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[edit] Image:Carlos-Ghosn.jpg
(copy of commercial image http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/people.shtml ) --Tatoute 00:20, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete : The terms of the site clearly forbid commercial or personal use without the prior permission from the copyright owner. Image is unsuitable for Wikimedia Commons. Nick 02:40, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Merchandising-x-files.jpg
I don't think the Flickr uploader is the copyright owner. Giggy\Talk 06:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete This one's a little complicated, but the image is a copyright violation in almost every conceivable set of circumstances. If the trading cards are official authorised memorabilia, then they will be protected under copyright, and any photographs are considered derivative works (there's no incidental inclusion here, the subject of the image is copyright material). I've never come across those particular trading cards before, so there's the possibility the trading cards are unofficial, but in that case, since they're using screenshots or other promotional artwork which belongs to whoever owns the rights to the X-Files these days, the cards are derivative works and that has the knock-on effect of making this image a derivative work. There's no option but to delete the image I'm afraid. Nick 14:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Please note that there is a whole Category:Merchandising of The X-Files with currently 9 images. Lupo 08:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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- They're now listed for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Merchandisig-mulder.jpg. It seems someone has nominated some but not all of the images for speedy deletion about a week ago, so they're mentioned in the deletion discussion, along with the category which will also require deletion. Nick 10:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted RedCoat 11:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Jessika Gedin.JPG
this is a psychopicture --80.216.80.66 10:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- The fact that a picture is not aestethicly pleasing (from the viewpoint of the person on the picture) is not a reason for it to be deleted... MiCkE 10:17, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- If she wants it gone, then I'll, as the photographer who took it, not stand in her way. As I see it, the bad picture of Jessika got us a good picture of her directly from the horse's mouth (so to speak), so we won't be without Jessika's image at all.//Hannibal 20:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- In that case, I do not object. MiCkE 21:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- If she wants it gone, then I'll, as the photographer who took it, not stand in her way. As I see it, the bad picture of Jessika got us a good picture of her directly from the horse's mouth (so to speak), so we won't be without Jessika's image at all.//Hannibal 20:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 13:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete She's donated another picture to the public domain, we have no reason to keep a non-flattering one (although I don't think it's that bad). Caesar 19:27, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted as a matter of courtesy, as per Caesar. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Kelch-Heilig-Kreuz.jpg
The picture doesn't have a free license (see received OTRS mail).
Veröffentlichung der Fotos ohne Veränderung
means that it's not allowed to make any changes on the picture. This does not go under a GFDL-license. --my name 18:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, I am afraid that I have to accept this delition request. I did what I could to convince the owner of the picture that he shouldn't be worried about modifikations but a catholic priest has a special oppinion about religious items. So the article has to live without this foto. I accept your deletion request. --BBKurt 09:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Bursa_013.JPG
What does this image show? Out-of-focus cherries? Bad image quality, I cannot see any encyclopaedic usage for it. Seems to be unused, even in the project where it originated. Rosenzweig 18:29, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Simonxag 00:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:MTRC System Map.png
False licence. The original author(zh:user:Sdee) has objected this. See zh:user_talk:Billytanghh, zh:user:Sdee said,"本人製作的港鐵路線圖被你上載上公共領域之前無得到本人的同意下進行,本人表示強烈的反對." (In English, "You do not have my permission before uploading the MTR map which I made. I myself am strong discontented with your action.") Also, zh:user:Sdee says that there is some problem with the map and needs to be updated. --CDIP No.150 repair meter 18:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete, as per above. Also the style of the map is not consistent with MTR. --Minghong 18:09, 2 December 2007 (UTC)- Oh, the author has just misunderstood something. I have found that the map has been already in PD at zh.wikipedia since earlier time. However, this del request can't be cancelled until the map is corrected. --CDIP No.150 repair meter 19:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- i hope it can be deleted ASAP so that i can upload with the new and correct version to here. Thank you for all.--202.86.155.199 17:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- I think you can log in or create a new account in order to update the picture. --CDIP No.150 repair meter 19:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep, as updating does not require deletion. - Keithorz 08:58, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept. The license seems in order. The corrected map can be uploaded over this; no reason to delete. Rocket000 19:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:CarteSiutationAbidjan.svg
Wrong name, can't rename it + I'll upload a better one immediately. Sorry. Christophe Dioux 21:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete (nominally) - Image has now been tagged as a duplicate image and should be deleted shortly. Nick 00:46, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Rossi_Pietro.jpg
no license for 11 days Jacopo 21:44, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
CommentJust to clarify, the image was uploaded under a claim of having been licensed under the GFDL licence, but there is no evidence of permission having been received and logged on the OTRS system to this effect. Is that why you've nominated the image for deletion ? Nick 00:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted by S1 (In Category:Unknown as of 20 November 2007, missing or bad information on author and/or license and/or source). Jastrow (Λέγετε) 11:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:PS3.jpg
Obviously made by sony, obviously not free license - Ssolbergj 15:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- That image was not made by sony how do you know yours is a copyright image to- - The luigi kart assasions 12:40' 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- I made the vector image myself. This one has however an information box that clearly says that Sony is the author, and that it is from http://www.vincentabry.com/images/techno/2007/janv/. (a page that clearly contains only commercial photos) This image will be deleted from commons, unless a guy working at Sony shows us an official Sony website that says that this image specifically has a free lisence - which would be unusual for Sony. - Ssolbergj 00:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Who took the photo? Rocket000 20:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted as highly probable copyvio (author quoted as Sony, mention "permission: none"). Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Nukupu'u.JPG
looks like a derivative Rettetast 13:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:25, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Akohekohe_2.JPG
looks like a derivative. Problem uploader on en. Rettetast 13:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:25, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Leekster hoofddiep.png
Uploader unsure where he got the satellite image from, he suspects it might have been google. If that is the case, unfortunately we can't keep the image. --Deadstar (msg) 14:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Verwijderd -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:26, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Laurak bat.jpg
Derivative work --Ecemaml (talk to me/habla conmigo) 22:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment I can't read Basque. Wouldn't the banner be PD-ineligible? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 08:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep PD-ineligible. Rocket000 19:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Kept: not eligible for copyright. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Konstantin_Pats1939.jpg
Note - Image:Johan_Laidoner1939.jpg is nominated for deletion for similar reasons. Nick
Not an official symbol of the state. Raul6 09:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Disagree with the Deletion request. the image is a government publication, published by an institute of the Estonian government in 1939 and represents the President of the Republic of Estonia
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Comment Pictures created/published before 12 December 1992 in Estonia are not protected by copyright according to the younger than 70 years rule! Please see a commentary at juridica.ee by Heiki Pisuke, Professor of Institute of Law, concerning the retroactivity of authors and related rights: The 1992 text of the Copyright Act did not provide a direct answer to the question of whether works created before the entry into force of the Act (12 December 1992) are also protected under copyright. The 1999 amendments make it clear: (§88) that such works are protected under copyright within the whole term of copyright which, as a rule, is the life of the author plus 50 years after his or her death. -related rights are protected during the entire term of protection (as a rule, for fifty years).-- Termer 11:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Note FYI: I've notified the nominator [3] that the procedure for deletion is not completed since the image has not being added onto the log. --Termer 07:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted: As per Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Johan Laidoner1939.jpg: Estonia has a 70 years copyright term since it joined the EU. -- Bryan (talk to me) 12:45, 23 January 2008 (UTC) I did not realize that it was already 2008. -- Bryan (talk to me) 12:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Lumsk Troll.jpg
This has an emailed permission but I'm not sure the copyright holder has understood the full meaning of GFDL. I find it hard to imagine he'd give permission to freely use the cover of a record that was commercially released just a few years back. --Lumijaguaari (моє обговорення) 10:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete This is not a valid permission. In such cases the author gives permission to upload the image and not to license under the GFDL. This permission would not have been accepted at OTRS. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep How do you determine whether a person has understood the meaning of the license or not? This is just calling the licensee stupid, which I'm sure isn't the case. --Pred 22:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep I would say the conditions has been presented to him and he has accepted them. If he's not in the mood for reading the conditions for use, he is only cheating himself. --|EPO| da: 18:10, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Lots_of_heads.jpg
Authenticity of this image is unclear. See talk. Legionarius 14:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment: This image helps students such as i learn about the brutality of the Rape of Nanking. it contributes to our learning
Kept. MichaelMaggs 07:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:DSC02361.JPG
It looks like the only purpose of this image is to advertize the uploader himself, it it not used anywhere in Wikipedia --Denniss 00:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC) Denniss 00:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. --Moonian 13:04, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Herby talk thyme 13:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Commons is not monster.com -- Avi 00:36, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. -- Infrogmation 06:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:DSC00353.JPG
It looks like the only purpose of this image is to advertize the uploader himself, it it not used anywhere in Wikipedia. --Denniss 00:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC) Denniss 00:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. --Moonian 13:04, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete for being advertising. If the uploader would want to use this image on his personal page, it could be kept (without the spiel in the description). Deadstar (msg) 16:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per Deadstar --Herby talk thyme 13:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Commons is not monster.com -- Avi 00:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per all above.--F3rn4nd0 22:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted, out of project scope, unused on any user page. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 15:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Adriana_Sage_2007.jpg
I don't think the uploader is the copyright holder - it's on an "adult entertainment shows" photostream, so it could be a screenshot or something. Opinions? Giggy\Talk 01:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep I took a look at the image on the source page and it's properly tagged as being Creative Commons licensed. Additionally, the image in question has EXIF details present at the Flickr site (seeable here, which indicates that it was indeed taken by a camera and is NOT a screenshot. Finally, a look at the profile of the photographer says this: "Just a budding photographer." Tabercil 02:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep The image is on an "Adultcon 2007" photostream, Adultcon being one of those USA convention things where members of the public meet adult film stars, can take their photographs, get autographs and such. The EXIF data ties in very well with the quality of the photograph and the aspect ratio and original image size is all wrong for a screenshot. I've written some help for spotting Flickr copyvios here Nick 14:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Michael_Chang_(1).jpg
bit-for-bit copy of Image:Michael Chang.jpg Spyder Monkey 01:46, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- NOTE: You may use template {{duplicate}} in such cases. --217.186.138.26 01:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted as a duplicate. Nishkid64 (talk) 02:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Maan.jpg
The uploader first claimed self—the preceding unsigned comment was added by Jusjih (talk • contribs) 03:05 (UTC), 2 December 2007
- Well, the uploader has once replaced the original image with the one bearing the text "Deleted", as well as the whole desc page with a copyvio tag. Maybe she/he just wish to speedily delete the file? --Moonian 13:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment See User talk:Jellobie at the bottom, and also Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Jellobie. Lupo 08:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted as a matter of courtesy (low usefulness, unused), please refer to links above for the specifics. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 15:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Cercle_trigo_deg_rad.svg
330° and 315 ° are wrong ! I uploaded a new (but png) version Nicostella 11:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedily deleted per uploader request ~ Riana ⁂ 16:24, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Central_Park_Reservoir.jpg
Another image with the same title is in en.wp BlastOButter42 12:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment rename it --Simonxag 12:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted: 3 December 2007 User:Siebrand deleted "Image:Central Park Reservoir.jpg" (Dupe of Image:Central Park Reservoir-Jussi.jpg)
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[edit] Image:GAM Genova-DSCF6709.JPG
This bust looks from the 20/30s. We need to know the authorship of this bust to know whether its author died more than 70 years ago or not --GeorgHH 13:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know the name of the author of this work. So, delete the picture. --「Twice29.0 · contributi · talk」 08:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per poster's reply --User:G.dallorto 16:20, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:NGC 6745.jpg
Identical images (Image:NGC_6745HSTFull.jpg) Eleferen 12:19, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment The files have different sources and license tags. --GeorgHH 13:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep and then Image:NGC 6745HSTFull.jpg, put it for deletion.--F3rn4nd0 22:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept. Deleted Image:NGC_6745HSTFull.jpg instead (better quality). Rocket000 19:27, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Rotterdam_begraafplaats_Crooswijk_baarhuisje.jpg
error in filename; this is not "het baarhuisje" Wikifrits 16:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment What is it then? Is there a duplicate file with a correct name? Deadstar (msg) 16:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Today I managed to identify the actual "baarhuisje" and I uploaded the correct file. I also identified the existing picture as "het drenkelingenhuisje", so I created a file with that picture. The deletion request can now be cancelled. Wikifrits 17:38, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept, request withdrawn. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Ingrid_Betancourt_HotelVilleParis.jpg
Derivative work because it shows an unfree photograph; FOP does not apply 82.228.89.180 17:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Panorama freedom may apply. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 13:06, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- In France?? Lupo 08:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete There is no FoP in France. The monument is PD-old, but the picture hung on it is definitely not, no matter who hung it. guillom 12:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Even if there were FoP in France, it wouldn't apply as the image is not attached to the building permanently. --rimshottalk 18:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Camaron_y_tomatito.JPG
screenshot 86.92.243.235 17:21, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted: 4 December 2007 User:Infrogmation deleted "Image:Camaron y tomatito.JPG" (cv)
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[edit] Image:RUTA-DEL-CAMARON.jpg
from http://www.guiadecadiz.com/images/Image/RUTA-DEL-CAMARON.jpg 86.92.243.235 17:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted -- Infrogmation 05:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:San_Fernando2.jpg
stolen from http://www.pa-sanfernando.org/5San_Fernando2.jpg Michiel1972 17:24, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deleted, copyviol, false source/license. -- Infrogmation 05:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:3381-9314.jpg
the user only uploads stolen material Michiel1972 17:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Hp.JPG
given users previous uploads not own work Michiel1972 17:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deleted by S1 with following reason: "in Category:Unknown as of 4 December 2007; still incomplete information on source/license/author/perm". Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:19, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Moajemelibadia.jpeg
Copyrighted book cover. No indication that the uploader is the copyright holder of that book and has released it under a free license. Meno25 17:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deleted by ChristianBier. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Tete du défilé du 1er mai.jpg
dubious claim of self-creation ~ Riana ⁂ 18:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC) (Note: procedural nomination from me, 66.212.73.116 did not complete the deletion request)
Deleted as per nom. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:PC020278.jpg
Uploaded with bad filename; nothing links to it Makaristos 19:04, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Kalanchoe sp.jpg
poor quality, unrecognizable species, small file, out of focus WayneRay 18:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)WayneRay
This image is uploaded for being identified in the German Wikipedia's "Bestimmungsseite", where unidentified species can be identified by users. If it has done it's work there, I have nothing against deleting the image.--Heinz3 17:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete: Image quality is too poor. ––Gepardenforellenfischer 10:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete: Very poor quality. --MichaelMaggs 07:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted, discussion on de: is now closed and archived. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:CALPOLYSEAL.PNG
This is a copyrighted logo. See this page. No indication that the uploader has the authority to release it under the GFDL. Esrever 19:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- The image qualifies for Fair Use in the United States but should not be on Wikimedia Commons.--Curtis Clark 01:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted-- Infrogmation 06:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Caritas_Francis_Hsu_logo.jpg
No indication on the school's website that this logo is free for use under CC. Esrever 20:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. -- Infrogmation 06:57, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted, as per nom. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Chernigivska ViewFromSocMistechko.jpg
and Image:Chernigivska OldView.jpg, Image:Chernigivska ViewFromBratyslavskaSt.jpg.
