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[edit] September 1

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[edit] Image:Mapa_30_de_marzo.jpg

It was copy without authorization from http://www.jmarcano.com/mipais/historia/batallas/guerra1e.html 66.98.78.117 18:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


Speedy deleted, clear copyviol, false licence. -- Infrogmation 22:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Monumento_azua.jpg

Photo taken without authorization from http://www.jmarcano.com/mipais/historia/batallas/guerra1b.html 66.98.78.239 21:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


Source clearly labeled "Copyright © 2006 José E. Marcano M". Speedy deleted as obvious copyright violation. -- Infrogmation 22:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:De Lorean BTTF.jpg

Source is en:User:DBCaravan on en:Wikipedia who has made many uploads on en:Wikipedia with false claims of creation or ownership but which have been shown to have been copyviols yoinked from other websites. I haven't identified the source of this one, but have no reason to trust the supposed originator. (I have left a note at their en:Wikipedia talk page.) --Infrogmation 18:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Apparent source found: [1], full image at [2], clearly labeled "© 2007 Vidi-TO d.o.o. Sva prava pridržana. / All rights reserved." -- Infrogmation 22:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete seems to be a copyvio all right. Finn Rindahl 23:03, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by --Digon3 talk Copyvio

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[edit] Image:Käfer_sjoehest.jpg

new version with correct name: Image:Aromia moschata.jpg Sjoehest 19:00, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by --Digon3 talk Please use the {{badname}} tag for next time.

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[edit] Image:Monumento_azua.jpg

Photo taken without authorization from http://www.jmarcano.com/mipais/historia/batallas/guerra1b.html 66.98.78.239 21:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


Source clearly labeled "Copyright © 2006 José E. Marcano M". Speedy deleted as obvious copyright violation. -- Infrogmation 22:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Stasi 2.0.JPG

Dieses Bild stellt eine massive Beleidigung in Verbing mit Verunglimpfung einer lebenden Person dar. Die Assoziierung des Herrn Schäuble mit Mördern, Folterern und generell Schwerstverbrechern halte ich für unangebracht für eine Enzyklopädie. Ich bitte daher diese Geschmacklosigkeit zu entsorgen. Weissbier 09:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Weissbier says it was libelling a living person (German politician Wolfgang Schäuble). This deletion request also covers the following derivate works of this image:
Lupo 11:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

It's a logo used in a current civil rights campaign and can be seen printed on thousands of shirts and posters in the public in Germany. So if Mr. Schäuble himself or the Ministry of the Interior don't object to the usage of this logo, why should we delete it? --91.65.124.74 16:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that this association of the german secretary of the interior with the former GDR secret police Stasi is covered by freedom of art and therefore irrelevant. But this picture seems to be a derivative work though since there is no feasible reason for assuming the uploader being the creator of the artwork itself. Finally, i think it has to be deleted since the CC licensing is not credible. (It might be true for the photographic reproduction but this isn't enough). --Wiggum 21:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Why should it not be credible? The license is cc-by-sa - Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike - and that is perfectly credible for Wikipedia/Wikimedia. The license itself is included in the PNG image at the bottom. The uploader is not the creator, true, but has a permission from the creator, which can also be read in general form in clear text (German though) on the source web page, which is also referred to. Please explain what is wrong or what is missing here. --W-sky 22:45, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh i didn't see the png picture. The licence is fine, Keep.--Wiggum 09:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose This picture is a legal form of political protest sign against the very straight form of some ideas the described german secretary of the interior stands for. The license is cc-by-sa and absolutely correct. --Herrick 08:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Keep, the license is OK. --Dezidor 09:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

  • delete die Lizenz der Quelle auf Flickr ist cc-by-nc und das ist inkompatibel. --Marcela 10:11, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Ich seh da nirgendwo flickr. Oder hast du dich mit dem Link beim Tagging Anfang des Monats vertan?--Wiggum 11:26, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
      • Ich hab da im Chat nen Link bekommen, ich glaube von Smial - und dasw war eindeutig nc Ob es Flickr war - bin ich nicht mehr sicher. Beim Taggen hab ich mich vertan, richtig. --Marcela 14:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
    • The images are not from flickr. The original source is denoted. What might have lead to your confusion Marcela, is that the license was recently changed by the author. It was cc-by-nc before. --W-sky 12:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. This a a campaign against the article that uses this image. The article should be deletet and has now been restored. Its the second attempt to do delete this image. The license is cc 3.0 (because the older license was the reaseon for the first Deletion Request). The picture is part of an civil right campaign in germany and covered by freedom of speech. Best Regards Stefan.
  • The licence of the picture is ok, and the picture is covered by the civil rights. So we should keep it. --87.123.115.204 21:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Es ist ein Armutszeugnis diese Verunglimpfung eines Behinderten hier zu verbreiten. Man muß mit dem Mann nicht einer Meinung sein, aber man kann es wenigstens mit Würde tun. Weissbier 12:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep. Wolfgang Schäuble muss hier vor keiner angeblichen "Beleidigung" geschützt werden, das Bild ist einfach nur ein Dokument. 84.159.38.181 18:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Wikimedia Commons has also images that are offensive to a person or a group of people, for educational purposes. Offensive content is no reason for deletion. See Category:Antisemitism if you want any examples of wikimedia commons images that are offensive. --Church of emacs 14:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep the picture is widely used in general public demonstrations and is known to a broad mass of people, even outside germany. Wikipedia/Wikimedia even has a liability to provide information to the public, it can't close its eyes to actual political happening. Furthermore, there is no license violation as mentioned. --js 15:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep: These pictures are covered by the Freedom of expression (Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights) and by the Freedom of the press (esp. for Wikipedia). --Liberal Freemason (talk) 16:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. Everything Weissbier has written on this page is utter nonsense. "Verunglimpfung eines Behinderten" (Denigration of a handicapped person)? Come on. Mr. Schäuble is indeed handicapped (he needs a wheelchair since he was attacked several years ago), but this picture does in no way mention this fact, allude to it or show it. It does allude to Schäuble's political positions, which are questionable. --Rosenzweig 19:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Concerning the license: The picture was not taken from flickr or any other platform, but was shot by myself. So the license information (also given by myself) should be correct :-) ---Nicor 13:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

  • keep the user Weissbier was also using this argument to delete the article "stasi 2.0", but did fail in the last instance. Elvis 11:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • keep It's a correct description of the political problem. Also like Rosenzweig. -- Sozi 14:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Most certainly not. I guess the only thing that should be deleted here is Weissbier's user account. I don't know how to handle his changes now. Anyway, the discussion seems to lead to the clear conclusion that none of the images must be deleted. The photograph was uploaded and/or licensed by the photographer, the others have suitable licenses too and do not contradict any lawful issues. Request for EOD... --W-sky 15:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
      • deleting him may be a bit harsh, but on de, he does nothing more than starting deletion requests and is "well loved" for it. 194.76.29.2 15:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • KEEP the image is not free because of freedom of panorama. It was placed under CC-BY-SA 3.0 after being under CC-BY-NC-SA for some time [3]. It's also not inappropriate for Wikipedia according to my views, maybe cynical but it shouldn't be deleted because it doesn't fit in the actual political landscape of germany. --Yamavu 15:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • keep Ich wüsste keinen Grund warum man dieses Bild löschen sollte, meiner Meinung nach fällt es unter die "Redefreiheit".
  • delete So einen Schwachsinn zu einem Artikel zu machen schaffen nur WIKIANDER! 84.153.72.118 18:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • delete
  1. An offense is not defused by the fact that the insulted one does not undertake anything against it. Politicians don't want poor publicity.
  2. Last week a student was arrested, who has that sticker on his car. A newspaper summarizes: "Damit könnte die Anzeige [...] zu einem Fall werden, der Tausende von Webseitenbetreibern zu potentiellen Straftätern werden lässt."
  3. Not only Schäuble becomes insulted, but also the Stasi victims. Alauda 21:31, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
1. I don't deny the fact that the picture is an offense. I just say that commons does not censor pictures which are offensive. If there is a rule that states, that no offensive pictures shall be uploaded, show it to me. But then, we'll have to delete all images in Category:Antisemitism, too.
2. Wikimedia Commons is in the USA, so German law doesn't apply there. If it is illegal in Germany, only the domain wikipedia.de (which is under control of the German Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.) can be blocked. However I don't think it is illegal to show the image for educational purposes, not even in Germany. See Image:Flag of Germany 1933.svg, it is not ok to use the flag to advocate 3. Reich, but it is ok to show it "for the purposes of education and information."
3. See 1. --Church of emacs 13:35, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
  • keep I think the Picture is no violation againt the Person Ich finde die persönlichkeitsrechte werden hier NICHt verletzt also behalten --84.136.3.85 21:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • keep das ist eine zulässige Karikatur. In jedem Karnevalsumzug finden sich schlimmere "Beleidigungen". Außerdem erinnert vieles, was Schäuble fordert, tatsächlich an die Stasi.
  • keep Personen die zeitgeschichtlich so relevant sind dürfen karikiert werden. Damit müssen die betroffenen Personen leben; Kohl war auch eine Birne. Politiker sind immer im Fadenkreuz der Karikaturisten/Satiriker/politischen Gegner. Ganz abgesehen vom Lemma „Stasi 2.0“ verstößt das Bild gegen keine Urheberrechte - höchstens gegen den guten Geschmack, welcher wiederum subjektiv ist. --Poupée de chaussette 22:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • keep Dieses Bild ist allein schon wegen der hitzigen Diskussion in und um die Wikipedia ein wichtiges Zeitdokument. So wie es als Symbol für die Angst vor dem Überwachungsstaat steht, so ist es Sinnbild der hiesigen Kultur des Miteinander, des Lösung-Findens, der Wikipediademokratie. Abgesehen davon hat es in Magazinen wie der Titanic weit verletzendere Karrikaturen von Politikern und anderen Personen des öffentlichen Lebens gegeben (z.B. gegen den Papst) die sämtlich - sofern es überhaupt zu einem Prozess kam - nicht verboten wurden.

Kept, no persuasive reason. --Avatar 00:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:IMG_4029.jpg

I have uploaded the same image with another name (Kostel sv. Vavřince v Teplicích nad Metují.jpg). Koroner 17:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC) Symbol delete vote.svg Delete case of bad name, same uploader Finn Rindahl 17:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by Siebrand: Dupe of Image:Kostel sv. Vavřince v Teplicích nad Metují.jpg

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[edit] Image:19 de marzo.jpg


Deleted by Infrogmation: cv

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[edit] Image:1995-SAT-vs-Income-Education.png

Images uploaded in 2005, not used in any projects, appears to be corrupted. Finn Rindahl 18:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, corrupt. Wizardman 23:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - Corrupt. --Boricuaeddie 03:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Works with higher resolution. --Polarlys 19:19, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Downscaling the image somewhat (3556 pixels at 72dpi is ridiculous anyway) solved the problem. Lupo 09:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Problem solved ;) Finn Rindahl 09:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Lupo 09:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Silvio-rodriguez-dominguez.jpg

Source says nothing about cc-by-sa-2.5 --201.53.23.207 18:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Website is under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.5, and I am assuming so is the image. --Digon3 talk 01:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, --Polarlys 11:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Institut_fuer_Waldorf-Pädagogik.jpg

all user contributions are copy violations from http://www.wittenannen.net/. JD {æ} 09:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

This also applies to:

(Merged into one request by ALE! ¿…? 10:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC))


deleted, copyvio--Polarlys 11:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Press_Conference_on_Hatlestad_Slide.jpg

It is not from a decision or a statement by an authority or a public body, but from a government web site. PD Norway Gov does not apply here. Finn Rindahl 10:13, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, as per Finnrind --Polarlys 11:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Bueste Bernhard Schnackenburg.jpg

I posted it yesterday. But it should be deleted quickly. Date of date of death of artist is unknown! --Atomiccocktail 10:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, sculptor unknown, still alive or not dead for 70 years yet. --Polarlys 12:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:50centpic.jpg

This is almost certainly a copyvio because the Flickr user has licensed several obvious copyvios under Creative Commons. --Spellcast 14:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - Looks copyvio Imo too. so im with delete. --Football97 The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.216.183.206 (talk • contribs) at 12:03, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Yep, it is: http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity_interviews/50+Cent-13462.html. Spellcast 19:12, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, --Polarlys 12:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:IQ-70to130-ColorBars.png

not used i articles, large .png file that does not show on screen og thumbsize. Finn Rindahl 11:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted, not used, unencyclopedic Kameraad Pjotr 12:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Palazzata di Messina (Autore, Leone, Samonà and Viola)

(reason for deletion) --Michele Bassi 16:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

There is no need for this page because there is a better specified duplicates:Palazzata di Messina (Camillo Autore, Raffaele Leone, Giuseppe Samonà and Guido Viola)--Michele Bassi 11:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete speedy... This, and the other images just requested for deletion by Michele Bassi should have been tagged {{bad name}} Finn Rindahl 18:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC) Sorry, moved to fast on that one, at first glance it seemed all pictures and galleries where created/uploaded by the user requesting deletion. Now I see there is at least one other user involved, I have no opinion so as to what would be the best name for these files. Finn Rindahl 18:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I am Maria lo sposo, and also I think that the name with the architects and the whole name of the palaces is better --Maria lo sposo 20:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm following the problem here... these titles are now redirects, are the new titles the good ones and these redirects can be deleted, is that it? PatríciaR msg 15:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
This problem is apparantly solved, the del. req. was posted before this page was changed into a redirect.Finn Rindahl 16:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Er, then we keep the redirect for now, I guess. PatríciaR msg 21:04, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. PatríciaR msg 21:04, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Disambig_arabic.gif

BadGIF, there is Image:Disambig RTL.svg OsamaK 21:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

All instances of Image:Disambig_arabic.gif must be replaced with Image:Disambig RTL.svg, then Image:Disambig_arabic.gif can be tagged as {{duplicate}}. This is not a case for deletion requests. So the disambiguation templates including this image should be corrected before (using Checkusage, I see it's only on ar.wiki). So for now I close this keeping the image. PatríciaR msg 21:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. PatríciaR msg 21:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Gkrellm_logo.png

No evidence that the GKrellM logo itself is released under GFDL (or GPL) Fred J 15:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete until further clearing. I sent an e-mail to try to clear this issue up (and asking if it's possible to release the logo under a free license, just in case it is copyrighted... ;)). PatríciaR msg 14:56, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I got a reply!
This image was donated to me without any copyright claim or any
explicit assignment of copyright.  However, it was placed on my web
page with the understanding that I was free to use it as I wished.
So while I don't think under the current circumstances that I could claim
copyright, I did receive the image at least under the condition of the
freedom of public domain use.
So, keepers? PatríciaR msg 20:48, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Polarlys: In category Unknown as of 1 September 2007; no permission

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[edit] Image:Hayden Christensen 05-2005.jpg

copyright violation from:
http://flickr.com/photos/marcokraus/page11/

the preceding unsigned comment was added by Secar one (talk • contribs)

  • sorrie about that, i don`t have that much experience with these kind of work, secar one 12:09, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't understant what's the problem with this photo. I uploaded this photo from the deutch wikipedia where the photo was originally uploaded by the the user MarcoKraus : it's the same pseudonym that on the flicker's page so it is likely they are the same person. Sayan 10:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Checking the de user page, it certainly seems to be the same person, and he's uploaded other images from the same event that he also has on flickr. You could suggest to him that he add a note to his flickr pages about the GFDL licensing. --Davepape 14:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Judging from the user's contributions on de.wiki, we can't expect a fast clering on this subject. Also, judging from this edit on his talk page, he has been informed about the meaning of releasing images under free licenses such as the GFDL. Since the picture is still copyrighted on Flickr and there was no Flickr review when it was uploaded on Commons, I think we can't assume that the user wants it under a free license. So I'm inclined to Symbol delete vote.svg Delete.
Secar one, when you nominate a page for deletion, please don't remove the page content or leave comments of this type (or at least use the discussion page). In a collaborative, voluntary project, we all do our best and many times it's not enough, unfortunately. Regards, PatríciaR msg 15:28, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept Image was originally uploaded by the same user name as the flickr one. All uploads on de.wiki by this user was from the flickr site and licensed as GFDL on wikipedia, but All rights reserved on flickr. I've checked the user page links on de.wiki, flickr and his homepage, I've found no indication that the files was made by another person or that it is a copyvio. It seems to be his work and he released the image on wikipedia under GFDL. --GeorgHHtalk   20:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:A-10.png

This nomination includes all PNG Autoroute shields in Category:Road signs in Québec.

The stylized overpass is copyrighted, since the design was first used in the 1960s. I've made an SVG replacement without the overpass. NE2 03:00, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment It would be nice to see if there is some source for the claim that the overpass came into use in the 1960s, to make it clear (not that I don't believe in you ;)). PatríciaR msg 14:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I have filled an official form at www.droitauteur.gouv.qc.ca to get permission and or clarification on that matter. J'ai rempli un formulaire auprès de l'éditeur officiel du Québec (www.droitauteur.gouv.qc.ca) afin d'obtenir des clarification sur le sujet et possiblement une permission plus large. Yanik Crépeau 2007-11-12
  • Any updates? I think we can go ahead and delete the PNGs as superceded. Quadell (talk) 12:17, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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uploaded with wrong name, right name is Su-7-JH02.jpg Hrd10 17:22, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Please use {{badname}} for those requests. I changed image to badname. --Denniss 11:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by --Digon3 talk Badname

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[edit] Image:Ipswitch_ma_highlight.png

Superseded by the correctly spelled Image:Ipswich_ma_highlight.png File Upload Bot (Petros63) 22:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

  • I've changed the category from delete to bad name as suggested. Since it is now listed for speedy deletion, please close this request with no action. Petros63 02:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

--Digon3 talk Tagged as badname

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[edit] Image:Manchester_By-The-Sea_ma_highlight.png

Superseded by Image:Manchester-by-the-Sea_ma_highlight.png (corrected town name) Petros63 22:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

  • I've changed the category from delete to bad name as suggested. Since it is now listed for speedy deletion, please close this request with no action. Petros63 02:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

--Digon3 talk Tagged as badname

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[edit] Image:Budde-grosz.jpg

I made an uploading mistake. Rhomylos 13:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Image does not have license and is probably not forthcoming if user marks it as an uploading mistake. Deadstar 14:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted /mistake uploaded, deletion apply by uploader--Fanghong 03:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Reynard_The_Fox.jpg

same as Image:Reynard-the-fox.jpg, but less info in the Summary Jonas kork 13:41, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted /redundant, less discription and only one used.--Fanghong 03:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Metro_Lille_Train_Interior.jpg

This image, which was originally posted to Flickr, was reviewed on 2006.10.17 by the administrator or trusted user Bastique, who found that it was currently available on Flickr under the license © All rights reserved. It seems to me that this is incompatible with Commons. Am I wrong? Lucasbfr 11:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

It's clearly incompatible with GFDL!--Londoneye 12:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, the same template informs you of that "...which isn't compatible with the Commons." I'm afraid this happens often, and yes, the image should be deleted. Such images go into Category:Possibly unfree Flickr images, which has a deleting backlog. PatríciaR msg 21:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. PatríciaR msg 21:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Gafsacentre.jpg

Bad quality and no particular subject --Moumou82 12:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Quality is usually avery bad reason for deletion. If the image is used it should be kept (checkusage does not work at the moment). --ALE! ¿…? 08:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Is the better photo free that I have of the center of Gafsa. Was take from bus and is low quality but we can see perfectly as is the center of Gafsa I believe and this is a particular subject because I created pages for all the tunisian delegations (263) that surely momou82 never heard before that exist.--jolle 02:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

It is used at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gafsa --jolle 02:58, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


Kept, image is used. PatríciaR msg 21:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Works

This whole category tree is empty and redundant --Tony Wills 09:38, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting info.svg Info: this includes Category:Works by license, Category:PD-UN, Category:Public domain in the United States, Category:PD-US-no-notice --Tony Wills 09:48, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 10:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Baden_AG.jpg

because it is superseded by similar image of superior quality and resolution Monk 14:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


no valid reason for deletion --ALE! ¿…? 10:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Baden_old_town.JPG

because it is superseded by similar image of superior quality and resolution Monk 14:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


no valid reason for deletion --ALE! ¿…? 10:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Blueaz.png

ugly blue map, only used on commons Arizona Michiel1972 14:27, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 10:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:BlueHole_TiefenZeitDiagramm.png

doppelt Usellermann 16:29, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by ALE!: duplicate or a scaled down version of Image:TiefenZeitDiagramm-BlueHole.png

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[edit] Image:Rogesa-BF5.jpeg, Image:Slab-caster.jpeg and Image:Georgsmarienhutte-EF.jpeg

There is doubt if this source stahl-online.de allows for derivative and commercial use. See preliminary discussion on my User talk. Finn Rindahl 11:29, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

no free license at all: http://www.stahl-online.de/english/legal_notes/legal_notes.asp --Polarlys 12:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, --Polarlys 13:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Y-NL400b.gif

licensed {{cc-by-nc}} at source, see [4] ˉanetode╦╩ 08:48, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

  • The above en.wikipedia link could be accessed by en.wikipedia admins only... --Moonian 13:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. No free license. --Siebrand 11:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Eunis hor large.png

license unclear --Conny 16:57, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete As far as I can perceive this, it's a copyvio. Material from the European Energy Agency is mostly in public domain but parts can be copyrighted, and EUNIS is such a part, unfortunately. PatríciaR msg 22:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. No permission --Siebrand 11:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Serbia1941 1944.png

An amateur's map, which, according to the Wikipedia's No Original Research shall not be used in Wikipedia's articles. Use maps of the occupied Europe seen in the valid and verifiable sources. Moreover, this map is just a misinterpretation of the historic facts. The previous unsigned comment was made on 2 September 2007 by User:4.249.0.58

Template fix Deadstar 07:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep used in several articles on various Wikipedias (English, Spanish, Polish anyhow ...) Images are given wide bearth on English Wikipedia to include "minimal" original research - basically every user-produced image has some. Source data would be nice, but it's being used and is on an encyclopaedic topic. WilyD 20:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete This map is just a misinterpretation of the historic facts - compare the map of Serbia as seen in Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, Israel Gutman, Editor in Chief, Vol. 3, Macmillan, New York - London, 1990 entry Serbia, page 1342.

Also, see

  • The Destruction of the European Jews by Raul Hilberg Holmes & Meier 1985 entry Serbia, pages 725-738
  • Karl-Heinz Schlarp, Wirtschaft and Besetzung, Serbien 1941-1944 (Wiesbaden and Stuttgart 1986)

Author of this (proposed for deletion) 'map' tried to sell an idea about 'autonomy' of Banat, then about 'region' ruled by German minority. The references above have no clue about Banat as an 'autonomy' or 'regon ruled by German minority'. See simply the 'map' description changes. Very bad thing is that this false map is posted on so many places - one reason more for speedy delete. --4.249.6.183 00:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete No point in having misleading maps.--Londoneye 12:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete The 'map' author falsely claims that the references 1. The "Times" History of Europe by Mark Almond and 2. The Times History of the 20th Century by Richard Overy support his 'map'--Standshown 14:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep It's used and has acceptable licensing. Simple as that. Common is for more than just Wikipedia and doesn't have an OR policy. We make no guarantee over the accuracy of the images we host. We simply host them. Rocket000 19:14, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


Kept No one must use a misinterpreted or incorrect described file, but this is not a reason to delete it. You are free to use the image talk page to leave a notice about what you think is wrong with the image. --GeorgHHtalk   21:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Zeitschriften.JPG

Originally put in speedy deletion for the reason of "copyvio of magazine covers". Also in discussion on Commons:Village_pump#About_derivative_works. So, should we see this as a photo of magazine booth or a collection of magazine cover? Stewart~惡龍 14:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep: while the magazine covers are clearly not incidental to the photo, being its main object, no single magazine cover, or picture to be found on it, is central to the photo. Therefore, even if freedom of panorama cannot be applied here, I think that the photo can be kept. See this. --rimshottalk 15:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Kept / A.J. 13:05, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:BOCHK passbooks cards.jpg

Same as above. Originally put in speedy deletion for the reason of "easily reaches the threshold for copyrightability - indeed, even the pictorial logo down the right side of two of the cards does that". Also in discussion on Commons:Village_pump#About_derivative_works. Stewart~惡龍 16:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

It seems like the threshold of originality isn't very high in China [5]. Therefore, I think that the above statement about copyrightability is correct, and that this image should be deleted. --rimshottalk 15:23, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Deleted per nom. -- Cecil 12:53, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Camtek images uploaded by Kipflur (talk contribs)

I found that Image:Camtek wafer-to-board flow.jpg was very similar to one found in this pdf document (page 7). It is possible that Kipflur took all his uploaded material from a source at Camtek. It is in my opinion unlikely that Kipflur is the copyright owner of the material he uploaded, as he claims. In any case, there is no evidence.

Other uploads include

etc. Where are these material from, and how are they "self-made"? Surely not self-photographed?

--Fred J 14:51, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I got a message on my talk page related to this discussion: [6]. But still not clear what the permission for the images are, and if the uploader/copyright holder understood our meaning of "free use".
Fred J 19:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Uploader was told on September 3, 2007 to comment here (see also [7]), but didn't do so. No evidence of free license. Lupo 12:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Archivio_Prospero_Gianferrari_-_DSCN5145.JPG

I uploaded the same image with a better name Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini 16:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 12:11, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Caledonian Sleeper branding.png

this image is clearly fair use, it's a logo. Fair use images are not allowed on commons --ACBest 21:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Image:Allpeers screenshot.png

Screenshot of copyrighted, non-free web site. Licensing not suitable for the Commons. —Remember the dot (talk) 17:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted Copyright violation. Yann 15:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Robert_Fischer_-_March_2005.jpg

Copyvio of AP picture here Carcharoth (Commons) 03:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Is there a chance AP used the free flickr image (and tagged its AP as it does with everything it touches)? I wish this was true. Should we contact the flickr user? --Abu badali 14:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Dunno. What do you think? Anyone want to contact the Flickr user? Carcharoth (Commons) 03:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete copyvio. Largest size available at Flickr is 289×384 pixels. IMO that means that it's highly likely that the Flickr user just copied this off the web somewhere. Lupo 08:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Good point. --Abu badali 05:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, copyvio. --Polarlys 12:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Aaron Kosminski.jpg

not a photograph so tag is wrong, not from URL given, not a historical image, copyright violation of modern artist's work. 31 August 2007 User:71.203.223.65

Deletion fix Deadstar 13:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • First, I don't see that image at the stated source. Second, a cropped version, together with many other images in the same style is here. That site doesn't give any indication where these drawings come from. Hence: no source, and therefore Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. Lupo 15:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per Lupo.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs|Administrator nom) 16:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Image may be allowable if we had accurate sourcing information as the original is most likely old and in PD. But agree that the information is not accurate and seems unlikely that accurate information can be obtained. FloNight♥♥♥ 18:58, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Oringinal most certainly is not old/PD, it's from a modern work. Late 20th century. Forget which one.

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[edit] Image:Karte Gemeinde Naefels.png

Durch Karte Image:Karte Gemeinde Näfels.png ersetzt. 2 September 2007 User:Tschubby

Deletion fix. Deadstar 12:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Now tagged as Badname. --Digon3 talk 22:16, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Cecil: Dupe of Image:Karte Gemeinde Näfels.png

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[edit] Image:Karte Gemeinde Schwaendi.png

Durch Karte Image:Karte Gemeinde Schwändi.png ersetzt -- 2 September 2007 User:Tschubby

Deletion fix Deadstar 12:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Cecil: Dupe of Image:Karte Gemeinde Schwändi.png

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[edit] Image:DSC01184.JPG

Out of scope. No description given and looks like personal photo. --Deadstar 09:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Out of scope, no desription, author, or date. --Digon3 talk 23:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 10:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Вog_monument,_back_view,_Togliatti,_Russia.JPG

Bad file name ShinePhantom 10:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Please tag this as {{badname|image:"correct image name".jpg} }. --Digon3 talk 16:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

{{badname|image:Dog_monument,_back_view,_Togliatti,_Russia.JPG.jpg}}


image was tagged with {{rename image}} --ALE! ¿…? 12:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Karte Gemeinde Unterboezberg.png

Durch Image:Karte_Gemeinde_Unterbözberg.png ersetzt. 20 July 2007 User:Tschubby

Deletion fix Deadstar 12:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted (please use {{duplicate}} or {{bad name}}) --ALE! ¿…? 10:15, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ukami Matome final mission.jpg

bad name. New name Ugaki Matome final mission.jpg uploaded --MChew 15:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by --Digon3 talk Please use the {{bad name}} tag for next time.

