Google image search. --Punctured Bicycle 14:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete PD-release probably bogus. — Erin (talk) 14:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Raymond de --ALE! 20:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:12345.jpg

"Wikimedia Commons is no web hoster for e.g. private party photos, self created artwork without educational purpose and such." NB. the uploader is not this de:Anna Schramm. -Samulili 16:03, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete I agree — Erin (talk) 16:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. — Erin (talk) 04:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kempele CoatOfArms.png

Unused and superseded by Kempele.vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 16:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Superseded. — Erin (talk) 16:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Superseded. --Tomia 23:32, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Inserting a brick in a wall space.jpg

The US Navy is unclear, the source site looks like a doorway. --Panther 07:03, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete This is a totally pointless image. — Erin (talk) 08:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
    OK, I vote neutral if you say this is useful. — Erin (talk) 07:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as nominator. --Panther 10:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
    Neutral per Erin. --Panther 07:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep This image is being used in a wikibooks module that I am writing. The chapter provides instruction for laying brick, and this is illustration shows how to perform one of the steps in the process. It is not pointless. The source site is an aggregator of miltary instruction manuals (which they reprint and sell), but the manual itself was produced by the U.S. Navy, and is in the public domain. As far as I know, the Navy does not publish this material online. Is it is better to not list the URL where the image is found? - Jomegat 17:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC).
    • Add the source (does it have an ISBN?) to the description, I think that will make a difference. -Samulili 18:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
      • OK, no ISBN, but I found several other places that provide the same document, all of which identify it as a U.S. Navy publication, document id "NAVEDTRA 14043", with a title of "Builder 3 & 2, Volume 1." I have entered all of this in the information template, and I hope that's sufficient to establish its pedigree. -- Jomegat 03:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep NAVEDTRA books don't normally have ISBN. The ones I've seen have stock numbers on them and the PD ones all say Distribution Statement:Approved for public release, though some of the rates have confidential books, the vast majority are PD. If its on tpub it was a publicly released book. You can also find them for sale all over the place. I've seen some of the electronics ones republished at a local chain bookstores. Several years ago you could download them from public Navy servers, but that has been discontinued (I don't know why). They are also available at the Government Printing Office.[34] No ISBN listed there either. Slap a {{PD-USGov-Military-Navy}} on it and call it a day. --Dual Freq 01:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

kept --ALE! 10:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Forten rond utrecht the Netherlands.jpg

Duplicate png file uploaded. I already changed the links referring to this image. NielsB 07:30, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! 20:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Graafinen kuva.jpg

I have no idea what this is. It's dates of August on certain years and then there are something ranging from 0 to 160. It's not used anywhere so there's no way to tell. -Samulili 19:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete unless the uploader can explain some use for this image. — Erin (talk) 03:02, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The uploader was active on Commons after the deletion request and did not come here to explain a possible use of the file. --ALE! 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:Infrogmation --ALE! ¿…? 09:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Button.gif

Its copyright tag is PD-too trivial, but I disagree. I think I can read "Design Group" in small letters and image is probably copyrighted. Conscious 07:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The text around the edge looks like © SF Design Group 1977 to me.--Nilfanion 16:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Deleted Clearly copyrighted; bad tag. -- Infrogmation 21:39, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Gub Brad Henry.gif

work from a US state -- ~Pyb 17:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 09:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Dave heineman.jpg

Work from an US state -- ~Pyb 17:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 09:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Scania huvudkontor Södertälje.jpg

The copyright holder of this picture is almost certainly the Scania company, as the photograper, Carl-Erik Andersson, is/was employed by them and obviously took this picture as part of his work. As Scania hasn't declared that any other of their pictures can be freely used, I doubt very much that they would have applied such a rule for this specific picture. Thomas Blomberg 11:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Could be. Furthermore, there is no evidence that "The copyright holder of this file allows anyone to use it for any purpose". -Samulili 16:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Even if the photographer is employed by Scania HE is still holds the copyright. Whether he "allows anyone to use..." seems to be unclear however. And even if he is the uploder EU law requires {{attribution}} /Lokal_Profil 23:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Looks like a bogus licence. — Erin (talk) 03:11, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete I agree with Erin. --Dodo 16:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment pleae wait. I just notified the user. / Fred Chess 18:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Deleted / Fred Chess 14:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Skull- AUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAU.JPG

I have no idea what this is ("Wikimedia Commons is no web hoster for e.g. private party photos, self created artwork without educational purpose and such.") and judging by the resolution, it doesn't seem to be own work. -Samulili 15:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

It's a stamp from a nazi related organization. I put {{Nazi symbol}} in there. --Rtc 00:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Crappy image. Two stamps superimposed over something else, obscuring it. What is the point of this image? There is so little info. If the uploader really possesses these objects, he can create a better image. If he doesn't, then this is probably a copyvio. — Erin (talk) 02:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I guess the thing in the background is the stamp as a whole, the lower left is its head with the engraved seal, and the lower right is the result when applied to ink and paper. The text of the seal reads "Konzentrationslager Auschwitz-Birkenau". The skull is one of the SS-Totenkopfverbände skull variants. --Rtc 03:02, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Rtc is right. This picture needs explanation but it think we should keep it.--Wiggum 10:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep It's not a matter of urgency. We may wait for better images. --Juiced lemon 13:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


kept --ALE! ¿…? 13:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Albanians nazikos.jpg

The image was uploaded on 10 March 2006. The source URL leads to a notice "© KIM Info-Service, Serbian Orthodox Church". The uploader has never specified any license.--Jusjih 02:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


No licence at all. Speedy deleted. — Erin (talk) 02:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Birendra2.jpg

No source. Image has been deleted on English Wikipedia. -- Arcimboldo 03:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


If Wikipedia has deleted it for having no source info, we with our even stricter rules should speedy delete it. — Erin (talk) 04:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Actual sizess.JPG

Another self-made Penis pic we do really not need as we already have enough better quality pics. See Penis for more. --Denniss 07:19, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete What a crap pic. — Erin (talk) 08:11, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted by User:WarX --ALE! 22:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Commodore Barry Bridge.png

"no copyright stated" --Rtc 01:10, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Image:The value of opinions.jpg

The caption makes the picture useless. With it, I see no possible use for any wikimedia project, let alone encyclopedic use. It is not used anywhere, anyway. Commons is not a webspace provider for private use. --AndreasPraefcke 08:55, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. Borderline vandalism. — Erin (talk) 13:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Dear Erin,

This is the wikipedia definition of vandalism: Vandalism is the conspicuous defacement or destruction of a structure or symbol against the will of the owner/governing body.

So, by definition, I disagree with your reason. However, I agree with AndreasPraefcke. As the uloader I request that the image be deleted.

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --Tomascastelazo 13:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


  • Deleted per uploader request. NielsF 02:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:PE05654 .gif

On the source web page it says "Copyright © 1999-2000 Bicycling Life Website", GPL seems a bit odd as a license for this image. --Matt314 22:15, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Let me guess what he wants to say: He took a screenshot while the picture was displayed in a GPL licensed browser? --Rtc 03:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Obvious copyvio and not very good image. Speedied. — Erin (talk) 04:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:NES 2.jpg

It´s nothing to see on this image. It´s very dark. --GeorgHH 14:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Terrible image. — Erin (talk) 04:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom; possibly a logo violation. --Bigtop 07:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 15:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Odkb.png

Unknown copyright status. --Hautala 13:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The uploader wrote an email a month ago to clearify the copyright status. As there is no new information: Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --ALE! 07:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm the uploader of this image, and indeed i've requsted the permission for this logo. Unfortunately i still have no reply from them, so i guess it should be deleted... --Redline 10:57, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 11:53, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:OAS

The copyright claim of this template is bogus. All images, tagged this way, have to be deleted immediately. In their Terms of Use at http://www.oas.org/documents/eng/disclaimer.asp OAS writes:

Users may download, copy and reprint information from the site for non-commercial purposes so long as the GS/OAS is cited as the source of the originating material, however, they may not resell, redistribute, or create derivative works absent the express written permission of GS/OAS.