Non-free --Ahonc 20:20, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
From http://www.metropoliten.kiev.ua: Copyright © Вадим Дзыгун 2000-2007. Использование материалов сайта возможно только с согласия автора. (Usage of materials are possible only with author's permission). GFDL is not mentioned. --EugeneZelenko 16:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Tyske-orden.jpg
There is the same image here in SVG version:Image:Coat of arms of the Teutonic Order.svg, no links to this page Karelj 20:21, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept Superseded is not a reason for deletion. Deadstar (msg) 16:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Blackbearwarning.JPG
There is little context to this image and it is unused. -N 21:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Handwritten sign that without context is out of scope. Deadstar (msg) 12:25, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. MichaelMaggs 22:53, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Drunter_und_Druber_1.jpg
Copvio of design on box and game board MichaelMaggs 22:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 12:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep. a simple foto of a simple game. not good and not bad. whats wrong with it ? are you iconoclasts ? --Peng 17:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 18:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Obvious copyvio of a copyrighted cover as well as game board. --rimshottalk 18:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [4] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete as a derivative work of a copyrighted game design. -- AlNo (discuter/talk/hablar/falar) 11:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete My understanding is that everything on Commons has to be either PD or released under a free licence. Having read Commons:Derivative works, I don't see how someone who takes a photo of a boardgame would have the right to release it under a free licence, to be copied, adapted, and sold. Cowardly Lion 13:33, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Monopoly_Junior.jpg
Copyvio of game board design MichaelMaggs 22:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:24, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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Info: Sorry, but the drawings are by no means incidental. Your last sentence is just plain wrong. --MichaelMaggs 07:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- No, the sentence is simply arguable... ;o) the purpose of that specific photograph is to represent the board, not the two drawings (one being upside down, tw). Michelet-密是力 19:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Two problems with your argument:
- The board layout is intellectual property that belongs to Hasbro/Parker Brothers. So if the point of the photo is to show the represent the board, then it's copyvio.
- The point of the photo appears to show a Monopoly Jr. board, as opposed to the original Monopoly board. In that case, the design in the center becomes an integral part of what the photographer is trying to represent. 98.204.112.111 05:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- You are making a confusion between artistic property (Berne convention) and industrial property of designs (Paris convention). There is no "copyvio" for layouts and designs as long as no artistic creativity is demonstrated. Ubi lex distinguit, distinguere debemus.Michelet-密是力 06:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- That is... something to think about. Rocket000 01:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, it's just completely incorrect. The Paris convention is irrelevant: it regulates registered intellectual property rights such as patents and registered designs. Whether or not this object has been protected in some countries by way of a registered design doesn't matter. It doesn't affect the owner's copyright which still subsists. --MichaelMaggs 09:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- That is... something to think about. Rocket000 01:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Two problems with your argument:
- No, the sentence is simply arguable... ;o) the purpose of that specific photograph is to represent the board, not the two drawings (one being upside down, tw). Michelet-密是力 19:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete The carpet itself is copyrighted design, a commercial design at that. Clear cut case of Commons:Derivative works. 98.204.112.111 06:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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- If there would be a baby, sitting on this carpet, what would this be ? If this is not kept, you 'll never again can have an image of a game. So keep it. --Peng 12:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [5] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete as a derivative work of a copyrighted game design. -- AlNo (discuter/talk/hablar/falar) 11:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC) Rocket000 20:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete Pretty obvious derivative of copyright material.
- I have to think about this more. Are all images that contain copyrighted material (like the artwork in here) automatically a copyvio ? Or would it similar to something like pictures of beer bottles which contain some copyrightable material? Rocket000 01:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep picture of a carpet. I agree. -N 01:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete It's not that it's a carpet; it's that the carpet has a design which is obviously copyrighted, so that the photo of it is a derivative work. Something like this could be used instead. Cowardly Lion 14:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Exactly. Spongebob Squarepants doesn't become Free culture the moment he's printed onto a t-shirt, backpack, or carpet. Neither does a copyrighted monopoly board. —LX (talk, contribs) 15:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Funkenschlag_table.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard and box MichaelMaggs 22:46, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:24, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep A game on a table in a garden with shadows on the picture. Whats wrong with it ? I took it with a tool from french wiki to here. Keep it. Thanks. --Peng 11:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete derivative work --Szczepan talk 00:34, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [6] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete as a derivative work of a copyrighted game design. -- AlNo (discuter/talk/hablar/falar) 11:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 14:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Focus_1.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard and box MichaelMaggs 22:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. --Peng 10:49, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "derivative work" must explain the difference between Image:Focus 1.jpg, Image:Focus 2.jpg and Image:Focus 3.jpg. They ask for the first one to be deleted and not for the second and third. Why ? This is a nonsense. These 3 images are just images of boardgames, not "derivative works". Rsalen 13:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [7] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:28, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete as a derivative work of a copyrighted game design. -- AlNo (discuter/talk/hablar/falar) 11:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 15:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:21, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Auf_Achse_3.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard and box MichaelMaggs 22:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. --Peng 10:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment can you explain why you want to delete this image : Image:Auf Achse 3.jpg and not these images : Image:Auf Achse 1.jpg, Image:Auf Achse 2.jpg, Image:Auf Achse 4.jpg. If you delete the first one, there is no reason to keep the others. So, you can delate ALL the games' pictures. Your request is unreasonable. Rsalen 12:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- We're not concerned in this request with the others, although several do appear to be untenable. If the primary subject is a copyright work (of the box, gameboard or whatever) the image must go. But if the copyright work is merely incidental to another subject it is OK. We can deal with the others if someone proposes them for deletion.--MichaelMaggs 19:01, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [8] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:28, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 15:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Cants_07.jpg
Copvio of design printed on box MichaelMaggs 22:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. And the foto is not really perfect, is it ? --Peng 10:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Contributors who want to delete Image:Cants 07.jpg and keep Image:Cants stop Asmodée.jpg must think about what appens if we delete ALL the games pictures. It is unreasonable to delete one and keep the other. Rsalen 13:04, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- You're right Image:Cants stop Asmodée.jpg is a copyvio as well.--MichaelMaggs 18:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [9] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete as a derivative work of a copyrighted game design. -- AlNo (discuter/talk/hablar/falar) 11:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 15:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Caylus_3D_-_1.jpg
Copvio of design of gameboard and box MichaelMaggs 22:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. And this a self-made oversized board, not the game vou can buy in stores. It was shown on the fair in Essen. --Peng 10:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [10] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete as a derivative work of a copyrighted game design. -- AlNo (discuter/talk/hablar/falar) 11:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 15:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:GameCon_2007_in_Pardubice_-_Dorn_1.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard MichaelMaggs 22:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. And here, the game is only half to be seen and hands are on the table. Why this campaign ? --Peng 10:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete. If you think images of toys are the only ones that can be affected by the copyright of the subject, then you've read Commons:Derivative works in a very creative way. —LX (talk, contribs) 19:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [11] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 15:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:GameCon_2007_in_Pardubice_-_Space_Walk1.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard and box MichaelMaggs 22:55, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. A game situation, a gamer in full action. So what ? --Peng 10:59, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [12] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete. Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 15:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Starfarers_of_Catan_1.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard and box MichaelMaggs 22:55, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. --Peng 11:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [13] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete. Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 15:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Starfarers_of_Catan_2.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard and box MichaelMaggs 22:56, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. And even fuzzy. --Peng 11:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 09:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [14] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Starship_Catan_2.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard MichaelMaggs 22:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. A game situation with coffee on the table - how else you can show a game ? --Peng 11:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 10:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [15] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 15:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:The_Market_of_Alturien_1.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard MichaelMaggs 22:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. You even can't see the whole board. --Peng 11:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 10:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [16] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep per other users. (and I see that here is no consensus for deletion.) --Dezidor 15:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete. Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 16:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Trivial_Pursuit_Game.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard MichaelMaggs 22:59, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom; derivative of copyrighted work. -- Infrogmation 05:07, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. On the floor and fuzzy ? Ridiculous. --Peng 11:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 10:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [17] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Clearly a derivative work. Cowardly Lion 16:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Ulysses_2.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard MichaelMaggs 22:59, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. Hands and Coffeepots on the table and you can read nothing - this is never copyrighted. --Peng 11:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 10:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [18] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 16:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:War_of_the_Ring.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard MichaelMaggs 23:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep This is not a toy , this is a game. Derivative works is about toys, not games. Keep it. --Peng 17:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. The perspective is horrible - never derivative. --Peng 11:07, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 10:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr [19] . --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 16:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Zombies!!!.JPG
Copvio of design printed on gameboard and box MichaelMaggs 23:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Why this campaign against boardgame's picture ? We need images to present boardgames on Wikipedia. Rsalen 05:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Please read Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 16:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Its a game, and NOT a toy (like it is described in the Derivative works. Such a fuzzy foto is never derivative. --Peng 11:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that COM:DW only applies to toys. No work that is primarily derived from another non-utilitarian creative work of the mind whose copyright has not yet expired can be licensed without the consent of the original copyright holder. Considerations of sharpness and image resolution might affect fair use considerations, but as long as it's not too blurry to illustrate its subject, it's detailed enough to infringe in contexts where fair use cannot apply.
Delete. —LX (talk, contribs) 11:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that COM:DW only applies to toys. No work that is primarily derived from another non-utilitarian creative work of the mind whose copyright has not yet expired can be licensed without the consent of the original copyright holder. Considerations of sharpness and image resolution might affect fair use considerations, but as long as it's not too blurry to illustrate its subject, it's detailed enough to infringe in contexts where fair use cannot apply.
Keep Keep. Per above, and I have used those various elements in creating this unique layout, which I further licensed under an open license.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm afraid that creating a unique layout does not authorise you to infringe the copyright of the game designer. This is a common misapprehension. --MichaelMaggs 22:22, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete derivative work. Megapixie 08:20, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not a copyo, just an image of the boardgame. Jedudedek 10:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Contibutors who turn up to say "Not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame" might like to read Commons:Derivative works. The game has a prominent printed design on it which is copyright. The owner of that copyright has not given consent to a reproduction. This image is a reproduction which is intended to show the design, and hence is a copyright infringement. --MichaelMaggs 17:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- The cover is purposely of low quality. The picture illustrates various elements of the game, cover is only a small part of it.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 05:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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- The cover is not the only copyrightable element. Again, if it's of good enough quality to illustrate the subject, it's clear enough to constitute copyright infringement. —LX (talk, contribs) 12:14, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- if it's of good enough quality to illustrate the subject, it's clear enough to constitute copyright infringement. That's a great quote, thanks :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 02:42, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: That sounds like a fair use rationale. Rocket000 20:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- The cover is not the only copyrightable element. Again, if it's of good enough quality to illustrate the subject, it's clear enough to constitute copyright infringement. —LX (talk, contribs) 12:14, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep keep I agree with Jedudedek and Piotr. --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 00:19, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep per other users. (and I see that here is no consensus for deletion.) --Dezidor 15:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete as a derivative work of a copyrighted game design. -- AlNo (discuter/talk/hablar/falar) 11:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC) Rocket000 20:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete per AlNo. Copyright overrides consensus anyway.
- What I said is true. But now I'm unsure about these. Rocket000 01:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete Derivative work. Cowardly Lion 16:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete Of course it is a derivative work, how could it not be? The only two debatable possibilities would be if the copyrighted parts are only incidental to the image (they are not, the entire purpose of the image is to show the copyrighted works), and that the original work is not copyrighted at all (nobody even tried to argue that way here, AFAICT). And what is that “not a copyvio, just an image of the boardgame” thing? Is there also e.g. “not a copyvio, just a recording of a music” justification? --Mormegil 16:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, derivative work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:GAM Genova-DSCF6709.JPG
This bust looks from the 20/30s. We need to know the authorship of this bust to know whether its author died more than 70 years ago or not --GeorgHH 13:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know the name of the author of this work. So, delete the picture. --「Twice29.0 · contributi · talk」 08:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per poster's reply --User:G.dallorto 16:20, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:WW2-Holocaust-Europe.png
This map shows the Nazi concentration camps of the 40ies with the state boarders of today. Thus it is unhistoric and useless and should be replaced quickly. A historical map should show the state borders of 38 and the range of the German occupation. As it looks now it looks like Netherlands, France etc. have sent their Jews to Auschwitz. I said that on the user page 10 days ago without response. Darapti Darapti 23:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep I understand your concerns, but I see no reason not to show where holocaust victims came from in relation to the borders of present day Europe. It's potentially a very useful image when used together with a historically accurate map from the 1939-45 period. It has all manner of possible uses, such as examining areas where the Jewish populations never recovered using the latest census data. Nick 00:20, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep It helps modern day users relate to today's political borders. Rlevse 02:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep I created it and I agree completely with the two keeps above. Unhistoric and useless - I don't think so; it's a matter of taste. You suggest 1938 borders... why 1938 in particular? The Holocaust hadn't started in earnest then. Why not 1942? Nah, it's a matter of taste - I think present borders are fine, as it connects it with the present so viewers may see where the camps actually were located. And your note on Netherlands, France sending Jews. etc. Well, were not Jews deported from these (occupied) countries? My regards, --Dna-Dennis 16:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)--Dna-Dennis 16:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)--Dna-Dennis 15:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Everyone who looks at this map will know that it refers to events of WW2 when most of Europe was occupied by Germany and its allies. No simple borders could be defined for that period since the situation was in continual flux. I do think 1938 borders would be better, but that's not sufficient to require deletion. However a statement that present-day borders are being used would be desirable. I don't know what Darapti means when s/he says that "As it looks now it looks like Netherlands, France etc. have sent their Jews to Auschwitz." No-one is going think that the modern France or Netherlands has concentration camps; however many Jews and others were deported from those countries in 1942-4. Paul Barlow 12:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep I understand your complaint, but it's hardly a reason for outright deletion! If the material is presented within the proper context, this map is far from "useless." Kindest regards, AlphaEta 03:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Info: For your information: Since not only Darapti has stated the opinion that historical borders would be better, I have decided to try to make another version of the map (but keep this old one). But it will take some time, and I have a little trouble deciding how to approach it, that is, which year(s) to use. The probs with '38 is that the Holocaust hadn't started in earnest at that time (and, for instance, Poland, France etc. had not been occupied/split). And there are problems with post '38 borders too, since the borders flow quite a bit between '39 and '45. It's actually a little b*tching headache... But I will have a go at it. If anyone has any suggestions, please contact me on my Wikipedia talk page, I'd be very thankful. Regards, --Dna-Dennis 22:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Since Dna-Dennis has agreed to create a new version I do not insist on deleting anymore. Sorry for saying useless. Darapti 16:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Info: Thanks Darapti. FYI (all) - I am working on a new map, but it will still take some time. It's a little tricky, this stuff...(but I knew it would be). But I have received great help from other wikipedians on it, really helpful! Regards, --Dna-Dennis 04:39, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Info: Updated the map with the first version (but likely not the last) with 1942 borders according to various suggestions. I kept the old map as Image:WW2-Holocaust-Europe-2007Borders.png. The new map perhaps ain't Da Vinci, but it's hard to make it any more detailed without scr*wing it up completely to utter incomprehensibility. Nevertheless, I'm still thankful for error checking and suggestions on my Wikipedia talk page. But please remember to first read the legend and image notes. Regards, --Dna-Dennis 11:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept, request withdrawn. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 09:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Telefe.gif
It's image is a logo of a television channel of the Argentine Republic, and logos (in this case) are copyrighted, unless the owner of rights has allowed this use. It is not work itself. --Belb 23:34, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Logos are presumed unfree unless provided otherwise. RedCoat 15:57, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete as above. -- This user loves Krittaya. 11:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Could be ineligible, depends on the level of originality required in Argentina. --rimshottalk 18:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Bejsovec_arms_blue.jpg
There is the same image here:Image:Bejsovec blue arms.jpg, no links to this page Karelj 20:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Mark it with duplicate template.--Ahonc 20:39, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Image is a duplicate, but is used on de: wiki. The image was resized presumably to fit into the article properly? I couldn't get the pixels right on the larger image, perhaps someone else can have a look. Deadstar (msg) 16:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted, image replaced. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Bejsovec_red_arms.jpg
There is the same image here:Image:Bejsovec arms red.jpg, no links to this page Karelj 20:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Image is a duplicate, but is used on de: wiki. The image was resized presumably to fit into the article properly? I couldn't get the pixels right on the larger image, perhaps someone else can have a look. Deadstar (msg) 16:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Other image deleted. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Pcconnection_cable_photo.jpg
Also:
These look like professional photos, and the article they are used in looks like it is copied from a website[20] -N 21:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete the first one. The quality of the close-ups is really bad, so taking the photos again wouldn't hurt. --32X 19:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment They don't look that professional to me, and that's not a reason to delete, anyway. But I know what you mean. Rocket000 19:36, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted first one, looks like coming from a website. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Entreprise 1er mai.jpg
dubious claim of self-creation ~ Riana ⁂ 22:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC) (Note: procedural nomination from me, 66.212.73.116 did not complete the deletion request)
Deleted. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Kaziranga images from Amartyabag
- File:Kazi-broadleaf.jpg ()
- File:Kazi-sunbird.jpg ()
- File:Kazi-openbill.jpg ()
- File:Kazi-pallaseagle.jpg ()
- File:Kazi-elegrass.jpg ()
Permission has not been given on otrs (the e-mail is ambiguous as to whether or not commercial use is allowed). ~ Riana ⁂ 16:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC) (Note: procedural nomination from me - originally request initiated by Eagle 101, who did not complete the process).