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[edit] Image:Opencd-v40-2-main.png

Claimed to be gfdl-self, but it's actually a software's screenshot. The software may be free, but this image contains non-free elements like the Firefox logo and the MS Window's windon's decorations. --Abu badali 16:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC) Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Contains clearly copyright elements.--Londoneye 12:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. copyvio --Siebrand 11:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:S5001232.JPG

Unclear what is pictured in the image, a black shadow obscures half the view, the image is not taken straight on, and there is no description. To me that makes it out of scope and should be deleted. --Deadstar 09:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Not used, not useful without description, out of scope. Finn Rindahl 19:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Unusable --Siebrand 11:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Joerg_Ritzerfeld_2005.jpg

The image description page says GFDL, but does not name the author, which in itself is a copyvio. The pl: listed as the only source has deleted the image as a copyright violation. Mormegil 12:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. No source/author --Siebrand 11:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Aspa.jpg

Superseeded by Image:Asapa.svg and retired in all wikis. --] (discusión) 14:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


Kept. Use {{superseded}} --Siebrand 11:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Banderavalladolid.png

This file has been superseded by Image:Bandera valladolid.svg and retired in every wiki. --] (discusión) 15:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


Kept. Use {{superseded}} --Siebrand 11:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:1963_Olmpiada_azjatycka_Djakarta_zwyciestwo_wyscigu_indywidualnego.JPG

The own work claim is disputed per edit history, so comments are hereby requested as to whether to delete. Jusjih 13:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Since the uploader used many different author names for his uploads, agree that it is questionable that he holds the copyright for this image (or any of them). So delete unless accurate lic with permission is obtained. FloNight♥♥♥ 19:11, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. No clear license/permission/source. --Siebrand 11:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kusaya no himono.jpg

Copyvio of picture in this document, cropped and horizontal-reversed.--202.177.115.128 14:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

oops sorry that was a simple image-on-file confusion. please go ahead and delet it. WTCA 06:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. copyvio --Siebrand 11:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:1,2-dichloro-1-fluoroethane.png

error in name JeanMi 17:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


Kept. Use {{bad name}} or {tl|duplicate}} --Siebrand 11:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:DaCruz.JPG

Someone who apears there asked me to Mhpoars 21:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

  • What about blurring the faces? --Abu badali 21:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Personality rights not relevant. Correct license and used. --Siebrand 11:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pat Nixon.jpg

This image looks better cropped, and I have just uploaded one that is cropped, therefore this one is no longer nessecary. --Happyme22 22:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I think there is no harm keeping both. Where is the new BTW? Yann 15:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Use {{bad name}} or {{duplicate}} --Siebrand 11:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:50°Stormo-Patch.png

No more used, the image is equivalent to Image:50°Stormo-Patch.svg --F l a n k e r 23:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Superseded PNGs are to be replaced but not deleted. --Digon3 talk 14:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Is a no more used duplicate. --F l a n k e r 00:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Use {{bad name}} or {tl|duplicate}} --Siebrand 11:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Rosenau Stadionplan.JPG

Es wird behauptet, dieses Bild sei "selbst gemacht", aber offenbar handelt es dabei nur um das Abfotografieren eines gedruckten Exemplars. Das Bild (ohne die Gebrauchsspuren vor dem Abfotografieren) findet sich z.B. auch bei auf der Seite des Stadions --87.180.174.140 13:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC) --87.180.174.140 13:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I couldn't find the image at the stadium's homepage, but at the ticket service. It is a pretty clear copyvio, unless it was photographed from a permanent public display of the plan. I have just asked the user at deWP, but if no answer is forthcoming, this will have to be deleted. --rimshottalk 16:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
The original foto is on [8] (Click on "Tipps für Gäste") --195.93.60.98 21:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Invalid claim of own work. (falsche Angabe, da eindeutig nicht selbst gemacht). -- Cecil 12:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:1956_Mistrz_Polski_na_100km.JPG

The own work claim is disputed per edit history. Jusjih 13:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted per nom. [9] uploader does not know the author, an IP added the "own work" information; no licence tag. -- Cecil 13:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:1959_WDPolski_zwyciestwo_wyscigu.JPG

Questionable own work claim. Jusjih 14:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted per nom (see Commons:Deletion requests/Image:1956 Mistrz Polski na 100km.JPG too). Also missing licence tag. -- Cecil 13:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:1960_WPokoju_start_w_Lodzi_Fornalczyk_pompuje_kolo_red_Smarzewski.JPG

Questionable own work claim. Jusjih 14:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted per nom (see Commons:Deletion requests/Image:1956 Mistrz Polski na 100km.JPG too). Also missing licence tag. -- Cecil 13:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Haselburg_Modell_1.jpg

Objection agains speedy deletion: Is this a piece of art? Copyrightable? lets have a discussion before eventual deletion h-stt !? 21:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Following a part of the discussion for the candidature to worth reading artikels Römische Villa Haselburg:

Warum nicht? Das Modell steht dauerhaft seit ca. 10 Jahren in freier Natur für jeden zugänglich ohne Zaun drumherum. Und als Kunstwerk kann man es wohl auch nicht bezeichnen, eher als Sichtbarmachen archäologischer Forschung.--presse03 12:44, 2. Sep. 2007 (CEST)
Leider ist das nicht die Rechtsauffassung in Deutschland. Marcus Cyron in memoriam Volkmar Fritz 19:10, 2. Sep. 2007 (CEST)
Ich habe das Bild durch ein anderes ersetzt und auf commons einen LA gestellt.--presse03 00:29, 3. Sep. 2007 (CEST)
Danke. Leider ist das wohl die beste Wahl. Marcus Cyron in memoriam Volkmar Fritz 12:54, 3. Sep. 2007 (CEST)

So far so bad. In my opinion this model is not a piece of art and therefore copyrightable. How do you think about it? Does there really exist a problem under german rights?--Presse03 07:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Even if this were a "work" and thus copyrightable, why would freedom of panorama not apply in Germany? Besides, even if this model were seen as a "work of architecture", would it be original? After all, it's intended to show as closely as possible how the ancient Roman building had looked like. I'm inclined to keep this. Lupo 08:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept, per Lupo MichaelMaggs 19:24, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:OEPNVMuseumPrag003.jpg

copyright of pictures in the hall not really clear, I want to avoid problems. 2 September 2007 User:Netopyr

User had put speedydelete template on it, I reverted as this is not a clear case of copyvio or other speedy reason. Deadstar 07:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Why delete? If it's your picture, the original license was OK - but you should add "own picture" to the description. Theres no copyrighted item to be seen in this picture! --Herbert Ortner 20:39, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

The pic is from inside the museum. Done by me and redone by me on the computer. That part of the copyright is obvious. It is with me alone. But I am really not sure, whether the content of the pic may be copyrighted. I contacted the museum, but didn't get an answer until now. So I ask again to delete the pic to avoid copyright infringement. I think I was too speedy in uploading because I liked that museum very much. If I cannot find a way to have my own pic deleted, the only consequence for me were not to make any other contribution to W-Commons in the future.
Another Q for me is why there is still discussion about this and my other pics of this museum over weeks despite I refused to put a copyright information to the pics. They should have been deleted already.User:Netopyr
Sometimes it takes some time, maybe they just don't see any reason to hurry (and imho there isn't any)...The content of the pictures is not copyrighted. There is no contemporary art but there are just some old tramcars. There's no copyright to them. You're obviously worrying about something completely different - the property rights inside the museum. You seem to speak german, so maybe you want to a take a closer look to this quite helpful page on de.wikipedia: [10]. Some in german wikipedia see it that way: There's nothing like a right to the image of one's property (as long as it's not protected by the artist's copyright). As long as taking pictures wasn't forbidden there, I wouldn't see any problems. (Besides that: Who would find some "Netopyr" when searching the phonebook?) By my own experience with some smaller railway museums in Austria and other places I think it's perfectly safe, museums like those are usually happy to get a bit more attention, they depend on each single visitor and pictures published might add some more. --Herbert Ortner 23:18, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Original photo of some trams is not derivative of any copyrighted work. Unless there is some indication that ALL photography is prohibited in the museum or some similar rule broken, I don't see a problem. -- Infrogmation 03:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


Kept. Lupo 11:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


I am quite disappointed. Within almost a whole year it was not possible to delete the pictures? They are still available to the public. They got even a copyright I never granted. I worked through the discussion[11] Herbert Ortner linked me to. There it seems quite obvious that according to German law the publication of these two fotos (002 and 003) from within the Czech museum is not allowed without the strict permission of the museum. Therefore these two pictures have to be deleted. User:Netopyr 19:39, 5 September 2008


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copyright infringement netopyr 17:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. How is it an infringement? I see no issue here, and even if they did prohibit photography, we do not care since it doesn't effect the copyright status. Also, Trams are utilitarian objects, so they're exempt from copyright law. ViperSnake151 (talk) 19:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Kept Tried to delete it once for a silly reason, and now again. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 07:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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copyright of pictures in the hall not really clear, I want to avoid problems. 2 September 2007 User:Netopyr

User had put speedydelete template on it, I reverted as this is not a clear case of copyvio or other speedy reason. Deadstar 07:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep This is really silly. The fact that there are pictures sitting around, illegible, is not significant for copyright purposes. You can't even see what they are, let alone use this photo to reproduce them in any way at all. Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 11:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment I'm not sure what Collard means. The pictures are clear enough. It's their copyright status that seems murky.--Londoneye 12:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
      • My point, rephrased, was that the amount of copyrighted material in this is no more a derivative work of these pictures than a photo of a street with litter sitting around is a derivative work of the design of that packaging. Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 15:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
The pic is from inside the museum. Done by me and redone by me on the computer. That part of the copyright is obvious. It is with me alone. But I am really not sure, whether the content of the pic may be copyrighted. I contacted the museum, but didn't get an answer until now. So I ask again to delete the pic to avoid copyright infringement. I think I was too speedy in uploading because I liked that museum very much. If I cannot find a way to have my own pic deleted, the only consequence for me were not to make any other contribution to W-Commons in the future.
Another Q for me is why there is still discussion about this and my other pics of this museum over weeks despite I refused to put a copyright information to the pics. They should have been deleted already.User:Netopyr

Kept per Commons:Deletion requests/Image:OEPNVMuseumPrag003.jpg. Lupo 12:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Nikolai_Bobrikov_1839-1904.jpg

not used and duplicate of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nikolai_Bobrikov.jpg Zache 00:21, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Image:Nuvola Scotish flag.svg

Name is misspelt, superseded by Image:Nuvola Scottish flag.svg. --Orzetto 07:05, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

OK My mistake, I didn't verify the name. :) Min's - 13:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Image:Archivio_Prospero_Gianferrari_-_Piloti_Alfa_Romeo_1.JPG

{{Bad name|Piloti Alfa Romeo 1.JPG}} [[User:Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini|Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini]] 08:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

There is not need to list this here. Please use the {{rename image}} tag. --ALE! ¿…? 09:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Jastrow: duplicate of Image:Piloti Alfa Romeo 1.JPG

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{{Bad name|Image:Piloti Alfa Romeo 2.JPG}} 83.103.20.56 09:05, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

There is not need to list this here. Please use the {{rename image}} tag. --ALE! ¿…? 09:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Jastrow: duplicate of Image:Piloti Alfa Romeo 2.JPG

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[edit] Image:Genji_Matsuda_and_Yoshio_Kodama_en_route_to_Hayama_1935.jpg

Request from the uploader. Reason: bad name. WTCA 10:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by Jastrow: duplicate of Image:Genji Matsuda and Hideo Kodama en route to Hayama 1935.jpg

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[edit] Image:Archivio_Prospero_Gianferrari_-_Piloti_Alfa_Romeo_3.JPG

{{Bad name|Image:Piloti_Alfa_Romeo_3.JPG}} Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini 10:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 11:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:IMGP1438.jpg

Duplicate(I have uploaded it again under a more meaningfull name) Yair-haklai 18:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: Use {{Duplicate}}. --Dezidor 12:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC) Thanks Yair-haklai 17:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, duplicate from Image:Antonio Canova-Orpheus-Hermitage.jpg Pimke 19:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Alejandro_Ramírez_Álvarez.jpg

Unencyclopedic unused OsamaK 12:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - used on de:Alejandro Ramírez, even though CheckUsage fails to report this. --Davepape 13:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep If he is a noted chess player, image is encyclopedic. Deadstar 13:51, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Lupo 11:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Adolf_Hitler.jpg

No evidence for PD. Who is the photographer who has been dead for over seventy years? William Avery 06:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete A search here (search for "hitler", direct link to search result page wouldn't last long enough because it uses session IDs) shows that the image was taken by en:Heinrich Hoffmann who died in 1957. So his photos become PD on January 1st 2028. --91.65.124.74 00:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep There is no need for "evidence". The picture, is clearly an image from the 1920's, because it's a young Hitler. That means, it qualifies as PD. But if you want "evidence", do some Google search and try to find more information on this picture. Until then, this is clearly abuse of deletion requests. — EliasAlucard|Talk 19:01 07 Sept, 2007 (UTC)
*ugh*... clearly an image from the 1920's, because it's a young Hitler. That means, it qualifies as PD. No it doesn't! Images only become PD 70 years after the author's death in Germany. And it seems you haven't read my comment above, which clearly states the author of the image, his date of death and the reason why this image can't be PD according to copyright law. --91.65.124.74 20:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Reply Can't find any proof of your claims. — EliasAlucard|Talk 14:48 08 Sept, 2007 (UTC)
Okay. Go to this site, enter "Hitler, Adolf" in the search field, select "Fotoarchiv Hoffmann" as the database on the right side of the page, click search, wait for the search results, then go to the page with images #201-250. Click on the photo and you will see that this image was taken by Heinrich Hoffmann. This is the page, but I don't know if the link will work for everybody due to the use of session IDs. --91.65.124.74 14:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
No, the link does not work anymore, but i redid the search and found the image as described. --Rotkraut 18:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I still see no proof of this being a copyvio. It sure seems to be more like speculations than actual copyvio. — EliasAlucard|Talk 15:44 09 Sept, 2007 (UTC)
Then I would really suggest reading a bit about (international) copyright laws before you continue to contribute to this project. Author is not yet dead for 70 years → photo is therefore not in the public domain → we don't have any permission from his heirs → claiming this photo is PD = copyright violation. --91.65.124.74 22:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
No, I don't think you get. I still cannot see that this picture is taken by _someone_ and that it's not available as PD. I couldn't find anything when I searched that site you provided. I see no case of copyvio so far. — EliasAlucard|Talk 05:38 10 Sept, 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Copyvio per 91.65.124.74 --Rotkraut 18:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Yes, it is a Heinrich Hoffmann image. German postcard.[12] Following the instructions given above, it's the 232nd image in the search results using the advanced search on the Hoffmann collection. Searching for "Reichskanzler Adolf Hitler", it's the ninth result. Lupo 08:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Adolf_Hitler.jpg

As the tag on the source image at en points out, "This image is in the public domain in the United States but is NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN IN ITS COUNTRY OF ORIGIN." William Avery 12:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom --Simonxag 14:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete again. We definitely need a PD-US-only tag over at en-WP. It needs to say in big capital bold flashing letters (and accompanied by a police officer-type voice speaking the text) "Do not copy this file to the Commons before 70 years since the author's death have passed." Lupo 15:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete is this a bad joke?--WerWil 19:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 22:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:AdolfHitler.jpg

Not PD in Germany, its country of origin. William Avery 12:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what's the normal proceeding in this situation so I'll let the people with more experience to deal with it. --Alex:D 20:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --Historiograf 20:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Can you actually prove that this image is not PD in Germany? If not, this entire AfD debate is pointless. The image is old enough to qualify as PD in Germany. And even if it isn't, it's PD in the US, and it's uploaded on a US server. Worst case scenario, this image should be available on Commons as GFDL. — EliasAlucard|Talk 18:52 07 Sept, 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete --Fb78 08:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Heinrich Hoffmann photos are still copyrighted in Germany (until the end of 2027). As seized property, they may be PD in the U.S., but that's it. That doesn't make them PD in their source country. Lupo 08:27, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Sekesoy.JPG

Macuarros de Durango Alx 91 23:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - the image appears to be a photo of paper ads for a Russian language computer training firm compcenter.fizmatclass.ru on a bulletin board with no apparent encyclopedic value, while the information template appears to be Spanish language information on who should live and who should die.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs|Administrator nom) 23:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete speedy -- per above note the supposed image info is a vanity prank, and the nominator for deletion is the image uploader. -- Infrogmation 12:48, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Since nominator is the uploader and the image does not appear to meet the mission and scope of the project. FloNight♥♥♥ 19:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Infrogmation: Speedy per deletion requests discussion

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[edit] Image:Zusammenhangsmaße.png

replaced by a table in de:Zusammenhangsmaß, thus not required anymore. --Head 00:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete--OsamaK 12:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -Aude (talk | contribs) 00:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ajfeeleyphoto.JPG

Unencyclopedic unused OsamaK 12:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Seems rather useless, without any description about who this is. Further, apparently the source photo har been deleted from Flickr since upload here. Finn Rindahl 22:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Agree, without any description of the subject it does not fit the mission and scope of the project. And since the image has been deleted from Flickr and it is likely an image of a living person, I think we need to be extra cautious about keeping it and should delete promptly. FloNight♥♥♥ 17:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per FloNight.--Londoneye 14:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -Aude (talk | contribs) 00:15, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Rest in peace

There is a Category:Graves already. Does a Category:Rest in peace make any sense? --S[1] 17:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Not needed + hard to define (whose grave would be allowed in this cat etc...) Deadstar 08:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Trying to think of how this category might be used within the scope of the project. Categorization of graves by inscription does not seem meaningful to me. I'm open to changing my mind if others can think of a use. FloNight♥♥♥ 19:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Makes no sense to me.--Londoneye 14:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -Aude (talk | contribs) 00:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Frituurpan-gesloten.jpg

Advertising: name of company visible. 4 September 2007 User:82.157.230.183

Deletion fix Deadstar 13:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep This is not a reason for deletion. The logo of Tefal is not the main subject of the image and the image is licensed correctly. Siebrand 14:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - Not a valid reason for deletion. --Boricuaeddie 03:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - No valid reason? It's forbidden! Fair use is not permitted! 82.157.230.183 15:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep It's GFDL; fair use is irrelevant.--Londoneye 14:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept --Digon3 talk 20:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Belchior.jpg

Unencyclopedic unuesd OsamaK 13:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Image used on pt wiki to illustrate Belchior article (a Brazilian singer), so both reasons given for deletion not valid. Deadstar 13:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - funny nomination! Dantadd 08:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
lol, ok Kept--OsamaK 16:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept --Digon3 talk Nomination withdrawn?

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[edit] Image:Gozen-kaiji_14_August_1945.jpg

Request by the uploader. Reason: bad name. WTCA 10:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by User:Jastrow as duplicate of Image:Gozen-kaigi 14 August 1945.jpg.

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[edit] Image:Diane-merrick-logo-100.jpg

Apparently a copyvio. This is a store logo, taken from a copyrighted webpage, by a mostly-single-use account that does not appear to speak for the copyright owner, but who nevertheless asserts it is free to use for all purposes. Somehow I doubt that. The image was only used on enwiki for advertising. Radiant! 12:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom.--Londoneye 14:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete has potential to qualify under a different license, but surely not pd. Komdori 17:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -Aude (talk | contribs) 00:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:S abolhasan alasfhani irq5.jpg, Image:Swa.jpg and Image:يؤم المسلمين في النجف.jpg

suspect copyvio, the image has a watermark, and the website http://www.alyageen.org/ has a copyrighted sign on it. --Deadstar 12:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Seems to be copyvio.--Londoneye 14:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Image:Necromouse.jpg

Copyvio. See http://twub.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html, Copyright © 1999 – 2007 Google, see intellectual property rights under http://www.blogger.com/terms.g. Also, no indication of GFDL on page, no indication of creative comments, etc. Also see http://www.flickr.com/photos/lob2k/10292401/ Night Ranger 02:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep flickr and blogger images were uploaded after the Wikipedia image was first uploaded in Feb 2005. / Fred J 07:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Correct, those came out after my initial upload, and use the same filename as my original upload. Alkivar 23:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete this looks like something useless and low resolution Madmax32 11:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Why useless? It is used on necrophilia articles on four wikipedias, including en:Necrophilia / Fred J 23:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
      • That's because there are stupid people who insert it into those articles. #1 no evidence the mouse it is dead or it is engaging in sexual contact (for all we know this was staged) #2 necrophilia refers to a human sexual fascination with corpses, mice are not people. This is okay on a joke website but not on an encyclopedia Madmax32 03:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
        • Please: we are not the moral guide of Wikipedia, we are their image provider. The image has been there since 2005 and has been discussed (en:Talk:Necrophilia#Mouse_Photograph) with consensus for it to stay. It makes no sense to delete it from here. / Fred J 16:44, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
    • If you read the necrophilia page it would have told you that necrophilia was the "love of corpses". It does not refer to singularly human behavior, we are just egotistic and assume that it can only refer to people in the act. However this picture does at least prove a point; that animals are culprits of the act of necrophilia as well. Staged or not this picture should not be removed just because someone doubts its athenticity.
      • OK, other animals have sometimes exhibited necrophilia. Noted. That discussion is not particularly relevent to this deletion requests-- it is an image of dubious source at dreadful low resolution that we don't know if it depicts what it claims. I disagree that there is any "consensus" about use of the image on en:Wikipedia, but in any case source and licencing requirements are somewhat looser there then here. Lousy low res possibly faked dubiously sourced image? Not for Commons. -- Infrogmation 20:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete like Madmax32. Yann 22:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Nothing seems to be going on here. This image is unencyclopedic, awful quality and adds nothing to the project. It isn't even verifiable that these mice are real or they're engaging in the "activity" they're supposedly engaging in. Night Ranger 19:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
      • Its only awful quality because someone came in and compressed the ever living shit out of it. I've reverted back to the original which is MUCH clearer. Alkivar 23:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep not that anyone will give any weight to my !vote as i'm not a regular commons contributor. However it should be obvious 1) I dont falsely claim copyright 2) I have contributed many images in public domain or had friends release images GFDL/CC-by-SA. 3) If someone wishes to remain anonymous and still contribute text its allowed... why not an image? Alkivar 00:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Necromouse.jpg

Non-encyclopedic and unverifiable. It is impossible to determine what the two mice are doing here or even that they're actual mice and not fake. Furthermore, the uploader does not have rights to the image (according to his own comments on the image page) and therefore licensing and copyright are impossible to verify. Night Ranger 19:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

  • This person "Alkivar" says "I did not take the photo, my friend did, he authorized its release via GFDL but stated he did not want his name associated with it." If this logic is okay, then I could just as easily take a picture of Madonna from the internet, claim "my friend" took it and released it as GFDL but they don't want their name associated with it. Real copyright licensing can't be done by "a friend of a friend" it needs to be done by the copyright holder. Delete this thing. Night Ranger 19:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
    • This person "Alkivar" is me, an admin on EN Wikipedia. I have credibility, and do not upload copyvio. My friend who took the photo is a professional journalist who didnt want his name attached to the photo but didnt mind it being released. We allow anonymous text contributions, why not image contributions? I can certainly give people who are required evidence that it is in fact GFDL released. Alkivar 23:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Add to the questionable sourcing mentioned above that the image is of absolutely dreadful quality. -- Infrogmation 19:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
The dreadful quality is because someone came in and jpeg compressed the ever living shit out of it for no apparent reason. I have since reverted to the original version which is clear. Alkivar 23:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh my, yes, I see Madmax32 mucked with it terribly. Why? -- Infrogmation 00:43, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Closed as Keep Due to apparent bad faith actions by some of the people opposed to keeping it. (The quality of the image was destroyed, then people voted against it on that basis). If someone wants to make an argument to delete this purely on the grounds of non-usefulness they can open a new deletion request, but this one is too tainted by incorrect information. --Gmaxwell 00:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Image:Necromouse.jpg

(1) This image is still of poor quality, even though a new version has been uploaded. It cannot be ascertained what these 2 "mice" are doing, whether they are real mice (they look like rubber toys to me), or if they are, indeed engaging in the claimed activity. As such, image has no value to the article on the behavior for which it has been uploaded and is unencyclopedic due to poor quality. (2) I don't know anything about these claims of bad-faith that were brought up in the last IFD, but admin status should not make one exempt from the rules. Everyone who uploads an image must either state that they own the rights to the image and release them into GFDL, or else provide evidence that the copyright owner released the image under GFDL. Saying "my friend released it" isn't good enough. If evidence can be obtained then, please provide it via the correct channels. Night Ranger 17:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


Speedy keep, as the previous request was settled two days ago. Rama 21:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Endorse closure before anyone questions it. -- Cat ちぃ? 21:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Image:Necromouse.jpg

Needs an OTRS ticket # as uploader does not own copyright per comments in summary Night Ranger 03:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


Kept, there is no reason to assume this is a copyright violation; I've asked the uploader to email OTRS. w:User talk:Alkivar#Image:Necromouse.jpg John Vandenberg (chat) 12:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Image:Necromouse.jpg

This image, after ages and ages, still has copyright problems. License shows that Alkivar is the copyright holder, but in the Summary, he says he did not take the picture, his "friend" did. He was asked in February to provide pertinent info to OTRS for verification and there is no evidence of him doing so. He has since been desysopped and has retired. Night Ranger 00:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep If this image was pre-existing on the web the source would have been found by now. So it is reasonable to believe it is an original image. -N 02:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Kept and ENOUGH OF THIS. You don't get to open a deletion request again and again (this is the fifth time by the same user) until you get the answer you want. Stop it. Lewis Collard! (hai thar, wut u doin) 02:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Schiaretti.jpg

This image is NOT from the website of the Argentine Presidency http://www.presidencia.gov.ar/ (see description of the image) ALE! ¿…? 09:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete ...if some Spanish reading preson can confirm that the actual source [13] does have an other free license Finn Rindahl 23:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
    • It is sufficient to be able to read English. Just go all the way down, there it says "Copyright". --ALE! ¿…? 15:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. No permission. --Siebrand 11:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:255708524_4dc25bd678.jpg

unencyclopedic unused OsamaK 12:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment Could be used for an article on face piercing.--Londoneye 14:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Unused, bad name. Try again. --Siebrand 11:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:AndreEthier_20060726.jpg

Unencyclopedic unused OsamaK 12:32, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - someone had removed it from en:Andre Ethier, without giving a reason. --Davepape 13:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Image no longer available at Flickr (at least not at the URL given, and I can't find it elsewhere in this guys photos). This photographer also uses now CC-BY-NC-ND. Lupo 11:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Pic of notable person; if when it was uploaded the copyright was OK, surely it's still OK.--Londoneye 14:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Per above. --Siebrand 11:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:CROS.JPG

archivo erroneo. 06:59, 4 September 2007 User:CROS

Deletion fix. User did upload a new version but did not take the (double) deletion template off the image. The image description also reads like a wikipedia page and does not mention a source. Deadstar 14:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per Deadstar; anyway, unused.--Londoneye 14:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. Out of scope. --Siebrand 11:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ericrudolph.jpg

Note: Original source is NOT the FBI. The Department of Justice uses local mugshots and images from other sources for their lists, so the image is not US Gov/Public Domain, and is currently missing its source. --Alkivar 19:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete unless source is established.--Londoneye 14:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. No source. --Siebrand 11:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:TedBundyWantedByTheFBI.jpg

NOTE: Original source is NOT the FBI. The Department of Justice uses local mugshots and images from other sources for their lists, so the image is not US Gov/Public Domain, and is currently missing its source. --Alkivar 19:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete unless source is established.--Londoneye 14:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. No source. --Siebrand 11:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Animal_Liberation.PDF

Not usable for articles, not relevant, by unknown artist Kenmayer 20:05, 4 September 2007 (UTC) Is this a recognized Animal Liberation logo? Not according to a google image search, but I'm willing to be persuaded.--Kenmayer 20:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Isn't that part of the Adobe reader logo? Probable hoax.--Londoneye 14:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Out of scope. --Siebrand 11:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Featured pictures on Czech Wikipedia

I'm a creator. 27 August 2007 User:Sevela.p

Fixed request. There are no images in this category, not even sure if Czech wiki has featured pictures? Deadstar 13:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Per nom.--Londoneye 14:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

what about this: Template:Picture of week on the Czech Wikipedia? -- 85.179.102.231 16:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

empty category --ALE! ¿…? 07:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:672px-Ontariocoatofarms.png

Crown copyright per original version on en.wiki / Lokal_Profil 13:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Design was adopted in 1909, Canadian Crown Copyright is 50 years from publication. It's unthinkable this design wasn't published within a year of adoption. WilyD 20:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


kept --ALE! ¿…? 07:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Primitivism and Category:Primitivists

Request created "on behalf of" IP user, who said in an edit summary emptying the page: "it´s a category without any relevant reason." (28 June 2007 User:192.188.52.58). There was some to-ing and fro-ing in the history so a deletion request will hopefully sort this. There's no point keeping empty pages/categories. Deadstar 15:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per Deadstar.--Londoneye 14:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

empty categories --ALE! ¿…? 07:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] September 5

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[edit] Image:Sksfdjklfjksdjkfd.jpg

No usable image but description of the user. Codeispoetry 12:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


Speedy-deleted as being out of scope. The picture was unused. The user, Jose Mariani, has an account on es: but only two contributions, all dating from September 2006 and related to his userpage. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 12:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Geofysisk_institutt.jpg

How can the image be GFDL when the author is unknown Rettetast 17:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC) It can't. Also the source website is ©2007 Geofysisk Institutt.