--h-stt !? 10:15, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
We already have a pending deletionrequest for this template, please see Template:Deletion_requests#Lots_of_pictures_(again) (July 20).--Wiggum 10:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
IIRC, when I created the template I followed the terms of http://www.oas.org/documents/eng/photo_main.asp. Now, checking it again, it states "Photographs of official events are available through OAS website and can be used, free of charge, as long as the source is acknowledged". Of course, free as in beer isn't free as in free speech; I can't really say if their terms have changed or I misread them the first time around. Taragüí @ 16:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

this is a duplicate discussion of Template:Deletion_requests#Lots_of_pictures_(again) and is therefore being closed. Please look above. --ALE! 15:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Viaduc de Millau par Filip42 sur Flickr (3).jpg

It's impossible to put an image under public domain on Flickr and the true license is CC-NC-SA -- ~Pyb 10:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I can not finde the image on flickr. Could you provide the link? --ALE! ¿…? 21:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The flickr image is here.--Nilfanion 16:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete, noncommercial licence.--Nilfanion 16:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Fountian.jpg

REASON: No freedom of panorama for art works within the USA. William Avery 14:13, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

What does that mean? 24.52.28.34 15:20, 22 July 2006 (UTC)photographer

Whos permission do i need for this to be okay to use for the city's wiki entry?

You need the permission of the artist who created the sculpture... --Stefan-Xp 16:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not a sculpture it's a fountain.

In this case you'll need the permission of the Creator of the Fountian. --Stefan-Xp 16:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Delete it for now, I'll see what i can do about finding the creator and obtaining permission. What sort of Documentation will to need to verify the legitimacy of the authorization?


Deleted — Erin (talk) 11:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Henny Eman statue.jpg

I uploaded this photograph of a statue in Oranjestad, Aruba. It later occurred to me that this might be a derivative work of the statue itself, and so the photograph may be a violation of the copyright of the sculptor. I would prefer that this image remain available on the Commons if there is no legal problem, but I decided to nominate it for deletion to bring this possible problem to others' attention. —Bkell (talk) 10:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

According to w:Politics_of_Aruba Aruba law is based on the Netherlands, which Commons:Derivative_works says is negative on freedom of panorama. William Avery 18:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. —Bkell (talk) 00:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: Dutch copyright law clearly states in article 18 of the copyright law of 1912:

Als inbreuk op het auteursrecht op een werk als bedoeld in artikel 10, eerste lid, onder 6°, of op een werk, betrekkelijk tot de bouwkunde als bedoeld in artikel 10, eerste lid, onder 8°, dat is gemaakt om permanent in openbare plaatsen te worden geplaatst, wordt niet beschouwd de verveelvoudiging of openbaarmaking van afbeeldingen van het werk zoals het zich aldaar bevindt. Waar het betreft het overnemen in een compilatiewerk, mag van dezelfde maker niet meer worden overgenomen dan enkele van zijn werken.

--> rough translation: if a work meant in article 10, eerste lid, 6° (first paragraph, 6°)(drawings, paintings, sculptures, buildings etc.) is made to be permanently installed in a public space, reproduction and publishing of pictures of the work as it is to be seen in public space isn't an infraction of copyright. AFAIK this law applies to the whole Kingdom of the Netherlands. Maybe commons:derivative works needs updating. However, I don't know if it being no infraction upon copyright in the Kingdom of the Netherlands means it's good enough for Commons. NielsF 00:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
So does that mean that the Netherlands does have freedom of panorama, in spite of what is said at Commons:Derivative works? —Bkell (talk) 21:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, never mind, I see that the list has been changed. —Bkell (talk) 21:28, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

What the devil is this for an outdated law. There is evidence that NL has no Panoramafreiheit citing the modern law at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Alx/Sandbox#The_Netherlands --Historiograf 00:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Not anymore ;-). The current version of the law is what I stated above, which is from wetten.nl, Dutch goverment website, and http://www.ivir.nl/wetten/nl/auteurswet_01_04_2006.html, a website of the University of Amsterdam. NielsF 00:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
PS: I've tried to find out where this change happened, but couldn't find it. I however suspect that it occured when Dutch copyright law was harmonised with the EU directives. The WIPO unfortunately only has an English version of 1972!!! NielsF 00:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It was in 2004. Give a proof that not only buildings are relevant and do not revert Alx/Sandbox without proof. I have quoted the Dutch version there --Historiograf 22:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't read Dutch, so I'm basing all of what I'm about to say on Babel Fish translations. The relevant portion of [35] that you posted at Alx/Sandbox seems to say that it applies to works as meant in Article 10, first paragraph, under 6°, and also engineering works (does this mean buildings?) as meant in as meant in Article 10, first paragraph, under 8°. Now, 6° says "teeken-, schilder-, bouw- en beeldhouwwerken, lithografieën, graveer- en andere plaatwerken", which I guess means "Works of teeken (photographers?), painters, constructors (artists?), and sculptors; lithographs, engravings, and other platework". So it would seem that what you posted applies not only to buildings but to forms of art as well. Of course, I need a Dutch speaker to confirm that these shaky translations are correct. —Bkell (talk) 23:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, teeken clearly does not mean photographer, as photographic works are covered in 9°. I just realized that I'm sitting in a library right by the foreign language section, so I picked up a Dutch–English dictionary, but it doesn't seem to list teeken. It does confirm that bouw means a building, construction, or erection; I'm not sure why I guessed that meant artist. I guess I don't trust Babel Fish enough. —Bkell (talk) 23:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I've updated User:Alx/Sandbox with a more accurate translation. Bkell is correct in his assumption. Article 18 refers to the reproduction or publishing of depictions (aka photographs, drawings) of a work as meant in article 16, first paragraph, 6° and 8°. Teekenwerken = drawings, Schilderwerken = paintings, Bouwwerken = architectural ("building") works, Beeldhouwwerken = sculptures and so on and so on. NielsF 00:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
PS: you probably couldn't find teeken because it's old spelling, it's now spelled as teken. Check under tekenen (infinitive). NielsF 00:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
And for those of us who don't speak Dutch: is there freedom to use pictures of statues and buildings. Is Aruba law the same as Netherlands? It looked like a separate dominion to me. William Avery 01:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Learn it ;-). On a serious note: Aruban and Netherlands Antillean law is sometimes slightly different from European Netherlands law. However Aruban and/or Netherlands Antillean law isn't available on the internet afaik. The only thing I know is that changes to the Dutch law because of EU Copyright Directive 2001/29 where also submitted to Aruban and/or Netherland Antillean parliaments, so in good faith I have no reason to doubt that the aforementionted text doesn't apply to those areas. In the statute of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, in article 39 it's also mentioned that: Het burgerlijk en handelsrecht, de burgerlijke rechtsvordering, het strafrecht, de strafvordering, het auteursrecht, de industriële eigendom, het notarisambt, zomede bepalingen omtrent maten en gewichten worden in Nederland, de Nederlandse Antillen en Aruba zoveel mogelijk op overeenkomstige wijze geregeld. Rough translation: "the civil and commercial law, civil claims, criminal law, criminal claims, copyright, industrial property, notary law, as well as decisions about sizes and weights, will be regulated in the same way as much is possible in the Netherlands, the Netherlands Antilles, and Aruba."
I'll try to get hold of a Dutch law expert, but don't get your hopes up. NielsF 02:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Kept. Until there is a proof that in Aruba (dependency of the Netherlands) there does not apply Freedom of Panorama as in the Netherlands. Arnomane 19:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:RIGIS

This copyright template is bogus. RIGIS publishes their maps under a strict noncommercial licence, as seen in their License Agreement at: http://www.edc.uri.edu/rigis-spf/license.html

1.4 Prohibited Use -- Unauthorized Distribution. Any sale, distribution, loan, or offering for use of RIGIS digital data, in whole or in part, is prohibited without the approval of the Licensor.