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[edit] Image:Beverbeck.jpg, Image:Bargdorf2.jpg and Image:Bornsen.jpg
Pictures were speedy-deleted by Notschrei. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 09:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Queen Soraya Tarzi.jpg
The Pd-old license only applies to United States and Canada, certainly not Afghanistan. -- Le Behnam 00:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC) --GeorgHH 13:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- AFAIK, Afghanistan doesn't have a copyright law at all. But we don't know when and by whom the picture was taken. Source is here, explanation given at that site says "Queen Soraya Tarzi of Afghanistan. Born in Damascus, Syria, Nov 24 1899 to Sardar Mahmud Tarzi an Afghan noble of the Barakzai dynasty living in exile in Damascus returned to Kabul upon king Habibullah’s ascendance to the Afghan throne. Soraya married Habibullah's son emir Amanullah in 1913. The emir became king in 1926 and Queen Soraya was the first wife of a Moslem ruler to appear with her husband in public including reviewing the troops and going on hunting trips. The king abdicated in 1929 to prevent civil war fueled by the conservatives who were against the King’s modernizing programs. She lived in Rome where she died on the 20th. of April 1968 and was buried next to her husband in Jalalabad." Lupo 17:10, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep - According to news reports in 2007, Afghanistan is working on copyright laws. The license tag which will be made in the future covers this image because most likely it will be similar as PD-Iran, PD-Iraq, PD-Syria, PD-United Arab Emirates, PD-Saudi Arabia, PD-Egypt and PD-Oman. This image was made before 1920s in Syria, before her arrival to Afghanistan, that's well over 70 years from the date of first publication. Anyway, I believe the correct license tag to be used for the time being is PD-Syria because the source is Syrian. [21] --Executioner 18:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep-per comment by Executioner--F3rn4nd0 22:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Il seems the picture does not represent Queen Soraya but Queen Elena of Italy. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:42, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Borassus_aethiopum_0003.jpg
There is the same image here:Image:Borassus aethiopum 0002.jpg no links t this page Karelj 23:35, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Image:Borassus_aethiopum_0002.jpg (original: P1020863.JPG) 16.07.2007 12:12:35 1.526 KB
- Image:Borassus_aethiopum_0003.jpg (original: P1020864.JPG) 16.07.2007 12:12:36 1.531 KB
- this is not a duplicate/the same and the view is little different - but i can't choose the best ;-) --Atamari 01:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC) (Creator)
Keep / A.J. 13:40, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Puerto_Rico_setup.jpg
Copvio of design printed on gameboard MichaelMaggs 22:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
DON'T delete please! stupid people don't know 'bout this game. It's spiritual!
- If we went by this logic, all of BoardGameGeek would be shuttered. I imagine Rio Grande Games (distributor of PR in the US) would have no issues of a photo of Puerto Rico showing up on Wikipedia. carl67lp 13 December 2007 16:23 UTC
- Maybe not, and it could probably be hosted there under 'fair use'. Unfortunately, on Commons images can be accepted only with free licences, which must include commercial use. They would not be happy if anyone were to try to make use of this image commercially. --MichaelMaggs 19:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- I took and uploaded this picture. If it's a copyvio, then delete it. But this means that almost the whole Category:Board games should be deleted, too? —Aslak 08:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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- I don't get how this could be used commercially in a way that would violate Rio Grande Games' rights, since there is no way you could copy their design through this image. --TBA 17:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Absolutely no one is going to use this image for marketing. It is not large enough, not well lit, and it does not seem to indicate the game's logo and at visually understood distance. --LauraVR
Delete It doesn't matter how "spiritual" it might be. Other websites can use copyrighted material under fair use; Commons does not. Unless the board game depicted is free licensed or public domain (no evidence has been presented that it is); Commons:Derivative work. Infrogmation (talk) 17:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Deleted. Derivative works of a copyrighted game boardBidgee (talk) 07:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:OrlandoCabrera.JPG
possible copyvio - missing information and description --F3rn4nd0 23:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete I think this is copyvio too. -- This user loves Krittaya. 12:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted -- Infrogmation 12:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Anne-Sophie_Pic_sepia.jpg
This deletion request also includes the following images which require deletion under the same OTRS ticket number. I've folded the images into the same deletion discussion and refactored comments left on the individual DRs. Nick
- Image:Maison_Pic_-_Salon_Hôtel_5_resize.jpg
- Image:Maison_Pic_-_Foie_gras_128.jpg
- Image:Maison_Pic_-_Turbot_jasmin_194.jpg
- Image:Maison_Pic_-_Rouget_banane_186.jpg
- Image:ASP_en_cuisine_par_JY_Salabaj.jpg
- Image:Façade_PIC_par_JY_Salabaj.jpg
- Image:Maison_Pic_-_Salle_restaurant.JPG
- Image:Salon_Hôtel_6.jpg
- Image:Maison_Pic_-_Entrée_7.JPG
- Image:Maison_Pic_-_Table_entrée_Michelin.jpg
- Image:Maison_Pic_-_Entrée_Hôtel_resize.jpg
copyright violation, OTRS Ticket#: 2007120210010511 Gribeco 03:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Je tiens ses photos et le droit de les diffuser sur wikipedia du service de communication d'Anne Sophie Pic office@pic-valence.com mais le photographe Jean Yves Salabaj jsalabaj
neuf.fr me dit qu'Anne Sophie Pic ne dispose pas des droits suffisants sur ses photos pour les diffuser comme elle le désire notamement en licence libre de droit. Vous pouvez donc effacez cette serie de photo ou vous metre en relation avec le photograhe Jean Yves Salabaj jsalabaj
neuf.fr ou Anne-Sophie Pic office
pic-valence.com pour discuter d'une " licence de diffusion appropriée " - Cordialement - User:Arnaud 25
- Je tiens ses photos et le droit de les diffuser sur wikipedia du service de communication d'Anne Sophie Pic office@pic-valence.com mais le photographe Jean Yves Salabaj jsalabaj
Delete all of these. I don't know what the OTRS ticket says, but I would think these are copyvios from [22]. Lupo 07:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete The OTRS ticket says that pic-valence.com does not have the right to grant a free licence, so we need to delete the images. --Simonxag 23:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete I've had a look at the ticket and picked up the gist of the complaint. The images do indeed need to be deleted and I would implore an administrator to close this discussion and delete the images as soon as possible, we don't really need more than 3 people who have read the ticket to confirm deletion is necessary, I hope. Nick 00:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. -- Infrogmation 05:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- Addendum: Image:Anne-Sophie_Pic_sepia.jpgdoes not belong to this deletion request anymore. This picture wasn't shot by Jean Yves Salabaj as the ones discussed here. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 07:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:TV_RIODOCE_01.JPG
Uploader first claimed GFDL-self then blanked the page. Jusjih 03:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Looks very like a Copyvio --Simonxag 23:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:TVRIODOCE02.jpg
Uploader first claimed self—the preceding unsigned comment was added by Jusjih (talk • contribs)
Deleted: reupload of a logo. Lugusto • ※ 00:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Mayak1.jpg
I seriously doubt that the Ukranian space agency licenses its materials under GDFL 1.2 or later... TheDJ 04:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted, as per nom. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 09:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Groundcomplexukrainian.jpg
Ukranian Space agency licenses its photos under GDFL ? don't think so. TheDJ 04:06, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. -- Infrogmation 07:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted, as per nom. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 09:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Bathel,_Capel_yr_Annibynwyr,_Tal-y-bont.jpg
Duplicate under wrong name Thaf 09:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Duplicate of Image:Bethel, Capel yr Annibynwyr, Tal-y-bont.jpg. Deadstar (msg) 10:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Puijo_1963.jpg
Cannot be in PD. See also Image:Puijo 1963 adjusted.jpg. 192.100.116.143 12:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Can't be PD-70. Might be PD, but no evidence it is. --Simonxag 23:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:AlfabetoGeheinetz2.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 14:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Simonxag 23:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete no, that has really copyright. __ ABF __ ϑ 18:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:SCUnion.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 14:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Simonxag 23:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy-deleted by Rama ("logo"). Jastrow (Λέγετε) 11:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Pager X5.jpg
Copyvio, if the {{copyrighted free use}} template is not confirmed by the actual CEO of the company (via OTRS). -- AlNo (discuter/talk/hablar/falar) 15:20, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Infostream should be contacted before deletion and their response accepted even if it comes from an underling. (CEOs tend to delegate and not handle correspondence or marketing tasks themselves.) This upload is quite plausible: if you make things rather than media, you need to get marketing images out there and being used; licensing images' use is generally not one of your sources of revenue. --Simonxag 23:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment The image has been about for the best part of a year, so I would be reasonably surprised if the company hasn't come across the image, so it seems reasonable to assume good faith on the part of the uploader and assume they are being honest with the licence details on the image. If someone could contact the company and confirm either way, that would be a sensible course of action to take. Nick 02:58, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment I've contacted Infostream regarding this image, hopefully we should have a response soon. ~ Riana ⁂ 12:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)- We have a response which asserts that this is fine to use. I've sent this correspondence to OTRS and it is logged at otrs:1232064. If another OTRS user could please close the ticket and add the permission to the image? Thanks, ~ Riana ⁂ 01:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep: Confirmation of image being licensed as a {{copyrighted free use}} has been received through OTRS. There is no longer any concern over the image. Nick 02:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Sasha_Grey_DSC_0237.JPG
Subject doesn't like, and we now have 5 better alternatives. AnonEMouse 16:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Specifically, User:Madjabuds says she is Sasha Grey, and has been campaigning to get rid of these two images for reasons of low quality for a while now (see also Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Sasha_Grey.JPG - check those images talk pages, and Talk:Sasha Grey). (I can't guarantee she is Grey, but it seems likely.) Before I wanted to keep the images because we didn't have any, or many, better ones. Now we do, we have five that Madjabuds doesn't object to, at Sasha Grey. These two don't seem to give us anything that the other five don't, and we aren't out to be nasty to the subject on purpose, so I think we can delete them just to be nice, without it costing the encyclopedia anything. Nice is good. :-) --AnonEMouse 16:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment I have contacted Madjabuds giving her instructions on how to contact OTRS. I believe we should wait until she has done so and cemented her identity as the subject - I'd be uncomfortable to proceed without verification that she is indeed Ms Grey. ~ Riana ⁂ 17:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, if you have OTRS access, you should probably check the OTRS link on Image:SG01.jpg, which Madjabuds uploaded. I don't know what verification she sent that she is the owner of the image, but I would not be surprised if it would also suffice to show that she was Sasha Grey. --AnonEMouse 23:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks Mouse, I did so and the uploader is indeed Sasha Grey. ~ Riana ⁂ 06:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, if you have OTRS access, you should probably check the OTRS link on Image:SG01.jpg, which Madjabuds uploaded. I don't know what verification she sent that she is the owner of the image, but I would not be surprised if it would also suffice to show that she was Sasha Grey. --AnonEMouse 23:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep I think, a good solution is to keep this photo out of article Sasha Grey but we can have it in the category; I think it should be no problem. --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 06:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted as a matter of courtesy. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 17:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Sasha_Grey.JPG
Subject doesn't like, and we now have 5 better alternatives. AnonEMouse 16:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Specifically, User:Madjabuds says that she is Sasha Grey, and has been campaigning to get rid of these two images for reasons of low quality for a while now (see also Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Sasha_Grey_DSC_0237.JPG - check those images' talk pages, and Talk:Sasha Grey). (I can't guarantee she is, but it seems very likely.) Before I wanted to keep the images because we didn't have any, or many, better ones. Now we do, we have five that Madjabuds doesn't object to, at Sasha Grey. These two don't seem to give us anything that the other five don't, and we aren't out to be nasty to the subject on purpose, so I think we can delete them just to be nice, without it costing the encyclopedia anything. Nice is good. :-) --AnonEMouse 16:57, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Videmus Omnia 21:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete and the problem will have finished for the time being.
I think that problems like these need a solution more definitive.([[User talk:Vicond
- Keep I think, a good solution is to keep this photo out of article Sasha Grey but we can have it in the category; I think it should be no problem. --Nolanus ✉ (C | E) 06:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Comment On this moment the two photos are there,but,the problem is that now she doesn't like others two photos with the name (At a party on October 11, 2007)See the talk page.So,and now...
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- :-(. I didn't understand that at first, but it seems you are right. That does weaken the argument a bit, doesn't it? She did upload three pictures herself, though, that's not nothing. We'd still have those three. And the other two are mostly pictures of sunglasses, rather than depicting her in any representative way... --AnonEMouse 17:20, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yes,and now I think the same.Those other two pictures can also be in the category but not into the gallery and the problem will have finished.Now,I hope other users will not vandalize her page again.Thanks.