Deleted by --Digon3 talk Copvio

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[edit] Image:España.Comunidades autónomas.jpg

Superseded by Image:Autonomous communities of Spain no names.svg. Not in use. --Rondador (talk) 15:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. I'm the uploader--Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 10:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Deleted by the uploader, superseded by Image:Autonomous communities of Spain no names.svg--Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 10:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Falash_Mura1.jpg

how nice! 83.51.57.119 21:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - invalid reason for deletion. I have updated the licensing.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep ...is there something like speedy keep? ;) Finn Rindahl 18:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept: Licensing problems solved. -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:NORGELLAR.JPG

Spam, Band doesn't have an article in any project. Codeispoetry 12:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted (out of scope) --ALE! ¿…? 13:34, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:BSicon_cpicm.png

wrong uploading Sameboat - 同舟 12:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted (no license) --ALE! ¿…? 13:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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wrong upload Sameboat - 同舟 12:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 13:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Rajoy en constantina peque.jpg

Bad quality and no potential use for Wikimedia projects --Balbo 19:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

And potential libellous use. This image is the only contribution to Wikimedia of the uploader. --Balbo 19:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Out of scope. Deadstar 09:29, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 13:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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COM:SCOPE Dodo 19:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted per nom --ALE! ¿…? 13:41, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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wordt niet gebruikt Monc 07:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

English: Not in use. (Bryan 19:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC))

Deleted by Cecil: In category Unknown as of 4 September 2007; no license

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replace with new image Jozo 09:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

  • which one is the new image? --ALE! ¿…? 13:34, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

no information abou the new image added, image kept --ALE! ¿…? 08:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:My friend sent me these, were too cool not to share!.jpg

wrong license --Conny 21:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment What's wrong about it? -- Bryan (talk to me) 08:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Maybe that the image has been removed at Flickr? And that the image doesn't look like all the others this Flickr account has (black border)? Copyvio detected at Flickr? Lupo 13:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
I contacted original author via eMail - picture is not under this license. Linked Flickruser used wrong one and deleted the file after checking out maybe. Conny 17:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC).

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Seems reasonable to question the lic here based on the title of the image. We need credible evidence of specific permission I think. Unless we obtain it, delete. FloNight♥♥♥ 19:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 07:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Colours.SVG

Reasons for deletion request --Erik Baas 15:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC) This file is identical to a previous version of image:Colours.svg, has the same errors and no style-tag, and does not display properly. - Erik Baas 15:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


Kept. Use {{duplicate}}. --Siebrand 11:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Gericht-lohra-fronhausen.jpg

Diese Karte ist bestimmt nicht vom Autor erzeugt worden. Zu alt! Da keine weiterer Quelle genannt, lieber löschen. -- User:Stefan Kühn 07:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


Kept. Early 18th century. It's {{PD-old}}. I've added the source info etc. on the image page. Lupo 11:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Luciano_Pavarotti.jpg

This is not actually a free image, it's a copy of the image that was deleted from En.wikipedia as being unfree. Night Gyr 21:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Yup, just came here to report the same thing. The source given at enwiki was [14], which is a colored photograph, so it is highly doubtful that the uploader created this image and chose to upload a resized version of the black and white copy that was formerly on enwiki. RockMFR 21:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
I came here to nominate the image myself. Uploader did not write at which concert this thumbnail (175 x 233) was taken, which clearly suggests to me that this is a copyvio. Uploader's first contribution. Thuresson 21:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Same. I already deleted a couple of copyvio photos of Lucianino. --Lumijaguaari (моє обговорення) 13:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete clear copyvio. Dantadd 10:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete really clear copyviol, it's pd-italy on it.wiki (open {{PD-Italy}} to see where it redirect ;)) --Filnik 20:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete as copyvio. --MichaelMaggs 22:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Huvudfoting 070226 JonathanHermin3yo.jpg

useless. 3 September 2007 User:Kilom691

Deletion fix. Child's drawing, not sure if it'll be used. Deadstar 09:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep after reading Collard's comment + it is used. Deadstar (msg) 15:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. I copy this message from the uploader from the talk page:
This drawing is used here: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huvudfoting It's used to show how small children around the world pictate humans. A head with two legs and one och two eyes. I do not know what they are called in english but the word in swedish is "Huvudfoting" (~ headfooter).
So it's not as useless as it might seem. Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 12:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept --Digon3 talk In use, therfore not useless.

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Uploader marked image with "delete", did not give reason. In the description it says "testing my svg editor", so I assume it was a test. --Deadstar 08:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 08:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:No se muestra la imagen.PNG

user tests. 1 September 2007 User:Bigsus

Deletion fix Deadstar 08:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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Derivative work EugeneZelenko 14:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 09:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pagina autore intestazione.svg

Wrong file -- 6 September 2007 User:IPork

Deletion fix Deadstar (msg) 13:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by ALE!: as per discussion on Commons:Deletion requests (wrong upload)

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Wrong version. 6 September 2007 User:IPork

Deletion fix Deadstar (msg) 13:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by ALE!: as per discussion on Commons:Deletion requests (wrong upload)

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[edit] Image:MajorEventsInMitosis.jpg

this image was superseded by Image:Major events in mitosis.svg --201.19.243.86 18:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


kept (no reason for deletion) --ALE! ¿…? 09:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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i need to rename pic, so it can be found in the search Mondariz 15:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by Cecil: In category Unknown as of 6 September 2007; no license

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[edit] Image:Skinner.jpg

"Some years back, I hired a student to make some drawings of famous psychologists which we could put into the public domain. I've since forgotten the artist's name. She did the drawing from some existing photograph." Derivative work, no permission by the photographer nor the anonymous student.

Other images from this source:

--Polarlys 21:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by --Digon3 talk Derivative work

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[edit] Image:BOEcombat1.GIF

This image is not in the public domain, this was an improper move. the preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.154.77.255 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 6 September 2007

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Screenshot of copyrighted software. William Avery 06:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
It's not public domain, but it's still free. As they say themselves "we have released the source code (along with all necessary support files, graphics files, sound effects, etc.) for the Windows and Macintosh versions of Blades of Exile to the world. Do what you want with it (within the sensible legal guidelines described in the license), and have fun."[15] // Liftarn
You're right. William Avery 11:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
We can read « we have released the source code (along with all necessary support files, graphics files, sound effects, etc.) » and « The Blades of Exile source code is now covered by the GNU General Public License, Version 2 », its not clear but graphics, sound may be GPL2. This screenshot is taken befor the release of the GPLed version, then can we tag this screenshot with GPL, or must we create new screenshot with the GPLed version? ~ bayo or talk 15:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Can we have a like about the CPL release ? ~ bayo or talk 15:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It was first released as CPL, but people in the forums complained about it so it was relicensed as GPL, but since you can't revoke licenses (I think) both are still valid. The GPL is for all the rlease (not just code). It's probably a slipup that it isn't explicitly mentioned. As for the screenshot, since it's the same code and the same graphics that shouldn't relly matter, but I was planning on donloading the Win32 version so I can take a new screenshot if that really is necessary. // Liftarn


Kept. Freely licensed. --Siebrand 11:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Taarbæk Port 21-03-06 1.jpg

bad quality, unused. 1 September 2007 User:Broadbeer

Fixed uploader's request for deletion. "Bad quality" and "Unused" are in general not reasons for deletion. Deadstar 08:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
It is not that bad. No copyright problems = no reason to delete. Valentinian (talk) 22:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. No reason for deletion. --Siebrand 11:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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i need to rename pic, so it can be found in the search Mondariz 15:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment When you do, tag this image with {{badname}}. Thanks. --Digon3 talk 13:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment upload the image again under the new name and tag the old one with {{bad name}} --ALE! ¿…? 09:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. See above. --Siebrand 11:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Phobos_moon_color.jpg

Not PD-NASA. ESA seems to release some material as PD, but for this image all I've found is that it's at http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM21TVJD1E_1.html, with non-free terms of use here. Davepape 20:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC) Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Shockingly, this may be correct. ESA claims copyright on NASA's public domain photos on occasion, but this seems to be genuine. WilyD 21:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. No permission. --Siebrand 11:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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"zum allgemeinen Gebrauch bestimmt" is no license at all and doesn’t mean "for any purpose", there’s no such statement on the website btw, for copyright issues “contact the copyright holder” --Polarlys 21:14, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Some more:


Deleted. No permission --Siebrand 11:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Schartz1888.jpg

this is not Israel Schwartz, this is George Bernard Shaw, taken from the cover of Stephen P. Ryder's book and used by an anti-Mason website to depict Schwartz for some unknown reason (and if any other illustrations come from that same site they should also be deleted, as they took images willy nilly and put false captions on them). No known image of Schwartz exists.[16] The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.203.223.65 (talk • contribs) at 17:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep This is Shaw. Ryder's book: [17]. Possible other (better) version of this photo here: [18] - very likely both are in the public domain as Shaw looks quite youthful (note the black beard - he died white bearded in 1950 at age 94). I vote to keep image, but under correct name. Deadstar 10:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - I have uploaded Image:Shaw.jpg as a larger, better-quality, better-named replacement.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs|Administrator nom) 16:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Great. Then this one needs to be deleted. How do we get it to happen? The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.203.223.65 (talk • contribs) at 22:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Parts of the regular deletion process include the completion of the deletion request and the use of {{vd}} and {{vk}}. You did none of those.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 20:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
It was uploaded as SCHWARTZ -- wrong person entirely. Wrong year too. If you want it under the correct name, upload it as such, don;t keep the bad one around with bad, false history. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.203.223.65 (talk • contribs) at 22:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete. Replaced with correctly named version. --MichaelMaggs 06:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Chest.png

Derivative work, see also Commons:Village_pump#Non-photograph_images. -- Bryan (talk to me) 19:54, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The discussion Commons:Village_pump#Non-photograph_images I started was meant to clarify status of large portion of medical x-ray images in wiki commons, not to nominate all those images for deletion. I find it hard to believe that patients do not have copy rights to their own medical data, but I am not a lawyer. I would propose postponing deletion requests until the legal status is more clear. Jarekt 21:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep This image lacks artistic creativity, so no copyright claim can be made. Yann 14:55, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • For once, I think Yann is right. Symbol keep vote.svg Keep and tag all those X-rays as {{PD-ineligible}}. Lupo 22:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
    Besides, Bryan, derivative work of what? The chest (body)? Isn't copyrighted. Lupo 22:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Medical journals and online sites often have claimed copyright on the medical images that appear in them, so I think the image can be copyrighted. I think we need to think carefully before ignoring these claims as I think they are likely valid. And I do not think that patients automatically have copyright over their medical records. In the US by law, patients have a right to copies of their records in a timely manner for a fee if a request is made. The medical provider is the owner of the records, I think. FloNight♥♥♥ 19:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I am a Paramedic, trained and certified in Connecticut in 1990. At that time, all "appropriate" medical personnel with a "reasonable" need to review, had unfettered access to ALL patient medical information, including images. I think that the greater good of having these images available outweighs any claim to a copy right. In particular, (I have three publications of my own) the journals with which I deal copyright the article as a single entity. I may use portions as I see fit, as long as I do not substantially reproduce the complete article. Until there is a legal decision, I hope these images remain. dunion 23:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Not a derivative work. Kept. O2 () 01:03, 11 November 2007 (GMT)

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According to de:MS Finnmarken, the ship was built 1912, so the painting was made even later. If the author is not known to be dead for 70 years, the photo is a derivative work and not free --schlendrian •λ• 11:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC) --schlendrian •λ• 11:31, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

“§ 41: If a work has been issued without stating the author's name, a generally known pseudonym, mark or symbol, the copyright shall subsist for 70 years after the expiry of the year in which the work was first issued. If the work consists of several parts, the term of protection shall be calculated separately for each part. The copyright in works by an unknown author shall subsist for 70 years after the expiry of the year in which the work was created, if the work is not issued during this period.” Fingalo 13:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
we don't know when this work was created, it may be only couple of years old. And we don't know if the autor's name is stated somewhere (back?). --schlendrian •λ• 13:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleted because of unclear source. The uploader claims that he is the copyright owner, but it is unknown if that is because he actually painted it himself or because he owns the painting and made a foto of it (which is a common misunderstanding concerning paintings). 2.5 month are enough waiting for a clarification. If the uploader ever return he can make a request for undeletion in case of scenario one. -- Cecil 13:25, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:Anonymous work

WTF? What does a template that, according to its own phrasing, does not apply in the European Union, the United States, Canada, Russia, China, India, countries of the Arab Law Group and others do on Commons? This is ridiculous. Even more so as there was a prior deletion discussion.

Besides, it's also utterly wrong. First, you should never base any tag on the Berne Convention (BC). The BC is not some kind of transnational super-law that would automatically take precedence over local laws.[19] Instead, signatory countries of the BC instead adapt their own laws such that they meet the minimum requirements of the BC. Second, many countries go beyond the BC minimums. Third, the rule in most countries for anonymous/pseudonymous works is that the copyright runs for X years since the creation of the image, but if the image is published within these X years, it runs until X years after the publication. (See e.g. here for the UK rules (left branch of that tree).) And additionally, some countries (e.g. Russia or Germany or indeed all EU countries) also have the rule that if the author's identity is revealed within that time, then the copyright runs until X years after that author's death. (See e.g. [20], article 1.) And finally, in many countries, X is 70, not 50. And in the U.S., it's completely different again (120 years since creation for unpublished works; for published works, normal rules unless created before 1978 but first published 1978-2002, in which case the work is copyrighted until 2047 at least).

This tag just serves as a fig leaf for images of unknown copyright status. Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Lupo 07:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The template has been messed around with so much that, indeed, it no longer makes any sense whatsoever. Fixing it up would be difficult as the rules on anonymous works differ by country, and it is a hopeless task to try to cover all by some generic template. Amongst other things, that allows people to flag as image as "anonymous work" when what they really mean is "the web site I copied this from doesn't say who the author is and I can't be bothered to find out".
But simply deleting this template will inevitably mean losing vast numbers of images, a significant proportion of which may well be ok: sometimes users flag images with {{Anonymous work}} when its age would clearly make it eligible for {{PD-Old}}. Very old images don't need this tag, even if the author happens to be unknown.
There is a strain of thought that we ought never to rely on the copyright rules relating to anonymous or unknown works, and I believe the last deletion request was based on that thinking - in other words it was an attempt to change policy about what images are allowed here. If anyone does indeed want to review the policy, by all means let's do so, but not here. On the other hand if the policy is to remain the same we can't simply delete this tag as we have little that's legally correct with which to replace it. Some time ago I created {{PD-UK-unknown}} in an effort to provide a proper legal basis for at least UK images (see the talk page for details). What we should do, I think, is to work on creating similar tags for other countries, and bring the instructions on how to use them together on a single page along the lines of the Freedom of Panorama page.
--MichaelMaggs 08:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete but only once some replacements have been written, at least for the main countries. --MichaelMaggs 22:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Just to be absolutely clear: this is a deletion request about the template, not about the images. As always when templates are up for deletion, the images concerned will need to be evaluated individually to see under what, if any, other tags they might fit. Lupo 11:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
This is false. Images were deleted, even without warning, because the template was deleted. Yann 15:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
  • I also don't like this template, but the reason to keep this template was "Kept, there are certainly cases where this tag is the most applicable. The fact that it is misused or badly phrased does not mean that the template itself is invalid. If you have a problem with images, fix them to have the real license (putting up a deletion req for the invalid ones)." I don't think anything changed so there is no reason for a new deletion request. -- Gorgo 10:26, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, then, help me clean up the images that currently use this tag. I've already re-tagged a a whole series to {{PD-Sweden-photo}}, which, although not undisputed either, makes at least more sense than this one. Lupo 16:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete: As long as the template is allowed to remain there will always be more images errously tagged with it. Isn't it better to delete it (i.e. not applicable to any images uploaded after DATE) and then try to retagg iamges using it. Any images for which this used to be the correct tag could be tagged with {{PD-because}} which would also give enough room to properly explain the circumstances for why this would apply. /Lokal_Profil 14:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion What if instead of deleting it now or waiting till all the images are retagged, we put a big disclaimer saying not to use it anymore and if you do the image will be deleted? If that doesn't work we can {{subst:}} all the ones in use, then delete the template. That way we prevent future use completely, while not deleting any of the older images' info. Rocket000 18:16, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep

First, from the formal point of view. This template was discussed in Commons in 2006 and finally kept (23 November 2006). As I remember, all of the participants of the present discussion was present in Commons at that time, but absent in the former discussion. No new arguments was put forward. Is this the proper way to make a permanent discussion , as long as the opponents will be tired and the expected result will be gained ? ( I propose Take 3, Take 4, Take 5 an so on). Paraphrasing Lupo – the right retagging of 30-40 images cannot be a fig leaf for mass unreasonable deletion of thousands images from Commons (by previously prepared bot – of course :) ) – as a final result of deleting {{Anonymous work}}.

Second – as for the subject. Berne Convention is a basic international treaty in subject of author rights and intellectual property. As an multilateral international treaty (like Hague Conventions, Geneva Conventions and so on) has its legal value (Amtsmacht) just after proper ratification, without implementation into internal jurisdiction of the parties. It is from its definition supreme over internal jurisdiction of the states – parties of treaty. It is in contrary to the legal status of EC directives ( like well known and often cited Council Directive 93/98/EEC of 29 October 1993 harmonizing the term of protection of copyright and certain related rights ) which are not international treaties and for their legal value the implementation into internal jurisdiction of EU countries is necessary. They are living through ( and in form of) internal jurisdiction.

Berne Convention regulates every cases in doubt. For example – in the case of simultaneous publication of photo in various countries (by its owner – f. example international press agency) – Berne Convention is in effect. Also in the case of first publishing in former (non-existing at present) states without clear legal successors (such as Free City of Danzig or former en:Yugoslavia ( would anybody be so kind to explain to wikipedians what law should be in effect – this of Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia or en:FYROM – I will be very grateful) – Berne Convention ( which party was Yugoslavia) is in effect.

In every such case in doubt the template {{Anonymous work}} is the only one and fully justified.

Besides – in the proposal for request there are different cases – in Arabian countries f.ex. the term of securing copyright is sometimes significantly shorter than terms of Berne.

Treating any template as an possibility for abuse we should remove every templates with exception of {{PD-because}} forcing wikipedians in Commons for individual describing any particular case of image. It is not necessary, I hope to conclude, that it would be an absurd.

Best regards for everybody

Andros64 08:33, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

  • PS. I've just changed "the note" inside this template ( which was awkward in fact) such way :

Note:This template does not apply to images from countries that extended the Berne Convention or that did not sign it. This is the European Union, the United States,India,Russia particularly. Please use {{Anonymous-EU}}, {{PD-US}}, {{PD-India}},{{PD-Russia}}, etc. in such cases and check Commons:Licensing everytime, carefully!.

I think it is the best solution of the question.

Andros64 12:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep There was nothing new happened after first take of Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Anonymous work, I see no new arguments. This template is useful in many specific cases and it is no reason to delete it. Julo 10:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Nothing new since the last request. Please stop wasting our time with repeted requests. Yann 15:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Kept. International treaty (Bern Convention) is clear on this. -- Cat ちぃ? 21:54, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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  • SPEEDY DELETE PLEASE: I have just realised I have uploaded the wrong image design, This particular version was not released PD and is still copyright - Sorry Richard Harvey 23:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Deleted. For such requests, please use {{copyvio}} and give the reason in the template. Cnyborg 17:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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jarrym 203.102.177.166 02:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Why requested for deletion this pic? please give the reason...you don't have give the reason why to delete. I have took it my own. --Sry85 11:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep and close speedily: nonsensical nomination, seems self-taken. Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 11:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep and close No explanation given. This was clearly take by Sry85, who has taken many good pictures of musicians :) Spellcast 18:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept --Digon3 talk Possible bad faith nom

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I think Image:EtruscanX-01.svg is better and enough, it's BQ also OsamaK 18:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


kept (image is used) --ALE! ¿…? 12:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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This looks very recent to me, surelly not older than 70 years. --User:G.dallorto 20:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted (no FOP in Italy) --12:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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the flickr user obviously collects Beyonce knowles content without caring about copyright. --Polarlys 14:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral/Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - I only uploaded the original version of the picture, and when I checked, I did find that there are some copyrighted images there. I wouldn't mind deleting the picture. Yuval Y § Chat § 16:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Agree with Polarlys. Unfortunately this image is most likely a copyright vio and should not have been uploaded to Flickr and then uploaded here. :( [21] FloNight♥♥♥ 12:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. We have free images of Beyonce. Yuval Y § Chat § 22:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Old forecast maps

These forecast images are out-of-date and unused by any wikipedia projects. They also present serious clutter. Good kitty 13:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Not really, e.g Image:2007 06L 5-day track.gif is used both Spanish Wikinews + Wikipedia. --Matthiasb 13:27, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep They represent the forecast at that time, which may be of use in several ways. They are not useful for reporting current events but there are many potential uses beyond that. Unused is not a deletion reason. "Clutter" is a matter of perspective in my opinion, and is also not a deletion reason. If they are freely licensed and potentially useful we should keep them. Carl Lindberg 15:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

All kept. We're building a media database and Carl Lindberg summarized it pretty well. PatríciaR msg 22:45, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Qsicon_exzellent_Plain.svg

wrong name, sorry Niabot 16:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Qsicon_exzellent_Plain.svg

wrong name, sorry Niabot 16:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, --Siebrand 10:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Autriquegevel.jpg

architect en:Victor Horta died in 1947, (unfortunately) no panorama freedom in Belgium. 7 September 2007 User:Donarreiskoffer

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete unfortunately... Siebrand 20:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Victor Horta-Museum.jpg

architect en:Victor Horta died in 1947, (unfortunately) no panorama freedom in Belgium. 7 September 2007 User:Donarreiskoffer


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[edit] Image:Victor Horta Museum Interior.jpg

architect en:Victor Horta died in 1947, (unfortunately) no panorama freedom in Belgium --7 September 2007 User:Donarreiskoffer


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[edit] Image:Bharata natyam 5.jpg

watermarked. --7 September 2007 User:Sarvagnya

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep According to the source, the image is published under GNU FDL. The presence of a watermark is not enough reason to delete, one can remove the watermark anyway. PatríciaR msg 23:20, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. No reason for deletion. --Siebrand 11:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Harald_Sohlberg_Fra_Akershusvollen,_aften_1926.jpg

Copyvio. Own upload, but not my own photo. When the file was uploaded it was belived that it fell under the licence PD-art. It doesn't. Jorunn 08:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Author is dead for more than 70 years. Yann 13:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. PD. --Siebrand 11:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Carte service vicinal.jpg

Was tagged {{copyvio}} by 84.145.106.168 but needs discussion. It's a French topo map published 1880-1914 by the Ministre de l'Intérieur. (See fr:Carte du service vicinal). Lupo 09:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Gouvernment works are PD 70 years after creation in France. Yann 12:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. PD --Siebrand 11:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Blason-theux.svg

False version. :) And duplicate --Min's - 14:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


Kept. No reason for deletion. Use {{duplicate}}/{{superseded}} --Siebrand 11:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Vidalins2Ice.jpg

This is a copyrighted images that has not been released under PD by the author --Steinninn 17:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

According to kirkjan.net the church name is Vídalínskirkja and the photographer was Þorsteinn H. Ingibergsson.
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Not PD-inelligeble (as claimed), not released in Public Domain Finn Rindahl 10:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. No permission. --Siebrand 11:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pia Zimmermann.jpg

The person on the picture does no longer agree that this portait can be seen in the web. She asked me to inform Wikipedia about this fact. 7 September 2007 User:Gerbil

I've been informed that this picture shall be deleted. It's ok. My German nick is Inforadio. 195.246.180.206 08:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
(template fix with comment from talkpage) Deadstar 08:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
The foto already has been taken out of its only article in december 2006 [22] --Gerbil 08:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Darrell K. Royal Texas Memorial Stadium

Misspelling of Category:Darrell K. Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium. 7 September 2007 User:Corpx


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 07:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Coats of arms and flags claimed to be licensed by Željko Heimer

All imagese are taged with {{Template:FAME}}. That template is proposed for deletion because author gave wikipedia only permission. See list of images below. --Suradnik13 15:59, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


done --ALE! ¿…? 07:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Schwerin Propstekirche NielsStensen.jpg

Paul Brandenburg is a living artist, this is an interieur, so we can’t apply freedom of panorama (Panoramafreiheit). :-( --Polarlys 12:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It's a two-dimension foto of a three-dimensioned work. I never knew that this might hurt copyrights. Rabanus Flavus 12:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Commons:Derivative works. --Polarlys 13:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Lupo 09:07, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Grevesmuehlen NielsStensen Bilder.jpg

Michael Vogler (the artist) isn’t dead for 70 years yet (maybe he is still alive, i don’t know, the painting was created 1989/90) --Polarlys 12:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. Lupo 09:06, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Irano-French location.svg

Not conform to w:en:Template:Bilateral, I have uploaded one that is under Image:Iran France Locator.png 6 September 2007 User:ChrisDHDR

deletion fix Deadstar 09:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by D-Kuru: speedy by uploader

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[edit] Image:Leonczolgosz44.JPG