The template as well as all images tagged that way have to be deleted. --h-stt !? 10:24, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

We already have a pending deletionrequest for this template, please see Template:Deletion_requests#Lots_of_pictures_(again) (July 20).--Wiggum 10:38, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
This is for the actual GIS data. Maps derived from such data are however not covered by that, but by a separate license. What RIGIS publishes is files that contain definitions of geographic features. From that, one can make maps like Image:RI towns West Warwick.png. RIGIS did not create the map. --SPUI 18:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
What separate license? You link is the same as the one at the top, and states in sect 1.4 that distribution is not permitted. -- Duesentrieb(?!) 13:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
"Graphic displays and printed tabular listings derived from RIGIS data may be used in publications and presentations, provided that credit is given to RIGIS as the source of the information or that notice of copyright [(c) 1990 RIGIS] be shown." --SPUI 03:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Oops, I missed that. Seems OK to me, then. The template should quote that in full, though, to avoid confusion. -- Duesentrieb(?!) 09:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
No! It's not a free license, it is about "in publications and presentations", a pure press license. I cannot use the displays and tabular listings and convert them back to data and sell the result on its own. --Rtc 09:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
That would be a publication. --SPUI 10:34, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

"may be used in publications and presentations, provided that credit is given to RIGIS" doesn't sound like "commercial use and derivative works are allowed" to me... --Dodo 16:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

But not arbitrary commercial use and derivative works, but only appropriately in the context of publications and presentations. --Rtc 16:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Live and rare.jpg

Album cover. --Edub 13:36, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete tagged as copyvio. --Rtc 16:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Speedied. NielsF 16:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Nine Inch Nails - And All That Could Have Been (DVD).jpeg

Taking a photo of a DVD cover does not change that the DVD cover is probably copyrighted, Commons:Derivative works. Kotepho 19:40, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Tagged as {{copyvio}} --Rtc 19:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Changed to {{derivative}}. Clear copyvio, should be a speedy delete. Kjetil_r 20:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Are you not an admin...? pfctdayelise (translate?) 23:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Even worse: the uploader is one as well. NielsF 23:33, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Deleted as copyvio (the article Nine Inch Nails as well). NielsF 23:33, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:HereTohelp.png, Image:HereToHelp2.png, Image:HereToHelp3.png

Self-made usercruft that I'm having deleted (unused, wastes server space).--HereToHelp (talk) 23:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


  • Deleted as per uploader request. NielsF 23:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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"Private image collections and the like are generally not wanted." This image is not used on a user page. -Samulili 07:55, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete unused personal pic — Erin (talk) 10:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per Erin. Serves no purpose here. - Tangotango 16:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep -- I just added this to Goatee. Could easily be used in an article showing early facial hair growth or facial hair styles. Jkelly 21:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
deleted--Shizhao 12:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Arthur Ravenel, Jr..jpg

Poor quality, questionable license, possible copyvio ripped from the forum of a news website. --Dual Freq 19:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete I agree. — Erin (talk) 05:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --GeorgHH 22:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Tolkien ring.jpg

From the image talk page at en.wp: "I don't think this should be on Commons or tagged as GFDL, being a derivative work from works of the Tolkien estate, Warner Bros. and related." -- pfctdayelise (translate?) 23:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Obviously contains copyrighted elements that WB and the Tolkien estate would never release. Deleted. — Erin (talk) 00:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


I moved this from my talk pageErin (talk) 23:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi. In reference to this, what elements did you feel were copyrighted? While I did not verify that the uploader had really created the image in the way he stated, it seemed to me that if his claims were true it would be a 'GFDL valid' image. However, I know more about Tolkien than I do about copyright so I might have missed something.

The Tolkien estate has never published a 'detailed' image of the Ring. Early hard-cover versions of the book showed a simple circle, which was meant to represent the Ring, with other elements around it (the eye of Sauron inside the circle, the inscription coiled around the outside of the circle, and the ring Narya above it in symbolic opposition). The Tolkien estate has never exerted copyright over Ring images because (again, my understanding) copyright over a written description does not extend to visual representations of the thing described... and a painting/drawing/whatever of a golden ring with inscriptions on the inside and outside of the band, as Tolkien wrote about, can't be considered a 'derivative work' of a simple geometric circle with a similar inscription around it, as Tolkien drew.

The Ring was then famous and extensively illustrated for nearly fifty years before New Line (a different subsidiary of Time Warner than WB) came up with a version for their movies and merchandizing (which were done in conjunction with 'Tolkien Enterprises', a company with no connection to the 'Tolkien estate'). Again, my understanding has been that you can't exert copyright over something which has been used extensively for years before you did so.