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Deleted as a matter of courtesy, as per Vicond. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 17:32, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:World Trade Center Observation Deck New York City 1999.jpg
I see cc-by-nc-sa-2.0 today, but I cannot find cc-by-2.0 from Flickr anymore, so I would like to ask for comments while w:Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images/2007_December_3#Image:World_Trade_Center_Observation_Deck_New_York_City_1999_corrected.jpg is in discussion and I am removing the speedy deletion nomination.--Jusjih 19:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment According to User:Para/Flickr/Identical licenses/Cc-by always (M-) (Warning: 160kb page) it was indeed originally licensed as cc-by-2.0. --88.134.141.133 14:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - image was flickr reviewed and confirmed to be under a free license. CC licenses are irrevocable and we can continue to use the image under the old license. That's why we have the flickr review program. --UserB 02:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept as per UserB. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 11:28, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Primer cuadro.jpg
Image is painted by Eugeniusz Kazimirowski (pl:Eugeniusz Kazimirowski, † 1939). See http://www.faustyna-barmherzigkeit.com/zgromadzenie_niema.htm for details (in German). --Noddy93 20:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Simonxag 23:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted, copyviol, false license. -- Infrogmation 12:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Christinae_kyrka_altarpiece01.jpg
no PD, the painter died 1989 - the licence of the photographer is useless 84.142.75.228 21:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Simonxag 23:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Although the picture was not given the PD-tag, the rest of the statement by anonymous user 84.142.75.228 is correct. Photographers license (mine) is of no use, and picture shall therefore be deleted. Xauxa 10:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Wikimania_(Day_1)_014.jpg
Effectively a screenshot of The Colbert Report. dave pape 04:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted as a derivative work. RedCoat 17:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Sinxy.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 14:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Simonxag 23:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. --Christian NurtschTM 15:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Hamid Karzai 150.jpg
The author of this image is not Voice of America as indicated by the uploader. This image may not qualify under VOA license. The VOA license only applies to images that were taken by VOA reporters or staff, which are written next to each such photo. Not all photos are owned by VOA and this is clearly explained by the VOA license tag.--Executioner 00:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. The uploader User:Le Behnam keeps removing the deletion tag after I explained to him to stop.--Executioner 22:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment As the license description says, it belongs to VOA unless otherwise stated on the bottom of the article. -- Le Behnam 11:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete "...VOA has a license from Associated Press to use AP photos and graphics. All AP material is copyrighted and the property of Associated Press, and may not be copied, published or redistributed without the written permission of Associated Press. Associated Press text, photo, graphic, audio and/or video material shall not be published, broadcast, rewritten for broadcast or publication or redistributed directly or indirectly in any medium. Neither these AP materials nor any portion thereof may be stored in a computer except for personal and non-commercial use. AP will not be held liable in any way to the User or to any third party or to any other person who may receive information in the Service or to any other person whatsoever, for any delays, inaccuracies, errors or omissions therefrom or in the transmission or delivery of all or any part thereof or for any damages arising from any of the foregoing or occasioned thereby..." Although it is not marked, this image of Karzai was created by or belongs to AP (Associared Press).--Executioner 18:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment How is it known? I don't see any AP notice in the article. --Ecemaml (talk to me/habla conmigo) 22:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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- We're not talking about written report but images only. On the license it states "NOTE that the VOA republishes reporting from AP, AFP and others. These ARE NOT in the public domain. Check the credit for any image or photo".... Where it says "and others" they are refering to any news agency that is not VOA. Some news agencies such as AP and AFP include a small note next to their images while others don't. If you look around you'll see some of the images found in VOA articles stating that it was taken by VOA reporter, and the VOA license applies only to those ones.--Executioner 21:21, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment On VOA when an images belongs to someone else they give the credit for it. So clearly this image does belong to VOA, it even looks like a screenshot of their news show. The user who has requested this to be deleted is doing so just because he doesn't like that the picture exposes his hero Hamid Karzai as a former Taliban. Le Behnam 23:12, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept as there is no evidence that it is not a work by VoA. --Tom (talk - email) 23:32, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Tafelberg.jpg
Unsure which Wikipedia the image is from. Jusjih 02:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- From the Dutch: [23] It's made by myself. Casperinfo 16:54, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep -- This user loves Krittaya. 12:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete -- No license or source ("Wikipedia" is not a valid source - where is the image this was based on?). Deadstar (msg) 09:57, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept - user claims he created image. --Tom (talk - email) 23:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Crow_man.jpg
Self-admitted derivative work. The Spanish description (taken from Flickr) says "A scene from the first film." Lupo 07:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- BTW, there are some more drawings from this Flickr user that all also look like they were derived from either photos or video stills: Image:Jack_Sparrow_-_drawing.jpg, Image:James Hetfield - drawing.jpg, Image:Kirk Hammet - drawing.jpg, and Image:Chris Cornell - drawing.jpg. Lupo 07:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep If there is no clear evidence we shouldn't consider that all there arts are derivative works... Regards Elektron 08:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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Delete delete the lot. If the Flickr user doesn't understand derivative works and copyrights, we can't trust any of their licenses. --Simonxag 23:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Where there is evidence that they are derived from photos or videos ask for the source image to be specified. If it can not be shown to be a freely licensed work then delete as per normal processes. Explain the problem to the user, or point them to the appropriate info. It is not reasonable to start a delete everything campaign, we should be drawing people in to contribute to the project, not discouraging them with perfunctory actions :-). --Tony Wills 12:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Delete. Obvious derivative. --Durin 16:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete I still don't see how images of real-life subjects (vs. things like cartoon characters) that could have been drawn from memory are derivatives (no need to tell me again, Lupo :), but Image:Crow man.jpg is pretty much just fan art. Copyright status aside, all of them are artwork by a non-notable person. Not very useful. Rocket000 22:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted. Mormegil 16:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:South_Vietnam_coat_of_arms.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 14:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep u haven't brought any evidence that it is copyrighted, and since it is unused since 1975, it is therefore verymuch copyleft. Oren neu dag 13:57, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted by Thuresson: In category Unknown as of 14 January 2008; no source
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[edit] Image:Wladyslaw_Luszczkiewicz.jpg
Not fully sure that the copyright has expired. Jusjih 02:43, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept, must have been taken before 1900, person died in that year [24] Kameraad Pjotr 21:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Shenzhen_Metro_Map.png
Replaced by Shenzhen Metro Map hk.gif and Shenzhen Metro Map cn.gif, in which both traditional and simplified Chinese are provided. This old image created by me is no longer used in any articles. Keithorz 11:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept. We would rather keep them, thanks :) – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 13:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Saba_coa.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 14:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment see also this discussion for the same image in different format: Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Coat of Arms of Saba.svg. Unresolved as of today. Deadstar (msg) 10:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:12, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Reichstag flag.jpg
According to the current Russian Copyright Law (1993-2007 as Copyright Law and 2008-... as Part IV of the Civil Code) - time of copyright protection of work is determined based on biographical data of his author. In Russia the author is natural person and there are only two exceptions:
- Juridical person can be author in the term of law if work was first publicated outside Russia.
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- Juridical person can be author in the term of law if work was first publicated before August 3 1993 (or 1992) and represents
- scientific collection, encyclopedia, dictionary, journal (magazine), newspaper or other periodical (in that case - Juridical person is author in the term of law only for compilation as a whole. Each constituent of such compilation is independently protected under of his real author);
- movies and telefilms;
- radio and television broadcasts.
So, according to Russian Copyright Law, this image is copyrighted until the end of 2071 = 1997 (Yevgeny Khaldei death year) +70 + 4. Alex Spade 18:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- (Note to Whomever in charge, sorry if You don't want this in this section. If theres a problem please edit this, do not delete it):The copyright Laws are all being followed and this is nothing but a waste of time. This is a recognized piece of history and it should be respected upon like any other piece of history.S.P.R 18:33, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- On reading this template, {{PD-Russia}}, I see that it says "Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities published before January 1st, 1954, are also public domain in Russia."
- w:Yevgeny Khaldei worked for w:TASS until 1949 according to his wikipedia bio. I believe this photograph may have been published by TASS. --Timeshifter 00:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- This is lost in translation. In reality the term "Works belonging to ... legal entities" does not mean that "They are owners and/or copyright holders" - it's mean "They are authors in the terms of law".
- Yes, it's possible that TASS is copyrighter holder of this work, but TASS is not author in the term of law. Alex Spade 06:42, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete. First, this is not the image that was published by TASS in 1945. This is a version that was published for the first time in the 1990s (AFAIK, in the exhibition catalog "From Moscow to Berlin", 1999). As such, this version is copyrighted in the U.S. until 70 years after Khaldei's death (created before 1978, but published 1978 or later, but before the end of 2002). Second, from January 1, 2008 on, this image will be copyrighted anyway in Russia according to the new Russian copyright law that will then enter in effect. See {{PD-Russia-revised}}. Third, also delete Image:Red army soldiers raising the soviet flag on the roof of the reichstag berlin germany.jpg: that is the version published by TASS, but it too will be copyrighted in Russia from January 1, 2008 on. It may be PD in the U.S., if so, move that one to the English Wikipedia. Fourth, also remove Image:Red-flag-on-Reichstag, another angle, no smoke..jpg: no idea when this was published; it doesn't have a source, and will also become copyrighted again in Russia on January 1, 2008. Lupo 08:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- P.S.: If Alex had not nominated these images now, I would have done so in January... because from January on, these images are copyrighted in Russia even if we assume that TASS were the author, because the new Russian copyright law pushes back the cut-off for PD in Russia by eleven years, making any work first published in 1943 or later not PD there. Lupo 08:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- I thinl tht this shoul be appleed to the Pubilc Domain. —the preceding unsigned comment was added by 156.34.32.187 (talk • contribs)
Delete ich habe bereits 2 Löschanträge gestellt... --Marcela 01:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete --Eva K. tell me about it 20:28, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Copyright violation. Chaddy 20:41, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Eindeutig eine Urheberrechtsverletzung. --ST ○ 22:04, 15 December 2007 (UTC)- delete --Historiograf 13:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete --Jodo 00:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete ---jha- 00:47, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Aspect "Work made for Hire"
Keep First, this is the image that was published by TASS in 1945 all right. The fact that one of the wrist watches was removed on the originally published image doesn't make it a different image/work/photograph that was published in 1999. If anything the artist who altered the original image could claim copyright to his "artwork", just that this is unlikely since the work was done as a Soviet government employee. The same goes for the image. It's taken by the Soviet military photographer during his military service. Therefore the image is in PD Russia and in PD US according to the year 1978 rule all right. Finally, the retroactivity of the rights for works made by the Soviet military serviceman like the image here, should be better referenced. In any case, even if the rights of the author are going to be covered retroactively from Jan 2008 on, it doesn't necessary mean an image is not in PD or free any more. The rights of the author in cases of military service etc. do not limit the use of such images. In any case I'd put this deletion procedure on hold until the claims above are sorted out exactly according to the new Russian copyright law. For doing it, please provide English translation of the law. Thanks!--Termer 20:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- Repeat this image will be copyrighted until end of 2071. TASS is not author in the terms of law. The Russian copyright law hasn't got corporative copyright exept three cases, which are described in the begining of this discussion. Alex Spade 10:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps you misunderstood me? Please provide an official translation of the new Russian copyright law so it can be determined how exactly the authors rights are going to be covered retroactivly. As even if authors rights apply, it doesn't necessary men the image is going to be copyrighted. Whatever the case, the image remains in PD US according to the 1978 rule therefore there is no reason to hurry with the deletion procedure here.--Termer 08:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't say about retroativity of 2008-law. The E.Khaldei always was author of this image under terms of 1964-Soviet-Law, 1993-Russian-law, 2004-Russian-law. The retroactivity is nothing in this case. Alex Spade 11:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's good since according to the Russian copyright law article 14 works created during official duties, the exclusive rights including copyright belong to the Soviet state that have expired. The author only had/has moral rights that are spelled out in article 15.--Termer 22:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- You are reading article 14 incorrectly. The copyright holder of this image is w:ITAR-TASS now, its copyrights is not expired, because time of protection is depending on biographical data of author-employee. Repeat phrase Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities published before January 1st, 1954, are also public domain in Russia. is saying about initial copyrights of legal entities - the respective initial copyrights (whem legal entity is author in the terms of law) can be appear only in three case, which are mentioned at the beginig of topic. Alex Spade 10:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's good since according to the Russian copyright law article 14 works created during official duties, the exclusive rights including copyright belong to the Soviet state that have expired. The author only had/has moral rights that are spelled out in article 15.--Termer 22:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't say about retroativity of 2008-law. The E.Khaldei always was author of this image under terms of 1964-Soviet-Law, 1993-Russian-law, 2004-Russian-law. The retroactivity is nothing in this case. Alex Spade 11:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps you misunderstood me? Please provide an official translation of the new Russian copyright law so it can be determined how exactly the authors rights are going to be covered retroactivly. As even if authors rights apply, it doesn't necessary men the image is going to be copyrighted. Whatever the case, the image remains in PD US according to the 1978 rule therefore there is no reason to hurry with the deletion procedure here.--Termer 08:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Repeat this image will be copyrighted until end of 2071. TASS is not author in the terms of law. The Russian copyright law hasn't got corporative copyright exept three cases, which are described in the begining of this discussion. Alex Spade 10:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep This has been discussed time and time again.. Do you really think it would be promoted to FP on Wiki if it were a copyright violation? 76.238.98.148 01:49, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Nothing has been said to establish a violation here. -N 01:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep {{PD-Russia}} states it clearly and unambiguosly. If you disagree with template, fix it first. Mikkalai 06:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- {{PD-Russia}} has got lost in translation in the case of legal entities.
- Instead.
- Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities published before January 1st, 1954, are also public domain in Russia.
- For Wikipedia purposes must be
- Films published before January 1st, 1954 by Soviet cinema studious, are also public domain in Russia.
- Alex Spade 10:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep--Kuban kazak 13:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep Until we get some definitive English translations of the Russian copyright law, and some understanding about whether World War 2 TASS photos are in the public domain or not. Also, Termer may be right that this original photo is still considered a TASS photo even if it was doctored before printing. And I would like to know if the photo is still in the public domain outside Russia. Can Russia retroactively revoke public domain outside Russia? --Timeshifter 15:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- I can't even take the idea seriously that somehow the same photo taken by the same photographer published in 1945 and 1999 has 2 different ways to determine the rights of the guy who took the image etc. because that's what the deletion nomination refers to: to the extension of the authors rights from 2008 on in Russia. The author in this case would be the guy who snapped that pic.--Termer 08:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- The 2008-law is unimpotant in this case. This image is copyrighted by Yevgeny Khaldei's legatees in accordance with both 1993-law and 2004-law. Alex Spade 10:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but the Russian copyright law is pretty clear about it that Yevgeny Khaldei or his legatees do not own copyright to this image since it's work created in the performance of official duties... . Please see Article 14. However, the authors rights that have been extended retroactively are limited according to Article 15. Personal Rights (Moral Rights): the right to be recognized as the author of the work; the right to use or allow the use of the work under the author's true name or pseudonym; the right to protect the work, including its title, against any distortion or other infringement prejudicial to the author's honor and dignity or without designation of name, etc.--Termer 06:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- PS. to spell it out, the Exclusive Rights of this image have belonged to the Soviet Army, TASS as the government publisher would be even irrelevant regarding copyright. Since the Exclusive Rights have belonged to the Soviet Military where Yevgeny Khaldei performed his official duties, the image is in PD Russia according to Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities published before January 1st, 1954.--Termer 06:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Your reading and/or understnding of law is incorrectly. The respective article says: Who is copyright holder? - Employer. And who is author? - Employee. Time of copyright protection of work is determined based on biographical data of his author, not his employer. I have explained your case above to User:Timeshifter
- In reality (in appropriate translation) the term "Works belonging to ... legal entities" does not mean that "They are owners and/or copyright holders" - it's mean "They are authors in the terms of law".