Higher-rez version uploaded at Image:Czol photo 1900 - found in effects.jpg --Sherurcij 00:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Inclined to Symbol keep vote.svg Keep under {{PD-1923}} if this template is kept. With an unknown photographer, The work is in PD because of its publication date (bu I'm not an expert on fine details of copyright, I'm afraid). PatríciaR msg 23:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Subject died in USA in 1901; clearly PD-US. Used. -- Infrogmation 03:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


Kept; subject died in 1901. PD. O2 () 01:06, 11 November 2007 (GMT)

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[edit] Image:Leonczolgosz55.JPG

Image:Czol following day.jpg is higher-rez image of same photo --Sherurcij 00:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Inclined to Symbol keep vote.svg Keep under {{PD-1923}} if this template is kept. With an unknown photographer, The work is in PD because of its publication date (bu I'm not an expert on fine details of copyright, I'm afraid). PatríciaR msg 23:15, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept; published before 1923. O2 () 01:08, 11 November 2007 (GMT)

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[edit] Image:Charles Armstrong Lab1.jpg

not every content from the National Library of Medicine is in the public domain, as stated on their website (Government information at NLM Web sites is in the public domain. Public domain information may be freely distributed and copied, but it is requested that in any subsequent use the National Library of Medicine (NLM) be given appropriate acknowledgement. When using NLM Web sites, you may encounter documents, illustrations, photographs, or other information resources contributed or licensed by private individuals, companies, or organizations that may be protected by U.S. and foreign copyright laws. Transmission or reproduction of protected items beyond that allowed by fair use (PDF) as defined in the copyright laws requires the written permission of the copyright owners. Specific NLM Web sites containing protected information provide additional notification of conditions associated with its use.) --Polarlys 13:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Same here:

Image:Charles Armstrong.jpg and Image:Charles Armstrong lab2.jpg. --Polarlys 13:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I have an email from Douglas Atkins saying this:
Dear Hans,
Upon checking National Library of Medicine's Images in the History of Medicine Website, I found two photograph portraits of Charles Armstrong MD that you could be referring to in terms of downloading them. (Frame Numbers b01918 and b01920) I've checked the MARC records on both images, and they appear to be in the public domain as there is no corresponding 540 field that would otherwise warn you against use because of copyright restrictions. Keep in mind, I cannot officially grant you permission to use anything from the History of Medicine Website, but both of these images have already been used by Dr. Beeman previously in his PDF version of Charles Armstrong. Notice, how Dr. Beeman included the line under the caption that reads "Courtesy of the National Library of Medicine". Please do likewise when you publish either of these pictures of Dr. Armstrong in your Wikepedia article.
Yours truly
Douglas R. Atkins
atkinsdo@mail.nlm.nih.gov
301-402-8807

--Hans555 11:41, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


Close as kept. -- Infrogmation 05:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Colours.svg

only way to prevent revert war -- 5 September 2007 User:HandigeHarry

  • Please do not delete this file: the current version is technically correct, and in use on Dutch WP. There is also a discussion still going on here. - Erik Baas 20:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. No reason to delete it. The current version by Erik Baas works, so the obvious solution is that HandigeHarry please will refrain from reverting the picture to his erroneous version. -- Cecil 13:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Gia wsop.jpeg

Only (?) used on en:Gloria Irwin, a deleted article; uploader is blocked on English Wikipedia because of this offer (see en:WP:ANI for a lengthy discussion). - MikeRosoft 15:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. Out of project scope. -- Cecil 13:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Australian Speed Limit 100 FINAL.svg and Image:Australian Speed Limit 100.svg

I don't believe that the Australian sign looks like this (with the last 0 over the edge of the sign). Can someone fix this or is it for the bin as being out of scope (incorrect and will not be used)? Deadstar 13:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted per nom. -- Cecil 13:39, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Vanessa-hudgens-4.jpg

This is a private glamour shot of w:Vanessa Anne Hudgens intended to be for her boyfriend, recently part of a controversy documented on this article[23]. If she took the photo then she holds the copyright, and it is extremely unlikely that she then posted this image to the commons herself. It is being hosted in lots of places[24], --Jayvdb 23:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted Not free, possible libel. Yann 14:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Flag of the Dutch East India Company.png

Creator requesting: I duplicated an SVG image that existed beforehand, but I'd not been able to find. — OwenBlacker 20:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Image:Glennfine-govtphoto-publicdomain-2007.jpg

I screwed up the name of the file (my first upload ever) - have already uploaded it a second time, properly -- please delete. Lisasmall 01:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting info.svg Info: You can just mark such images with {{duplicate}} in the future. grendel|khan 17:52, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, Grendelkhan. I'm having a very hard time getting into the groove here. Looks like {{Bad name}} (which I found by checking {{duplicate}}) would have been most appropriate since I'm the one who made the mistake. :( Thanks again for the guidance. -- Lisasmall 04:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted, per request then (image is not in use). Do use {{Bad name}} next time :). --PatríciaR msg 17:03, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to Grendel and Patricia for the guidance. -- Lisasmall 19:58, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Sophie 1st Week 015.jpg

Because I accidentally uploaded it as an incorrect filename, and I had to re-create it under a different one, so there are two copies of it posted and I don't want to waste space. --Knucktwo 02:55, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Duplicate file is Image:BichonFrise8Weeks.jpg Deadstar (msg) 11:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Delete - Per nominator's request. Giggy\Talk 00:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

✓ Done - a simple case of {{bad name}} Yuval Y § Chat § 16:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Lahuan milenario.jpg

Error. A wrong image was uploaded -- 8 September 2007 User:PatagoniaArgentina

Deletion fix Deadstar (msg) 15:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 23:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Davidxcohen.jpg

This is a picture of a TV screen or the like; the photographer does not own this picture. grendel|khan 17:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 06:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Screenshot. --Digon3 talk 13:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Photographer doesn't own image, therefore it's not free. Giggy\Talk 00:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment - I checked the Flickr user's pictures - it seems that he was in the Comic-Con, and took pictures with his Sony camera. The problem is that this picture and some others look too flat, so it seems as he took picture of the screen... Yuval Y § Chat § 16:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted (we discussed this before) --ALE! ¿…? 07:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:TeleCustom_76.jpg

Copyvio from http://www.fender.com/products//search.php?partno=0137502306 - 'Permission' section is from an old version of the image which was overwritten and is unavailable Bewildebeast 02:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - Current version is nonfree, and rv to old version doesn't appear to be available. Giggy\Talk 21:54, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. No free license. --Siebrand 12:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Geotag Exif test.jpg

This was a test image with geotag exif information. The test has now been completed and the image now is of zero value to the wiki community.However, feel free to keep it if desired.--Trounce 10:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. Per request. --Siebrand 12:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Wenken Plaene.pdf

copyright still at Orell Füssli Verlag--Ullipurwin 13:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC) --Ullipurwin 13:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. No permission --Siebrand 12:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Hetoumquiet.JPG

It was self made for my wiki home page, I no longer want it on wiki commons or my wiki personal page. --Hetoum I 17:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


Kept. Correct license and used. Not deleting. --Siebrand 12:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Haven_(porn_star).jpg

AfD-ed, now orphan. 116.14.112.177 11:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

What means AfD-ed? Orphan is no reason for deletion. --Nolanus (C | E) 16:23, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Orphaned isn't a reason for deletion. Alpta 17:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep AfD = Articles for Deletion on the English Wikipedia. Having an article deleted on one of the other projects does not affect it here. Royalbroil 15:56, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Kept -- Infrogmation 06:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:UTenn (3).jpg

Though uploaded in good faith, this image does not appear to actually be a work of the federal government. The same image is used on the University of Tennessee's site (http://web.utk.edu/~icehocky/recruiting.htm, scroll about halfway down) and on ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/listranker?id=499) so it's probably just a random stock promo photo, not something in the public domain.--BigDT 00:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused (but I'm new, too). I see your point about it probably being a stock promo photo, but wouldn't that suffice to put it in the public domain? Even though it is not a government work? -- Lisasmall 01:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Using someone else's photo on your website doesn't give you rights to it. Nor does the government's use of your photo take away your rights to it. --BigDT 20:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: Other than appearing on those websites (which in itself constitutes nothing), is there any evidence that the image isn't in the public domain? -- Huntster T@C 11:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
    • It's obviously a promo photo. Look around at some of the other pages on that site. Sometimes when they use someone else's photo, they attribute it, other times they do not. For example, [25] has a photo at the bottom from a real estate seminar. I doubt there was an army photographer there. I don't see any reason whatsoever to believe this photo is PD. --BigDT 20:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. It has to be proofed that a picture is PD, not the other way round. In case of this picture no proof was provided. -- Cecil 13:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Cancer_vs_crab.jpg

Oops, just uploaded this image from English Wikipedia, then discovered that the flickr part of this image has "all rights reserved" on flickr. [26] Now what? Fred J 17:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Fred, as you saw yourself in the Flickr page for this picture, 13 months ago I left the following comment to its author : "Chouby, I used this picture as part of a composite to illustrate why Hippocrates called malignant tumours "cancer" (crab, in latin). You can see the result in the Wikipedia page on Cancer: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer. Thanks, manny.canada." Chouby never answered, so I consider that he has no problem with my using his picture. I have no time to redo it. Please leave the picture alone. Signed : Emmanuelm (Wikipedia user name), Sept 10th 2007 (I also have no time to create a new account for Wikipedia Commons: what's this joke?).
  • Fred, note that I also am concerned with the quality of images in Wikipedia. I flagged File:Maabarah camp city.jpg a while ago for a possible mis-identification of the subject. I am not sure the case is closed, but it should be interesting. Emmanuelm.
Emmanuelm, thanks for your answer.
You should know that most likely the assumption that the users lack of objection means he approves of it being released for free use is not accepted on Commons because such an assumption is not legally binding. Sorry -- that's the way it works. Symbol delete vote.svg Delete
Fred J 22:38, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
FYI, the image Image:Maabarah camp city.jpg is not hosted on Commons as has never been. / Fred J 22:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Just because the author doesn't react, nobody has the right to take his work and just decide for him about a licence the author obviously has not agreed to. After all he stated "all rights reserved" and not "go take it and choose a licence of your liking" -- Cecil 14:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Soledononte.jpg

Why nobdoy pays attention to this request? No a simple comment, why? Next time I will try a speedy deletion. The person that uploaded that picture has stolen many other pictures and even texts. Some of his texts has been erased because copyright violation after I requested for deletion. Why, in this case, is not so? --66.98.78.51 03:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Should I put this request for a speedy deletion? I didn´t use that option to allow some comments but this is clear case a copyright violation. --66.98.79.98 01:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Taken without authorization from http://marcano.freeservers.com/fotos/fauna/solenodon.jpg 66.98.78.240 18:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC) The first time I forgot to say that the owner of the photo is Jose A. Ottenwalder, as seen in http://marcano.freeservers.com/areas/imagen_soleno.html and also in the book The National Parks of the Dominican Republic by Jurgen Hoppe, dated 1989, with credits to Ottenwalder. --66.98.79.242 22:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. No permission. @IP: in case of an obvious violation of copyright you can ask for a speedy deletion. Just write {{copyvio|reason}}. There are only few admins working through the requests here. -- Cecil 14:10, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Bookstore Images by Wars

User:War's bookstore images are unfortunately all copyright violations. Similar to the Herman Melville image already deleted, they are photographs of a mural in a bookstore chain; the copyright is likely owned by the chain, and an individual bookseller saying User:War is free to take photos is unlikely to have the right to release the material into the public domain. Komdori 01:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete clearly derivative. (I notice I asked Wars about a similar since delted image over a month ago without response.) -- Infrogmation 17:43, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -- Infrogmation 06:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Images of Jorunn (uploaders request)

[edit] discussion (edit heading)

At the time of uploading these images were thought to be free because they are photographic copies of paintings that are PD due to age. According to Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag#Nordic_countries this is wrong, and the images are violating the copyright of the photographers. --Jorunn 18:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

  • I have tried similar deletion requests and they have fallen on deaf ears but, yes, clearly - either delete the images or change the rules so that they only require compliance with US copyright law. Haukurth 21:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
    I should say transwiki to English Wikipedia rather than delete, I suppose. Haukurth 21:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Are you saying that this not a copyright infringement? Then why transfer? Or are you saying it is--and trying to breach it solely the US? Transfering imaging is hardly ever a solution. Here it clearly isn't!! --Ibn Battuta 16:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I think that the idea is: In en-Wikipedia, the images have to comply with the US law only. There we can use Bridgeman Art Library vs. Corel Corporation, as the photographs do not enjoy copyright protection. Here, on the Commons, we require that the images are PD in the source country, too. --MPorciusCato 20:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep When the author is dead for more than 70 years. Delete when the author is dead for less than 70 years (it doesn't seem the case anywhere here?). Some images should be renamed: Image:Avaldsnes på Karmøy 1920.jpg (1820), Image:Vesuv sett fra Castellammare 1920.jpg (1820), Image:Labrofossen 1929.jpg (1829). Yann 12:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
    Yann, this is the third time in a few weeks where you opine on a deletion request on this type and you never present any argument for why you think the images in question should be kept. Could you please do so? Haukurth 16:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
    Can you read what I have written above? I can understand that my arguments do not please you, but you cannot say that I do not have arguments, if you can read. Beside that, I am not alone here. You should also do some more research, as on the case you mention, the final decision was most of the time to keep the images. Yann 13:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
    I've read what you wrote. I've also read what you wrote in the other cases. In no case have you presented any argument as to why reproductive photography would not be protected by copyright in the relevant jurisdiction. Haukurth 20:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep see my (and other) comments on Commons_talk:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Nordic_countries Finn Rindahl 14:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep ---Nina- 18:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Arguments please?
The paintings have unknown photograph, we dont know who has taken the pictures and when and the art are in PD.---Nina- 17:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
It always goes the other way, if we don't know the source, we assume that it is not ok. Kjetil r 21:36, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Nina: Yes I also considered that some of the paintings might be of photos that are at least 50 years old. But several images are from a book published in the 1980's, for example Image:Blaaveis - G. Munthe 1891.jpg. I think that since the uploader nominated all his images, he should know where he got them from. Any photographical reproductions that can be proven to be more than 50 years old can of course stay on Wikipedia. / Fred J 22:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Ah, Image:Blaaveis - G. Munthe 1891.jpg is a photo by O. Væring. Their terms & conditions are here, they charge NOK 1500 ($250) per year for low resolution web usage. --Kjetil r 09:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep -- I believe this is based on an incorrect interpretation of Norwegian copyright law, see Commons_talk:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Nordic_countries. Cnyborg 18:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep, because the photos are digital reproductions of paintings that are now in the free. There are some people in Norway who claims that all photos are work of art but I strongly believe such claims are without any real substance. The paintings are known, so there are no first publications after a redescovery, the work of art are the main motive. and the main motive are now in the free. Jeblad 20:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
    No-one is claiming that these photographs are works of art, just that they are photographs. Even non-artistic photographs get a copyright term of at least 50 years in Norway. Haukurth 05:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
    I agree with Haukurth, Photographic pictures ("fotografiske bilder" in Norwegian) are indeed copyright protected in Norway, regardless of what they depict. We're all clear that the original works of art are PD here, and the question here is whether these files represent "photographic pictures" or simply "digital reproductions" of the PD-works they depict. The term photographic picture has not (to my knowledge) been precisly defined legally. I'm arguing that a copy made via a camera (at that's what these images are) isn't a photographic picture any more than a photoscan is. It can't be the medium of processing that defines copyright.Finn Rindahl 11:25, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Jeblad: Please refer to authoritative sources supporting your claims that photos are «digital reproductions» (I suppose you mean «eksemplarfremstilling»), as this view is rather unusual. --Kjetil r 08:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete . In any case, please do not close this request yet as a keep. According to latest posts at Commons_talk:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Nordic_countries (by myself and Samulii), it is more likely than not that they are indeed copyright violations. / Fred J 22:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Johan Krabbe-Knudsen: Fotografiske verk og fotografiske bilder, åndsverkloven § 1 og § 43a (CompLex 1/98, ISBN 82-518-3786-3), side 64:

Om man tar et fotografi av et maleri, vil dette være et fotografisk bilde etter åndsverkloven § 43a. Fotografiet har vern, men utnyttelsen av det vil avhenge av om maleriet er vernet. Uansett kan ingen anvende fotografiet selv om maleriet er falt i det fri. Vil en annen utnytte det, må han ha samtykke av fotografen. Alternativt kan han fotografere maleriet selv.

Ole-Andreas Rognstad i samarbeid med Birger Stuevold Lassen skriver i «Fragementer til en lærebok i opphavsrett» (Institutt for privatrett, UiO, stensilserie nr. 165 (2004)) side 146:

Dersom det er et åndsverk som f.eks. et maleri eller en tegning som er fotografert, vil resultatet være et eksemplar av både åndsverket og av det fotografiske bildet, og bruk av bildet kan bare skje dersom det er lovlig etter begge regelsett.

Therefore: A clear Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. --Kjetil r 08:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Next to certain probability: To scan, and make other use of another persons photograph is only legal for 50+ of photographic age. Art-photograps: 70+ after dying of artist. Photographic repro of paintings etc. goes on the 50yrs rule max. (dying and 70+ does not apply. This is craft, not art.)
Worst-case-scenario: Any work of art, where owner and photographer conspires, will be protected against PD-use for more than 120 years. (Law-makers may have made an oversight when making the rules, and we will need a Supreme Court (Høyesterett) sentencing to find out what is the law.)
Best case: To take a photograph of a well known picture is in itself a kind of mechanical procedure - yes, skill, knowledge and advancet technical apparatuses helps - but these are now more and more built-in features, of which we see no clear end - so this is like putting a graphic or draftsman work on a scanner. (Result improves with newer updates.) Scanner-copies cannot be considered photographs, since it is possible to robotize the process from putting a stack in the machine, via internal quality-control to receiving the finished copy. Main point: Scanners are sold without specific rules to what is "art" or not, and what use to put them.
I am afraid that the pessimistic wiew is the safer. But I seem to see no problem scanning art-work from books being 120 years or more. 70+ years seems also to be safe, exept with illustrations made specificly by long-living artists (death+70 rules). Repro-quality being what it was, we will have some pictures, but of worse resolution.
On the other hand: To take ones own photographs of PD-artworks can only be forbidden based on rules outside of the copyright-domain. Many museums say the flashlight may damage the paintings - so ok, use cameraprogram for available light and shoot away. Pics may need a good photo-editing-program to become acceptable, though. (Own experiences at home: It is possible even for fumblers.) My heart says to keep what we have, or move to safe storage, but my head says alas - lost case, and what do we do now? --Bjørn som tegner 11:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep A reproduction is not a photographic work in legal sense, as far as I can see. Grrahnbahr 16:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

  • It doesn't matter that it's not a work it's sufficient that it's a photograph. Above we have a quote from a Norwegian handbook on copyright law, written by a lawyer. It says plainly that photographs of paintings are protected. Do you have a quote from an authoritative source saying something else? Haukurth 17:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Lars G. Norheim: FOTO- OG OPPHAVSRETTSLIGE SPØRSMÅL VED MUSEENE (.pdf) is pretty clear about how photos of works of art are protected as simple photographs (and some even as works of art[!]). See section 3.6.2 "Fotografier av kunstverk", page 53-54. --Kjetil r 23:36, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Note that he deals with photographs of paintings and sculptures under the same heading. Previously he says: "Som et generelt holdepunkt – men heller ikke mer – kan det således sies at desto nærmere gjengivelsen ligger virkeligheten, desto lettere må fotografiet bedømmes som et bilde og ikke som et verk." Since we are most interested in photographs which closely represent reality I think we will be mostly dealing with simple photographs. Haukurth 10:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
The problem is when the book you use have no photocredit. Before 1995 there was spesial rules «Fotoloven» and this new «Åndsverksloven» have new rules regarding Photos. (lov 23 juni 1995 nr. 37 (se dens II, i kraft 30 juni 1995 iflg. res. 23 juni 1995 nr. 572 - som opphevet den tidligere lov om rett til fotografi av 17 juni 1960 nr 1)[27] I have books made before 1995 with no Photocredit what about them? ---Nina- 13:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
As always at Wikipedia/Commons: If you don't know, assume that they are © all rights reserved. It is anyways completely irrelevant that there were different rules prior to 1995, the new law works retroactively. --Kjetil r 13:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
No law is normally allowed to work retroactively, so why this? --Bjørn som tegner 18:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, there's retroactive and there's retroactive. A copyright law that criminalized behavior which happened in the past would run foul of normal legal standards but this doesn't. (It's still v. annoying, of course.) Haukurth 19:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
The Norwegian copyright law -- unlike for example the Swedish -- specifically applies to "åndsverk og andre arbeider fra før lovens ikrafttredelse." §60. / Fred J 20:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
The photography law was revised 1995, and pics taken before revision follows older rules (e.g. to be freed 15 yrs after death, but no less than 25 yrs from date of taking). There seems to be no retroactivity there. I quote the treatise Kjetil r cites somewhere further up (Lars G Norheim). I only suffered through the first chapter, and may have missed something, but it seemed very clear on that point. It seems to me that the law-makers, with the provision "fra før lovens ikrafttreden" are hedging, so that works still under protection, are to enjoy the prolongation - but that, ladies & gents, is as far as a lawmaker can go and still follow the words of the Constitution. I don't remember which paragraph, but: "No Law is to be made to work retroactively" has been there since 1814. The honoured Guild of Legalese-speakers had quite a job interpreting our tax-decisions (often coming a little late) into being non-retroactive, but I seriously doubt their ability do manage that miracle more than once. --Bjørn som tegner 09:06, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Norheim does not say that the law does not work retroactively, it says that simple photos that were already free are not put under copyright again. Simple photos that were still copyrighted in 1995 got thair copyright terms extended. --Kjetil r 12:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The Albert Edelfelt drawing Image:Albert Edelfelt - Sven Duva.jpg was first published in the 1890s and I made the digital reproduction with my own scanner. Jorunn, why have I not been notified of this deletion request? Which other contributors have not been notified? Thuresson 05:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

And what do you think about the rest of the images, which are mostly unsourced? --Kjetil r 08:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
We'll have to go through all of them. Scans of drawings are fine. Since earlier reproductions of paper drawings most likely were also made by a photomechanical process (doesn't get this "photo right"), I think those could be kept. E.g. Image:Döbeln vid Jutas - teckning av Albert Edelfelt.jpg and Image:Gustav IV Adolf - teckning av Albert Edelfelt.jpg. However, paintings typically are reproduced by first photographing them (this gets a "photo right") and then reproducing that photo (this doesn't get a new protection). For example Image:Albert Edelfelt-Självporträtt.jpg or Image:Albert Edelfelt-Gata i Borgå.jpg‎. Such images should go, unless it can be shown that the photograph must have been made so long ago that this "photo right" has expired. If the photographer or the year the photo was taken cannot be found, assume that the photo was taken in the year of the original publication of the reproduction of the photo. Lupo 13:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
For Norway, we may have a small bolthole in the law, by using the "right of quotation". A serious purpose (like us?) is granted the right to quote what is considered necessary to support whatever subject is tabled. Now we want to illustrate articles, but may have inadverently have stepped upon someone elses protected rights. So what we do is to reduce the number of pixels to the minimum necessary to illustrate the PD-ed work in a general way and delete the sinful ones. Some text about original autor may be at good thing, though. Alternatively, a razzia with cameras on available light-programs. Always assuming the paintings being in the free.--Bjørn som tegner 08:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - for a while. The amount of work involved in going through each and every picture is enormous. However, it must be done. Those images that are unsourced must be nominated individually and their uploaders notified. At least all the drawings by Albert Edelfelt that were made to illustrate Fänrik Ståhls sågner are PD, because they are most likely scanned. If not, PD versions may be found from Doria database where the works are definitely scans. Then, when we have completed the work of sourcing the images, we move all the unusable images to En-wikipedia where we can apply Bridgeman vs. Corel. --MPorciusCato 09:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment In Finland, the simple photographs are copyrighted for 50 years if they have been published after 1966. All simple photographs before that date are free. Therefore, the photographs taken in Finland of any paintings and published before 1966 are free. A photograph of a painting is not a "photographic work" because it has no originality. --MPorciusCato 09:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Finnish law seems to be somewhat different from the other three given that the Finnish copyright council has stated that Image:Paavo Nurmi sytyttää olympiatulen 1952.jpg isn't covered by copyright (see: former debate), so perhaps the Finnish case should be split off into a separate debate? Swedish, Norwegian and Danish law is to a large extent inspired by each other. Peter Schønning's Ophavsretten med kommentarer specifically mentions that Danish copyright law is supposed to function in sync with the other Scandinavian states. IANAL, but as I read the Danish law, §70, 2 covers anything below the threshold of originality. Mere mechanical scans are probably free. Valentinian (talk) 22:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Try to find out who took the photographs. If impossible or if photographers don't consent to publish the photographs: delete. (And stop whining about deleting images that are copyrighted. It sometimes feels like thieves are whining because they have to return their loot.) --Ibn Battuta 16:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Its complicated. To day I bougt a book Gløersen, Nikolai Astrup, Oslo 1954. Inside it tells «tekst Inger Alver Gløersen 12 Fargeplansjer etter Malerier og tresnitt». No photograf. This book are more than 50 years old and pictures inside I think will be PD. In a new book those pictures may be used, and no one knows who have made them. My point is we often dont know who and when pictures in a book have been made. I think that if the art are in PD and there are no names of a photograf we are not thieves.---Nina- 00:00, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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Symbol keep vote.svg Keep This is a reproduction. Jakro64 05:28, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Today, after the event of digital photography, developed mainly during the last 10 years, there is hardly any difference between electronic scanning (like on a Xerox machine) and a digital photography (like a picture taken with a Cannon or Nikon SLR camera). Now it is claimed in the above discussion that photography is an "art", and thus comes under a special law. But surely electronic scanning is not an art, for it is only a standard automatized industrial or office procedure. Now both electronic scanning as well as digital photography produce jpeg images as standard output. And it is not possible to tell whether a jpeg image was produced by an SLR camera or an electronic scanner: I, for example, often use a small digital camera to copy documents, and the images are no different from scanned images. Hence I'd say that whether you call an image a scan or a photo is immaterial: From a technical point of view, exactly the same technologies are used (optical lens system, rasterized CCD chip, digital memory chips for temporary storage and magnetic media (harddrives) or optical media (CD/DVD) for permanent storage.

But a scan is something that needs to be done to ANY 2-D image stored as an analogue image on some medium, whether canvas, paper or plastic, in order to put it on the internet. For scanning merely means a technology that changes an analogue image into a digital one. And all images accessible via the internet are digital images (which includes the so called vector images). Therefore, reason tells us that the copyright applies to the ORIGINAL image: Is it protected by any copyright? Then you can't copy it. Is it not protected by copyright, then you can copy it digitally and put the digital image on the internet, it is as simple as that. (People are copyrighted, right?) User: gangdagr, October 8, 2007.

Indeed the laws in these modern times are often lagging behind new technology. However, photography is expressly covered by the copyright law, and all the references me and others have found and mentioned on Commons talk:When to use the PD-Art tag agree that these kind of photographs are protected. The law in Scandinavian countries give protection for photographs -- period. All Scandinavian judicial experts agree.
Fred J 16:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Especially Finnish law is different in this case; there is no point discussing images from four different countries at once, it doesn't make sense to discuss / delete them at once. In this comment I'm not saying all images should be kept, but it's ridiculous to request all images uploaded by some user to be deleted as they are under different legislation. Waste of work and time, really. If not anything else, split the Finnish images to a different nom. --Pudeo 21:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment (moved from Village Pump) It is noted that many of 'Jorunn's" images including that of the Wild Hunt (Aasgaardreinen peter nicolai arbo mindre.jpg) and numerous others are set for deletion. It is hoped that the decision for deletion will be reconsidered as many of these images are both Artistically and Historically significant, to delete them would be akin to burning books.