If there are copyright violations in the image then it shouldn't be on Commons, but given the history I didn't think copyright would apply. --CBDunkerson 11:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure. Let's hear others' opinions. — Erin (talk) 23:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Isn't the background a screenshot from the film or something like that? Isn't the inscription and the script it is in an original work of Tolkien not in the public domain? — Erin (talk) 01:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Erin, thanks for re-opening this for discussion. Let's go over the elements one at a time.
  1. Ring - First, it seems I mis-remembered the content while it was deleted - this Ring doesn't show the inscription on it, which makes that part of the image just a plain gold ring like billions of others. The description page states that this was computer generated and it is definitely not the Ring image used by New Line.
  2. Background - This is said to be a computer generated landscape.
  3. Latin text - In the lower right corner is a fragment of the inscription on the Ring transliterated to the modern Latin alphabet ('Ash Nazg...'). The full Latin text of this inscription was included in Tolkien's Lord of the Rings as two lines in a standard italic font.
  4. Runes - Across the top and bottom are Anglo-saxon runes, from which Tolkien derived his Cirth lettering. Offhand they don't appear to 'say' anything but there are numerous different modes I'd have to review to verify that. Many of Tolkien's books have been published with Cirth on the top and/or bottom of the cover page similar to this but giving the title, author, and other information.
  5. Tengwar - The 'arch' of characters are the full Ring inscription in a Tengwar font. This is somewhat similar to Tolkien's proposed cover art for the first volume, viewable here, which was used in modified form (reduced to one color and the rings at lower left and right removed) as the original cover for all three volumes. Careful study will show numerous minor differences in the text (lower left of image under consideration should correspond to upper right of Tolkien's). A few minor variations on this (ring at top pointing the other way, Tolkien's original art with all three rings, slightly different Tengwar lettering, et cetera) have been released over the years, but none matching the image under discussion.
Based on this I'd say the image contains nothing which is directly copied from Tolkien or New Line and the only area for possible concern would be 'derivative work'. Even there only the Tengwar and Latin ring inscriptions seem to be possible issues, but I didn't think the mere use of particular symbols/words qualified something as 'derivative' - especially if they are shown differently and used in a unique combination with other elements. Finally, note that Tengwar was entirely Tolkien's invention, but again I didn't think that use of a script could be copyrighted. --CBDunkerson 12:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
That's a pretty good analysis, convinces me. Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I think we're afraid this image must be a copyvio simply because it looks so professional! pfctdayelise (translate?) 13:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The background is copyrighted work by Markus Gann, see: http://www.begann.de/pic/terr12/lava2004.html and http://www.begann.de/startbig.html --ALE! 15:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Doh! All that and the acknowledged source which has nothing to do with Tolkien turns out to be copyrighted. Oh well. In which case several other images by the same user incorporating computer generated landscapes here are likely suspect. --CBDunkerson 20:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete It's double-copvio. copyrighted background was used and it's clearly a derivative work of Tolkien, because the overall composition of the scene has deliberately been derived from the movie. CBDunkerson is wrong. --Rtc 20:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't disagree with the delete, based on the background, but I don't recall an instance of the Ring 'floating' with tengwar lettering around it, or anything remotely similar, anywhere in the movies. What scene are you referring to? --CBDunkerson 11:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
derivative work includes much more than simply copying or look-a-likes. Copyright protects the creative elements, not some specific instance of them. There is a very specific ring. Of course rings as such can't be copyrighted. But specific rings tied closely to a protected work can. It depends on the context. Suggesting that an arbitrary ring is exactly Tolkien's ring is already a derivative work and a copyright violation. And this picture's very purpose is to make this suggestion! --Rtc 18:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Peter Jackon didn't create the Middle Earth. The rights to make films don't grant you to control all images about the world of Tolkien. --Juiced lemon 12:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Right, it's Tolkien's copyright too, not only Jackson's. That however hardly makes a difference concering the outcome. --Rtc 18:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
The differences are:
  1. the Tolkien's novel will be sooner in the public domain
  2. the background of this image does not match the Tolkiens's descriptions
--Juiced lemon 22:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Which is more or less irrelevant concerning the outcome that the picture is a copyright violation. --Rtc 22:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Hrrm? Are you saying that once Tolkien writes about a golden ring anyone making paintings, drawings, photographs, computer images, actual rings, et cetera meant to represent that ring is infringing on his copyright unless they get permission? That was not my understanding of 'derivative works', but if true... wouldn't that make all artistic representations of characters/things from books copyright violations? There are numerous examples of such on Commons; [36] [37] [38] [39]. Are these and dozens of others like them all copyvios? We've got entire categories for images like these. --CBDunkerson 13:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Stricly speaking, yes, I am saying that. And the pictures you refer to are clearly all copyright violations. Basically all fan art is copyright violation, it is merely tolerated by the copyright owner. Rarely, fan art may be fair use (parodies) but that's against policy here. --Rtc 18:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The 'derivative works' aspect of copyright gives me a headache, but the background is a (non-Tolkien/New Line) copyvio in any case. --CBDunkerson 14:13, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

deleted--Shizhao 12:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Bruno Platter.jpg

I do not believe that the autor on en did the image himself; see this website. the talkpage of the user shows an other copy right problem ...Sicherlich Post 23:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC) - how is it on de? changing the tag to fair use? I'm not familiar with that

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Suspect release. — Erin (talk) 02:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --GeorgHH 22:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Dynamite.jpg

From en.wp: "This appears to be an Oregon State Gov't photo, not federal." -- pfctdayelise (translate?) 23:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete--GeorgHH 22:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete work of state government and not of the US federal gov.. --ALE! 12:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

deleted--Shizhao 15:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:Halibutt Copyright GFDL

(this refers only to the template, not the pictures. these can be changed to the standard GFDL template plus appropriate copyright notices) (only if the author agreed, I guess - Halibutt)

Let's avoid that it becomes a habit that commons users make their private license templates and please let's be clear about one point: You may not add further restrictions to the GFDL. This may be little known, but please understand the following trick the FSF has done to ensure you do not do this:

  • The GFDL requires itself to be part of any work in which it is used
  • The GFDL itself is copyrighted. " Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. [...]"
  • The GFDL states "changing it is not allowed."

And that also excludes indirect changing by reference. You may thus not add additional restictions to the GFDL. Why does the FSF do that? They do not want you to say "it uses a GNU license" when you added restrictions that the FSF does not approve of. So while you as the author are not bound to the GFDL in that you can dual-license your work under a different license, you are very well bound to certain restrictions for the usage of the GFDL itself, since the FSF does only allow the license to be printed under aforementioned conditions.

The attribution you want is already ensured by the GFDL. Make a section 'copyright notices' on the image description page and add your desired credit there. --Rtc 05:03, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