- Yes, E.Khaldei as employee could make this image for TASS as employer, i.e. it's possible that TASS is copyrighter holder of this work, but TASS is not author in the term of law.Alex Spade 11:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- The 2008-law is unimpotant in this case. This image is copyrighted by Yevgeny Khaldei's legatees in accordance with both 1993-law and 2004-law. Alex Spade 10:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I can't even take the idea seriously that somehow the same photo taken by the same photographer published in 1945 and 1999 has 2 different ways to determine the rights of the guy who took the image etc. because that's what the deletion nomination refers to: to the extension of the authors rights from 2008 on in Russia. The author in this case would be the guy who snapped that pic.--Termer 08:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep as per Termer above. Yann 00:31, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Termer is wrong. Alex Spade 11:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- The only thing to add to Andros64 would be that the exclusive rights belonged to the Soviet state according to Article 14 of the Russian copyright law only when the work was created during official duties (which was the military service in this case) or employment. In case any work was made by a private citizen for his/her private needs, exclusive rights including copyright would still belong to the author of the work. Since the photo under discussion here was made during official duties, the exclusive rights belonged to the Soviet state that have expired and the author only had/has moral rights according to Article 15, like it has been pointed out already several times.--Termer 22:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Repeat from above. The copyright holder of this image is w:ITAR-TASS now, its copyrights is not expired, because time of protection is depending on biographical data of author-employee. Repeat phrase Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities published before January 1st, 1954, are also public domain in Russia. is saying about initial copyrights of legal entities - the respective initial copyrights (whem legal entity is author in the terms of law) can be appear only in three case, which are mentioned at the beginig of topic. Alex Spade 10:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment The duration of the rights retroactively are also very clearly spelled out in the Russian copyright law: [25] Duration of copyright Article 27 Comment 1 : if afore defined 50 years term of copyright is expired by the 28the of July 2004, then such a term is not to be prolonged. It's pretty straight forward. Since the rights expired originally in 1945+50=1995, the 70 years term is not even applied according to the 28the of July 2004 rule to the photo here.--Termer 18:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- The act of retroacivity is very bad spelled. You just didn't see many and long discussions about such problem. The problem was solved only in 2006. Alex Spade 14:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- PS.I hate to point it out once more but the author of the photo legally is not the guy who took the pic but its according to Article 14 the 'Author of a Work made for hire meaning the Soviet Military where Yevgeny Khaldei performed his official duties. In case it's not clear what or who is the "Author of a Work made for Hire" let me spell it out: If a work is a work made for hire, the employer or other. person for whom the work was prepared is the author.[26] --Termer 20:11, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Dear Termer. You still doesn't understand. The phrase "Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities published before..." is camed from point 4 and 5 of Implementation Act of 1993-Russian-copyright-law. They are not saying about article 14 "Works made for Hire" or its predecessor from Soviet Russia. They are saying about article 485 (scientific collection, encyclopedia, dictionary, journal (magazine), newspaper or other periodical), 486 (cinema and TV films) and 486 (radio and TV broadcating) of Civil Code of RSFSR[27]. , You can find this thesis in the most of commentary to Russian copyright law (for example by Gavrilov E.P.[28] - "Комментарий к постановлению о порядке введения в действие Закона" point 11-16) and in some aspects in High Court Decision [29]. This thesis was thoroughly checked in Ru-Wiki by users, which are fluent in Russian.
- You can try to continue, but this is useless, you just lose the time. This way is closed, there isn't "hole" in law in this case. The way of Andros64 is more adequate. Alex Spade 14:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep as per Termer--SkyDrinker 03:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Aspect "Simultaneous publication in some states"
Keep In any case Russia is not the only legal successor for the Soviet Union - there were 16 republics of USSR. All photos of TASS were simultaneously published in all of 16 republics of USSR (especially in Stalin times) - in agencies which were republican (quasi-independent ;) ) and in press of all Soviet republics (It was a part of all-Union coordination of propaganda). In conclusion - for example this photo as published by TASS belongs to {{PD-Ukraine}} too. It means, that in any case - every Soviet photos, published before the beginning of 1952 , by Soviet state agencies , Soviet press , - belongs also to {{PD-Ukraine}} (and are the subject of copyright regulations of the rest of former Soviet republics too) . It is possible, that in other former Soviet Republics the term of securing copyright may be shorter.
In any case there is no reason for deleting this photo, and any Soviet photos till the beginning of 1952 (from the WW II particularly). A little bit of common sense - please.
In conclusion - the changes of regulations in Russia does not automatically deprive Soviet photo a state of PD. Especially - there was no private property in the case of copyright in USSR of Stalin times (30-50-ties) at all. All published images were state (state agencies) property in the time of publishing.
PS.It would be strange for me to remove well known images just from history of Russia an the whole world , or to force to retag there into republican tags - in the final result. Best regards for everybody and Happy New Year! Andros64 16:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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- There was 15 republics in USSR at the disintegration moment. Karelo-Finish SSR was part of RSFSR since 1956, and also Republic Tuva (Tyva) was since 1944. The three of them: Estonia, Litva, Latvia aren't recognize legal successor of USSR themselves.
- All photos of TASS were simultaneously published in all of 16 republics of USSR. Two points
- You want to say: All works published in USSR were simultaneously published in all republics? May be, may be. May be I can support this thesis earlier or in rediscussion of the situation with deprecated {{PD-USSR}}. But results of discussion, where this thesis was as one of variant of problem solution, were another.
- You want to say: All works of telegraph agency were simultaneously published in the whole of broadcasting zone? No. The place of publication for broadcasting systems is place of emission, not place of receiving.
- And again. There were/are not corporative copyrights in USSR, RSFSR, other 14 republics and all 12 their legaletees. The time of protection - 50 or 70 years - is unimpotant in this case. Yevgeny Khaldei died in 1997. If we use shorter time of protection, this image still be copyrighted until the end of 2047. Alex Spade 11:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment There are two different cases : the first one - the moral rights of author - the second one - the material rights ( property of photo). In any case in 1945 and later there was no legal possibility for private ownership of copyrights in Soviet Union. In effect - in time of publication all material ( property) rights have belonged to the state.
- Really? Did you read 1925-USSR-copyright-law [30]? The material rights and point "who is author?" are perfectly shown in it. The E.Khaldei is always author of this photo, according to 1925-law, 1964-law, 1993-law, 2004-law, 2008-law. TASS (ITAR-TASS) is always only copyright holder. Alex Spade 10:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment First : TASS had affiliates in 14 Union republics (RSFSR was covered by TASS itself) see en:TASS. Second : "There were/are not corporative copyrights in USSR, RSFSR, other 14 republics and all 12 their legaletees".- see your remark above. It was a state property of Soviet Union, and now its legal successors and a subject of various, different regulations in different states - 12 former Soviet republics.
- Yes. TASS was all-Soviet organization. But TASS was/is copyright holder for its works, the republican agencies for their works. They were changing them for republication (redistribution), for translarion and etc., but all of them have got independent copyright. More over, you have written "It was a state property of Soviet Union" - TASS was, but not TASS copyright. The 1964-law is perfectly divided state copyright propetry (which was in PD in most cases) and state and state-owned organizations' copyright propetry (which was copyrighted termless). Alex Spade 14:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
You are right in the question of number of republics ( I've written about the situation just in 1945).
One remark - We don't talk about "the broadcasting zone" but about simultanuos publication of photo in republican press (and press agencies - in Moscow, Kiev, Minsk, Tbilisi an so on) in Stalinist times (Till Gorbachov times it was the same situation in fact).
The main question in this particular case is the legal one. In 1945 - time of publication - the owner of this photo was Soviet Union as a state (you are right - it was none corporative rights in SU that time, but there was no copyright private property at all too). Such way - present law regulations may renew or restore an existing in the past material (property) law (when it was expired) in retroactive. Present law regulations may not and cannot in any case create material (property) law in retroactive.
- Nothing was. All rights belong to author in the time of USSR (Sometimes the legal entity can be author, but only in three cases). 1993-law is retroactive - it's perfectly shown in 2006-High Court Resolution. You still want to rediscuss the results of discussion about status {{PD-USSR}} (and {{PD-Russia}} in current). Alex Spade 10:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
So,every photo has its author, but not every has its proprietor. As for today Yevgeny Khaldei is an author (with all moral rights to work), but for reason of specifical Soviet regulations ( and last but not least - not respecting by SU Berne Convention that time) he wasn't an owner of material right (proprietor) of the work in time of publishing.
- You still want to rediscuss the results of discussion about status {{PD-USSR}} (and {{PD-Russia}} in current). Alex Spade 10:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
For this reason - apart from case of legal succesors of state property of Soviet Union (these 12 republics - you've noticed above) there is no reason for deleting this image.
Best regards Andros64 17:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment In any case Wikipedia cannot create the law , but respect the existing one. In case of state property of Soviet Union there are 12 (not single one) legal successors - with different regulations - and the regulations of Russia towards legal situation in the past are not the only one and definitive. In such cases Berne Convention is in effect.
Besides - It is also the question strict distintion of moral and material rights for the work. Every photos that time was state property of Soviet state (as a federation) and their authors were paid for. No one denies moral right for the work, but material ( property) ones are also out of discussion - as a property of former (non-existing at present) state they belong to the jurisdiction of all legal successors - and has to be treated as published in the whole area of former Soviet Union.
Best regards: Andros64 11:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Art. 12. Авторское право в части или в целом может быть отчуждено по издательскому договору или иным законным способом, при чем характер использования авторского права должен быть определен в точности договором. Договоры о переуступке авторского права должны быть, под страхом недействительности, заключаемы в письменной форме. ( "Copyright can be tranferred partly of fully by the way of agreement or another way according to the law, the form of transferring of copyright shall be decribed by agreement in detail. Agreements on tranferring copyright shall be made in the written form to be legally valid.")
Art 9. (...)Для сохранения за фотографом авторского права на фотографические зображения требуется означение на каждом экземпляре: 1) фирмы или имени, фамилии и места жительства фотографа или издателя фотографии и 2) года выпуска в свет фотографического произведения.1925-USSR-copyright-law (translating into English is necessary ? - "Art.9 for securing copyright for the image by photographer clear copyright notice on every copy of photo , including 1) his name , legal address of photographer or editor and 2) year of publication of photo - is necessary" - it is clear regulation of Soviet copyright law of 1925 , legally valid in 1945 in Soviet Union.)
Are these conditions fullfilled in this situation? Andros64 14:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Dear Andros64, you still want to discuss the results of discussion of {{PD-Soviet}} by in some other way and add some another aspects.
- We still don't know whem and where this image was first publicated. We are assuming, that it was in 1945 in all 16(15) republics, but we don't know. For example User:Lupo said, that it was first publicated in the exhibition catalog "From Moscow to Berlin", (1999). But for I suggest, that this is not very impotant, lets this image was first publicated in 1945 in all 16(15) republics.
- As I understand, you aren't trying to say "Work publicated in USSR, publicated in all 15(***) republics" (this way is closed by early discussion), you are trying to say "TASS-work publicated in all 15 republics". Ok, this is possible.
- The author of this image is natural person, not TASS. TASS is only copyrigted holder.
- According to 1925-law this image was in PD since Jan.1 1949 (1951 - if it was in colection), before 1964-law. 1964-law wasn't retroactive.
- So, we must to examine 12 new post-Soviet copyright law for retroacitive act [31].
- Russia - full national retroactivity, no international.
- AZ - commonly N/A, for photoworks no retroactivity.
- AM - full national retroactivity. International? - N/A.
- Ukraine - full international retroactivity.
- ... and etc.
- So, in our case in some post-Soviet states, there are not retroactive acts or information about it for photowork. But in some there are.
- What is Berne Convention saying about protection in the case of simultaneous publication in some states in Article 5 point 4? The time of protection is smallest from state-specific law (but state must be participant of convention and time couldn't be less then 50 years from the death or publication - because this is base time for convention). But this case is only for works which can be copyrighted. If some state didn't protect some works, this is not mean, that such work cann't be copyrighted in other state during Simultaneous publication. For example, COA of Canada is copyrighted in Canada, but not copyrighted in Russia. In USA works of NASA is PD, but in Russia they are copyrighted by NASA (or their authors). In Russia - all state flags and COAs uncopyrigted, in Beralus - only Belarus state flag and COA (in singular).
- Yes. This image could be in PD in Azerabaidzhan and some other post-Soviet states, but it's copyrigthed in Russia, in Ukraine, in Armenia and some other post-Soviet states.
- But what is saying Wiki-Commons rules? The work must be free in USA and in country (countries) of origin. This work are not free in some countries of origin. Alex Spade 15:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Back of Aspect "Work made for Hire"
Comment Nothing you have said here has changed anything. Copyright principles are the same everywhere. So in that sense the Russian copyright law is no different. It is straight forward. The work is made during official duties therefor Exclusive rights belonged to the Employer , Soviet state, who is the author of the work in legal sense whose Exclusive rights including copyright expired 50 years after publication according to the 28the of July 2004 mark and the guy who made the pic has/had moral rights only. There is nothing more to it.--Termer 18:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- My dear Termer you can back to aspect "Work made for Hire" as long as you can or/and wish. But you are still wrong and/or misundersanding the points 4-5 of Implementation Act of 1993-Russian-copyright-law. Anyone, who is fluent in Russian can read points 4-5 of Implementation Act, Commentary for these points, Articles 4 (second paragraph), 14 and 27 of 1993-Law, Commentary for these articles, and also Articles 485 and 486 of Civil Code of RSFSR. You can read them too, there are enough ru-en translator.
- Briefly again.
- The time of protection is depended on data about author always. The copyright holder is unimpotant for time of protection.
- Usually author is natural person, but in some cases author is legal person, but it is not in our case. For example:
- The copyright holder of this photowork is TASS. The author is E.Khaldei. The time of protection is 74 year from E.Khaldei's death.