Profs. Lawrence A. Starrthe preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.244.42.13 (talk • contribs)

This is a copyright issue. If a book is copyrighted, one may not claim it is public domain.
Perhaps the images are not copyrighted on English Wikipedia? Then please transfer them there. It should also be possible to use them there claiming "fair use". Commons, on the other hand, is for free contents.
Fred J 16:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Good comparision, Professor. However, as many times seen here, deletionists have no shame. It just needs to fit their agenda, no matter whether the issue is ridiculous or waste of time, or just stupid copyright paranoia. Again the rules are original research of laws, the Finnish law atleast does not mention photos of art at all. There isn't a single case in courts changing the status quo, so here we go with the deletionists again.. --Pudeo 10:00, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
What does Finnish copyright law § 49 say? And if you had read Commons talk:When to use the PD-Art tag#Nordic countries you would have noticed Samulili 19:55, 8 September 2007 Pirkko-Liisa Haarmann (2006, pp. 281) writes: "Also he who slavishly strives to follow a certain model receives protection for his images." ("Suojaa saa niin ikään se, joka orjallisesti pyrkii valokuvissaan seuraamaan tiettyä esikuvaa.")
Fred J 10:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
It says a photographer has the rights to the photo, as modified or unmodified, to publish or distribute his/her photo. This right lasts for 50 years. It doesn't say a thing about the question whether photo of someone's else work is copyrighted. That is 2D art, requires no originality for the photographes. Can Samulili link a court case here? Otherwise it seems bit funny to remove such paintings, thinking Wikimedia would be first one to be sued. Talk about copyright paranoia. I never even had thought one could claim an image of painting could be copyrighted to the photographer, this is not recognised. We are not lawyers, why we should research some law articles, when there isn't a single court case deciding them? --Pudeo 11:13, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, to me it seems to be a very bad idea to go against both the juridical experts and the written law, just because there is no legal case. Maybe you want Commons to be the first legal case? / Fred J 15:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete 1) To my mind, Wikimedia Commons should be the lowest common denominator of all laws of all countries, and not a United-States-centered place. 2) We should avoid Jorunn any trouble, and comply with his request 3) The people who favor keeping should at least allow the pictures to be deleted in a first time to comply with Jorunn's request, and re-upload them themselves in a subsequent time. 4) This is somewhat similar to my own request Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Bonnat21.jpg (France). Teofilo 09:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Wikimedia's servers are located in the U.S., and in the U.S., these images are PD. BrianSmithson 02:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Is not the issue of copyright down to if, or not, the original painting is in the public domain. If the original is in a private collection or in a private display seen only by payment and can only be photographed with special permission and /or payment, then any subsequent photograph is copyrighted. If however the original is in the public domain then any photograph made of it is considered a derivative work and also therefore public domain. Richard Harvey 12:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I notice that nobody who can read Scandinavian and voted keep has commented on my previous post, so I'll post it again, translated into English:

Johan Krabbe-Knudsen: Photographic woks and photographic images, the Norwegian Copyright Act §1 and §43a (CompLex 1/98, ISBN 82-518-3786-3), page 64:

“If one takes a photograph of a painting, it would be a photographic image as defined in the Norwegian Copyright Act §43a. The photograph is protected [by copyright], but how it is used depends on whether the image is protected [by copyright]. In any case, nobody may use the photograph even though the painting is public domain. If somebody wants to use it, he has to get consent from the photographer. He may alternatively photograph the painting himself.”

Ole-Andreas Rognstad in cooperation with Birger Stuevold Lassen: Fragments of a textbook in copyright law, Institute of Private Law, the University of Oslo (2004), page 146:

“If it is a work of art as for example a painting or a drawing that is photographed, the result will be a copy of both the work of art and the photographic image, and use of the image can only happen if it is legal in both sets of rules.”

Maybe some of the users who are voting keep can comment on these authoritative sources? --Kjetil r 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Individual images that are not photographs but scans

  • I agree, with all my heart! If, for some reason these people, that in plain Finnish generally are addressed as "point fuckers", manage to have these pictures deleted, I happen to have in my possession a specimen of Fänrik Ståls sägner from 1883, illustrated by another, not so well known artist. I believe that those illustrations without doubt are in public domain, so please give me a hint in that case! -Islander 22:20, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Sorry I didn't read through all of this, but these seem perfectly PD as far as the U.S. and our servers go. What if I make new copies of these images and upload them? Would this hypothetically change anything since I'm in the U.S.? According to my government the photographer doesn't own the copyright - the original artist does (which is now expired). My copy could be treated as a direct copy of the original work meaning PD for everyone. Yeah, I know logic and copyright laws don't mix. Rocket000 18:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

All kept. The author has died 70 years prior and hence these images are all in the public domain. I have restored a few images that were deleted. -- Cat ちぃ? 22:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Reopened. Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag#Nordic countries. Regardless of when the painter died, photographers have an exclusive right to their photographs for 50 years. Thuresson 04:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

U.S. copies can be supplied if you want to get technical, but a copy is a copy as far as I'm concerned. Maybe the uploader was wrong to upload these in the first place by violating their country's laws, but it's not wrong to keep these. Because the image is now on our severs, only the painter has (had) the copyright. We can't change that. It would be copyfraud to say any different. Rocket000 13:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
BTW Thuresson, this is not a legal issue (clearly PD in the U.S.), but a Commons policy issue and thus should be decided by consensus. I think it was wrong to reopen this just because you disagreed. Even if you feel there's enough reason to renominate these, it's way too soon. Deleting some of the images (which I restored) was also wrong. You did this twice now. Please wait for discussions to be closed before acting. Rocket000 14:13, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
This closure was a complete non-sequitur which didn't address any of the actual concerns. It doesn't even give the impression that the admin read the page. As for deleting images, I think it is preferable to transwiki them to English Wikipedia. Haukurth 23:35, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Why? That diminishes Commons' role. If they're PD, they belong on Commons. The closure was in-line with consensus. Rocket000 23:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

If we are keeping these photos, we should make some changes to Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag#Nordic countries. My suggestions are in bold below:

Nordic countries

Generally Nuvola apps error.png Not OK. In Denmark (Article 70), Finland (Article 49 a), Norway (Article 43 a), Sweden (Article 49 a), and Iceland (§49), anyone who has produced a photographic picture has an exclusive right to reproduce the picture and to make it available to the public. This right subsists until 50 years have elapsed from the year in which the picture was produced (15 years p.m.a. but at least 50 years in Norway). However, the Wikimedia Commons community has decided that American laws shall be applied to Norwegian photos, so all Norwegian PD-art images are Symbol OK.svg OK per Bridgeman Art Library -v- Corel Corporation<ref>[[Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Jorunn (uploaders request)]]</ref>

Photographic reproductions from these countries enter the public domain when both the copyrights on the original and this neighboring right on the photograph have expired. Recent photos are thus never OK (apart from Norwegian photos), but older ones may be (if the original is in the public domain). These countries had until the 1990s shorter terms for this photography right.

  • Iceland: Symbol OK.svg OK before January 1, 1957. Iceland has a term of 50 years since creation.
  • Norway: Always Symbol OK.svg OK before January 1, 1970 if the photographer died before January 1, 1980 Norway had a term of 25 years since creation (but at least 15 years p.m.a.) until 1995. If the photographer died later or the picture was taken later, the current terms apply.[28]
  • Sweden: Symbol OK.svg OK before January 1, 1969. Sweden had a term of 25 years until 1994.
  • Finland: Symbol OK.svg OK before January 1, 1966. Finland had a term of 25 years until 1991.
  • Denmark: Symbol OK.svg OK before January 1, 1970. Denmark had a term of 25 years until 1995. (§91, 5 in the current law).[29]

However, mechanical reproduction such as photocopying and scanning are not mentioned in the laws, and are probably Symbol OK.svg OK. Similarly, reprints using old etchings and copper-plates should not be protected.

Kjetil r 02:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Um.. we could, but that's there to inform users what they can and can't upload (and possible reuse) depending on where they live, not what we host. Two different things. And U.S. laws don't apply to Norwegian photos, it's just once they're in the U.S., we have to follow our laws. Legally we make no distinction between the original paintings and these copies. We can not give say others hold the copyright, when they don't. It doesn't matter where these copies are made (they're currently being made in the U.S. every time someone downloads the image from our servers). It only matters where copyrighted material is created. These are PD and cannot be re-copyrighted. BTW, I know you were being facetious, but maybe we should make the policy a little clearer. Rocket000 03:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not being facetious. Have you actually read Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag? It specifically says that "If you want to upload to Commons a copy of a photograph originally taken by somebody else, you have to be able to demonstrate [...] that under local law and that of the U.S., the photograph is not original enough to qualify for copyright protection." Norwegian copyright law does give photos of 2D art protection as simple photographs. None of the users voting “keep” has given a reliable source that claims that they are not. The same users have not addressed the arguments of the sources I have have presented. We can therefore not both keep these photos and have a policy saying that such photos are against policy. That is why I suggest that we amend our policy, so that these images do not violate it. --Kjetil r 07:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

From Commons:Licensing:

"When uploading material from a country outside the US, the copyright laws of that country and the US apply. If material that has been saved from a third-party website is uploaded to Commons, the copyright laws of the US, the country of residence of the uploader, and the country of location of the web servers of the website apply. Thus, any licence to use the material should apply in all relevant jurisdictions; if the material is in the public domain, it must be in the public domain in all these jurisdictions (plus in the country of origin of the work) for it to be allowable on Commons.

Upload the disputed photos to English Wikipedia and tag them with "Template:Do not move to Commons":

Public licenseFlag of the United States.svg

Do not copy this file to Wikimedia Commons.
This image is in the public domain in the United States but is NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN IN ITS COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. Commons only accepts files that are public domain in both country of origin and the United States. See en:Template talk:PD-US, Commons:Licensing, Wikipedia:Public domain and Wikipedia:Copyrights for more details.

It has always been standard practice at WikiCommons that photos that are not public domain in the country of origin can not be uploaded to WikiCommons. Innumerable images that are public domain in the US have been deleted before, see for example:

Thuresson 07:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

That doesn't apply here because there is nothing copyrightable in making a copy in the first place. If the paintings were PD here but not in another country then it would apply and we should delete them, but that's not the case. You can't tell one copy apart from another so technically anyone anywhere can make the exact same thing and release under their county's laws. Since these copies are originating from the U.S. (severs), so they are now PD. (sorry, if that doesn't make sense, I need sleep) Rocket000 10:58, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Have you ever tried taking a photo of a painting? One can certainly tell one copy apart from the other. Compare Image:Leonardo da Vinci 042.jpg to Image:La gioconda.jpg, for example. --Kjetil r 12:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I have taken photos of paintings, and you are able to change it in photoshop. The real question is who have taken the picture of the painting, and are we able to read this in the book we are scanning from ? If not who have the rights? I have books that are more than 50 years old with no name of the photografer and the pictures are named «plansjer». I think I am free too use them and noone can tell whitch picture is from this book because the modern scanners are able to scan without «raster» (I dont know the english word] ---Nina- 22:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh yes, if those photographs are from a book that old, the copyright (of "simple photographs") has expired. The rastering of the images is not a creative process, so I do not think it creates any further copyrights. If you scan from the book, those images are very clearly PD. --MPorciusCato 06:35, 4 January 2008 (UTC)--MPorciusCato 06:35, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, Kjetil r. Upon rereading this discussion, I think I was misinterpreting what you were saying. You're right the policy and the conclusion here don't appear to really line up, so either one or the other should change. However, just like for copies of PD-art made in Germany, I don't interpret these as copyrighted in their country of origin. The confusion was not over countries' PD but countries' definition (and our personal interpretations) of "copy" and "derivative". That being, I don't know of any country that gives rights to someone simply for making a copy. If they did, I can make a copy of these copies (all rights would transfer to me as they supposedly did for these photographers), then the country of origin would be the U.S. and it would be PD for everyone. In countries where it wouldn't be PD, and they actually would give me the rights, I would release them all. Of course I wouldn't recognize (nor care about) the original photographer's copyright, as that's copyfraud in my country. Those two images you mentioned above could have been the exact same photo at one point. It's not logical (nor possible) to assign new rights to these. If you did, whoever makes a copy first would then own the copyright. Any other copies other people made would be too similar and they couldn't prove they didn't use the copy instead of the painting itself. We have to be logical here no matter how you might interpret the policy. Rocket000 08:02, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
File:My Royal Castle.jpg
Copyvio? It certainly is!
I really really doubt that those two Mona Lisas could be from the same photograph, there is certainly no reason to assume so or to base any conclusion on the idea that they "could" have been. As for "all rights would transfer to me as they supposedly did for these photographers", that's confused. There are no rights to Mona Lisa to begin with - but photographs of Mona Lisa can still have rights associated with them. Certainly no country will grant you a copyright monopoly for merely copying a file, as you are clearly aware of. Your argument seems to rest on the idea that two photographs of the same painting are always indistinguishable and that's just clearly not true. Try comparing the two pictures Kjetil pointed out in an image manipulation program. Or if you're still not convinced, what about Image:Mona Lisa detail hands.jpg? What would be your case for public domain status of that picture? Haukurth 10:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't talking about Mona Lisa, but all the images listed on this deletion request (along with any thing else that's in the same boat). Yes, they did have rights to begin with - the painters had those rights.
Ok, so what is my Mona Lisa a derivative of? Which of the above photos did I use? What photographer's rights am I violating? (For the sake of argument, let's pretend both where taken by Norwegian photographers (all rights reserved) in the last five years). BTW, I suck photoshop and never use it. Someone that knows what they're doing can really make this hard. Rocket000 11:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Another thing, I didn't say "indistinguishable", I said close enough. Slight alterations don't transfer rights. Rocket000 11:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok, so which photo is my Royal Palace a derivative of? Which of the photos in Category:Slottet did I use (please do not look at the metadata)? Are you seriously claiming that just because it is hard to find the original photo, the photographer's rights are null and void? --Kjetil r 13:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Before I play this game ;) I just want to point out I wasn't claiming that photographer's rights are null and void because it is hard to find the original photo, I was claiming that a copy is copy, what you have done is made a derivative work, not a copy. Rocket000 14:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok, my guess is Image:Det Kongelige Slott.jpg, though it could be from a couple others. (I can see how this could actually be a game :-) Proving a copyvio in this case would be pretty hard. Maybe it wasn't distorted enough, but there may be no copyvio here at all. I don't want to argue this because we're talking about the derivative threshold. Let's stay focused on defining a "copy" like I claim my Mona Lisa is. Please argue why it's not. Rocket000 14:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Why? Is anyone arguing that it's not a copy? The whole point is that we have good reason to believe that reproductive photography (which deals in the production of 'copies', right?) is protected by neighboring rights in Norway (and some other places). Personally I'm happy to change policy so that we require only compliance with US law - but that doesn't seem to be the current order of things. Haukurth 16:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
BTW, kudos to both of you for making me laugh with this little game of yours :) Haukurth 16:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

(←)So it's only copies that are made a certain way, (i.e. photographing) that get protection? I'm sorry this really doesn't make sense to me. I did think you guys were arguing that these photographs weren't copies. You did say "no country will grant you a copyright monopoly for merely copying a file", but now your saying by copying a image with a camera some countries grant you that right. If this is true, I'm sorry, but that's a silly law (or our interpretation of it), and our policy should change. (I feel bad for the people that live there.) What makes a camera so special? There's a lot more creative input when creating a copy with say Photoshop. Rocket000 17:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I can only refer you to the quotations above. Some countries, Norway included, grant a blanket neighboring rights monopoly for photographs. Legal scholarship says that this applies even to reproductive photography. I, too, would prefer not to have this law but there you go. Haukurth 23:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
So I guess I've been arguing against some country's laws. Well, there's no point in that so I'll stop. Thanks for clarifying that for me. Rocket000 02:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I would like to note that still, the deletion request lists images which have not been copied using photograhpic process. I have listed them a few screens upwards, and Fred J has concurred with my suggestion. I suggest we Symbol keep vote.svg Keep those and Symbol delete vote.svg Delete the rest. --MPorciusCato 12:02, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

  • For those interested in redefining (or not) our policy on this issue, comments are welcome here. As for these specific images, I still think we should keep them, but I may change my mind depending on the responses my comment at the Village Pump gets. Regardless of what I think, we have to make sure there's no discrepancy between our decision here and our policy. Even if there isn't, we have some things to clarify. Rocket000 00:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Closed as delete per FredJ and MPorciusCato. There are ample citations here and at Commons talk:When to use the PD-Art tag that show that these images are indeed copyrighted in their source country. The files will be deleted once a bot has moved them to the English Wikipedia. The few files that have been listed above as plain scans will be kept. Lupo 08:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Busy deleting & transfering. Don't hold your breath, I'll post here once it is done. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Done. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:44, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry but this is nonsense. A photo of a building is not a copyvio in Norway, nor is a photo of art on a building. The comparison done in a previous photo is a wild guess and in error. A photo of art like a painting will not renew the copyright status, not in Norway and most countries. A photo with an unknown source is not based upon a "guess when he will die" -method, it is based upon when it is made and possibly when it is made public. And finaly, the norwegian laws on this matter has changed several times in the time frame discussed. Also there are several cases where there are made no distiction between scanning and "mechanical photograping". Perhaps you guys should try to read the actual laws before you starts wild guessing. 87.248.13.41 20:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you should find some authoritative sources supporting your view, or respond to the sources I have provided which clearly says that photos of PD-art get protection as simple photographs. --Kjetil r 22:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Undelete everything in the list because of the policy on {{PD-Art}}. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:13, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:Trademarked-Tolkien

It seems that is a category with derivative works: Commons:Derivative worksAlx 91

  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment -- we are discussing something relating to the existance of this template at Commons talk:Fan art. That discussion should first come to a conclusion, which this deletion request ought to follow. / Fred J 21:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment - trademark law is separate from copyright law. We can use a company's trademark without creating any GFDL issues, so long as we comply with its copyright. I'll comment there. Quadell (talk) 12:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Padaungfrauen_mit_schwerenMessingringen_umHals_undBeine.jpg

PD-Old does not apply, Georg Buschan died in 1942. Rotkraut 15:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Additional infos: According to the description page the image was taken from the book Die Sitten der Völker by Dr. Georg Buschan. This book appeared in 1910. Georg Buschan died in 1942. See for instance [30]. So if the image was taken by Georg Buschan himself, it will enter into PD at January 1rst 2013. Btw. PD-Art is wrong in any case, PD-Old would be appropriate if the author would have died more then 70 years ago. --Rotkraut 15:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Book from before 1925 is PD in USA where wikimedia have home. All images from Die Sitten der Völker is also printed in English books, from before 1925. Have you any knowledge about copyright or pay for copyright ever? If yes also for German images from before 1945? The German state is a union, by only the name and language common by the earlier German states. haabet 18:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
It may be PD in the US, but it is copyrighted in Germany, the country of the first publication, and as a result is also copyrighted in most countries in the world. --Rotkraut 23:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Copyright is law in USA and after this law is all images printed before 1925 PD, in USA, and the rest of the world is unimportant because Commons is in USA.
Germany is a new state from 1945 and have no Copyright, but have artists privilege, on art work created of the artist. The photographer have/had the artists privilege of a photo, and a artist of whole book. But some photo is not a whole book. And if the successors or a artist still claim about money your can delete, and that is the end. The judicial system of USA is sick. A great part of your production go up in justice and insurance against proceedings. But remaining is more rational. Georg Buschan dead without intestate successor and print before the law of the artists privilege. Both cause give PD haabet 00:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
A gallery from Die Sitten der Völker, only a selection. Many had discuss the copyright but every time the image had survive. haabet 08:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete There's no photographer given for this image, so indeed we have no way of knowing whether the copyright on this image has really expired. (It's unclear whether Buschan was the photographer. Note that the copyright, whoever holds or held it, runs until 70 years after the photographer's death. So, if Buschan did not take the photo, his year of death is irrelevant.) I also don't understand why we would need this image given that we have e.g. Image:Kayan woman with neck rings.jpg. Lupo 21:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. Just a stupid question: were these images taken in either Malaysia or Indonesia, or is German law the relevant code to resort to given the place of publication? Indonesian law seems to be relatively lax regarding photographs. {{PD-IDOld-Art30}} Valentinian (talk) 18:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
  • (comment) -- Would be inclined to vote to keep the images if it can be verified that the book is out of copyright in the United States. Churchh 10:54, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: These images are absolutely PD in the U.S. If these images were on the English Wikipedia, we would keep them and tag them {{PD-US}}. But on Commons, our standard is usually that the images must be PD in their country of origin. If these images were first published in Malaysia, then we can keep them, since Malaysia honors copyright for 50 years after the creator's death. But if they were first published in Germany, we can't. Quadell (talk) 12:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
    • And according to this, the first edition of the book was published in "Stuttgart-Berlin-Leipzig", which is Germany. Germany (retroactively) honors copyright for life+70, so it's copyrighted in it's country of origin. Quadell (talk) 12:26, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Stuttgart, Berlin and Leipzig", is to day the Federal Republic of Germany. And the Federal Republic of Germany is from 1957. All laws before 1957 is canceled. All new laws start from the date of carry of the new laws.haabet 15:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
No, that's not true. Copyright held by organizations before 1957 are still in effect now. As a signitory to the Berne Convention, Germany retroactively applied "life plus 70" to all works created by residents of the Third Reich, DDR, and BRD. Quadell (talk) 16:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
This is a serious wikimedia problem. Any newspaper pay Copyright for black and white photo from before 1940. Also photographically artwork from 1939 been used without Copyright. The explanation is historical. At that time the colour photograph been common, about 1950, the photographers stop the use of licence on the old black and white photos becorse the mony was in the new colour photos. Ask your newspaper, tell as you have need to use a black and white photo in a article, but do not know the the copyright for the photo. They will tell what you do in a newspaper (and on wikimedia).haabet 11:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Seal_Bangkok.png

Image may be subject to copyright; need help in uploading to other wikis for use as non-free media Paul_012 (talk) 20:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I could not upload the image to the English Wikipedia because it still existed on Commons. However, this was the description I had:

The seal of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration shows the god Indra riding in the clouds on Erawan, a mythological elephant-shaped creature. In his hand Indra holds Vajra (a lightning bolt), which is his weapon to drive away drought. This seal which is based on a painting done by Prince Narisara Nuvativongse is designed by Fine Arts Department of Thailand.
Source: From Royal Thai Government Gazette[http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2516/A/070/218.PDF]
Date: 31 May 1973
Author: Fine Arts Department, Thailand

===Licensing===
{{Non-free symbol}}
{{Non-free logo}}

=== Fair use rationale ===
Though this image may be subject to copyright, it is believed that its use falls under fair use according to U.S. copyright laws because:

# An emblem can only exist in one design, and therefore cannot be replaced with an uncopyrighted or freely licensed alternative.
# Use of the emblem is restricted by law, and its use for educational purposes on the English Wikipedia is unlikely to affect the parties which own copyright to the image.
# The image itself is a primary subject of discussion in the article [[Bangkok]].

--Paul_012 (talk) 20:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Somebody needs to check Thai law, since this image is only part of an entire collection. See: Category:Provincial seals of Thailand. Valentinian (talk) 11:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
They are covered by different decrees, as Bangkok is technically a special administrative area rather than a province, but I am discussing the issue with the uploader on En: Paul_012 (talk) 15:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
According to th:ตราประจำจังหวัดของไทย, Most of the other provinces' seals have been in use since 1941, and were designed by the Fine Arts Department (now under the Ministry of Culture) of Thailand. Thai copyright law grants a copyright term of 50 years after publication for works of art by legal entities (governmental agencies included), so they would appear to be in the Public Domain. The Bangkok seal, however, would still be copyrighted, so it needs to be migrated. Paul_012 (talk) 07:15, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Provincial seals are what the government กำหนด. Therefore section 7 - (3) must be applicable.--Ananda 05:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The Thai Wikipedia refers to the aforementioned Section 7 to describe government logos as public domain. For your benefit th:s:พระราชบัญญัติลิขสิทธิ์ พ.ศ. ๒๕๓๗#มาตรา ๗ is a link for the Thai version of the 1995 law added by Paul_012. Erzengel 21:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I am familiar with the Act. Section 7, however, refers to the bodies of governmental documents and not specific images themselves. Paul_012 (talk) 18:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, section 7 - (3) does not apply to seals created by the Thai government. Quadell (talk) 12:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted: Copyrighted and non-free. Quadell (talk) 18:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:CumShot.jpg

I am a gay homo -- Drini 01:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, --Polarlys 12:04, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Anitablond.jpg

Seems to be obvious copyvio ----Benhello! 01:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete no source; seems to be a copyvio. --Boricuaeddie 02:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Obvious copyright violation. Yann 11:14, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Carmella_Bing.jpg

seems to be obvious copyvio --Benhello! 01:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete no source; seems to be a copyvio. --Boricuaeddie 02:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Polarlys: copyright violation, see Commons:Licensing

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[edit] Image:Broekhof.jpg

Wrong filename; Broekhoff.jpg is correct name and that file is already uploaded Robotje 11:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, duplicate from Image:Broekhoff.jpg, Pimke 06:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:20204068.jpg

No source or author specified for more than a week. --Boricuaeddie 20:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by MECU: In category Unknown as of 31 August 2007; no source

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[edit] Image:Muhammeds Great Gun.jpg

Source not specified. NSD got reverted by uploader. It doesn't matter that the uploader owns (a copy of) this image; we need to know who this "John Bachelor" is or was. Lupo 11:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete No evidence that permission has been obtained to copy this image. --MichaelMaggs 12:04, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete I have the strong feeling it's actually from History of Artillery by John Batchelor.[31] Lupo 12:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - I own the image, I purchased it at EBay. Canuck 18:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Ownership of a physical copy or original of a work does not mean that you owned the copyrights on the work. Lupo 07:13, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:2pac biggie tribute.jpg

reproduction of unfree painting (most likely done with unfree photos ...) --Polarlys 12:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by --Digon3 talk reproduction of unfree painting

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[edit] Image:Michael_Dukakis_standing.jpg

Wrongly labeled PD-US-Gov. Taken from here: http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=mg2terminal&L=7&L0=Home&L1=State+Government&L2=About+Massachusetts&L3=Interactive+State+House&L4=History+Resources&L5=Governors+of+Massachusetts&L6=Commonwealth+of+Massachusetts+(1950-present)&sid=massgov2&b=terminalcontent&f=interactive_statehouse_govs_dukakis&csid=massgov2, where it says "Painting by Gardner Cox, 1983". I do not see ANY evidence that this is a work of the federal US Government. Rosenzweig 14:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom, until 70 years pma for artist/author Gardner Cox, which will be in 2058[32].   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 03:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Speedy; copyright violation with incorrect licence. Source has clear copyright notice. -- Infrogmation 01:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Obvious copyright vio. Per web site notice], site makes no claims of free content for work featured on its site. This image has a author noted who is not currently eligible for US-PD lic. FloNight♥♥♥ 23:16, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Jelly_roll_morton.jpg

Usage of PD-tag is definatle not plausible. Even usage of PD-US would be questionable. Dr. Shaggeman 12:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Poorly sourced yoinked from web with no evidence of PD status. (There are a number of other photos of Morton known to predate '23 and thus of PD-US status; this one appears to be a bit later from his Chicago recording period of the mid '20s-- no reason to just assume some PD status unless evidence of such is presented.) -- Infrogmation 01:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete due to unclear date.--Londoneye 14:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Scientology_Tone_scale.jpg

This is a copyright violation. It's a photograph of an illustration published by the Church of Scientology, who owns the copyright for it. 83.177.12.41 17:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Seems to be copyvio.--Londoneye 14:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Images of Cadenamado1

All photos of User:Cadenamado1 are suspected copyvios --Edub 14:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I think he is uploading images obviously copyvio like Image:Gwen-Aviator-Gwen.jpg to Flickr, then he is uploading the same images to Commons with source flickr. Sorry for my english. --Edub 14:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, you are right. We need a flickr blacklist for the bot. --Polarlys 16:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:SchindlerHouse00001a.png