  • What additional restriction you're talking about? I can't see any... A.J. 18:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
    • "Under moral rights the user requires that this work be properly attributed to its creator. For photographs, this is traditionally done in the image caption. Where a copyright notice is present, using the copyright notice in the caption will be sufficient." Where the original license merely requires copyright notices to be kept, Halibutt additionally demands the author to be credited under all possible circumstances, even if no copyright notice is present. He also adds a strong rationale for how he would like the license to be interpreted, ie. where copyright notices have to be placed in his opinion. It's essentially the conjunction of something-like-CC-by and GFDL, but these licenses are not compatible. . --Rtc 18:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
      • I don't see it that way: it's just an little more explanation for what "attribution" means and what forms of attribution are prefered by Halibutt, thats all... Is it really against GFDL? A.J. 10:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
First of all, this is not a modified GFDL. In fact it is my personal license, with GFDL added to it. So it's not adding further restrictions to GFDL, it's adding the restrictions of the GFDL to Halibutt's copyright license. The GFDL itself requires attribution, but it does not specify that - and people usually violate that part anyway (believe me, some of my pics published under GFDL were even published in newspapers without any source credited, not even the English wiki where I uploaded them). That's why I'm releasing all my pics under my own personal license, which in itself is compliant with the GFDL, with the exception of the disclaimer. As A.J. put it, it's merely my explanation of what I mean by attribution - an explanation that is lacking in plain GFDL. As is explicitly said, if anyone wanted me to, I could release my pics under PD, CC-by or any other license as well, so it's not a problem. However, all I need is credit, for the rest plain GFDL is enough.
Now then, I would not agree to release all my work under plain GFDL as long as it's violated as often as it is. I demand nothing more than already is in the GFDL, including what you call demand of credit under all possible circumstances. It also demands the license to be repeated, so there's no my invention in that. I merely underline what's already in the GFDL, and state explicitly what in GFDL is left up to the good will of the user. I'm not an idealist now and I don't leave it up to others to decide. So the rules are pretty simple: want to use my work - credit me this way or another. Want to change its license to PD and pretend it was you to made the picture - contact me and I will allow you to. Want to use my picture under plain GFDL - contact me and I will also allow you to. But don't use my work as if it was your own without letting me know. It's pretty fair I believe. Halibutt
Sorry, it's not a disclaimer. You don't disclaim anything. "I would not agree to release all my work under plain GFDL" that exactly shows that it's incompatible with the GFDL. "So it's not adding further restrictions to GFDL, it's adding the restrictions of the GFDL to Halibutt's copyright license." Effectively that's the same. You may not add further restrictions to the GFDL if you want to use it. Please understand that. If people are violating the GFDL terms, please sue them and please let them pay you for it, but please don't imprudently add restrictions. Why don't you use CC-by-sa instead? That seems to be a license that would perhaps be better suited for your desires. No, it's not acceptable that people start doing such things. We don't want 1000 personal licenses, all incompatible and legally questionable. What's next? Users adding statements like "You may use it under GFDL, but not to harm animals" etc? Anybody else is fine with the plain GFDL, so please be fine with it, too. --Rtc 15:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
So what would be a better wording? "Except for the disclaimer above the license is compatible with GFDL"? That's what the tag says anyway... and besides, as an author of the said works I am allowed to release them under any license I please, don't you think? Halibutt 06:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I explained the situation several times. a) Please understand that the GFDL is copyrighted. That means everybody needs the FSF's permission to redistribute it if he wants to do so. The FSF hat granted permission to do this, however it added a condition: Only if the GFDL has not been changed. That especially means no further restrictions, not even indirectly. If you release Image X under "GFDL"-Halibutt, and somebody wants to redistribute X, he can only do so by including the GFDL. But including the GFDL in a work that has imposed further restrictions immediately voids the FSF's permission to redistribute the GFDL itself and results in a copyright violation. This is an intentional provision by the FSF so you do not do add restrictions and still call it GFDL, and it is also one of the reasons for why the license needs to be included in the first place. So effectively you cannot release your work under the GFDL with additional restrictions, even if you are the author. You may release it under equivalent terms, however, you must make a completely new license for this. You may not re-use the GFDL's preamble, you may not call it GFDL, not call it a GNU or FSF license etc. b) Even if you may release your stuff under any licensing terms you want, Commons only wants pictures which are using one of the existing licenses. A better wording would be simply using one of the existing templates. I don't see how this should be a problem. FSF and CC have done their job very well and have spent lots of time carefully writing the licenses. There's no problem with them that would need to be fixed by you. --Rtc 08:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Then how about changing that license to something that would explicitly say that it's my own license that is identical to GFDL with the exception that I take the liberty to use invariant sections (as in GFDL, BTW)? It's not even modifying the original GFDL, it's merely pointing to the fact that I request everyone to abide by the invariant sections? Also, where is the rule stating that I cannot release my work under my own license? As long as it's a free license all is ok. Anyway, of course if the Commons do not like my work to be freely modifiable nor free for further distribution, then I could of course mark it as CC (is it possible to withdraw any document that's been released under GFDL and claim it's no longer free?). However, it was not my intention and I was happy with the current license. Why exactly do you want my work removed? Halibutt 18:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
No! You may not base your license in any way on the GFDL if you want to make additional restrictions. You have to write it from scratch! Invariant sections won't help you there and are not accepted on commons. GFDL with invariant sections is not a free license anymore. I repeated several times it does not matter if you modify the GFDL itself, or include it by reference and state the differences to yours. You can license your work under your own license, but you may not license your work under the GFDL if you do not respect the copyright terms the FSF has made for copying and distributing the GFDL itself! Is it so hard to understand? Please avoid making new 'free' licenses. Use one of the existing templates. You cannot withdraw any document you already released under the GFDL. You can additionally mark it CC, but none of the -NC or -ND licenses are accepted here. I do not want your work removed but merely your licensing template, as I wrote at the very beginning. Please simply replace your template by the boilerplate GFDL one. Anybody else is fine with it and we can't make an exception just because it's you. Thanks. --Rtc 19:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Let me quote GFDL then:
You may copy and distribute a Modified Version of the Document under the conditions of sections 2 and 3 above, provided that you release the Modified Version under precisely this License, with the Modified Version filling the role of the Document, thus licensing distribution and modification of the Modified Version to whoever possesses a copy of it. In addition, you must do these things in the Modified Version: (...) G. Preserve in that license notice the full lists of Invariant Sections and required Cover Texts given in the Document's license notice.. So apparently the authors of the GFDL license saw no problem with including the invariant sections whatsoever. How so they did not consider invariant sections as violating the GFDL, while you argue to the contrary? Or is there something I'm missing here?
Let's get further down that road then. My disclaimer is by no means a violation of the GFDL, as it is legally a part of the document, not the license. But even if it was, it simply states what already is a part of GFDL: You may copy and distribute the Document in any medium (...) provided that this License, the copyright notices, and the license notice saying this License applies to the Document are reproduced in all copies, and that you add no other conditions whatsoever to those of this License. I add no new conditions to the license as it already requests the copyright notices to be repeated.
Oh, and I already said that apparently the plain GFDL does not work the way it was meant to be and the wiki community frequently violates it. As long as there is acceptance to such breaching of my moral rights to my work, I will continue to add the invariant section to all the documents I create, just as I did in the past. And from the above fragment it seems clear that it's perfectly ok to do so, as the GFDL notice is a license template, while my notification is legally part of the image itself. Oh, and to paraphrase your comment: everybody was fine with my license and I don't know why should I change it just because it's you. Halibutt 22:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and another idea: perhaps I could release all of my work under plain GFDL if only we modified the {{GFDL}} tag to include the mention that the license requires proper credit for the author of the original work. That would do I guess, as such a notice would look more or less the way it does in my license anyway. Halibutt 22:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Again: I did not say "invariant sections as violating the GFDL". They however make your document non-free and are against policy here. Further, your abuse of invariant sections to add additional restrictions to the GFDL makes redistribution of your work illegal: People can only either violate your copyright by not including the GFDL, or, in any other case, they violate the FSF's copyright by including the GFDL, but with your additional restrictions. That's a legal trap built in by the FSF especially for this reason so you do not abuse the GFDL and using its good name, but by adding further restrictions to it..
You are not violating anything. Redistributors of your work do, as just said. And again: What you added was not a disclaimer. A disclaimer is something such as "I am not responsible for what you do with the image." What you added was an additional restriction, which makes it illegal to distribute your work together with the GFDL text. Please get this simple fact. The GFDL does not require proper credit for the author. It requires copyright notices to be kept. That's something entirely different. As I said, if people are violating the GFDL, that is not to be fixed your homebrew restrictions to it. Instead, I recommend you start enforcing the GFDL that will have much more the promised effect and will help to spread the word and thus, help other people too. Let's make a deal: We stop the discussion now, which only repeats itself, and you change your templates to plain GFDL, alternatively, you can pick a CC license. Else I will request deletion, because the invariant section makes them partly nonderivative, and thus non free and against policy. If you want to keep your pictures on commons you have to comply with the policies. You are in fact free to "release [your] work under any license [you] like", however, commons is just as free to reject your work for any reason it likes. Okay? --Rtc 22:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
And now you're assuming my bad faith and intentions, which is wrong. Let me respond in points:
  1. Technically speaking, the GFDL does not cover the picture as such but rather its binary form, as the license was not meant for graphic works. So what I am placing under the GFDL is not a picture of a horse, but rather a lengthy set of zeroes and ones, with some short signature in the beginning.
  2. Anyway, the GFDL is a "kind of" free license. The GFDL includes a possibility to add invariant sections to the document without the document being less free when tagged with GFDL. Hence I have no idea what are you talking about. If we treat my disclaimer (or whatever you call the bilingual text by yours truly) as an invariant section, it fits perfectly into the GFDL. Whoever distributes or modifies the lengthy set of 0-1 chains, has to include the section no matter what - in order not to violate the GFDL.
  3. On the other hand you have a point that all those who redistribute my work should not only include the original license and credit the author, but also repeat my entire disclaimer, which is not what I wanted, as my name is enough. So I could simply change the entire lengthy bilingual text into simple Invariant section: original image made by Halibutt. Or...
  4. we could treat the disclaimer (call it any way you like) as simply repeating what's already said in the license. In that case it is also perfectly ok, as there is no statement that would be in conflict with the GFDL. The license itself requires the users of my work to credit me anyway, so whether I ask them for that specifically or not is left up to me.