- VERSUS
- The copyright holder of "Небесный тихоход" (1945) is w:Lenfilm. Legally the author is w:Lenfilm too. The time of protection is 50 year from premiere (if we use 1993-law) and 70 year from premiere (if we use new 2008-law). Alex Spade 11:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Claiming "you're wrong" is not going to get you anywhere I'm afraid. I don't think I'd have anything to add to what I've said here regarding the rights and who is/was the author of the image in legal sense etc. This is what I'd say, feel free to go ahead and get all WWII images under PD-Russia deleted on Commons and once you're done with it, we can return to this discussion. Good luck!--Termer 18:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah. I can fill free, but not here - I'm not sysop here, but there are enough Wiki-Commons sysops, which are fluent Russian and can check my thesis. Moreover, some of them are also Ru-Wiki sysops, where PD-Russia was changed. You can see respective template w:ru:template:PD-Russia and compare with out-of-date Wiki-commons ones. Alex Spade 19:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, my Russian is not that good but even I can make it out that the only thing w:ru:template:PD-Russia says for sure is that the status of this template from Jan 2008 on is uncertain or unknown, if possible please use PD OLD or PD-Russia-2008. I can't see any of this "uncertain or unknown" as a reason to delete the image and in case there is a need to point it out once more. Since the author of the image was legally the Soviet state and the rights have expired, the image is in PD-Russia and in PD-US. In order to get this image deleted, it has to be proven by reliable sources that Russia has returned all Exclusive rights belonging to the Soviet state to the original "physical" authors retroactively, only that would take it out from PD-Russia.--Termer 03:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- You have compared useless in our discussion notice about 2008-changes. For our discussion point 5 of Ru-Wiki Template is impotant - it says what is really mean "Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities published before January 1st, 1954, are also public domain in Russia". Alex Spade 11:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, my Russian is not that good but even I can make it out that the only thing w:ru:template:PD-Russia says for sure is that the status of this template from Jan 2008 on is uncertain or unknown, if possible please use PD OLD or PD-Russia-2008. I can't see any of this "uncertain or unknown" as a reason to delete the image and in case there is a need to point it out once more. Since the author of the image was legally the Soviet state and the rights have expired, the image is in PD-Russia and in PD-US. In order to get this image deleted, it has to be proven by reliable sources that Russia has returned all Exclusive rights belonging to the Soviet state to the original "physical" authors retroactively, only that would take it out from PD-Russia.--Termer 03:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah. I can fill free, but not here - I'm not sysop here, but there are enough Wiki-Commons sysops, which are fluent Russian and can check my thesis. Moreover, some of them are also Ru-Wiki sysops, where PD-Russia was changed. You can see respective template w:ru:template:PD-Russia and compare with out-of-date Wiki-commons ones. Alex Spade 19:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep No violation here.--Miyokan 10:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Aspect of retroactivity
Comment I revoke clear regulations of Soviet copyright law from 1925 1925-USSR-copyright-law(legal valid , however not respected in fact since 1930 (the end of NEP an end of activity of any private editors and private business activity in Soviet Union), but in effect in 1945 in the whole area of SU.
Art. 12. Авторское право в части или в целом может быть отчуждено по издательскому договору или иным законным способом, при чем характер использования авторского права должен быть определен в точности договором. Договоры о переуступке авторского права должны быть, под страхом недействительности, заключаемы в письменной форме. "Copyright can be tranferred partly of fully by the way of agreement or another way according to the law, the form of transferring of copyright shall be decribed by agreement in detail. Agreements on tranferring copyright shall be made in the written form to be legally valid."
Art 9. Срок пользования авторским правом на фотографические произведения устанавливается для отдельных снимков в три года, для собрания снимков - в пять лет. Для сохранения за фотографом авторского права на фотографические зображения требуется означение на каждом экземпляре: 1) фирмы или имени, фамилии и места жительства фотографа или издателя фотографии и 2) года выпуска в свет фотографического произведения.1925-USSR-copyright-law ("Art.9 The term of using copyright for photographical works is established for single photos - three years , for collections of photos - five years. For securing copyright for the image by photographer clear copyright notice on every copy of photo , including 1) his name , legal address of photographer or editor and 2) year of publication of photo - is necessary" - it is clear regulation of Soviet copyright law of 1925 , legally valid in 1945 in Soviet Union.)
Are these conditions fullfilled in this situation?
First :is any published in 1945-1949 ( the term of securing copyright according to art 9. of Soviet copyright) copy of photo was remarked ( waterproofed or signed) such way : Yevgeny Khaldey 1945 (author), or TASS 1945? (as editor). I don't see it and it wasn't presented in fact.
Second:Is any written agreement (from 1945 or before) between author and editor according copyright exist? I don't know about. The is no proof to assupt TASS as copyowner or even copyholder. What in the subject of anonymous works. If they were not copyrighted from the beginning (in the way decribing in art 9 and 12 of Soviet copyright valid in 1945) there are copyfree.
Third: en:ITAR-TASS is a different legal entity from TASS. It is new entity created by a decree of President of Russian Federation in 1992 "on basis" of property of former TASS and "Novosti" remained at the territory of Russian Federation.
Finally - in lack of evidence of proper securing and transferring copyrights in 1945 - 1949 - TASS (1945-1949) seems to be only freeuser of all these images (not copyrighted in the proper way). Besides in 1945 there was no corporative copyright in SU and TASS was that time simply Soviet State intitution (without legal entity).The law of 1964 (Soviet Union Civil Code) is not in effect retroactivaly in this situation. Copyright not reserved in the the proper legal way haven't existed anyway. As I've noticed above there is no possibility to create material law in retroactive.
All the best. Andros64 14:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Just a quick comment: it is utterly futile to try to operate with the short copyright terms of the old Soviet laws. All these laws' copyright terms were completely superseded and invalidated in Russia by the 1993 copyright law of Russia. That law explicitly restored copyright in works, even if the old Soviet terms had already expired. The Russian Supreme Court said so in its plenum decision 15/2006, points 34 and 37. Lupo 09:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- Quick comment - There is a possibility to restore or renew copyright retroactivaly , there is no possibility to secure non-existing copyright ( not established in legal way in the time of publication) retroactivaly. You have to prove, that it was copyrighted from the beginning. Andros64 14:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, but that's exactly what the Russians did. See plenum decision 15/2006, point 37 (granting neighboring rights to old Soviet works, when Soviet law did not know such rights). See also Elst (full ref below), pp. 528-533, or also Savelyeva, I. V.: "The Russian Federation", pp. 25–60 in Stewart, S. M. (ed.): International Copyright and Neighbouring Rights, Butterworths, London, 1993. ISBN 0-406-03158-4. Lupo 16:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Quick comment - There is a possibility to restore or renew copyright retroactivaly , there is no possibility to secure non-existing copyright ( not established in legal way in the time of publication) retroactivaly. You have to prove, that it was copyrighted from the beginning. Andros64 14:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Just a quick comment: it is utterly futile to try to operate with the short copyright terms of the old Soviet laws. All these laws' copyright terms were completely superseded and invalidated in Russia by the 1993 copyright law of Russia. That law explicitly restored copyright in works, even if the old Soviet terms had already expired. The Russian Supreme Court said so in its plenum decision 15/2006, points 34 and 37. Lupo 09:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Dear Andros64, as I understand you decide to move from point "This image was publicated in some states, in some of them it is PD" to "This image is PD in Russia" and dispute cat of retroactivity of 1993-law.
- ITAR-TASS is legatee of TASS, but not of republic agencies. As I said - (for this comment I redifine my previus thesis). TASS has got own propetry and been doing own work, the republican agencies have got own propetry and been doing own work. They were changing them for republication (redistribution), for translarion and etc., but all of them have got independent propetry - been doing own work. But this question is unimpotant for time of protection, I don't see need to back to it. The author and contry(ies) of origin are impotant.
- You wrong. The 1926-law was enough respective in USSR after NEP. The many works were in PD according to them before 1993. It was very impotant espessially for time of protection for cinema films. But this your and my opinions are also unimpotant. The law was. Our appraisal about effectiveness is nothing.
- Article 9 of 1926-law and similar article 475 from 1964-law are unimpotant now. The 1993,2004,2008-laws made such or similar demands is null for all works - the time of creation/publication is unimpotant for this point in Russia now. Similar demand was in USA-law early, and it's still impotant for some years of creation/publication for USA-law, but not for RU-law.
- Article 12 is nothing for our case. It is still in RU-law in other form (formulation). As I said, the copyrightholder/owner or smb. else was unimpotant for time of protection in RU-law.
- Is this image in PD according to 1926-law? Yes, it was, if it had been publicated in time of action of law. It was in PD since Jan.1 1949 (1951 - if it was in colection)(PD-because-old) or may be early because of Article 9 (PD-because-uncopyrigted).
- Is this image in PD according to 1964-law? (a) It was, If it had been publicated before 1964, because 1964-law and 1974-changes weren't retroactive. (b) Or, it was because of demand of last paragraph of Article 475 of 1964-law (PD-because-uncopyrigted).
- Is this image in PD according to 1993-law? No, it is. The 1993-law (with 2004-chanes) is (or was for current) full national retroactive. What is does mean "full national"? National - because, the act of retroactivity doesn't take into account the most of works, which was publicated outside Russia/USSR before 1973 and 1995 year. For example, UA-law - is now full international - Ukraine excluded such exceptions. Full - because, the act of retroactivity takes into account both old (published before some point of time) PD-because-old works and PD-because-uncopyrigted works. The respective exception for PD-because-uncopyrigted works (the many of photoworks were in this group) was excluded from Russian-law from article 28 in 2004. For exmaple, similar exception from protection still in AZ-law in second paragraph of Article 27. Alex Spade 18:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: simultaneous publication
I've come to the conclusion that the whole idea of "simultaneous publication in all SSRs" was a
. Instead, a territorial approach to copyright needs to be taken. This means that for a Soviet work that was first published in the Ukrainian SSR, apply Ukrainian law; for a work first published in the Russian SFSR, apply Russian law. This is backed by:
- Newcity (Copyright Law in the Soviet Union, Praeger Publishers, New York 1978. ISBN 0-275-56450-9) writes (p. 49): "These Fundamentals of Civil Legislation [referring to the 1961 Fundamentals as amended in 1973—Lupo] [...] constitute detailed standards to which the civil codes of the 15 union republics must conform. Under the Soviet federal system, the central government of the USSR is empowered to adopt such legislative standards, but the final responsibility for actually adopting laws rests with the individual republics. [...] The RSFSR is the largest of the 15 union republics that make up the USSR and includes the two major centers of publishing in that country, Moscow and Leningrad. The overwhelming bulk of Soviet publishing is done in the RSFSR. Thus, in most cases, the copyright law of the RSFSR [i.e., the 1964 RSFSR Civil Code, as amended up to 1978 when Newcity wrote this—Lupo] will be the statute governing disputes concerning authors' rights. ..." Also, if a Moscow publisher distributed and sold a book also in the Ukrainian SSR, that wouldn't make it "simultaneously" published. The fact that I can buy books in, say, France that are printed and sold by a publisher in the U.S. doesn't make these books simultaneously published in France. But if a Ukrainian publisher printed and sold the book (under some license agreement with the Moscow publisher) within 30 days, then it would be simultaneously published.
- In Itar-Tass v. Russian Kurier, the U.S. court mostly considered the copyright law of the Russian SFSR, not the federal USSR "fundamentals". That also seems to support the territorial view. Same for Jove Films v. Berov.
- Janice T. Pilch also seems to operate under the territorial interpretation. She never mentions simultaneous publication, and the case examples she gives in her article series make only sense if one assumes strict territoriality of copyright. See her articles:
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- Understanding Copyright Law for Slavic, East European, and Eurasian Materials, SEEIR 4(1), pp. 75 – 101; 2003.
- Current Copyright Legislation of the CIS Nations and its Relevance for U.S. Library Collections: The Laws of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Moldova, SEEIR 5(1/2), pp. 81 – 122; 2004.
- Current Copyright Legislation of the CIS Nations and its Relevance for U.S. Library Collections: The Laws of Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia, SEEIR 6(1), pp. 101 - 141, 2005.
- SEEIR is the journal Slavic and East European Information Resources published by the Haworth Information Press; ISSN 1522-8886. Pilch is a librarian, not a lawyer, but it appears she got help from both Michael Newcity and Peter B. Maggs for these articles. Maggs and Newcity appear to be the leading U.S. authorities on issues of Soviet copyright law.
- Michiel Elst (Copyright, Freedom of Speech, and Cultural Policy in the Russian Federation, Martinus Nijhoff, Leiden/Boston, 2005; ISBN 9-004-14087-5; a comprehensive 700-page treatise; see in particular pp. 486ff) emphasizes the strict territoriality of copyright laws, and makes a number of references that lead me to believe that actually this "per-SSR" interpretation may be right. Also, the internal structure of the USSR and its legal system seem to support this view. Union-wide federal laws had to be implemented at the SSR level by individual laws in each SSR. All these SSRs had their own copyright laws! These republic laws could not contradict the federal law, but they could go beyond the federal law and they could and did differ between SSRs. The efforts of Russia after the demise of the USSR to coordinate the copyrights on Soviet works amongst the CIS nations (the Moscow agreement in 1993) further corroborate this strictly territorial view.
Lupo 09:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment All above there are private comments , not legal solutions . It would be necessary to analyze the subject on a basis of international copyright law.
Second: To Alex Spade - there are supplemental (not contradictionary) questions - the question of simultaneous publication the photo by all-union state agencies, the question of simultaneous publication at the whole area of SU , question or proper securing of copyright (in 1925 Soviet regulations) - and in the final result copyfree using , question of legal succesors (if any) of Soviet institutions. Anywhere - post-Soviet photos are not the subject of sole jurisdiction of Russian Federation, but all of the succesors.
Finally - it seems to be necessary to plain and detailed explanation in contra - taking into account all elements described above.
Best regards. Andros64 14:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Private comments maybe, but by well-known and established experts and two actual court cases. Lupo 16:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- As I said - the simultaneous publication is possible. It's possible that in some Post-Soviet states - this image is in PD. But this image is PD-because-uncopyrighted and this aspect is missing in Berne Convention in definition of state of origin. The respective article about time of protection at simultaneous publication says that it is equalized the time of protection (PD-because-old), but not equalized features of protection. Again for example, PD-NASA and PD-USGov is nothing for Russian-law, PD-RU-exempt for foreign signs is nothing for USA-law. Alex Spade 16:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Stop Wrecking!