Also Image:SchindlerHouse00001a.gif Image:SchindlerHouse00002a.png Image:SchindlerHouse00003a.png Image:SchindlerHouse00004a.png Image:SchindlerHouse00005a.png PNGs and GIFs this large do not work. I've replaced them all with Image:SchindlerHouse_plans.djvu which contains all the pages. Djvu is a much better format for this material. It's much smaller, transfers faster, and the viewer is excellent. Integration with Mediawiki is good... and they actually work unlike PNGs and GIFs. --Gmaxwell 15:25, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete - No need to retain these images. Nick 22:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Won't display anyway.--Londoneye 14:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted: Don't display, superceded. WjBscribe 18:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Flag_of_the_League_of_Arab_States.png

I know, it used in many pages ,but it's flag should be SVG. it easy replace using the bot! OsamaK 16:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom; SVG is superior.--Londoneye 14:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment - Which bot are you talking about..? Yuval Y § Chat § 23:59, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

kept (we do not delete superseded images any more) --ALE! ¿…? 07:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Vonnegut_jumala_teita_siunatkoon.jpg

copyright infringement Doo-dle-doo 18:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete if it can be shown to be a copyvio.--Londoneye 14:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 07:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:FletcherHendersonOrchestra1925.jpg

I am really sorry to say that but since the name of the author is not given PD70+ is not a suitable license for this image. Dr. Shaggeman 10:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

And I think so is PD-US. Dr. Shaggeman 13:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I uploaded this photo early in my "wiki-career", and at the time I was under the impression that the rule that photos that had been published in Sweden before 1944 were all PD. Since then I've realized that this is probably only true for photos that are also of Swedish origin, so I assume it's tecjhnically correct to delete this picture (though it's a pity and I find it hard to believe that anyone would be offended by its presence). /FredrikT 17:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
You can believe me, I believe it too. Maybe you should check the rules on sv.WP. Dr. Shaggeman 17:39, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Original photo no doubt taken in USA; I don't believe Henderson's band toured internationally in this era (IIRC they had a regular residency in NYC at the time). Alas not quite old enough to be clearly PD-US. Many US photos of this era are PD as laws of the time required filing and renewals, but alas unless we have any specific info that copyright was not renewed or that it is PD for any other reason, Symbol delete vote.svg Delete -- Infrogmation 00:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete On the basis of the above, seems to be copyvio.--Londoneye 14:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted per nom. Sorry. -- Cecil 14:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:List_prof_Zenona_Ostalczyka.jpg

It was written by a person, who wanted to post this here. It is possible to share this because this is a letter not an article

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep but only if evidence is provided that copyright holder has given permission.--Londoneye 14:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. No proof of permission. -- Cecil 14:34, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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The uploader blanked the description twice without any explanation. Need comments. Jusjih 18:29, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


Kept. Without a really good explanation, the revocation of contributed material is not allowed. Since the uploader brought no reason at all, revoking not allowed. Should he not refrain from blanking the page, the image can and will be protected (it's on my watchlist). -- Cecil 15:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Flag of Oviedo.svg

The coat of arms is incorrect. The cross in the center is the Cross of Victory (an Asturian symbol), but it should be the Cross of Angels (a symbol of Oviedo) instead. Correct (and older) version here: Uvieu flag.svg--Mikel 00:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Better image available.--Londoneye 14:23, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Replaced and deleted. Cecil 12:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Sidorkianica.jpg

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Unsourced copyright statement, image with uncleared copyright on the Slovak Wikipedia AtonX 08:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

  • This image is under copyrighted free use, so it cannot be deleted. --Wizzard 08:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
    • There is no proof about the alleged copyrighted free use. --AtonX 09:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete as AtonX --Maros 22:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep --Wizzard 22:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Under what justification? We are missing your arguments, except that you are the uploader, who faked the license. --AtonX 07:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
      • I don't understand your "arguments", image is copyrighted free use, the author allowed to use the images from his page, it is written here.
Slovenčina: Práve mi došiel mail od Eduarda Veleckého, ktorým uvoľňuje ktorúkoľvek z jeho fotografií zverejnených na stránke SBZ na voľné použitie.
English: I just got an e-mail from Eduard Velecký, that he allows to free use any of his pictures from SBZ website.
Additionally, you deleted correct license and nominated the image to delete with no proper reason. --Wizzard 11:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I dont see any proper reason to delete this image. --Liso 11:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep To sk.wikipedia i upload image and author Eduard Velecky know about this. --Otm 12:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Can we, please, see a proof (e-mail from the author) about the licensing conditions, as stated by the author himself? We have not seen any yet. Thank you. --AtonX 13:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


kept. An email from author was recieved in OTRS, where he grants a free license. ~~helix84 21:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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spelling error in file name. The previous unsigned comment was made on 10 September 2007 by User:Luis Fernández García

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete {{duplicate}} Image:Thysanoptera1.jpg Deadstar (msg) 10:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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Wrtong rirle: re-uploaded as Image:Metropolitana Milanese M3 Cantiene Affori centro 080807.jpg Guam 13:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by --Digon3 talk Badname, please use the {{badname}} tag for next time.

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[edit] Image:Seattle - Immanuel Lutheran interior 05.jpg

Camera shake; we have other good images in Category:Immanuel Lutheran Church (Seattle); I didn't look closely enough at this picture before I uploaded. - Jmabel | talk 16:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete - I had initially tagged this with a speedydelete notice, which User:Jusjih reverted. Its a bad image. I accidentally uploaded it. We have plenty of good images of the same place. I noticed my mistake and requested removal within two minutes of the upload. I would think that surely this accidentally uploaded useless image can be removed speedily. However, User:Jusjih insists a normal deletion process, so I have listed it. - Jmabel | talk 16:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Comment: on my user talk page, Jusjih informs me "Images with bad quality can be deleted only by posting to Commons:Deletion requests per Commons:Deletion guidelines, so I cannot speedily delete for you unless you have a better replacement ready." It seems crazy that if I accidentally upload a bad image (and, clearly, since I just uploaded it no one is using it) I have to go through all this rigamarole to undo my mistake. I have been uploading several dozen (often over 100) pictures a week, and no one is perfect. - Jmabel | talk 16:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete as uploader requests it for a good reason. It is a poor quality image and Commons has others of the same location. FloNight♥♥♥ 21:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by --Digon3 talk Requested by uploader, poor quality

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[edit] Image:391043436 072bd1f451.jpg

Stupid file name. Who is that guy? And, as noted below on the page, no source information. --KAMiKAZOW 21:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC) --KAMiKAZOW 21:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


Speedily deleted. ~ Riana 14:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Dubbo,_Australia.jpg

Google Earth image, claimed as USGS public domain Fehrgo 02:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

At the time of uploading I requested copyright advice from a US Wiki Admin, I was advised that the original satellite image was provided through USGS from NASA. Which meant that as it was from a US Federal Dept it was public domain. There is also this section in Wikipedia on the Google Earth article under the section:- Copyright - Currently, every image created from Google Earth using satellite data provided by Google Earth is a copyrighted map. Any derivative from Google Earth is made from copyrighted data which, under United States Copyright Law, may not be used except under the licenses Google provides. Google allows non-commercial personal use of the images (e.g. on a personal website or blog) as long as copyrights and attributions are preserved[29]. By contrast, images created with NASA's globe software World Wind using Blue Marble, Landsat or USGS layer, each of which is a terrain layer in the public domain. Works created by an agency of the United States government are public domain at the moment of creation. This means that those images can be freely modified, re-distributed and used for commercial purposes. If it is not PD, as I was advised, then it should be deleted. Richard Harvey 23:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
If I go to the same location in GE, I get an image attribute of DigitalGlobe, with a copyright of Europa Technologies. That implies DigitalGlobe was responsible for the initial imaging, and that imaging was licensed to Google by Europa. Long story short, the Wiki admin likely unfortunately gave bad advice. I wish that Google licensing was more open when it comes to non-commercial use, but that probably won't happen until we see a Googlepedia... Fehrgo 17:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, --Polarlys 15:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Johndimaggio.jpg

This is a picture of a TV screen or the like; the photographer does not own this picture.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 06:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

(Reply = So What!) The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.38.125.254 (talk • contribs) at 01:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, derivative work of the TV recording --ALE! ¿…? 09:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Daviddenman.jpg

whoops, found duplicate image Image:David Denman.jpg as I was uploading this one from Flickr --RG2 06:48, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


kept and the other one deleted --ALE! ¿…? 11:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Audie Murphy 92562598.jpg

dublette to Image:Audie Murphy's Tombstone.jpg --Herrick 14:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC) --Herrick 07:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 14:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Aure komm new.png

better version: Image:Tustna Aure komm.svg -- User:KönigAlex 17:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Disagree to deleting it — please see Commons:Transition to SVG. -- Olve 10:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

kept, image is in use --ALE! ¿…? 11:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Elviajeropaisakhmer.jpg

Wikimedia Commons are not a repository for personal images, sorry. 21:14, 6 September 2007 User:Gryffindor

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep, since it's in use on user pages on three different Wikimedia projects. Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 15:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep, yes, it is in used. --El Viajero Paisa 12:57, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

kept --ALE! ¿…? 11:40, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Karte Gemeinden des Kantons Tessin.png

Durch Image:Karte Gemeinden des Kantons Tessin 2007.png ersetzt The previous unsigned deletion request was made on 17:45, 9 September 2007 by User:Tschubby


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 14:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Karte Gemeinden des Kanton Wallis 2007.png

Durch Image:Karte Gemeinden des Kantons Wallis 2007.png ersetzt. The previous unsigned deletion request was made on 9 September 2007 by User:Tschubby


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 14:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:MariaIzquierdo.png

I think, this work is not free software. Dr. Shaggeman 13:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete No source information, license tag is misleading, and since we have no date on this photo, we don't know if it's old enough to be PD. Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 15:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, incorrect license --ALE! ¿…? 11:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Mariany.png

I see no indication that this work is free. Dr. Shaggeman 13:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete And no evidence that the uploader is the copyright holder, or otherwise has permission to upload, as the {{attribution}} tag would suggest. Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 15:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 14:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Metro-310305.jpg

Probably copyright Metro Pieter Kuiper 14:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so, as it's not a copy but an edited photo taken from a distance of the object. /Leos vän 17:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
It is still a derivative work. Unless you can show that Metro released this in the public domain, it is copyright Metro (and the photographer). /Pieter Kuiper 18:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I am the photographer, and the image is just a detail of a larger photo. Can you show a rule that says that it's not allowed to publish photo's of news paper ads, I'll agree to delete the image. /Leos vän 19:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
As I tried to explain, your photograph is a derivative work of a (presumably) copyrighted item. /Pieter Kuiper 22:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Delete it. It´s not the photographer that holds the copyright, it´s the newspaper. It´s the same question as whether a person who sneaks into a movie theater and shoots the entire film there has the copyright on the movie, or the movie company. The answer should be rather obvious.//Hannibal 07:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Clear copyright violation; the only subject and point of the photo is showing the copyrighted material. -- Infrogmation 02:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:850487612 cef35c082c b.jpg

Stupid file name. I notified the uploader to re-upload the file with a meaningful file name. --KAMiKAZOW 21:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC) --KAMiKAZOW 21:36, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


no reason for deletion, please use the {{rename image|new image name}} tag. --ALE! ¿…? 11:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:541993061 5a4d8f1805 o.jpg

Stupid file name. I notified the uploader to re-upload the file with a meaningful file name. --KAMiKAZOW 21:37, 10 September 2007 (UTC) --KAMiKAZOW 21:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - Insufficient reason for deletion. I do suggest that the uploader rename it, however.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 03:51, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted (out of project scope) --ALE! ¿…? 11:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:496223624 92a98b476f o.jpg

Stupid file name. I notified the uploader to re-upload the file with a meaningful file name. --KAMiKAZOW 21:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC) --KAMiKAZOW 21:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


no reason for deletion, please use the {{rename image|new image name}} tag. --ALE! ¿…? 11:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:237781970 f21e2af392 o.jpg

Stupid file name. I notified the uploader to re-upload the file with a meaningful file name. --KAMiKAZOW 21:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC) --KAMiKAZOW 21:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - Insufficient reason for deletion. I do suggest that the uploader rename it, however.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 04:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

no reason for deletion, please use the {{rename image|new image name}} tag. --ALE! ¿…? 11:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:230834033 1715d8c5ef o.jpg

Stupid file name. I notified the uploader to re-upload the file with a meaningful file name. --KAMiKAZOW 21:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC) --KAMiKAZOW 21:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - Re-upload Again under a good name Alx 91 23:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - Copyvio.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 12:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

no reason for deletion, please use the {{rename image|new image name}} tag. --ALE! ¿…? 11:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Crookpicture.png

Possible copyright violation. No source other than a mention that it was taken from an English Wikipedia article -- and there, it was deleted as a possibly unfree image. --RG2 23:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Same image is used on the IMDB, and I don't think they would have gotten it from here. Unclear copyright status. Deadstar (msg) 10:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, --Polarlys 15:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:San Teodoro Filippo Palizzi.JPG

I am the author this file please delete because exist other file Image:Saint Theodore of Amasea.jpg

Thank you! --EuroLuca 11:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by --Digon3 talk Badname, please use the {{badname}} tag for next time.

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[edit] Image:Along the River 7-119-3.jpg

This is a featured picture but also a duplicate of Image:QingMingShangHeTu Big.jpg. I found they are both exactly a copy of this image of National Palace Museum, but used different compression ratios to reproduce. After some pixel-sampling and comparing, I can say the color of Image:QingMingShangHeTu Big.jpg is closer to the image of National Palace Museum than the feathured picture Image:Along the River 7-119-3.jpg. It means Image:QingMingShangHeTu Big.jpg is closer to the original version of National Palace Museum than Image:Along the River 7-119-3.jpg.--百楽兎.png百楽兎 05:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Just some questions: why did you put a "speedy delete (duplicate)" on the one picture you want to keep especially after it was just restored. And why do you put a "speedy delete" on a picture and then ask the admin not to speedily delete it or am I allowed to delete it now after I read your input here? And why do you use the "speedy delete (duplicate)" if the pictures are no duplicates but just show the same motif. Otherwise Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral to this request, the picture seems to have a little bit more vibrant colours but I couldn't really say if i makes a difference. -- Cecil 05:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
No, "speedy delete (duplicate)" on Image:QingMingShangHeTu Big.jpg was not put by me.--百楽兎.png百楽兎 08:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
A question: Where did you get the picture?--百楽兎.png百楽兎 06:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
It's a montage of the tiles from the National Palace Museum, with increased contrast and saturation. ~ trialsanderrors 04:45, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Is this allowed by Commons policy? I am just confused, not despiteful, because the National Palace Museum said any usage of images of the site should get their permission (paid or free) first.--百楽兎.png百楽兎 02:35, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
If an 2D artwork has expired copyright, we accept it on Commons, regardless of the claims of any libraries or museums. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
  • The two files have the same dimensions but the QingMing one adds another 5mb. Is information lost in this version? Can anyone give a concrete example of the difference between these two files? If the QingMing one is better, we can upload that version over this one and delete that file, if that's easier than changing links etc. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
    • The original tiles were smaller than the 7MB of the edited version, so there is no loss of information. The extra 5MB is ballast. ~ trialsanderrors 08:51, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, I say keep the Along the River picture, it was nominated and voted in as a featured picture for a reason. Let it stay. Besides, it violates no copyright, since it is 2D artwork, and therefore is public domain.--PericlesofAthens 06:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I think pfctdayelise's suggestion is good. And I am also glad to hear that Commons accepts those images regardless of the claims of any libraries or museums. It means we will have more pictures to use.--百楽兎.png百楽兎 12:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the difference between those two pictures, it is hard to say which one is better. I just can say they come from the same source, but QingMing one is closer to the source than another. Along the River one is more bright the the source. And a smaller file size means it used higher compression ratio. In JPEG format, it doomed to lose more information from the source.--百楽兎.png百楽兎 12:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Even so, there is a link in the "Along the River" page that links to the alternative image. Even if you disliked this image and wanted the other image to be shown, there is no strong rationale for deleting this one, since the other image is just as easily accessible.--72.196.253.3 03:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
No. The reason of deletion request is "Duplicae", not "I dislike it".--百楽兎.png百楽兎 12:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
They are not duplicates. They are two different versions, one original, one edited. Both were nominated at en.wiki for featured picture status, the edited version was promoted. Both versions are being kept for archival reasons. The community has already reached a consensus on this, so why is this discussion still open? ~ trialsanderrors 08:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Kept for the reason trialsanderrors gave. -- Bryan (talk to me) 14:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Semaine_Barricades_Alger_1960.jpg

voir photo 85.69.215.137 10:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Could you expand on that?Geni 13:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


I'm the author of the original scan and I used photo editing software.

My original photo : http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/9/9/15/f_DSC0017redim_f4cbe90.jpg

There is no copyright infringement. You are free to use my work under the conditions of the Creative Commons license that I have specified. Christophe Marcheux 20:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


That seems very acceptable. Did you every specify which version of the Creative Commons license?Geni 17:11, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I've chosen the CC-BY-SA license... It's clearly specified... Quite frankly, I don't understand the deletion request ! Christophe Marcheux 18:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


Kept: valid licence, no problem. Rama 15:08, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Greta_Garbo_1925_by_Genthe.jpg

Publication date of 1925 and death of photographer en:Arnold Genthe in 1942 do not make this a free use image under US law BrokenSphere 06:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete Presumably copyvio.--Londoneye 11:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Source page states, "No known restrictions on publication." Is there some reason to disbelieve this? Most likely, this was published either with no copyright notice or the copyright was not renewed. howcheng {chat} 16:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - I have usually interpreted "no known restrictions on publication" to mean that the image may be published but may not necessarily be free use depending on the dates of publication or life of the author, but it may be fair use, playing it safe. The LoC's classification can be read both ways re. this. The Rights & Restricitons Info for Genthe photos is here. BrokenSphere 16:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep "PD-US" seems correct. Material from that era became PD-US unless it was specifically renewed. The Library of Congress is the US repository of copyrights, and they say they know of no restrictions. -- Infrogmation 01:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep If we're going to believe anyone about copyright status, we should believe the library of congress. If they think the copyright has expired, that's good enough for me. Calliopejen 05:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - LOC is as close as we get to authoritative. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 23:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Lupo 21:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pearl_Buck.jpg

Uncertain publication date of 1932 and death of photographer en:Arnold Genthe in 1942 do not make this a free use image under US law BrokenSphere 06:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep First, it's this image: "No known restrictions on reproduction", which is the LoC's way of saying it's (highly likely) PD. (They never commit themselves to say "it's PD".) I'm not going to second-guess the LoC on U.S. photos. Second, although their Rights & Restrictions page on the Genthe photos is a bit unclear (how do we know which photos he took for his own use?), I guess this gives the reason why they don't put the "Publication may be restricted" on this image, like they did on the other Genthe photos of her.[33][34][35] Probably this blurry shot (the hi-res TIFF is only slightly better) was never registered for copyright. Lupo 08:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - I have usually interpreted "no known restrictions on publication" to mean that the image may be published but may not necessarily be free use depending on the dates of publication or life of the author, but it may be fair use, playing it safe. The LoC's classification can be read both ways re. this. Thus I would personally passing on uploading an image like this, where another editor would not. BrokenSphere 16:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep LOC is US copyright repository of record; no reason to second guess them over a US copyright (unless some evidence is presented suggesting they are mistaken). -- Infrogmation 02:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - LOC is as close as we get to authoritative. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 23:50, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Lupo 21:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Drawing of the Arbuthnott tartan.png

i have uploaded a higher quality image with a correct/sourced thread count. here Image:Arbuthnott tartan.png. --Celtus 08:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

The image is being replace by the CommonsDelinker at the moment. When it is done I will delete the image. --ALE! ¿…? 11:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Replaced and Deleted. -- Cecil 15:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kapitolovo Rail Station-1 car stop.jpg

bad quality, no real rail station identified on the image. The previous unsigned deletion request was made on 8 September 2007 byUser:AndreyA

Looks like uploader uploaded the picture with a deletion request on it? Deadstar (msg) 10:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

User also nominated the following images with the same reason:

Deadstar (msg) 10:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


Kept. Likely a cut&paste error. Ecemaml (talk to me/habla conmigo) 21:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Canderel Jar.jpg

Suspected derivative work, raised after speedy deletion request tag added by User:Dodo --AshleyVH 17:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. The only thing on the Jar under copyright would be the logo and this is already in wp under [36]. The Canderel typeface is not copyrighted. -- AshleyVH 17:40, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I disagree, legal protection in relation to derivative works applies to artistic works and software. In this case a jar of sweetener is neither. -- AshleyVH 17:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I disagree, does this mean the Commons can not have any photographs of any sort of named product? Similar examples include:
Image:Ghee jar.jpg
Image:Jar of Pesto.jpg
Image:Mayonnaise Jar 550x900.JPG
Note that I have created a version with no logo Image:Canderel Jar no logo.jpg if the logo is the whole of the objection to this image.--AshleyVH 18:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Please take a look to Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Dietcokecherry.jpg and similar deletion requests. The artistic designs printed onto bottles, cans and such are usually copyrighted, so a photo of it is an unauthorized derivative work. I mean, the drawings printed onto a product are considered works of art, and hence copyrighted. --Dodo 10:09, 11 September 2007 (UTC) PS. The given examples have the same problem, except maybe the third one, which has been heavily "cleaned up".

Thanks for the reference which does help explain your viewpoint. I have changed the wp Canderel page to point to Image:Canderel Jar no logo.jpg but I am thinking of only blanking out the logo rather than the Canderel name above the logo taking the advice that "text in a general typeface is not copyrighted" and "Simple geometric shapes are also not protected" as per template:PD-text-logo. I'm assuming this would be a fair interpretation to take care of the "derivative" issue; unless you have another counter-example?.-- AshleyVH 06:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't really feel confortable about this. Why do you only remove the logo? Is that logo copyrighted, but not the rest of the artwork of the bottle? How could we check that? Are we allowed to decide whether that artwork is copyrighteable or not?
I mean: IANAL, and of course I'm not a judge. So I cannot decide which interpretation of the law is the best. I just follow the current policies: so the art of bottles, cans and such are copyrighteable, and usually they are copyrighted, so we need permission for out derivative photo. --Dodo 16:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I get your point. I have now written off to Merisant using the advice given in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Example_requests_for_permission for official permission to use their own website download-able media packs which give product example photos. Hopefully they will reply. AshleyVH 18:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Ecemaml (talk to me/habla conmigo) 21:51, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Images of XYZ

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[edit] Image:Asafa Powell.jpg

I made an error. Copyright violation. the preceding unsigned comment was added by Pacionet (talk • contribs)


kept, image seems to be ok at source (Flickr) --ALE! ¿…? 01:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Osho_International_Meditation_Resort.jpg

I want to see an OTRS release for this advertisement. Lupo 20:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I uploaded the image on behalf of Osho International Foundation, the copyright owner of the work, with their knowledge and authorisation. Such an image was specifically requested by English-Wikipedia admin/bureaucrat Nichalp for inclusion in the English WP Osho page (see his review comments for the page). Will provide OIF e-mail address for verification, if required. Cheers, Jayen466 21:14, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Please forward their e-mail release to permissions-commons AT wikimedia DOT org. Thank you. Lupo 06:59, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Done (e-mail header is "Re: pic/neosannyas.org"). Jayen466 09:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I've received a cc of a confirmation sent by Osho International to permissions-commons, authorising the upload. Jayen466 13:50, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Can we close this? Quadell (talk) 12:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. No such email appears to exist in the OTRS system. The image could be restored if the promised email eventually arrives. MichaelMaggs 17:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Carte_des_prêtres_assermentés_en_France_en_1791.png

This map does not show the France on 1791. Juiced lemon 21:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

See Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Carte des prêtres assermentés en France en 1791.svg, decision should be the same for both. le Korrigan bla 17:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Carte_des_prêtres_assermentés_en_France_en_1791.jpeg

This map doesn't show the france on 1791. Juiced lemon 23:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Scuse me for my bad english... I have doing this map to show the repartition of the "sworn priest" during the French Revolution. Yes, we don't have here the true limits of french in 1791, but the sourcebook whence I have construct this map take the same limits. It is more important to show the total effect. It is more difficult to do a map with the limit in 1791. Books in French ( for exemple) are doing like me. You can do a better map if you want, but I can't !! --Serein 07:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Please go to Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Carte des prêtres assermentés en France en 1791.svg for the main discussion, decision should be the same for this image. le Korrigan bla 17:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
And that one was closed as keep. Quadell (talk) 12:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Carte_des_prêtres_assermentés_en_France_en_1791.svg