  5. The copyright notice is the notice of who owns the copyright. Since GFDL is not PD, I retain my copyrights as the author (as per the Berne Convention, for instance) of the work, regardless of the fact that - under the terms of the GFDL - I limit my rights to let the others do what they please with it. Yet I'm still the owner of some of the copyrights. If I offend someone with my work and get sued for that - it is me to go to jail. If I commit plagiarism - it is still me to be held responsible for that. As a journalist I use such licenses almost every day, as by selling my articles to my publisher I also sell some of the rights (specifically the right to copy and distribute the material, even without my consent; that's the strict-sense-copyrights), while I retain my undisclaimable rights to my work (that's the broad-sense-copyright). This is exactly what I do in commons as well: I allow anyone to become the publisher or co-author of my work and its derivates, yet I do not (and possibly even cannot) disclaim of some of my rights as the author. Which is why a copyright notice is where my name could be mentioned.
  6. Also, check the ADDENDUM to the GFDL, where the specific example of a license tag is prepared. There's place for my name (as the copyright owner) and the year of the creation, so such notices are perfectly ok with the license. It's up to me whether I say "Copyright: Halibutt (2004)" or "The owner of the copyright (Halibutt) releases this picture under the GFDL and requests proper attribution". I could even put my entire biography there.
  7. Finally, as my tag is perfectly ok with the GFDL, whichever way we turn the cat, the text by yours truly could be treated simply as a handy way to add my signature to every file I upload to commons without having to write it again and again. As a compromise I could move my tag to where it originally was, that is my own namespace. It was not me to move it to main commons space and I'm perfectly ok with the idea that it is returned to where it was (User:Halibutt/GFDL). How about that? Halibutt 23:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I do not assume bad faith, I just see that you hardly try to understand the issue and do not see that using your private license template in this fashion not necessary and even harmful.
  1. Wrong. Copyright always protects the creativity, redardless of the license.
  2. the GFDL is "kind of" a free license only as long as the list of invariant sections is empty. There are two independent issues here: a) You use invariant sections, which is against policy here, since it makes the license non-free, b) You abuse invariant sections to indirectly add restrictions to the GFDL, which to prevent the FSF has taken legal provisions for.
  3. Again: all those who redistribute your work are forced to commit a copyright violation, as I said. Either they violate your copyright (they do not redistribute the GFDL text) or they violate the FSF's copyright on the GFDL license text (because they redistribute the GFDL text in a document that has only been licensed under a license more restrictive than the GFDL, which the FSF does not permit). It's a Catch-22, deliberately introduced by the FSF so you do not add such further restrictions. You could simply change the entire license template by the usual GFDL.
  4. Again: Your "disclaimer" does not simply repeat what's already said in the license. The license does not require the users of your work to credit you. It requires copyright statements to be kept.
  5. Entirely unrelated to the problem.
  6. Yes, check the ADDENDUM and stick to it. It's not up to you to say "Copyright: Halibutt (2004)" or "The owner of the copyright (Halibutt) releases this picture under the GFDL and requests proper attribution", because the latter is an invalid restriction of the GFDL.
  7. As a compromise you could change your template to redirect to the standard Commons GFDL template and add the copyright statement as given in the GFDL addendum to your pictures:
Copyright (c)  2006  Halibutt   {{GFDL}}
(The {{GFDL}} adds the rest)
You may add an informal statement such as "Note that the above copyright notice is part of the document and section 4 of the GFDL requires that 'you must [...] [p]reserve all the copyright notices of the Document."
--Rtc 00:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Duh... and you state that it's me who doesn't listen...
  1. You might be right, that doesn't change much here. The GFDL does not mention my creattivity but rather textual documents, but what the heck.
  2. a) only as long as the list of invariant sections is empty - says who? So you suggest that Wikipedia is not free because it is subject to disclaimers that are not part of the GFDL? What I request for my work is exactly what Wikipedia requires from those who copy its' content (specifically here). Wikipedia, the non-free encyclopedia...? b) I do not abuse the invariant sections as that is what they were invented for and if we treat my text as an invariant section, it does not add any more provisions that are already within the standard GFDL, as already explained above. I do not require people to ask me for permission every time someone uses my work, I do not restrict the usage of my work to non-commercial appliances, nor do I limit the terms of the GFDL in any way. I simply repeat what is already there.
  3. Absurd, you apparently don't read my explanation. Either they violate your copyright (they do not redistribute the GFDL text) - they have to include it as per the GFDL, so there is no problem here. or they violate the FSF's copyright on the GFDL license text (because they redistribute the GFDL text in a document that has only been licensed under a license more restrictive than the GFDL) - absurd as well, since my text is by no means more restrictive. It does not add any more provisions. If it does - what are the provisions that would not be within the GFDL? Name them specifically please.
  4. Which means 100% the same in this case: the license requires people to mention my name, I require the same. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm not even requiring the people to cite the original year of publication, so I even make it less restrictive - which is perfectly ok with the GFDL as well.
  5. Not really unrelated to the problem, check No. 4 above.
  6. How so? Stating that I request proper attribution as per section 4 is ok, while stating that I request proper attribution is not? That does not make sense, dear. Really.
  7. Sure, I could do the same with the entire text: I could mark it as an informal statement (which it is). Would adding the words "Informal statement" or "Advise" suit you? Halibutt 04:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
It is hard to discuss with you. Of course I listen and I have seen such argumentation really a dozen of times, but it's sad you don't see the problems with your position.
  1. Yes, it's among other things about text. Text, as such, also has creative elements.
  2. This is common knowledge.[40][41]. If commons would allow invariant sections, it would specifically mention this.
  3. a) The Wikipedia list of invariant sections is empty: "with no Invariant Sections". Yes, they include disclaimers. That's fine. Disclaimers are not invariant sections in the sense of the license. You don't include disclaimers. You include additional restrictions. Please look up what a disclaimer is. It's not an arbitrary declaration. b) The invariant sections were invented for you to express your personal opinion about philosophy, politics and such. Not to play legal tricks.
  4. Please accept this simple fact that it is something entirely different to keep copyright notices and to require attribution. The GFDL is not an attribution license. It is primarily a copyleft license.
  5. Your text is more restrictive, as you require attribution and not merely copyright notices to be kept. I can only repeat it. At best, you are suggesting a very specific interpretation of the GFDL, but that's effectively a restriction to this specific interpretation. Don't do this. You risk redistributors of your version being sued by the FSF for inappropriate distribution of the GFDL text.
  6. section 4 does not request proper attribution. It requests copyright notices to be kept. Get this simple fact.
  7. Do as I described and use the GFDL tag as anybody else does. I will request the deletion for all your pictures for deletion if you don't. It's a fair compromise and very well takes care of the problems you have. I don't see a reason for you to reject this compromise and I can hardly assume good faith anymore if you insist on this specific "solution". Don't be so stubborn, you won't do you a favour. --Rtc 17:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
  1. First of all, commons is not Debian. Secondly, if the Commons had any problems with invariant sections, it would specifically be said so in one of our rules here. I mean our rules, not those of Debian or any other society/company/whatever. What's not forbidden is accepted. OTOH feel free to propose such a rule and pass it by some voting. I'd be happy to take part too.
  2. And again, I'm not playing legal tricks as I'm pretty straight-forward on this one. But this is not important here as, let m repeat for the umpteenth time, my request/notification/disclaimer/note/invariant section/whatever is by no means more restrictive than the GFDL itself. I already explained that and I consider the matter solved.
  3. I require my name to be mentioned as the author. GFDL requires my name to be mentioned as the copyright holder. The name is the same, the reason is a secondary matter. I could modify the text and change the moral rights to GFDL. Would that sound better?
  4. That's right. I am suggesting certain ways, while I by no means require anyone to follow my advise. As long as they follow standard GFDL and mention my name (for whatever reason they chose, be it moral rights, good will, decency, copyright law, anything) it's ok with me. If the people ignore my suggestion - it's still fine with me, as long as the name is there. How is that any more restrictive?
  5. As per the above
  6. It's not a compromise, it's basically blackmail. Give up your rights to your work or I'll delete it, including the featured pics you've made. You stick to your own interpretation of both the GFDL and my own words, yet it's apparently little more than that: your own interpretation. I already released my work under GFDL and I'm merely using a personal tag. No rule forbids me to do it, I don't violate any laws or regulations, not even the copyright of the GFDL. If you believe that the tag should be deleted anyway - fine. But please invent some better explanation, as the one you presented does not hold the water. All is based on your assumption that I restrict the GFDL to my own interpretation, which is wrong. I do not, I'm merely suggesting it. And it's my right to do that, just like it is the right of other people to ignore it. Halibutt 18:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
That's my last message here before I am putting your pictures for deletion. You are still not seeing the difference between requiring attribution and merely keeping copyright notices. "GFDL requires my name to be mentioned as the copyright holder" That is just plain wrong and I repeated it again and again. It requires copyright notices to be kept. I'm sorry if you don't understand this basic difference, but then again I can't change it. I urge you again to take the advice and do as I suggested (which is not a specific interpretation, not a restriction but merely a restatement of the license). I simply ask you to use the plain GFDL as anybody else is fine with. Alternatively, use a Cc-by license if you want attribution. Your position can't be tolerated because that would result in each user making his own private GFDL license with his own invariant section, his own interpretation and his own additional restrictions. Yes, free licenses are exactly about giving up many of your rights. --Rtc 20:22, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
First you'd have to explain why exactly each user should not create his own tag for him or herself. Then you'd have to explain (which you did not so far) how are the invariant sections banned on commons. After that you'd have to find some evidence that my name looks different when quoted within a copyright notice and separately. But I can't force you to do anything like that. Perhaps posting all of my work for deletion just because you did not understand the GFDL license is easier than reading it - and my arguments - again. Whichever way you go - be sure to get enough attention from yours truly.
Anyway, I already asked you how would you like my personal tag to be modified. I already said that I don't accept blackmail and that I will not use plain GFDL, especially that I cannot retag my pictures that were already released under certain license. However, it is up to me to reword the tag and I'd be happy to do so, if only you see such need. Feel free to propose some wording. By now I specifically marked my comment as a copyright notice. Halibutt 06:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  1. Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Halibutt 06:25, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
    • It does not suffice to merely call something a 'disclaimer' or 'copyright notices', they actually have to be a disclaimer/copyright notice! A copyright notice to me looks like "Copyright (c) 2006 Halibutt". Your additional restrictions simply won't become any better if you call them in a different way. Since you have made no effort to understand the problem and because you seem not to even consider to use the plain GFDL template or a CC license, I did not have a choice than to list your pictures for deletion. It's really sad because there are many good ones, but Commons just can't accept restrictions and personal license tags in exchange for a few good fotos. That is some kind of blackmailing. But we'll surely find unencumbered replacements for your pictures. --Rtc 23:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I think changing to a CC-BY variant would fix the problem.--Wiggum 18:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