Keep'Keep' -- this is an idiotic discussion. Wait until the USSR sues Jimbo before worrying about this. Meanwhile, stop burning and wrecking for the sake of that warm feeling in your cold heart. — Xiong熊talk* 12:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- The Commons is supposed to be a repository of free images, not a collection of "stuff we can get away with". Lupo 11:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep'Keep' - No copyright violation here, new law does not cover works that has been pd. It can be retroactive, but it can not make already a pd work a copyrighted work again. (:) I wouldn't care even if it did, it's Wikimedia's problem, I wanna see these pictures here and that's how I use my vote). --TimBits 18:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- "I wanna see this" is a rather nonsensical reason. And we don't vote here. Besides, yes, copyrights can be restored. Has happened multiple times in several places: in 1995 in the EU, in 1996 for foreign works in the U.S., and also in 1993 and on January 1, 2008 in Russia. And just to show that this isn't a modern phenomenon: it has also happened in 1923 in Switzerland. Lupo 11:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- It has never happened and besides I don't have to satisfy your need for sense, as you can see we are voting here. :)--TimBits 15:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep'Keep'. Originally copyrighted by TASS, Public domain --sk 02:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the Russian copyright law says otherwise. Lupo 11:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, Berne Convention ( Soviet Union have recognised it in 1974) and all its legal successors after 1991 ( 12 republics- including Russia) - too - as an international treaty is supreme over internal state regulations. Andros64 11:21, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- The point of this nomination is not whether the image was copyrighted in the U.S. The point is that the image is copyrighted in Russia. Commons requires an image to be PD in both the U.S. and in the source country. Besides, get your facts straight: the USSR never joined the Berne Convention. Russia did, in 1995. And so did the other successor states, after the demise of the Soviet Union. Lupo 11:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, Berne Convention ( Soviet Union have recognised it in 1974) and all its legal successors after 1991 ( 12 republics- including Russia) - too - as an international treaty is supreme over internal state regulations. Andros64 11:21, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the Russian copyright law says otherwise. Lupo 11:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
CommentThe country of publication is Soviet Union ( at all its territory, not sole Russia - half of the population of SU ). There was only all-Union copyright law, not specific regulations of the republics.( the was no specific regulations for Russian SSR, Ukrainian SSR, Georgian SSR and so on. The same way Serbia is not the only legal succesor of former Yugoslavia( it is also Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, FYROM. Of course - in Russia - according to its internal jurisdiction - terms and conditions of securing copyright may be shorter , then in Ukraine for example. But it does not deprive photo a status of PD abroad if it is acknowledged as PD in any other successing state - member of former Soviet Union. It is a matter of internal regulations in Russian Federation, but not abroad. In conclusion it is not binding for Commons. I repeat again - the state of publication is en:Soviet Union, not Russia ( nor Ukraine, nor Georgia, nor Kazakhstan, Armenia, Azerbejdzan , Turkmenistan or so on ) - all legal successors of SU. Andros64 11:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Dear Andros64. You still don't understand. Yes, the POV about simultaneous publication is possible. But, image must be free in USA and in country(ies) of origin - the Berne Convention equalize time of protection (it equalizes terms of PD-because-old), if work was publicated simultaneously in different states, but it doesn't equalize features of protection (it doesn't equalize terms of PD-because-fundamentally-uncopyrighted). Yes, it's possible that this image is PD in some post-Soviet states - it can be PD-because-fundamentally-uncopyrighted. But, in some post-Soviet states (for you position they are countries of origin) this work is copyrighted. So, demand "Free in USA and country(ies) of origin" is not completed. Alex Spade 12:30, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep'Keep' --84.135.64.183 21:31, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Keep --Testus 12:24, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Keep --Dezidor 22:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Keep Obviously it's in Public Domain. Elk Salmon 10:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Keep Yarikmsu 16:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Back of Aspect "Work made for Hire" 2
Comment Well , there are still no evidence presented that the image has gone under copyright retroactively in Russia since Jan. 2008, only claims that this might be the case. Therefore the discussion is useless until proven by a reliable source showing that the status of the image has changed somehow. The way deletion nominators have interpreted the Russian copyright law is not going to be good enough for a reason to delete the image I'm afraid.--Termer 21:58, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- Dear Termer. You fogot, I had already said to you, that 2008-changes is totally unimpotant in this case. This image is copyrighted according to both 1993-law and 2004-law. The first of them was retroactive. Alex Spade 10:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- I've never forgot that this is your opinion. In case your opinion was a fact, the image would have been deleted long time ago. The fact is, the image is in PD Russia as Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities published before January 1st, 1954 since it's work created during official duties, meaning military service. There is nothing more to it. --Termer 21:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- You are jumping from one aspect (2008) to other (work for hire). This is no good. You just still doesn't understand meaning of phrase "Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities". This phrase is saying about initial copyrights of legal entities - it appear only in three cases, which are described in begining of topic - this aspect was long discussed and cheked in Ru-Wiki, and ru:Template:PD-Russia was changes according it. The changes of 2008 year (in the aspect of retroacivity) are still being discussed and ru:Template:PD-Russia-2008 was created, but now it is still additional template, not replacement for old. As I said, you can check thesis about "Works belonging to..." in the commentary to Russian copyright law by Gavrilov E.P. (one of leading specialist in science of Russian copyright law)[32] in the end of commentary in point 11-16. Alex Spade 22:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- I do understand Works belonging to the former Soviet government.. just fine. It's no different than working for a Hollywood studio and "Works belonging to Hollywood studios". Unless you have a contract with them saying that you have certain rights to your work left, it's all theirs, including the authors rights etc. The only difference between Hollywood and former Soviet government is that all works belonging to former Soviet government published before 1954 are in PD-Russia. if anything has changed regarding this fact retroactively since Jan 2008 has to be proven yet. --Termer 22:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, you don't. You still are jumping, 2008 is nothing in this case. You still doesn't understand or even try to read commentaries, what is "Works belonging to..." and "Works for Hire" in Soviet and Russian law. The Gavrilov's commentaries (which is recomended to you) was published in 1996. Just open it, translate and read. I could cite necessary paragraphs in commentaries, but it would be a copyright violation, because such citation was too large. If you don't trust, you can consult with any Commons-Administrators which are fluent in Russian. Alex Spade 05:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thats fine in case 2008 is nothing in this case then the image continues to be in PD Russia like it has been since it was uploaded. --Termer 05:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, it wasn't. You are wrong. Open commentary and read them at last.
- You said "I think that...", I said "The an authoritative source say that...". The opinions of authoritative sources can be come up with each other. Our self opinions is lesser important.
- Your attempt to analize the Soviet/Russian law via your understanding of US-law is bad or even stupid idea. They are very different. It must be analized separately and in theis interactions, but it can be analized one via other. Alex Spade 07:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I think it's bad idea to delete an image that is free because it's in PD-Russia. Despite the fact that Russian nationalism has chosen to take pride in their Soviet past and this image might compromise it since the guy has 2 wrist watches on that might suggest he has been looting. Everybody has always known why there have been so many deletion attempts, but it seems you are not aware of it that it has never worked. So keep trying to delete the image in case you think the guy on the image is a looter. He might have just used 2 watches, one for local another for seeing what time it is at home. I'm out of here.--Termer 21:01, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Your had got two authoritative commentaries of our case (Gavrilov's + Supreme Court's), which said - this image isn't PD-Russia. If you find other authoritative opinion - present it - and let's compare them. Alex Spade 17:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I think it's bad idea to delete an image that is free because it's in PD-Russia. Despite the fact that Russian nationalism has chosen to take pride in their Soviet past and this image might compromise it since the guy has 2 wrist watches on that might suggest he has been looting. Everybody has always known why there have been so many deletion attempts, but it seems you are not aware of it that it has never worked. So keep trying to delete the image in case you think the guy on the image is a looter. He might have just used 2 watches, one for local another for seeing what time it is at home. I'm out of here.--Termer 21:01, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thats fine in case 2008 is nothing in this case then the image continues to be in PD Russia like it has been since it was uploaded. --Termer 05:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, you don't. You still are jumping, 2008 is nothing in this case. You still doesn't understand or even try to read commentaries, what is "Works belonging to..." and "Works for Hire" in Soviet and Russian law. The Gavrilov's commentaries (which is recomended to you) was published in 1996. Just open it, translate and read. I could cite necessary paragraphs in commentaries, but it would be a copyright violation, because such citation was too large. If you don't trust, you can consult with any Commons-Administrators which are fluent in Russian. Alex Spade 05:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- I do understand Works belonging to the former Soviet government.. just fine. It's no different than working for a Hollywood studio and "Works belonging to Hollywood studios". Unless you have a contract with them saying that you have certain rights to your work left, it's all theirs, including the authors rights etc. The only difference between Hollywood and former Soviet government is that all works belonging to former Soviet government published before 1954 are in PD-Russia. if anything has changed regarding this fact retroactively since Jan 2008 has to be proven yet. --Termer 22:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- You are jumping from one aspect (2008) to other (work for hire). This is no good. You just still doesn't understand meaning of phrase "Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities". This phrase is saying about initial copyrights of legal entities - it appear only in three cases, which are described in begining of topic - this aspect was long discussed and cheked in Ru-Wiki, and ru:Template:PD-Russia was changes according it. The changes of 2008 year (in the aspect of retroacivity) are still being discussed and ru:Template:PD-Russia-2008 was created, but now it is still additional template, not replacement for old. As I said, you can check thesis about "Works belonging to..." in the commentary to Russian copyright law by Gavrilov E.P. (one of leading specialist in science of Russian copyright law)[32] in the end of commentary in point 11-16. Alex Spade 22:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- I've never forgot that this is your opinion. In case your opinion was a fact, the image would have been deleted long time ago. The fact is, the image is in PD Russia as Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities published before January 1st, 1954 since it's work created during official duties, meaning military service. There is nothing more to it. --Termer 21:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
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Keep amen we cannot erase history
Keep You think the Russians mind this picture standing here, as a triumph to the magnificent victory? Copyright = right to copy. We cannot erase history.
Also it says:
"This file is in the public domain in Russia. It was published before January 1, 1954, and the creator (if known) died before that date (For veterans of the Great Patriotic War, the critical date is January 1, 1950). Works belonging to the former Soviet government or other Soviet legal entities published before January 1st, 1954, are also public domain in Russia." On the copyright, so... Stop arguing.
- In the Soviet Union has an "copyright" never given. The Owner of the Rights of Chaldey is a woman, who live in Germany. She have a sentence, ho give her grandpa all rights of the fotos from 1945. --87.185.233.249 20:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
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"Касаемо двух часов на руке: Да мародёр он, ежу понятно! Да только какой солдат не берёт трофеи! И как бы то ни было, это всё равно останется историей, без монтажа и вырезок, это будет правдой, из песни слов не выкинешь! Я думаю, надо оставить! Абдулла"
Ты ёж что ли, чурка? За обвинение ответить сможешь? Yarikmsu 16:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
The wrist watch might be compass, as the person in hand is apparently an officer, despite the soldier rank the flag raiser could not posess this item. Dmitry.
That was a compass. --Pianist 01:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Deleted. Ok, a lot of people will not like this decision (and me), but after reading this whole discussion several times (including serveral of the linked documents) and learning more about Russian law than I ever wanted, I have to say that the arguments from Alex Spade and Lupo are much more plausible than those of Termer and Andros64. There is serious doubt that this image is PD-Russia and serious doubt is enough not to keep it on Commons. You still can upload it on your local Wikipedias as 'fair use' (if 'fair use' is allowed there), but here only images without doubt are acceptable. If you don't have a local copy and want it for your local WP as 'fair use' image, send me a mail. Don't forget to name the WP, for which it is destined. Cecil 20:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Sea otters holding hands.jpg
This picture was taken (not by me) at the Vancouver Aquarium. I went to the Vancouver Aquarium recently and I noticed that my receipt for admission says at the bottom, "Photographers: You are welcome to shoot still photos, video or film for personal use. Any reuse or reproduction for commercial purpose without written consent of the Vancouver Aquarium is strictly prohibited." I can't find any details on this policy on their website and I don't know if the policy was in effect when the photo was taken. --Clayoquot 07:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Policy may not have been in effect, and it doesn't affect the copyright status of the image one iota. -N 23:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Speedy keep. After discussing with administrators from en-wiki, it appears unlikely that the institution can claim copyright to photographs of animals. Also this institution is in the open air, so in theory you don't even have to enter the premises to take pictures. Can we speedily close this please? Clayoquot 03:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Keep. Per above. I find this reason problematic, but I will keep back from ranting about how silly the general policy is and say that Wikipedia is not usually the "commerical purpose" they have in mind when crafting these sorts of things. I will point out this glaring problem with their policy: if you were to take a high quality photo and post it on your personal webpage to share with friends, one of them could conceivably take the photo and use it for a commercial purpose without you realizing --looking past the copyright issue, that is just one example of how problematic policies like this are. --Bobak 17:12, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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Delete First of all, the commons is not a place for inclusion of images for Wikipedia. It is for free images that can be reused in free projects and also in unfree, commercial projects, so if their policy is reasonable, it is applicable here, not inapplicable because this is for Wikipedia. Secondly, the unenforcability of digital images on the web is no excuse for copyright violation. Also, I highly doubt that just because an aquarium lacks a roof makes it a public place. While I would love to see this lovely image kept, it seems that the reasons given here are not rigorous enough to defy a written non-commercial policy of the property-holder. If the policy was in effect, the photographer agreed that his photos would be non-comm only when entering. -Seidenstud 04:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Wait, are you saying a sign saying "do not take pictures of my otters" would cause you to not upload a picture to Commons? -N 05:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep The appearance of animals is not a subject of copyrigths. As far as I know all copyrights belong only to the nature... Elektron 08:26, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Their policy doesn't apply because we are not using the image for "commercial purpose."Chris! my talk 03:29, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- The image does not have any components other than those naturally occurring in nature. Regardless of location, one can not place copyrights on purely natural images. The zoo does not "own" the animals.