This map does not show the France on 1791. Juiced lemon 21:05, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I notice that you have marked Image:Carte des prêtres assermentés en France en 1791.png for deletion as well, but not Image:Carte des prêtres assermentés en France en 1791.jpeg. Is the latter one correct? If so, maybe a better plan would be to update the newer versions? Marmelad 22:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
The 3 maps show the France after the Treaty of Versailles on 1919. It's a pity that some users have spent time to improve the work of an amateur. --Juiced lemon 23:36, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Scuse me for my bad english... I have doing this map to show the repartition of the "sworn priest" during the French Revolution. Yes, we don't have here the true limits of french in 1791, but the sourcebook whence I have construct this map take the same limits. It is more important to show the total effect. It is more difficult to do a map with the limit in 1791. Books in French ( for exemple) are doing like me. You can do a better map if you want, but I can't !! --Serein 07:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I want to add that the archives are classified departement by departement. The historians make their recherche with this limit. And France in revolution had impose the troth in all the territory who are conquered. --Serein 07:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
This map shows France on 1791. In my opinion, the only acceptable solution is to add the data about the “sworn” priests on 1791 to a map of France on 1791. --Juiced lemon 09:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
could you do it ? I can't... sorry... --Serein 10:11, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't draw maps. Image:Carte_des_prêtres_assermentés_en_France_en_1791.svg is not credible, that is why I request the deletion of this image. --Juiced lemon 11:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
The data are only available for the current departments boundaries. Why the gatherer of these data (Michel Vovelle) has done this ? As Serein said, it's because the data sources can be find department by department, and also may be because it gives this map more easy to read for contemporaries French people.
This map is used on 5 pages in 3 projects ; if you cannot replace it, it shouldn't be deleted. But I suggest to add a mention which says that the boundaries of the departments are not the same than in 1791, and are only there as an indication. Sémhur ···
You can keep the data mapping, but you must use a 1791 map of France with 1791 international borders and departments boundaries. Note also the erroneous caption in the current map. --Juiced lemon 12:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
As we said, data with 1791's borders are not available. But, don't focus on the departments boundaries: the subject of this map is not borders, it is the geographical distribution of the "sworn" priests (in 1791, so). With that map, we can see that there is a high percentage in center-north and south-east of priests whose accepted Revolutionary laws and power, and at contrary, this power was rejected in west, east and middle-south. That is the meaning of this map. Sémhur ··· 16:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I agree Sémhur. More studies are based with this type of map. It is more important to see the global effect than concentrate to the borders of the departements. --Serein 16:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
This map is confusing, and gives very poor information. If you cannot use a 1791 map, I prefer the deletion of this map, even if it is not replaced. --Juiced lemon 16:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Very poor information ? I don't understand... all books who talk about religion in French revolution have this map ! I would'nt take a map with copyvio, so I have crate this map. If you prefer no information, it is for me a curious POV... --Serein 17:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Very poor information is your point of view. I have my own. I prefer this map, with an explicative note, to none. (comment by Sémhur)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep, of course : I have added a note regarding the difference between 1791 and 2007 borders. This note can be improved, like the image with better data (which is however hard to get), but deletion is not the answer to this kind of problem. le Korrigan bla 17:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep, see my arguments above. Sémhur ··· 18:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep and ameliorate if it is possible (with a note for exemple) --Serein 18:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC) J'ai cru voir que Juiced Lemon parle français... Peut-on continuer dans cette langue ?
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete If 1791 data come from departmental archives, they remain 1791 data, so they can be displayed as well on a 1791 map. The current map and its wrong caption mislead the reader, so I vote its deletion. --Juiced lemon 20:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep STyx 13:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep As long as it's clearly noted on the image page (and in the image caption) that the map is done for illustrative purposes using the 2007 borders rather then the 1791 borders. It's not as though the map isn't usefull just because it uses 2007 borders. Yes ideally there would be a map with 1791 borders but untill that map (with this data) exists I don't see why this one can't be used. /Lokal_Profil 11:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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Si vous ne savez pas comment représenter vos données sur une carte de 1791, je peux vous expliquer comment faire (à condition de disposer d'une carte de 1791). --Juiced lemon 20:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Il me semble que tu n'as pas trop saisi le problème (il faut dire que je parle très mal anglais ;-) La carte donne le pourcentage de prêtres ayant prêté le serment de fidélité à la Constitution civile du Clergé, serment qui a été institué en 1791. Cependant, au fur et à mesure de ses guerres révolutionnaires, le "gouvernement" français de l'époque a exigé des prêtres des territoires qu'il soumettait la soumission à ce même serment. Il y a donc des données pour tous les départements français, comme il y en a aussi en Italie, en Belgique etc... De plus, en France les archives sont regroupées par département, même si les limites ne sont plus les mêmes qu'en 1791. Les chercheurs (et j'en suis une) se plient à cette contrainte sans trop de problèmes, car les limites ont changé mais la répartition des archives s'est assez bien faite. L'important dans cette carte n'est pas le découpage département par département mais les tendances générales. Insérer les données actuelles sur une carte de 1791 serait une erreur historique et reprendre toutes les données avec les anciens départements exigerait des années de travail. Les informations données sur cette carte sont présentes dans la plupart des ouvrages traitant de la Révolution française et servent également à l'analyse politique sur la longue durée des tendances de vote des français, puisque curieusement les 2 correspondent. C'est un grand classique de l'historiographie de la Révolution française. De plus, il me semble préférable d'avoir une carte, même un peu imparfaite, que pas de carte du tout. Cordialement, --Serein 21:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Je comprends en lisant ta réponse que les données ne datent pas de 1791, et que cette carte est donc encore plus fausse que je ne le pensais. Une petite référence utile pour ceux qui découvrent le problème: [37].
Mon avis est qu'une telle carte ne vaut rien sans explication sur la manière dont les données ont été recueillies, traitées, puis représentées. Parmi les informations essentielles, il y a la date de référence pour la compilation des données, et la définition de la base 100%, c'est-à-dire le nombre de prêtres de référence (quelles religions, quand). Car je pense que le nombre de prêtres a pu fortement évoluer, notamment au gré d'élections de nouveaux prêtres ou des déportations ou éliminations de prêtres réfractaires.
Dans tous les cas les données peuvent toujours être représentées sur un fond de carte correspondant à l'année de référence pour la compilation des données. --Juiced lemon 21:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Je me suis peut-être mal exprimée : les données en tant que telle datent de l'époque, leur recueil est contemporain (fait par les historiens, pas par moi). On peut supprimer les départements non français en 1791 (la Savoie par exemple), ça ne changerait rien au problème. La base 100 est la totalité des prêtres présents quand on leur a demandé de prêter le serment. Il n'y a pas de question de religion, il ne s'agit que de prêtres catholiques. Les déportations ou éliminations de prêtres ont été faites après ce serment donc ça ne change rien. Il n'y a pas d'élection de prêtres, mais des ordinations. Pour être honnête, je crois que tu te poses plus de questions que ne s'en posent les historiens qui ont fait ces cartes. Une fois encore, je pense que l'important est l'effet global, pas le rendu minutieux commune par commune (car on pourrait aller jusque-là !). Le recueil de ces informations et leur traitement me sont inconnus a priori. Je pense que les historiens qui ont travaillé là-dessus ont fouillé dans les archives départementales. En tous cas je leur fait confiance, j'ai pris mes chiffres dans des ouvrages incontestables. --Serein 21:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Je pense qu'en tout cas nous sommes d'accord sur le fait qu'il faut davantage d'informations dans la légende, sur le mode d'obtention de ces données et leur utilisation actuelle. Si Serein (ou quelqu'un d'autre) donne des précisions en français, je les traduirais en anglais. le Korrigan bla 21:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Cette carte est précisément le genre de choses qui fait dire que les informations de Wikipedia ne sont pas fiables, et que les articles sont rédigés par des personnes incompétentes. Si un historien réputé peut se permettre quelques libertés sur le choix de ses modes de représentation sans que cela nuise à sa crédibilité, Wikipedia ne le peut pas. Cela d'autant plus que l'évolution des techniques graphiques n'autorise plus la moindre excuse à des erreurs qui crèvent les yeux à toute personne s'intéressant quelque peu à l'histoire de France.
En particulier, le Comtat Venaissin n'a été réuni à la France que le 14 septembre 1791, et je doute fort que des prêtres de ce territoire sous la dépendance du page aient pu prêter serment avant cette date. --Juiced lemon 11:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
J'ai retrouvé comment a été construite cette carte. Les recherches ont été faites par, dans son ouvrage La révolution, l'Église et la France. Le serment de 1791 (1985). Je l'ai trouvée dans, La Révolution française, (2003). En vertu du principe refusant le travail inédit sur WP, je me vois mal ne pas utiliser les travaux publiés déjà existants ! On peut si tu veux représenter la proportion de jureurs par des aires de couleur sur une carte de 1791 et préciser d'où viennent les données. Mais à mon sens la représentation par aires est moins précise que par départements. Encore une fois, tes remarques me semblent un peu exagérées et je pense qu'une bonne explication dans la légende vaut mieux qu'un travail qui sacrifie la précision géographique. La carte de M. Vovelle reprend les départements actuels, Savoie, Comtat Venaissin et Alsace compris. S'il est précisé que cette carte est tirée d'un ouvrage de M. Vovelle reprenant les conclusions de T. Tackett, où est le problème ? Les personnes s'intéressant au sujet connaissent forcément ces auteurs et ne crieront donc pas au scandale ! --Serein 13:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Je ne vois pas en quoi l'utilisation d'une carte départementale correspondant à la date de référence pour la compilation des données sacrifierait quoi que ce soit à la précision géographique. La carte utilisée ne change pas les données. Il s'agit juste de nettoyer les zones qui se trouvent en dehors du territoire de l'époque, et dont la représentation constitue une aberration. --Juiced lemon 13:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept Gnangarra 10:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Harry_Potter_y_la_Orden_del_Fénix.jpg

copyright violation Doo-dle-doo 22:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


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copyright violationn Doo-dle-doo 22:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


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copyright violation, also, user is uploading multiple copy-vios, is a block possible? Doo-dle-doo 22:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


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copyright violation. user uploads lots of harry potter copy-vios... block? Doo-dle-doo 22:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


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Copyright is wrong (three-image composite is (C) National Geographic, shark image is (C) Charles Maxwell, Helicopter Shark itself is (C) unattributed mail hoax). Thumperward 09:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete as an obvious copyvio. --Butseriouslyfolks 05:14, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 10:21, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by --Digon3 talk 00:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Copyvio

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[edit] Image:Boerderij Schipborg.JPG

(The owner of the building has threatened to sue me if I do not remove the image. So I comply.) --ErikJanHeart 16:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg Question: On what basis would he sue you, are buildings copyrightprotected in Dutch law?? Finn Rindahl 19:58, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Yes. As in many other copyright laws, actually. Lupo 11:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
      Thanks for clarification. No objection to delete at uploaders request from me. Finn Rindahl 12:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment It appears that this request also applies to Image:Binnenplaats boerderij Schipborg.JPG here at the Commons. (See the history of nl:Schipborg.) Strictly speaking, I would think the owner of that building has no leg to stand on for a copyright suit. The farm complex was built in 1914, and I don't think farm houses (even if a true manor) qualify as "artistic". Even if it did, the architect, en:Hendrik Petrus Berlage, died in 1934. (See this Dutch article for some info—that could be incorporated into the article on nl:Schipborg, BTW.) But Erik probably knows what the owner has threatend to sue for... Lupo 21:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Privacy rights? / Fred J 10:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep -- if there is no legal reason for deletion, why should we delete. Not every person understand copyright laws. / Fred J 14:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Despite the general consensus to keep the image, I have deleted it. I have had private communication with the photographer about this issue. While their are no valid legal reasons to delete this image, the owner of the building has some quite severe privacy concerns. I therefore think that it is not ethical for Wikimedia Commons to keep the image. If you want more information, please ask me privately. -- Bryan (talk to me) 08:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Brian. I'd appreciate it if this photo was deleted. ErikJanHeart 08:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Bishop-Bossilkov.jpg

Licensing claimed is {{PD-old}} for a photograph taken by someone unknown c.1927. Ian Spackman 00:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete unless uploader adds additional sourcing information clarifying that the current lic is correct since current lic may or may not apply depending on who holds the original copyright. FloNight♥♥♥ 13:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete possible copyright violation. Calibas 01:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 07:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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Permission was received from a fan site. The fan site doesn't state where the image came from. It's high quality tells me that it's a promotional image and not free use. --Mshake3 04:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Email verification was pasted onto the talk page of the image. The fansite uses photographs from all over, there is no source specified here. Image quality makes me wonder about free use too. Deadstar (msg) 08:10, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 23:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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Direct rip from site: http://getbutch.com/flotation_device_tshirt 128.239.169.104 04:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 06:57, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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copyrighted http://www.gaynboston.com/images/swim/swim34/swim34f.html Lemon-lime 04:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, --Polarlys 15:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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COM:SCOPE. Dodo 06:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, --Polarlys 15:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:TS Gabrielle 9 sep 2007 terra 250m.jpg

Effectively a duplicate of Image:Gabrielle 09 sept 2007 1625Z.jpg. 11 September 2007, User:Keith Edkins

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Then please use the {{duplicate}} tag. However, in this case the two images are not identical because one is a crop of the other. So Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. --ALE! ¿…? 06:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept, no reason to delete. --Avatar 23:32, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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aquasoft logo.png Jobinok 10:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 06:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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image is broken, replaced by image:Redbullczech.jpeg Phormis 18:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


kept (the image works fine) --ALE! ¿…? 07:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Pilipinas 25 Pisos 1981 back.jpg

new better upload with better colors and correct name at Philippines 25 Piso 1981 back.jpg both pics are from myself --NobbiP 20:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC) any problems to delete this picture? NobbiP 17:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


kept (A better version is normaly no reason for deletion. Maybe someone prefers this version.) --ALE! ¿…? 07:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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violates copyright of www.abbywinters.com - picture not taken by poster --80.129.97.215 21:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by Polarlys: http://www.abbywinters.com

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  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep One uses colors, the other one does not. --ALE! ¿…? 07:02, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept, both are fine. --Avatar 23:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


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It is a duplicate of :Image:US9.45inchTrenchMortarBreechDiagram.png Rcbutcher 03:56, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep It seems the images are not duplicates. As per the previous discussion, I think both should be kept. Nishkid64 (talk) 00:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Kept. abf /talk to me/ 14:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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test --F3rn4nd0 15:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Please use {{speedy}} next time. --EugeneZelenko 14:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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test --F3rn4nd0 14:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Please use {{speedy}} next time. --EugeneZelenko 14:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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I'm author. 10 September 2007 User:Sevela.p

Deletion fix. Empty category. Deadstar (msg) 14:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Cat seems to have been deleted. Request can be closed. Deadstar (msg) 15:18, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by user:Cat? --Digon3 talk

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[edit] Image:PokerHandRankings.pdf

The PDF says "no commercial use" at the very bottom of the page CBM 01:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I created this image and published it to Wikipedia with a Creative Commons license. I was under the impression that I could restrict it's use commercial, while still making it available for private, educational, or not-for-profit use.

I see that my restrictions aren't allowed. I'll happily replace it with a PDF and SVG under a more open license. Thanks for pointing this out. Grundlebug 12 Sept. 2007

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Looks ok to me now. --ALE! ¿…? 12:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Why does it need to be in a Pdf? You should have made it in a wiki page. Platonides 12:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept, license is ok now. --Avatar 23:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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copyright violation -- this is a crop from Merryn Redux at AbbyWinters.com. 12 September 2007 User:195.64.92.25

Deletion fix. Image is actually tagged as copyvio making this request redundant. Deadstar (msg) 13:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Polarlys: copyright violation, see Commons:Licensing

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This image was originally uploaded to en as en:Image:Kenan stadium.jpg. A lower-resolution version was copied to fr and that French version was uploaded here. The en version was deleted (en undelete, en log) as not having source information. The image description page contained only {{GFDL}} and no assertion of authorship, but it was uploaded in 2005 so you can't really conclude anything from that. But the uploader, en:User:Jcmurphy, was banned from en for copyright violations and faking OTRS permissions. (en block log). So without even a statement of authorship, I suggest we err on the side of caution and remove this image as having inadequate sourcing information. --BigDT 03:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Was a speedy delete on Wikipedia-en for lack of sourcing. Since we have no accurate sourcing info, unfortunately need to delete. FloNight♥♥♥ 13:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
    • I should point out that en did not have separate GFDL and GFDL-self templates in wide use until mid-2005 so I wouldn't be overly inclined to delete something that was obviously a user-authored image where the only problem was that it used an old template ... but in this case, this is an image uploaded by a user who was banned for copyright violations and faking OTRS submissions, so there's no reason to believe that he authored the image as opposed to just pulling it off of a message board or webshots or something. --BigDT 20:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted, no source given. --Avatar 23:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:2005 Nebraska Cornhuskers football team at 2005 Alamo Bowl.jpg

This image is almost certainly a news media photo. The flickr image page has now been deleted (in other words, flickr or the uploader probably removed it as a copyvio). This flickr user has 1,877 flickr uploads. All of them use a Canon PowerShot SD400. All of them are 1600x1200 or 1280x960. This photo is smaller, was taken from somewhere that only credentialed media would have been, has no camera information, etc. It bears no resemblance to this flickr user's other uploads, looks a heckuva lot like a news media photo, and has been removed from flickr. It is almost certainly a copyvio. --BigDT 04:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per BigDT's thinking unless we can verify the sourcing is correct and lic is correct. FloNight♥♥♥ 11:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Any difference between this photo and the other photos by this user is not consequential. Plenty of people own multiple cameras, or may borrow one if theirs is broken or not available. Plenty of people also have a camera and a cell phone with camera also.
I seriously doubt this is a photo taken by professional media. It is low quality both in terms of image size and image quality. Professional media shoot better photos than this.
As far as the location of the photo, there are many plausible explanations. Lots of other people are on the field besides the media. Trainers, for instance, or security guards, or even a fan that may have rushed out onto the field. Here is an article talking about a coach that even took an on-field photo with his cell phone camera. That could easily be the explanation here.
In short, we have nothing solid to justify deleting this photo. Johntex 23:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
We have to have a good faith expectation that the guy actually took the photo. There is none here. It doesn't at all match his other photos. Looking at his other photos right around that day [38], his cell phone takes 640x480 pictures, not 390x312 ones. He obviously is not a coach or a security guard - he has an office job and lives in Bullhead City, Arizona - a 17 hour drive from the bowl game in San Antonio, Texas. The bowl game was on the night of December 28. On December 29, he shot three pictures of his morning commute ([39] + two others) They are timestamped at 10:00 pm, but if you look at the timestamps of some of his other photos, they look a little over 12 hours off and the photo looks like more of a sunrise than a sunset. In other words, after leaving a game in San Antonio, Texas around midnight, he drove to work in Bullhead City, Arizona the next morning. That's some amazing dedication to the job - he flew home over night so that he could go into the office the next day. It's especially amazing since Laughlin/Bullhead International Airport has no direct flights to San Antonio, so he would have either had to drive four hours to Phoenix or have a layover. --BigDT 06:26, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete In addition to BigDT's comments, the photo appears to have been removed at Flickr... Lupo 09:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 23:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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I created this image yesterday as a straight copy of Image:BSicon WBRÜCKE.svg, but using a filename without the umlaut over the U. Recent changes at Wikipedia had modified the way that SVG files were rendered, and any of these icons containing a Ü would not display. That problem has now been resolved, and this file may now be deleted, as it was only created as an experiment to test a hypothesis, and has now served its purpose.

PeterJewell 08:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per uploader's request and explanation. FloNight♥♥♥ 11:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 23:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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Copyrigth: http://spanish.imdb.com/gallery/hh/1408663/HH/1408663/iid_1309518.jpg.html?hint=group Aadrover 10:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Appears to be promotional picture so does not have free lic for Commons purposes. Delete unless uploader can clarify lic and make clear that they can give permission for a free lic. FloNight♥♥♥ 10:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 23:54, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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Copyright of Bernardo Doral: http://spanish.imdb.com/gallery/hh/1408663/HH/1408663/iid_1309521.jpg.html?hint=group Aadrover 10:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Appears to be promotional picture so does not have free lic for Commons purposes. Delete unless uploader can clarify lic and make clear that they can give permission for a free lic. FloNight♥♥♥ 10:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 23:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Foab.jpg

I posted this - not the right image Kaplansa 13:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. --Avatar 23:57, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:New-se-wiki-logo.png

exists already --6 May 2006 User:Servien

This has been sitting in Incomplete deletion requests for a while. I can't check if it's in use anywhere, perhaps someone else can tell? Deadstar (msg) 13:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

the only image I could find was an image on the se-Wikipedia: se:Image:Wiki.png. So the image was kept here. --ALE! ¿…? 08:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Lahuan milenario.jpg

Error. A wrong image was uploaded -- 8 September 2007 User:PatagoniaArgentina

Deletion fix Deadstar (msg) 15:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 23:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ponto-final.jpg

Derivative work. Also marked as non-commercial EugeneZelenko 15:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Permission given only for non-commercial use so not compatible with Commons lic requirement. Other issues likely as well. FloNight♥♥♥ 17:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 00:01, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Aly Cicero.djvu

bad file. wanna start over. .:. Sarazyn 17:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC) --.:. Sarazyn 18:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --DaB. 16:06, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

done --ALE! ¿…? 15:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Buckethead_Les_Paul.jpg

No free license ← Körnerbrötchen - @ 20:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete non-free promotional. Deadstar (msg) 15:19, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 00:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:KALMAR.jpg

Is it own work or not? The watermark indicate it's from an online auction. --Liftarn 13:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted --ALE! ¿…? 13:35, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:37 360 3D.jpg

Own work? Looks like a promo shot. --Liftarn 13:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, looks like a promo, resolution is as it would be if someone saved it off some random webpage, and it shows up here and here and other places where mainly promo images are used. Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 18:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Agree that image appears to be promo photo as does this one the the user uploaded. Without more information clarifying the source and the uploaders understanding of lic, we need to delete as the image is likely not free per Commons policy. FloNight♥♥♥ 14:18, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 15:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Mini logo hibrido 1.jpg

programa de musica alterlatina, creado por Andres Moncada. The previous unsigned comment was made on 12 September 2007 by User:Andres Moncada

Deletion fix. Deadstar (msg) 13:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 13:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Anynobody3.png

not used --30 August 2007 User:Anynobody

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Personal image, if not used on userpages, then out of scope. Deadstar (msg) 14:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 13:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Wappen Weissenstadt.png

Image is part of the commons as Image:Wappen Weißenstadt.png --User:Vodeg 00:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

This image is larger than the one mentioned. Deadstar (msg) 14:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
But quality of Image:Wappen Weißenstadt.png is better. --Vodeg 20:45, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 13:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Lavriki Rail Station.jpg

bad quality, no real rail station on the image --9 September 2007 User:AndreyA

deletion fix Deadstar (msg) 15:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

kept (image is in use) --ALE! ¿…? 13:45, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kisstomiburumbator.JPG

at request of -- 1 August 2007 User:Alensha

Deletion fix Deadstar (msg) 15:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

kept, possible vandal / false request --ALE! ¿…? 13:47, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:SE Hortolândia2.png

Esta bandeira não serve para uso em nenhum artigo. --9 September 2007 User:Trojan

Deletion fix Deadstar (msg) 15:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kiss_011.JPG

Filmed persons consent? EugeneZelenko 15:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

They are some porn scarlets. The pictures were taken at the party were they were teasing the audience. Pic were allowed to take. --سندباد 02:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Did they allow to distribute it under free license? Please forward confirmation to permissions-commons at wikimedia dot org. --EugeneZelenko 14:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

kept: we discuss copyright here not {{personality rights}}! I have tagged the image accordingly. Consent of persons shown is not needed here. --ALE! ¿…? 13:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:P8190050.JPG

COM:SCOPE. Dodo 15:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Image:Bellezze_Paesane.JPG

COM:SCOPE. Dodo 16:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom. Deadstar (msg) 09:58, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:百楽兎.png

Seems rather useless. --勇壯 13:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Looks like someone's using the image in their signature (which is evil). Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 12:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Yes, this image is used by zh:User:Πrate as a signature. --Littlebtc 13:28, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

kept --ALE! ¿…? 13:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Nature_morte_à_la_chaise_cannée.jpg

PD-US claim requires an indication that it actually was published in the US prior to 1923. As it is not a US work it will still be covered by copyright in France, where the artist lived. William Avery 11:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright, so for it to be PD-US it would have to have been made in US. Makes sense. I'll be more careful on checking the "Copy to Wikipedia Commons" candidates on enwiki. Wizardman 18:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Lupo 11:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Yo_Picasso.jpg

PD-US claim requires an indication that it actually was published in the US prior to 1923. As it is not a US work it will still be covered by copyright in the EU. William Avery 12:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright, so for it to be PD-US it would have to have been made in US. Makes sense, I'll be more careful on checking the "Copy to Wikipedia Commons" candidates on enwiki. Wizardman 18:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Furthermore Picasso's estate has filed NIEs for basically all his works. The NIE for "Yo" is here as "Autoportrait yo" and "Yo Picasso-self portrait". Unless you can prove publication before 1909, this wouldn't be PD in the U.S. at all. (That the painting was created in 1901 doesn't matter; you'd need a proven publication date. "Publication" meaning "distribution of copies to the general public". Exhibition, sale, or auction don't count, but a photo printed in an exhibition catalog or in a newspaper or periodical does.) The image should thus remain deleted even at the en-WP. Lupo 07:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Lupo 11:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Karte Bistrica ob Sotli si.png

The user will again upload the image under the correct name --10 September 2007 User:Janezdrilc

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Deletion fix. I can't see the renamed image. Deadstar (msg) 13:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
This Image and Image:Karte Podcetrtek si.png have to have exchanged names, so the correct name of:
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Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment So please upload the images under the correct name and tag the old versions with {{bad name}} --ALE! ¿…? 13:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Seems like he uploaded the correct versions over the incorrect versions. -- Cecil 16:15, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Karte Podcetrtek si.png

The user will again upload the image under the correct name --10 September 2007 User:Janezdrilc

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Deletion fix. I can't see the renamed file. Deadstar (msg) 13:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
This Image and Image:Karte Bistrica ob Sotli si.png have to have exchanged names, so the correct name of:
--Janezdrilc 20:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment So please upload the images under the correct name and tag the old versions with {{bad name}}. --ALE! ¿…? 15:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. Seems like he uploaded the correct versions over the incorrect versions. -- Cecil 16:15, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Proyecto león.svg

estaba errado el mapa, ya fue reemplazado por uno correcto. 8 September 2007 User:Jesús Rincón

Deletion fix Deadstar (msg) 13:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Which is the correct file? Why don't you just upload the correct version over the old one? --ALE! ¿…? 08:01, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, found it at Image:Proyecto leon de caracas.svg --Cecil 00:48, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Citalopram numbered.png

Changed speedy into regular deletion request, because I don't think there is a reason to delete the picture. I would recommend to cancel the deletion request. – For more information and arguments see the undeletion discussion on User_talk:Majorly#Image:Citalopram_numbered.png and (for german speaking users) de:Benutzer_Diskussion:Markus_Prokott#Citalopram. – The original reason for speedy deletion stated by User:Hoffmeier can be found in the former version of the page. --Markus Prokott 16:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Have uploaded a better version of the picture. Updated the description. —Markus Prokott 17:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete After discussion here: de:Wikipedia:Redaktion Chemie#Nummerierung in Strukturformeln. There is no need for locants in skeletal formula. --Hoffmeier 23:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep As a matter of fact, the discussion de:Wikipedia:Redaktion Chemie#Nummerierung in Strukturformeln concludes, that there is no need for locants in skeletal formulae only in so-called Chemoboxes. This doesn't mean that there may be no other uses. Furthermore, the discussion explicitely includes the use of locants in skeletal formulae for purposes of explaining chemical nomenclature. And, actually, there are many images of skeletal formulae with many locants in all Wikipediae. —Markus Prokott 03:14, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Opinions and even decisions on :de like the one (correct iw [40]) mentioned by User:Hoffmeier are not at all binding here on Commons. Also, nobody is obliged to use this image in articles about citalopram, you are free to use the formula without numbering. Independant from the numbering, Image:Citalopram numbered.png is interesting (and should be kept therefore) because the conformation (?) of the amino- and the fluorophenyl-substituent here differ from the one in Image:Citalopram structure.svg. Besides, the file has just 38 kB, one reason less to delete is. -- Túrelio 15:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
conformation? It is the same structure! --Hoffmeier 22:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Kept. MichaelMaggs 17:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Montsonís.JPG

Mistake in the name Lohen11 12:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. Correctly named at Image:Foradada.JPG. Please use {{badname}} for such requests. Lupo 13:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Greenland 1699b.jpg

This is a fake picture. No way it is Greenland. 24.240.182.64 11:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Licensing is ok, and of course it doesn't show Greenland but some small island just off the coast of Greenland. It's badly named, that's all. Lupo 15:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Keep. Image is ok, but the name is rather bad. Valentinian (talk) 23:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept --Digon3 talk Resolved, consider using the {{rename}} template

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[edit] Image:The Beach.jpg

Excuse me, because the wiew exist as 'Image:SperlongaSpiaggiaLevante.jpg'. Thank you --10 September 2007 User:Aldo Ardetti

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep the image mentioned is not the same. Deadstar (msg) 09:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Not the same photo. Carl Lindberg 07:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept. --Avatar 00:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Stasi 2.0.JPG

Dieses Bild stellt eine massive Beleidigung in Verbing mit Verunglimpfung einer lebenden Person dar. Die Assoziierung des Herrn Schäuble mit Mördern, Folterern und generell Schwerstverbrechern halte ich für unangebracht für eine Enzyklopädie. Ich bitte daher diese Geschmacklosigkeit zu entsorgen. Weissbier 09:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Weissbier says it was libelling a living person (German politician Wolfgang Schäuble). This deletion request also covers the following derivate works of this image:
Lupo 11:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

It's a logo used in a current civil rights campaign and can be seen printed on thousands of shirts and posters in the public in Germany. So if Mr. Schäuble himself or the Ministry of the Interior don't object to the usage of this logo, why should we delete it? --91.65.124.74 16:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that this association of the german secretary of the interior with the former GDR secret police Stasi is covered by freedom of art and therefore irrelevant. But this picture seems to be a derivative work though since there is no feasible reason for assuming the uploader being the creator of the artwork itself. Finally, i think it has to be deleted since the CC licensing is not credible. (It might be true for the photographic reproduction but this isn't enough). --Wiggum 21:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Why should it not be credible? The license is cc-by-sa - Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike - and that is perfectly credible for Wikipedia/Wikimedia. The license itself is included in the PNG image at the bottom. The uploader is not the creator, true, but has a permission from the creator, which can also be read in general form in clear text (German though) on the source web page, which is also referred to. Please explain what is wrong or what is missing here. --W-sky 22:45, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh i didn't see the png picture. The licence is fine, Keep.--Wiggum 09:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose This picture is a legal form of political protest sign against the very straight form of some ideas the described german secretary of the interior stands for. The license is cc-by-sa and absolutely correct. --Herrick 08:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Keep, the license is OK. --Dezidor 09:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