  1. Symbol keep vote.svg Keep, please stop w:wikilawyering and assume good faith, the bottomline is this is a copyleft open source license, which does not in anyway prevent those images from being used by Wikimedia projects, and that's all that matters.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 03:40, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
You are not understanding the problem that the pictures with Halibutts License cannot be redistributed legally. Even they could, they would have the problems of the obnoxious BSD advertising clause, rendering it effectively a non-free license. --Rtc 06:54, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
  1. Symbol keep vote.svg Keep per Piotrus. Let me also state that Halibutt has contributed hundreds of images which have been of great value to the Wikipedia project, especially for articles related to Poland. If those graphics are thrown out, this will vastly downgrade the quality of many excellent articles, including some which achieved FA status on English Wiki. Balcer 03:48, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
The user was given several reasonable alternatives (copyright notice + plain GFDL, CC-BY-SA) none of which he accepted. He wanted to have his own homebrew license with invariant sections. That, in turn, can't be accepted on commons. May I make my own license tomorrow, with my own restrictions? --Rtc 06:54, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
First of all I did accept your proposal to consider the text as a copyright notice rather than invariant section, eventhough invariant sections are perfectly ok with the commons. What I did not accept was your blackmail, which is a different thing. As to your question above - of course you may create your own license. If you are the copyright holder of certain document, you are entitled to do almost anything. In most legal systems you cannot renounce all of your rights to the document, but you could release most of it. For instance under your own license similar to the PD. Or under the plain GFDL, as I did. Or under CC-by-SA you promote. Or you could simply state that you renounce your rights and allow anyone to do anything with your work. Such a statement would be a license in itself, thus equalling a lengthy license with lots of clauses. There is no rule on Commons forcing you to chose any particular license, it is left up to the copyright owners. The only restriction is that the license should be of a free type, which is clearly the case here. Halibutt 13:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Your license isn't free, because invariant sections are nonderivative and because your pictures effectively cannot be redistributed legally, as I stressed several times. Why don't you simply change to CC-BY-SA or plain GFDL with copyright notice? I don't see any reason at all for it not to be done. You are blackmailing Commons with your own license, not the other way around. Also, if your request to keep the template would be successful, other users will start to do the same and we'll soon have thousands of personal licenses, all with their own invariant section. If you want your own license, write it from scratch and request its acceptance on commons, but you may not derive a new license from a GNU one. --Rtc 19:09, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... in case you had not noticed, I already asked you to provide a link to a rule prohibiting:
  1. freedom of choice of a proper license
  2. usage of lengthy comments at image description pages
  3. use of invariant sections on commons
  4. use of invariant sections within the GFDL
  5. redistribution of pictures licensed under GFDL
I request nothing more than already is in the GFDL and I already said that. Whatever the intepretation of my comment there be (invariant section/copyright notice/legal advise/comment/image description/...), it is still the same old GFDL, and it's still the same free license. Also, it is you to question that and it is you who should provide some rationale for your accusations. Links to specific rules on commons preferred. Halibutt 19:58, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
There is no such policy yet, but you can clearily see that it's the way it's going here. No picture with personal licenses, except yours. No pictures with additional restrictions, except yours. No pictures with invariant sections, except yours. You are requesting more than already is in the GFDL, see, for the companion GPL license they actually added an exception (in the current version 3, still draft) to allow exactly that specific additional restriction you are making here. At best, you are introducing legal hassles with your license. You did not provide an explanation for why you reject to change to CC-BY-SA, which would solve your problems without at the same time introducing new ones. Be reasonable and change to CC-BY-SA please. --Rtc 20:14, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Template does not have legal problems anymore, I'd still like to see it without invariant section, but that's a policy thing and policy does not clearly forbid it. --Rtc 20:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete If such personal licensing tags and invariant sections become prolific commons would be a quagmire. The users's concern is that people do not follow the GFDL, so why would they not ignore this non-standard tag? Having a template (that is not an invariant section or otherwise) that says you are willing to relicense and other things would be fine, but this is just weird. If there really isn't policy against invariant sections, someone should propose it. Kotepho 21:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Please provide a link to a Commons policy that would prohibit such tags. If there is no such policy, then there is quite simply no justification for deleting the tag, which would likely lead to the removal of hundreds of excellent graphics that Halibutt uploaded. I understand your concern about proliferation of tags, but as you mentioned, this has not yet become a problem, and Halibutt and his excellent contributions deserve a lot of leeway in any case. Balcer 01:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Commons:Project scope. If you want to be a policy wonk about it, "Valid licenses can be found at Commons:Copyright tags.". It isn't listed, ergo, it isn't a license accepted by commons (it is a license, no it isn't, it is a copyright notice, no it isn't, it is a fish, no it isn't.. i'm not even sure what people think it is). There is also the issue that it may not even be a valid invariant section, as an invariant section must be a secondary section and it may not be considered one for various reasons.
His images may be fantastic, but that does not change the fact that a bright line against such things is quite useful, otherwise we will have to debate this with every single one created with this one being cited as precendent. This does not further the goal of commons, to provide free content media, as it is not "free". (Maybe I'm a bit of an outlier, I don't really think the GPL is free enough, much less the GFDL.) Should we wait until people start making licensing tags and including invariant sections promoting holocaust denial? I would rather nip it in the bud. Kotepho 03:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
So, if Halibutt adds his tag to Commons:Copyright tags, everything will be all right as far as you are concerned? Then I invite him to do that. Commons does after all accept copyright tags made by single individuals, for example Template:Picswiss. BTW, I fail to follow the reasoning by which Halibutt's innocent tag would be a first step on a slippery slope to tags promoting Holocaust denial. Obviously, any tag which would go beyond presenting copyright information and try to promote some POV would be fit for deletion in any case. Balcer 04:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
The Picswiss example is a tag for a site, not the contributor. If it was up for deletion, I would suggest the same thing. Use the normal gfdl template, but also make a template that says "This image is from site foo, images released under the gdfl by them with permission at bar." or whatever. And no, just adding it to the list is not make everything "all right" in my mind. Policy is not designed to enumerate every possible scenario, thus just because something is not forbidden (or accepted) does not mean it should or should not be. Kotepho 05:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
So if Halibutt created a website and made his images available there as well, everything would be all right? Then I invite him to do that as well :). More seriously, your comment about the other tag: "If it was up for deletion, I would suggest the same thing" suggests that you not only have a problem with Halibutt's tag, but with a whole family of tags on Commons, in which users add their comments to GFDL policy (for example Template:Photo-by-Wojciechowscy-GFDL). Well, if that is your concern, then you should propose instituting a specific policy on Commons that would expressly forbid any such tags (i.e. Template:GFDL would be the only one allowed in all circumstances when GFDL is mentioned in any way). That would be the proper way to resolve this problem. Going after individual users' tags, while leaving others alone, is simply unfair. Anyway, removing hundreds high quality images from Commons is a serious thing and should only be done when a specific policy has been violated. I still await a link that would explicitly state why Halibutt's tags (and others like it on Commons) are forbidden. Balcer 12:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
If you look at the history of that tag you will notice that it started out life as a tag blatantly against commons policy. That is why these tags are bad, too much nonsense to keep track of. Obviously {{gfdl}} is not the only valid gfdl tag, as there is version 1.1, 1.2, some with disclaimers, some with no disclaimers, etc. These tags just saying "licensed under the gfdl" are not helpful. "Going after individual user' tags...", so we should not delete copyright violations because other copyright violations exist that are being 'left alone'? I don't buy this argument of "but these are great pictures". I'm sure I could find many professional pictures that are under non-commercial restrictions. Should I upload them and then complain when people try to delete them because they are not free? No, that would be violating w:en:WP:POINT. With this tag, these images are not free. Non-free images are against policy. Kotepho 18:11, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Obviously I am not suggesting violating copyright if the pictures are particularly nice. All I am saying is that perfect legal clarity and tidiness should not be the only values to guide Commons policies. Yes, if all personal tags were banned, Commons would be more tidy and there would be fewer tags to keep track of, but the price of that would be that some contributors who value personal tags would not work as hard to upload their graphics. In my personal opinion, Commons needs to find some midpoint between legal clarity and simplicity, and the desires of contributing users, who after all are what keeps this project going in the first place.
In that spirit, instead of just voting to delete Halibutt's tag on the basis that the pictures it labels are not free, could you please suggest how the tag could be reworded, so that your legal concerns could be addressed? Please note that Halibutt has already modified the tag as a result of this discussion, and the changes seem to me to have eliminated the problem. Balcer 18:42, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
The legal problems that the pictures were not redistributable legally have been solved, though very inelegantly. The picture is still not entirely free, because of the invariant section. I gave several suggestions about how it could be done instead. Either copyright notice + plain GFDL + informal statement, but not as an invariant section, or CC-BY-SA. Halibutt does not accept either of them. The personal tag would be much less problematic if it were only related to one of the existing licenses plus an informal visual indication that it's been done by him (basically as done for existing tags used for websites). But in this case, it is done as an invariant section and we need to be careful about that. --Rtc 22:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
  • delete at all. I suggested above that changing to CC-BY would fix the problem, i just saw that Rtc pointed out this possibility before. I would prefer if we stick to the existing templates so straightforward use of the Commons stuff is assured. I wouldn't like if anybody creates his personal license in terms of usage conditions.--Wiggum 22:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, if Halibutt switched his license to CC-BY, that would go some way towards resolving the problem. Still, it is human nature to often have an emotional attachment to one's creative work, and if Halibutt feels that his graphics descriptions require an additional personal touch as far as the license is concerned, that should be his prerogative, given the huge quantity and quality of his contributions.Balcer 01:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
That's it. If I used plain CC-by, I would add such a note to every single picture anyway. The only difference would be my own convenience. And this was warranted enough by the original version of this tag that was in my own user space. It was moved to main space - fine with me. It is to be moved back to my user space - fine as well. However, it's simply easier to tag all pics with a single tag than to add the text by hand. Halibutt 03:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Besides, as Rtc noted above, the legal problems have been solved, so I consider the case closed. Halibutt 09:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Is this discussion now closed or what? What is the result? ---ALE! ¿…? 09:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Kept -- After being modified, it at least complies with GFDL. / Fred Chess 23:12, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:VCG.jpg and Image:HD217107.jpg