  • delete die Lizenz der Quelle auf Flickr ist cc-by-nc und das ist inkompatibel. --Marcela 10:11, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Ich seh da nirgendwo flickr. Oder hast du dich mit dem Link beim Tagging Anfang des Monats vertan?--Wiggum 11:26, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
      • Ich hab da im Chat nen Link bekommen, ich glaube von Smial - und dasw war eindeutig nc Ob es Flickr war - bin ich nicht mehr sicher. Beim Taggen hab ich mich vertan, richtig. --Marcela 14:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
    • The images are not from flickr. The original source is denoted. What might have lead to your confusion Marcela, is that the license was recently changed by the author. It was cc-by-nc before. --W-sky 12:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. This a a campaign against the article that uses this image. The article should be deletet and has now been restored. Its the second attempt to do delete this image. The license is cc 3.0 (because the older license was the reaseon for the first Deletion Request). The picture is part of an civil right campaign in germany and covered by freedom of speech. Best Regards Stefan.
  • The licence of the picture is ok, and the picture is covered by the civil rights. So we should keep it. --87.123.115.204 21:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Es ist ein Armutszeugnis diese Verunglimpfung eines Behinderten hier zu verbreiten. Man muß mit dem Mann nicht einer Meinung sein, aber man kann es wenigstens mit Würde tun. Weissbier 12:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep. Wolfgang Schäuble muss hier vor keiner angeblichen "Beleidigung" geschützt werden, das Bild ist einfach nur ein Dokument. 84.159.38.181 18:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Wikimedia Commons has also images that are offensive to a person or a group of people, for educational purposes. Offensive content is no reason for deletion. See Category:Antisemitism if you want any examples of wikimedia commons images that are offensive. --Church of emacs 14:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep the picture is widely used in general public demonstrations and is known to a broad mass of people, even outside germany. Wikipedia/Wikimedia even has a liability to provide information to the public, it can't close its eyes to actual political happening. Furthermore, there is no license violation as mentioned. --js 15:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep: These pictures are covered by the Freedom of expression (Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights) and by the Freedom of the press (esp. for Wikipedia). --Liberal Freemason (talk) 16:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. Everything Weissbier has written on this page is utter nonsense. "Verunglimpfung eines Behinderten" (Denigration of a handicapped person)? Come on. Mr. Schäuble is indeed handicapped (he needs a wheelchair since he was attacked several years ago), but this picture does in no way mention this fact, allude to it or show it. It does allude to Schäuble's political positions, which are questionable. --Rosenzweig 19:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Concerning the license: The picture was not taken from flickr or any other platform, but was shot by myself. So the license information (also given by myself) should be correct :-) ---Nicor 13:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

  • keep the user Weissbier was also using this argument to delete the article "stasi 2.0", but did fail in the last instance. Elvis 11:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • keep It's a correct description of the political problem. Also like Rosenzweig. -- Sozi 14:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Most certainly not. I guess the only thing that should be deleted here is Weissbier's user account. I don't know how to handle his changes now. Anyway, the discussion seems to lead to the clear conclusion that none of the images must be deleted. The photograph was uploaded and/or licensed by the photographer, the others have suitable licenses too and do not contradict any lawful issues. Request for EOD... --W-sky 15:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
      • deleting him may be a bit harsh, but on de, he does nothing more than starting deletion requests and is "well loved" for it. 194.76.29.2 15:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • KEEP the image is not free because of freedom of panorama. It was placed under CC-BY-SA 3.0 after being under CC-BY-NC-SA for some time [41]. It's also not inappropriate for Wikipedia according to my views, maybe cynical but it shouldn't be deleted because it doesn't fit in the actual political landscape of germany. --Yamavu 15:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • keep Ich wüsste keinen Grund warum man dieses Bild löschen sollte, meiner Meinung nach fällt es unter die "Redefreiheit".
  • delete So einen Schwachsinn zu einem Artikel zu machen schaffen nur WIKIANDER! 84.153.72.118 18:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • delete
  1. An offense is not defused by the fact that the insulted one does not undertake anything against it. Politicians don't want poor publicity.
  2. Last week a student was arrested, who has that sticker on his car. A newspaper summarizes: "Damit könnte die Anzeige [...] zu einem Fall werden, der Tausende von Webseitenbetreibern zu potentiellen Straftätern werden lässt."
  3. Not only Schäuble becomes insulted, but also the Stasi victims. Alauda 21:31, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
1. I don't deny the fact that the picture is an offense. I just say that commons does not censor pictures which are offensive. If there is a rule that states, that no offensive pictures shall be uploaded, show it to me. But then, we'll have to delete all images in Category:Antisemitism, too.
2. Wikimedia Commons is in the USA, so German law doesn't apply there. If it is illegal in Germany, only the domain wikipedia.de (which is under control of the German Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.) can be blocked. However I don't think it is illegal to show the image for educational purposes, not even in Germany. See Image:Flag of Germany 1933.svg, it is not ok to use the flag to advocate 3. Reich, but it is ok to show it "for the purposes of education and information."
3. See 1. --Church of emacs 13:35, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
  • keep I think the Picture is no violation againt the Person Ich finde die persönlichkeitsrechte werden hier NICHt verletzt also behalten --84.136.3.85 21:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • keep das ist eine zulässige Karikatur. In jedem Karnevalsumzug finden sich schlimmere "Beleidigungen". Außerdem erinnert vieles, was Schäuble fordert, tatsächlich an die Stasi.
  • keep Personen die zeitgeschichtlich so relevant sind dürfen karikiert werden. Damit müssen die betroffenen Personen leben; Kohl war auch eine Birne. Politiker sind immer im Fadenkreuz der Karikaturisten/Satiriker/politischen Gegner. Ganz abgesehen vom Lemma „Stasi 2.0“ verstößt das Bild gegen keine Urheberrechte - höchstens gegen den guten Geschmack, welcher wiederum subjektiv ist. --Poupée de chaussette 22:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • keep Dieses Bild ist allein schon wegen der hitzigen Diskussion in und um die Wikipedia ein wichtiges Zeitdokument. So wie es als Symbol für die Angst vor dem Überwachungsstaat steht, so ist es Sinnbild der hiesigen Kultur des Miteinander, des Lösung-Findens, der Wikipediademokratie. Abgesehen davon hat es in Magazinen wie der Titanic weit verletzendere Karrikaturen von Politikern und anderen Personen des öffentlichen Lebens gegeben (z.B. gegen den Papst) die sämtlich - sofern es überhaupt zu einem Prozess kam - nicht verboten wurden.

Kept, no persuasive reason. --Avatar 00:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:East_Germany_5_mark_1969_Robert_Koch.jpg

Image title is wrong (1969 instead of 1968). Image is uploaded with correct description here: Image:East Germany 5 mark 1968 Robert Koch.jpg Alfons Åberg 10:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. --Avatar 00:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:06335029.jpg

The name of page is mistaken. BezPRUzyn 13:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

The name is Wrong and have now uploaded under correct name. (New image is Image:Het'man_Sahaydachnyy.jpg.)--BezPRUzyn 10:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 00:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:SEP_wheeled.jpg

License says: "editorial and personal use." which is not enough for commons. Deadstar (msg) 15:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. --Avatar 00:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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License says "editorial and personal use" which is not free enough for commons Deadstar (msg) 15:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. --Avatar 00:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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License says "editorial and personal use" which is not free enough for commons Deadstar (msg) 15:45, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. --Avatar 00:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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License says "editorial and personal use" which is not free enough for commons Deadstar (msg) 15:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. --Avatar 00:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kunsthaus_Tacheles_wall.png

German FOP states that no derivatives of the image can be made without getting permission from the owner of the copyrights to what the photo is made of 84.108.245.222 17:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep this has no merit. Provide a solid reference if you can find one, otherwise there is certainly no way we just overthrow the long accepted FOP on commons. Such a precedence could lead to a completely pointless mass deletion of images. --Dschwen 22:14, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Zwei Sachen kurz auf Deutsch: es handelt sich um aufgedrängte Kunst und das Werk ist nicht erkennbar signiert. Damit entfällt eine Verpflichtung sich beim Künstler zu melden ohnehin schonmal. (imposed and unsigned art, thus no obligation to contact the creator, thus bogus deletion request) --Dschwen 22:26, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Tagged now with {{PD-FOP-DE}} in addition to the CC-BY-2.0. Lupo 22:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep And please read all sections of the law:
It is possible by § 59 of the Copyright Law Act to take pictures of publicly visible works of art as defined in § 2 and publish them, even commercially. Still, as defined in § 62, especially § 62(1), the right to modify these works of art and to produce derivative works of them where German law applies, requires the permission of the original copyright holder. § 62(3) states, that changes of the scale of the depicted unaltered work of art, are permissable in the bounds made necessary by the medium of reproduction. (i.e. the picture taken can be scaled, cropped, enhanced etc., as the medium of reproduction makes necessary. The medium of reproduction can be a printed page, a computer screen etc.).
Since the original work of art has not been altered, §62(3) applies. --Wuselig 01:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep This deletion request is quite a nonsense:
    At first this is not a pure artwork image: It is an image of a house with an artwork and its surroundings which gives you a lot of additional freedom even in nations where there is no freedom of panorama (such as France). Additionally the points named by Dschwen give you even more freedom totally independent from Freedom of Panorama (I can imagine, that a photo of an illegal graffiti in France would be free enough as well).
    Furthermore Freedom of panorama doesn't mean you are not allowed to modify your photo. You're not allowed to destroy the work and the artists reputation. It is approximately the same as modifying a free picture of a famous person in a harmfull way. You are not allowed to do so cause of personality rights. So these are mere moral rights beyond copyright. Copyright doesn't exist in free space.
    So in summary I'd even say that we even don't need the Freedom of panorama rule in this case. This photo is as free as a photo can be. Arnomane 17:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep per Arnomane. This photo of Czech politician is also under the free license but Marek Benda could defend himself in court against someone who would use it for defamative photomontage. Personality rights doesn´t mean that photo is not under free license. --Dezidor 22:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Your vote is well meant, but your case has nothing to do with "freedom of panorama", but with personality rights. The question in your case is: Is it a public figure or not. If yes, you can publish the picture. And yes, you are then not allowed to alter the size of his nose. So your example can only serve as an analogy. But the general misunderstanding in freedom of panorama is with regards to what shall not be modified. It is the work of art (the original or in the image) that shall not be modified. The image itself can be modified, ie.cropped, enlarged, whatever, but not distorted, because that would alter the image of the work of art. And Arnomane is wrong. A weaker kind of copyright does exist in free spaces. A kind of personality right of the work of art, which forbids us to distort it, but still allows us to publish it. And let us just assume we were not talking about imposed art, because then, as Dschwen noted we could have cut short the discussion already.--Wuselig 23:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
It was an analogy. --Dezidor 00:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I only see a black rectangle and no photo. --ALE! ¿…? 14:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept --Avatar 00:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Missionary_Sex_Position2.png

dumbshit 87.177.245.165 19:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted. --Avatar 00:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:030822-028.JPG

Wrong name; have now uploaded under correct name --Londoneye 21:45, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete {{duplicate}} - New image is Image:Southend pier from end.jpg Deadstar (msg) 08:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. --Avatar 00:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Terminal del Aeropuerto.jpg

Esta equivocado --7 September 2007 User:Piratapirata8

Deletion fix. User has a duplicate uploaded here: Image:Aeropuertodeburgos05dscxx2.jpg - could have been {{duplicate}}. Deadstar (msg) 09:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

this one kept and the other deleted because the other file did not have a license --ALE! ¿…? 16:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Moneda_antigua.JPG

Extremely low quality image. The coin is impossible to even identify (probably Roman). We have plenty of Roman coins already. Alfons Åberg 10:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Despite horrendously shitty quality, in use on Spanish Wikipedia. WilyD 17:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete usually I say that quality is no reason for deletion when an image is in use. But this one is that bad that it shoudl be deleted because it is of no encyclopedic value. --ALE! ¿…? 16:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

  • I'll just provide some background info. The image is used in an article about a fictional character to illustrate the currency used by that character. The image was uploaded by the same user who wrote the article in question. Perhaps the image is intentionally out of focus to leave something for the imagination. Alfons Åberg 18:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, worst picture ever seen on commons, hopelessly out of focus --Polarlys 09:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Wapen_Driesum.png

Uploader removed all contents including license. Need comments. Jusjih 13:06, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment He very likely blanked the page because he uploaded Image:Wapen Driesum.svg. The .png is not used, however this is not a reason for deletion. Deadstar (msg) 15:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted (the file never had a license) --ALE! ¿…? 16:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:NLOS-C.jpg

"All images in this Electronic Press Kit have been approved for public release, distribution unlimited, TACOM 12 Sep 2006, case 06-197." is not a "free license". The page where this image originates does not have a copyright statement clearly marked. Deadstar (msg) 15:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Appears that original source does not give a free lic and agree that being "approved for public release, distribution unlimited" as stated is not compatible with Commons licensing policy. FloNight♥♥♥ 17:13, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, --Polarlys 09:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:HardingFuneral.jpg

August 1923 is not before January 1, 1923. http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/cph.3b06876 says "Rights status not evaluated". Davepape 15:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


Kept. Lupo 15:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Nancy Reagan, Polish President July 17, 2007.jpg

Poor quality. 13 September 2007 User:Happyme22

  • Not in use. WilyD 17:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I took this picture myself and uploaded it to commons thinking it could be used somewhere, but I now see that it is of awful quality. Delete, please. Happyme22 23:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Unused is not a reason for deletion. It's not the best quality to be sure, but it's not useless either. Do we have a better picture of the same scene? If not, since it's licensed correctly and potentially useful, Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Carl Lindberg 07:07, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Happyme22, thank you for contributing the image. Can be useful for research purposes as historical images often are, if not publication. FloNight♥♥♥ 14:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

kept --ALE! ¿…? 11:49, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Wrestling BDSM

The page nominated for deletion is irrelevant to wrestling. It has no photos at all. The previous unsigned comment was made on 10 September 2007 by User:128.135.96.15

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Could have been {{speedydelete}} as it is an empty page. Deadstar (msg) 09:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment the page had many pictures in older revisions, worth checking into... 84.108.245.222 17:14, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Hm. How did I miss that one? I retract my delete vote. Page probably just needs reinstatement. Deadstar (msg) 15:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

kept --ALE! ¿…? 11:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Turkey 1500 LIRA 1981 back.jpg

Reasons for deletion request : I've created a better qual pic of this money at Turkey 1500 Lira 1981 back.jpg - both are from myself --NobbiP 18:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


kept (no reason for deletion) --ALE! ¿…? 12:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:President_Reagan_giving_his_first_Inaugural_Address_from_the_U.S._Capitol_1981.jpg

This picture has become obselete and replaced by Image:Reagan delivers inaugural address 1981.jpg, a photo of better quality Happyme22 23:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Replaced by a higher quality but not duplicate version. --Digon3 talk 15:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 12:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Commedia_dell'arte_-_Gelosi.JPG

borders - new loading done PRA 16:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Where can I find your new version of the image ? --Christian NurtschTM 14:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Here : Image:Commedia dell'arte - troupe Gelosi.JPG . PRA 08:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, alright --Christian NurtschTM 10:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete universal replacement via CommonsDelinker is running --ALE! ¿…? 11:57, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete, per above.--Londoneye 13:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Majorly: Universally replaced by Image:Commedia_dell'arte_-_troupe_Gelosi.JPG. Reason was "will be deleted as a near duplicate"

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[edit] Image:Shaikh Abdul Aziz Bin Abdullah Bin Baaz.jpg

The image summary refers to a release that I cannot find on the apparent source website (although I cannot read arabic). It is not clear whether the source website is the actual owner of the copyright in the image. Also, after the statement that all rights are released, there are several limitations that conflict with the GFDL. --Butseriouslyfolks 21:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete "Copyright: Haramain Recordings © 2007 All rights released. Foreign persons can duplicate, copy or reproduce any material content from this website without consent of the author, for notificational, informational or promotional purposes." Clearly not compatible with GFDL.--Londoneye 13:32, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Per above discussion. --Siebrand 10:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Himmler ziereis kaltenbrunner 1941.jpg

This image has been tagged for missing source information. This is not true, the required information is covered by the description page. Since there might be the question of the credibility of USHMM's PD licensing of the picture i would like to discuss the issue here.--Wiggum 21:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

The USHMM page is here (it does help to put the links in the image page). They do say public domain, courtesy of Archiv der KZ-Gedenkstaette Mauthausen. The latter's page on it is here, which I think says it was an SS photo. I'm not sure how the public domain claim was arrived at to be honest. They may be relying on U.S.-only law, but I'm not sure about that either. Presumably the Archiv der KZ-Gedenkstaette Mauthausen has no problem with the claim, but they are likely not the copyright owners. Carl Lindberg 06:15, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - I have so far seen no good reason for this to be PD-anything. The photo was only taken 67 years ago, it cannot possibly be PD-Old. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 04:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete most WW II images are not free yet. --ALE! ¿…? 12:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - I feel the image is strongly needed to convey the people. - 72.229.48.178 05:06, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment If it is an SS photo, the copyright presumably belongs to the German government. Is this archive an arm of the German government? If so, they are probably the de facto copyright owners.--Londoneye 13:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

IMHO the copyright belongs to the author of the photo. --ALE! ¿…? 14:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure in those times anything done by the SS (or other elements of the government of the time) would have then been owned by the NSDAP, and thus now owned by the German government (a German court ruled that way for Triumph of the Will). This archive is in Austria though (it is a museum for the Mauthausen concentration camp). The photo was taken at the camp (in Austria). The archive and memorial is an arm of the Austrian government, it does appear (I didn't notice that before). I have no idea if SS photos taken in Austria would be considered property of the German or Austrian governments though. If the latter, this one may be all right. Carl Lindberg 16:02, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - This image is either PD or fair use for historic value like anything related to the SS.--Arugia 02:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
There is no proof for PD and 'fair use' is not accepted on commons. -- Cecil 05:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleted. Per above discussion. --Siebrand 10:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Vivien_Leigh_as_Scarlett_OHara_in_Gone_With_the_Wind_trailer.jpg

If it was published once without a copyright notice (ie. the trailer) and subsequently with a copyright notice (ie. in the film itself, unless this footage was excluded from the film, which I doubt) - does that mean it is copyrighted or that it isn't? Yonatan talk 21:58, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

  • I believe that means it isn't copyrighted since it was published first. The trailer is in the public domain, and the related scenes from the film are also since they have the same copyright as when they were first published in the trailer. All other scenes from the film should be copyrighted since they had not been published before and were published with a copyright notice. ShadowHalo 04:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • This seems to be right.--Londoneye 13:36, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Sorry for the delay in replying - I have been absent. I think User:ShadowHalo is right, and it is certainly the interpretation by which I have uploaded film trailer images. this link explains it better than I could possibly, but basically the individual frames of a film trailer were released without a copyright notice and the fact that the same frames appear in a later copyrighted work, does not mean that the copyright is extended to them. Where possible (and in this case) I keep the text on the frame so as to clearly distinguish that it is from the trailer. Rossrs 07:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Kept, from a trailer published without copyright notice before 1977. --rimshottalk 16:59, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Tiger_girl.jpg

unfree, bien sur __ ABF __ ▼☺☻▲ 14:51, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteScreenshot of game Deadstar (msg) 15:23, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Bryan: Copyright violation, see Commons:Licensing

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[edit] Image:Rihanna 01.jpg

The same image was uploaded as Image:Rihanna.jpg and was deleted as owned by Getty Images, not the uploader on Flickr. --ShadowHalo 04:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I have no way of knowing this image is from Getty Images but I do believe you so you may delete it. Also perhaps you should consider asking Flickr to correct the license so that someone else doesn't upload it again. --Kudret abi 05:11, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Copyright Getty Images 2006. Taken by a staff photographer so it is definitely theirs. Carl Lindberg 05:26, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete as obvious copyright vio. FloNight♥♥♥ 22:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by --Digon3 talk Copyvio

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[edit] Image:Gerrypony.gif

Out of scope as it is a personal picture. As the description says "it's all about me". Deadstar (msg) 13:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted by --Digon3 talk Out of scope

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[edit] Image:Heiligenkreuz07.jpg

Copyright violation 217.227.19.209 05:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete It comes from Erwin Nadolny, Der deutsche Osten und Europa, German school book from the 1960s. Lupo 07:42, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep No it did not. I made the photo in the church of the Stift Heiligenkreuz, where it was on display on a wall. JoJan 05:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
    • That doesn't change anything. Read the text at the bottom of the image itself. They put a page from a schoolbook on that wall. Lupo 20:04, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete if it actually comes from a school book. There's not FOP in Churches, I'm afraid. --Fb78 09:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, --Polarlys 09:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Petitpalaisandchurchill.jpg

Main subject is the statue of Churchill by fr:Jean Cardot (b. 1930), made in 1996-1998. France has no freedom of panorama. --Jastrow (Λέγετε) 08:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep - The statue is not the main subject. --Dezidor 09:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - The status is the main subject. -- Duesentrieb 15:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete - I also think the statue is the main subject. Deadstar (msg) 15:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, statue obviously main subject. --Polarlys 09:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Nosjoernaalavt.jpg

I suspect this image came from: http://www.annettevantrigt.com/ Site is copyrighted. The description says that this image is an official press photograph for Annette van Trigt (Dutch newsreader), this does not mean it is released under GFDL. --Deadstar (msg) 08:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, --Polarlys 09:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Kennedy greeting Peace Corps volunteers.gif

Superceded by .jpg version (Image:Kennedy greeting Peace Corps volunteers, 1961.jpg) --BrianSmithson 09:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, --Polarlys 09:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Carcassonne_(German).jpg

The image shows copyrighted works Phrood 12:34, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, --Polarlys 09:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Der_fette_mo_beim_Saufen.JPG

not needed any more 84.155.166.108 15:47, 14 September 2007 (UTC) Sorry, I forgot to login. This is my deletion request... --Der fette mo

It appears this was just used on a User page. If it's no longer needed there, it probably can't be used for anything else, so Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. Carl Lindberg 03:16, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted, --Polarlys 09:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Operation_wolf.jpg

The game w:Operation Wolf is copyright w:Taito Corporation William Avery 21:13, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, --Polarlys 09:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Griffbrett mit ganzen Noten.jpg

This image was made my me, I uploaded it as .svg in a better version and there are no links to that file! --Red Rooster 21:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted, --Polarlys 09:32, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Logo Ju-Jutsu.gif

Image belongs to www.djjv.de and not to Benutzer:Konny1979. The website of origin claims copyright! --77.128.191.38 09:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC) The orgin-website claims: All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner. The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2004 by Deutscher Ju-Jutsu Verband e.V. / Enno Häberlein

13:29, 20 September 2007 Maire (Talk | contribs) deleted "Image:Logo Ju-Jutsu.gif" ‎ (copyvio, logo)

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[edit] Image:Billy_Graham_bw_photo,_April_11,_1966.jpg

Probably unfree because [42] says "No known restrictions on publication," but that must be interpreted within the context of [43] which says "The Prints & Photographs Division attempts to provide known information about the rights to images ... and rights to many images ... have not been individually evaluated." It is very unlikely that the U.S. News & World Report Magazine Photograph Collection would relinquish rights. BenB4 04:14, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Speedy keep. See U.S. News & World Report Magazine Collection Rights and Restrictions Information: "Per the deed of gift, the U.S. News & World Report, Inc., dedicated to the public all rights it held for the photographs in this collection upon its donation to the Library. The majority of the photographs in this collection were done for hire by U.S. News & World Report staff photographers, primarily Warren K. Leffler, Thomas J. O'Halloran, Marion S. Trikosko, John Bledsoe, and Chick Harrity identified on photographic captions by their initials --WKL, TOH, MST, JTB, and CWH. There are no known restrictions on their photographs." This particular photo was by Leffler, so it is in the public domain per the gift to the Library. --Tom (talk - email) 12:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The U.S. News & World Report Magazine did indeed relinquish their rights. This was taken by one of their employees, so they originally owned the rights to it. There are a number of photos from this collection on Commons (maybe we should have an explicit license tag which links to the rights information page). The LoC would have added the "No known restrictions on publication" tag to only those photos known to be taken by U.S. News & World Report employees. The existing license tag is correct. Carl Lindberg 03:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

kept Finn Rindahl 11:56, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Large_white_shark.jpg

it is a copyrighted image by Scot ANderson and not a NOAA product 205.156.36.31 16:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted Copyvio Finn Rindahl 12:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Haifa.jpg

dupicated (Image:Haifa_sea.jpg) RonAlmog 16:45, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


Deleted, unused duplicate. Please use {{Duplicate}} or {{Badname}} for such cases. Finn Rindahl 12:15, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Herb_Rugby.jpg

This file (meaning the logo of Rugby team) is very similar to the logo of other rugby team,( which I didn't know when I was uploading the file) To avoid any troubles I would like this file to be deleted. I emphasize that I was the one who uploaded it. We'll come up with better idea for our logo and than we will upload it.Thanks Skibabiba 17:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


deleted pr uploaders request. Finn Rindahl 12:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:OOo-2.1-Writer-Formatting_toolbar-LTR.jpg

Not in use. Image:OpenOffice.org2.2 TextDiretion RTL.png is better. Mintz l 10:45, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I don't think that the alternative is sufficiently similar to replace it.--Londoneye 13:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep These are not the same image, not even close. The newer one may be better for use on a Wikipedia article, but on commons we keep both images. We generally only delete exact duplicates, or lower-resolution versions of the same image. Carl Lindberg 16:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept --Digon3 talk Not a exact duplicate

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[edit] Image:OOo-2.1-Writer-Formatting_toolbar-RTL.jpg

Not in use. This one is a better version. Mintz l 10:46, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I don't think that the alternative is sufficiently similar to replace it.--Londoneye 13:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep These are not the same image, not even close. The newer one may be better for use on a Wikipedia article, but on commons we keep both images. We generally only delete exact duplicates, or lower-resolution versions of the same image. Carl Lindberg 16:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Kept --Digon3 talk Not a exact duplicate

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[edit] Image:Billie_Holiday_at_club_1949-04.jpg

No clear consent for use of this picture under the license given "Mention data of a photographer of this image and the photographed date and time" is hard to do when it is not clearly marked on the photograph itself. I did a little research and although this particular picture isn't on the http://www.hermanleonard.com page, he does not seem the kind of photographer to give good shots away. However, I might be mistaken and I hope someone else can shed light on this. Deadstar (msg) 12:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete No evidence of a free lic. I looked at both sites and did see any indication that this image is available for our use. Needs to be deleted now. In the unlikely circumstance that clear permission from the copyright holder is given for a license that is compatible with Commons policy, then we can re-add it. FloNight♥♥♥ 21:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Speedy. Herman Leonard is still alive and active. I know he has sometimes donated individual prints of his famous photos for charitable purposes, but I agree we should presume this is fully copyrighted unless we have specific information showing the contrary. -- Infrogmation 00:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
    • As I could find no evidence on the source supporting the supposed free licence, I have Speedy deleted this apparent copyright violation. -- Infrogmation 00:44, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted by Infrogmation: cv

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[edit] Image:MatsLeven.jpg

this has the wrong license on it + license is not filled out properly. From the page mentioned (http://www.photopit.com) it is not clear that the images are released under any type of license. I suspect copyvio. It also has a watermark. Deadstar (msg) 14:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I had it from en:Image:MatsLeven.jpg, but since it had an original source I didn't mentioned the intermediate step at en.WP. I will ask Caroline if she knows about it and if she could write a email if it's ok with her, but