Uploaded by User:Hurricane Devon, who has been blocked indefinitely on English Wikipedia for endlessly repeated copyright violations. VCG.jpg is taken from a site that claims copyright on its images, and I couldn't find where permission was granted; the other was taken from a site with no statement of the copyright of its images. Because of the uploader, and his history of ignoring copyrights, we should view these licenses very skeptically. Mangojuice 19:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Both deleted as copyvios. Angr 10:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

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Die Person ist gerade noch so zu erkennen (insbesondere in Verbindung mit dem Firmenschild) und es liegt keine Erlaubnis zur Veröffentlichung des Bildes vor. -> Persönlichkeitsrechtsverletzung. 84.63.116.52 11:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

True, the person probably did not give permission to be photographed. — Erin (talk) 14:55, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Holy crap. How should you know? Strongly keep.--AndreasPraefcke 08:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete. How should anybody know if a model's permission is available? In doubt delete.--Wiggum 10:42, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The persons knows that he will be photogtafed a lot. --- gildemax 20:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Was keinerlei Unterschied macht. Die Erlaubnis fotografieren zu dürfen unterscheidet sich zudem von der Erlaubnis das Bild zu veröffentlichen! Das sind zweierlei Paar Schuhe. 84.63.120.205 16:05, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete no written permission. --Rtc 03:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep He's barely visible, but if you really think he is, you could just blur his face, there really is no need to delete this picture -- Gorgo 20:27, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep in the absence of any convincing evidence of policy violation. Angr 09:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
kept--Shizhao 08:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:PD-US-mugshot

Per discussion at Template talk:PD-US-mugshot#Freeness and w:Template talk:Mugshot#Freeness, I believe the public-domain rationale given has no sound basi