Kept. The Vancouver Aquarium policy has to do with property rights, not copyright. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 11:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:20051004MaisonDuPeuple.jpg
The Architect Victor Horta died 1947. Lupo 13:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep The photograph was taken 108 years ago (1899) by an anonymous photographer. This image qualifies as public domain even if it has the incorrect licensing tag - perhaps {{Anonymous-EU}} or {{PD-old}} would be better suited? Not sure what Victor Horta's year of death has to do with it. 87.112.67.220 11:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep PD because of age... Elektron 10:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
deleted, Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#Belgium--Polarlys 20:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Pirogue_01.JPG
wrong picture Airongreg 17:07, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedily deleted per uploader request. Next time think about using {{speedy|the reason}} :) -- AlNo (discuter/talk/hablar/falar) 13:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Raapzaad-bloem-kl.JPG
The same image available here:Image:Raapzaad-bloem-hr.jpg Karelj 17:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Duplicate. Use {{duplicate|name of other file}} in future. Deadstar (msg) 16:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Raapzaad-bloem-kl.JPG
The same image available here:Image:Raapzaad-bloem-hr.jpg Karelj 17:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Duplicate. Use {{duplicate|name of other file}} in future. Deadstar (msg) 16:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Raapzaad-blad-kl.JPG
There is the same image here:Image:Raapzaad-blad-hr.jpg Karelj 17:58, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- Please use {{duplicate|new name}} for the proper process. No need to nominate for deletion. Cheers! Siebrand 19:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Duplicate of Image:Raapzaad-blad-hr.jpg. Deadstar (msg) 16:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Raapzaad-overz-kl.JPG
The same image available here:Image:Raapzaad-overz-hr.jpg Karelj 18:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- Please use {{duplicate|new name}} for the proper process. No need to nominate for deletion. Cheers! Siebrand 19:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- I have done this several times some days ago, but I was noticed, that this is possible only for totaly identiccal files (for instance with the some size). So how it is really?? Of course, I would prefer the message Duplicate, which is much faster and simpler to use. --Karelj 19:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Duplicate file. Deadstar (msg) 16:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Category:Horphanages
Not an English word, nothing in the category --Jmabel | talk 18:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Simonxag 20:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Orphanages? Valentinian T / C 20:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete empt cat --[[Anonymous Dissident]] 08:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted; empty category with no apparent use, most likely a typo or mistake. -- Infrogmation 17:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Abortion-pre1973.png
superseded by Image:Map of US abortion laws pre-1973.svg 128.118.226.88 08:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Commons:Deletion requests/Superseded Multichill 21:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Kept No deletion of superseded files. --GeorgHH • talk 16:19, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Annihilation.svg
mistake during upload - svg image broken and not wanted Damato 10:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Brocken/incomplete svg-file. A png version is available: Image:Annihilation.png. --GeorgHH • talk 16:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:BrassicaCampestris.jpg
There is the same image here:Image:BrassicaCampestris2.jpg Karelj 18:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept The images are similar, but not identical (different angle of view). --GeorgHH • talk 16:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Brassica_napus_nanohana.jpg
Low quality photo (unsharp), lot of similar pictures available, e.g.:Image:Raps Bluetenstand.jpg Karelj 18:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept Low quality is no valid reason for deletion request. --GeorgHH • talk 16:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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Low quality (unsharp), lot of similar images available e.g.:Image:Brassica napus LC0027.jpg Karelj 18:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept Low quality is no valid reason. --GeorgHH • talk 16:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Robot_champion.png
Copyright Violation 百楽兎 02:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete copyvio. -- This user loves Krittaya. 12:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete It is Marvin from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Wind 10:41, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
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Please, replace it by any other robot icon after deletion, e.g. Image:Robot icon.svg --ajvol 12:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted and replaced. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 11:19, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:OpCondorParticipantsMap.png
this picture is false, coloring the USA in red as an active participant of the Condor operations, probably for pov-pushing purposes --Apollon 18:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- details added as asked : beside the english article, you may refer to the historian John Dinges' work [33], he criticizes the US for doing nothing, not for participating in Condor : "The State Department began, then cut short an effort to warn the Condor countries that the U.S. was aware of their plans. The US officials debated taking measures to stop the assassinations, but rescinded the instructions." I know of no historian or credible source accusing explicitly the USA participation in the plan. At best, USA first didn't know then didn't act, at worst it was complacency. The alleged participation is never sourced correctly to specialists. Apollon 16:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'd like to add that the inclusion of the USA isn't the only flaw of the map. It includes Venezuela and Colombia whereas we don't have proof of it. On the other hand Ecuador isn't colored although we know it was involved. Apollon 13:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep US leadership & control was an open secret, even at the time. What next, the bay of Pigs without US involvement? Russian assistance to the Afghan government? --Simonxag 20:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep What is this? Censorship? Commons can't establish what is and what isn't the "official" truth. The image is not false, it has an author who signed it, and it ilustrate a point of view (see Operación Condor; Guerra sucia en Argentina, etc.). Of course anybody can make other images supporting other points of view (at least in free countries). I'm very woried about this kind of action against freedom of expression in Commons. I don`t know who propossed the censorship, but I think the infraction is so serious that he must be excluded from Commons. If not, what would be next? --Roblespepe 00:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- I proposed it. US red color implies it participated actively in the operation and that is false. Please report to the articles in English and other languages. Apollon 14:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
(suppress) I'm the requerant. Apollon 14:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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- User:Apollon must be excluded from Commons because of his intention of installing censorship in Commons, against Commons's rules. --Roblespepe 18:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep I agree. 71.131.207.116 02:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- @Roblespepe, calm down and stop crying wolf. Questioning the correctness of a claim has nothing to do with censorship. The statement in the description of that image and the (actually un-explained) colors are a claim, and on the image description page there is no reference for that claim. Also, the Source information is totally worthless because it is a self-reference. Provide a reliable reference (according to Wikipedia standards [34],[35],[36]) and the deletion request will become invalid. -- Túrelio 17:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, I wasn't going to get involved. I just wanted to point out this isn't Wikipedia. It might be wrong for them to use this map, but we are simply hosting it and not presenting it as fact. Anyway, Wikipedia is not about "truth" but about verifiability. Rocket000 18:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Verifiability, just what I wrote. But the image description page currently offers nothing to verify the claim of the image. Also, an explaination of the meaning of the colors should be added. -- Túrelio 19:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, I know you linked w:WP:V, I just wrote the word out for others. Please ignore that. My main point was that this isn't Wikipedia. We don't have a verifiability policy. I think it's a good idea is to think of every image as a piece of artwork. Facts, errors, POVs, whatever. It doesn't matter. It's the same thing to us. We just host these images. What people do with these files is up to them. Rocket000 20:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- That sounds a little bit funny to me. We at Commons torment every uploader down to the last detail for proof of his claims about copyright and who made that image and so on, and you say that, because we have no written policy about that, the contents doesn’t matter. If you stand by that, this discussion should go to the Village pump because IMHO it is a question of principle. The claim of this image, as Apollon wrote above, is that the USA was an active participant of the Condor operations. That is a potentially defamatory claim, if it is not true or at least well referenced. You probably know in which country the Commons servers are located… Just as a disclaimer: I am neither from the USA nor do I have much knowledge or interest in this topic.-- Túrelio 21:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Having little knowledge of the subject makes your position better. There's less chance of POV getting in the way. I do know what country the Commons servers are located in, that country also has free speech. Anyway, this seems less of a "truth" issue and more of POV issue. A falsely colored map (according to some) isn't what I would call defamation. As for Wikipedia check out this link (not really related to this image, but nonetheless interesting). Rocket000 22:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- That sounds a little bit funny to me. We at Commons torment every uploader down to the last detail for proof of his claims about copyright and who made that image and so on, and you say that, because we have no written policy about that, the contents doesn’t matter. If you stand by that, this discussion should go to the Village pump because IMHO it is a question of principle. The claim of this image, as Apollon wrote above, is that the USA was an active participant of the Condor operations. That is a potentially defamatory claim, if it is not true or at least well referenced. You probably know in which country the Commons servers are located… Just as a disclaimer: I am neither from the USA nor do I have much knowledge or interest in this topic.-- Túrelio 21:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, I know you linked w:WP:V, I just wrote the word out for others. Please ignore that. My main point was that this isn't Wikipedia. We don't have a verifiability policy. I think it's a good idea is to think of every image as a piece of artwork. Facts, errors, POVs, whatever. It doesn't matter. It's the same thing to us. We just host these images. What people do with these files is up to them. Rocket000 20:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Verifiability, just what I wrote. But the image description page currently offers nothing to verify the claim of the image. Also, an explaination of the meaning of the colors should be added. -- Túrelio 19:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, I wasn't going to get involved. I just wanted to point out this isn't Wikipedia. It might be wrong for them to use this map, but we are simply hosting it and not presenting it as fact. Anyway, Wikipedia is not about "truth" but about verifiability. Rocket000 18:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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- User:Apollon must be excluded from Commons because of his intention of installing censorship in Commons, against Commons's rules. --Roblespepe 18:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep this image is used in 7 wikimedia project, and deleting it will be counterproductive. Oren neu dag 12:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Even if this image is used only in the talk page of the English article, that is quite sufficient reason to keep it. Deleting it would leave a hole in that discussion. Whether it can ever be used in the main article is a different matter and subject to having verifiable sources. I would have no problem with the image description having a note to warn that the inclusion of the US as a major participant is disputed, so that people do not assume that this represents some verified 'truth'. Until a verifiable source is found, it would make sense to edit the image to change the colour of the US, as suggested by others, then the article can refer to the partial or disputed involvement of this region - but if this action is not supported by the uploader (negociate!), then the revised version may have to be uploaded as a seperate image. --Tony Wills 19:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Not just that, but changing an image like seems controversial. If there's even a slight chance a change will be contested, I suggest uploading under a new name and avoid any conflict. Rocket000 21:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- (re previous discussion: from a legal point of view is there such a thing as 'defaming' a country, should the 'axis of evil' take a court case :-) I agree people shouldn't start edit wars over the content of the image, but before assuming entrenched attitudes and pushing people to extremes (by having to diametrically opposed versions), how about a little consideration of what would actually satisfy both points of view. To start with there seems to be common ground on which countries were affected by this, and agreement that the USA was involved to some extent (to what extent needs references, even if it is just reports of people going on record making the accusations). So you can mark the map with countries that participated in actions against their own people, and in a different colour or shading those who were peripheral to it (supporting, organising, funding or whatever extent can be shown), but not actually subject to this operation. Everything doesn't have to be black and white (or red and white as in this case :-) --Tony Wills 08:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
The discussion about different points of view in politics is not for Commons, but for each article of the different Wikipedias. Commons only discuss copyright issues. Is not Commons the place to discuss if Jesus had blue eyes or long hair, or if Castro, Nixon or Peron were dictators, or if the Vinland map is false, or how many people died at the Holocaust, or if Darwin was crazy. This is only a storage of free images. Each one can use each image as they want. Of course in politics/religion/science are different points of view, and each one will present different images ilustrating their different points of view. All theses images, will be storaged are Commons, if they aren't limited by copyright rules. So please, end this crazy claim: censorship has no ending. (By the way, ¿what was the real face os Jesus? ¿Are we going to delete all the Jesus' images with no proofs about his real face?) --Roblespepe 18:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
KeepCorrect rather than complain (that is, if the image actually is giving false or misleading info). Popo le Chien 16:35, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Kept - nothing against policy. --Tom (talk - email) 23:43, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Gagra_massacre5467.jpg
license is noncompliant with Commons:Licensing – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 12:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
The same for
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- Image:Georefugees98746.jpg
- Image:Sukhumimassacre58034.jpg
- Image:Sukhumimassacre435234.jpg
- Image:0000290581-015.jpg
--GeorgHH • talk 18:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted. Licence was for Wikipedia only, and no-one seems to be bothered to go back to copyright holder. MichaelMaggs
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[edit] Image:Simple-english-wikipedia-esperanza-members-line-graph.PNG
Unlinked, un-updated, appears to be a visual aid from a forum discussion. ~ Riana ⁂ 09:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC) (Note: procedural nomination from me, Techpete did not complete the deletion form.)
Deleted. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 13:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Images from www.botanic.jp
See full list of affected images: here
OTRS ticket (link - OTRS account required) is not a release. The OTRSer fired back a request for more information, which was not received. Nonetheless the uploader has used the OTRS template to confirm the images. There is no permission for these images, and they should be deleted.--Nilfanion 23:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Please enlighten the rest of us who don't have OTRS access. What did the copyright holder send in and what was the response? Just because the "OTRSer" as you call him wasn't satisfied doesn't mean the copyright holder didn't in fact intend to allow the images to be used. -N 03:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete The copyright owner wrote "I had a clear understanding of your purpose. Regarding your offer, please feel free to use them," which is not a clear release under GFDL or CC-BY. There was no indication of the original email. I wrote the sender back to ask for more specific language. We have not received it. Cary Bass demandez 04:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment I must have missed, or not received, the email where I was supposed to clarify the permission. Could you please give me time to contact Mrs. Shu Suehiro for a full permission statement? epibase 16:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment I've received a more proper permission statement from Mrs. Shu Suehiro, which are forwarded to Wikipedia. epibase 06:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. per Cary. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Files by User:Patrick Rogel
The author requires notification by using his pictures/drawings, see http://www.astronautix.com/articles/conssite.htm Also, "these may be used 'as is'" what means, in my eyes, derivatives aren't allowed.
Files:
- Image:L3mcutwy.jpg
- Image:Zlklek2.jpg
- Image:Lkprof.gif
- Image:Lokcut.jpg
- Image:Zaplep68.jpg
- Image:Zlassbas.jpg
- Image:Zhorbasf.jpg
- Image:LK-700.jpg
- Image:UR-700.jpg
- Image:Lokom1.jpg
- Image:Zvulkanb.jpg
- Image:LOK Block I side.jpg
- Image:LOK Power Module.jpg
- Image:UR-700 (2).jpg
--GeorgHH • talk 13:42, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
--Patrick RogelAuthor Mark Wade has been notified of the use of his images and/or drawings by mail on 25 November 2007 and has replied the same day that "Permission is definitely not given" for use of high-resolution stills but has not refused low-resolution ones, such as those listed above, which are used 'as is' because his "Conditions of Use for Material from this Site" (http://www.astronautix.com/articles/conssite.htm) stated that "These may be used 'as is' in Print, CD-ROM's, or other web sites provided: Picture credit is given with © Mark Wade noted. Mark Wade is notified of their use. A link to astronautix.com (http://www.astronautix.com/) is given. No further specific agreement is required provided these conditions are met." ~~
- Patrick, could you possibly find the time to forward your correspondence with Mr Wade to permissions@wikimedia.org, just so that we have this on file? Thanks, ~ Riana ⁂ 10:22, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Even if they are free - the current copyright tag doesn't fill the conditions
- Picture credit is given with © Mark Wade noted.
- Mark Wade is notified of their use
- A link to astronautix.com (http://www.astronautix.com/) is given.
- The "As is" part, makes me wonder if the author haven't mean "no derivative works" - which is deffinatly not legal in commons.
- Yuval Y § Chat § 23:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Even if they are free - the current copyright tag doesn't fill the conditions
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[edit] Image:Congoid2.GIF
Published in the US, American law applies. Botev 05:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
See Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Congoid.GIF -mattbuck (Talk) 15:40, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Congoid.GIF
Published in the US, American law applies. Botev 05:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC) Not necessarily first, and isn't that the criterion for US law to apply?
Doesn't the copyright law in the country a picture was created (taken) in apply? For example the Syrian tag states: "It is a photographic work and ten years have elapsed since the end of the year in which it was created. " and nothing about publication. FunkMonk 07:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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- You can apply the Syrian copyright law only to pictures that are - for some reason - under the Syrian jurisdiction (for example if they were created by a Syrian citizen or a legal entity registered in Syria and/or if they were first published in Syria). The place, where the pictures were created is not a reason enough, because if you go to Syria, take a picture there, bring it back home and publish it in your home country, it is the copyright law of your home country that applies, not the Syrian one. If you were right about what you are saying we could retag all the pictures that are in the category Libya and were taken 5 years ago to {{PD-Libya}}. But we can't do this as for the majority of those pictures there is no reason to assume that they are under Libyan jurisdiction. --Botev 14:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- But theoretically, Syrian law would apply anyway, wouldn't it, don't we just ignore it because western laws might stress the importance of the country of publication rather than the country of creation? Doesn't Commons go by the copyright status of the country of origin, and therefore in specirfic cases, country of creation is more important than publication?
Notice that the Libyan tag says publication rather than creation, as on the Syrian one. FunkMonk 15:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Yes, and so does the PD-Sudan now, because I've just corrected the wording on all the Arab tags. Originally, they all said "creation" which led to the IMHO wrong assumption that the images you uploaded are PD. --Botev 18:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- The Berne Convention uses the country of first publication as the country of origin, except for unpublished works, in which case the country of origin is defined by the nationality of the author, except for movies (habitual residence of author) and buildings and presumably also sculptures and statues (place where the work stands). See §5(4) of the Berne Convention. If I were to take a picture in Syria, it might be covered by Syrian copyright in Syria (because it was created there). Internationally, its copyright would be determined by the Berne definition of country of origin. (Why are we even talking about Syria? The tag on the image is {{PD-Sudan}}...) Lupo 16:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Exactly! And I believe that there must be some international standards that we observe here. Otherwise someone might claim that we can use virtually ANY work on Commons, because there are several countries with no copyright protection at all (I think Afghanistan is an example), which means that no work (whether created there or not) enjoys protection there. So the fact that a work is free according to the law of some country is not a reason enough to use it here - there must be a way of telling when we can apply the law of a specific country and when we cannot. And the Berne Convention gives us means to answer this question. --Botev 18:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not trying to be annoying, just asking, because the tags don't really explain any of that, and I'm not exactly an expert on copyright. I asked about the Syria tag because of the wording on that one. FunkMonk 18:42, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Unfortunatelly the wordings on our copyright tags are not always accurate. Neither am I an expert but it was just the common sense that told me one cannot simply take a part of an American book from 1960s and publish it here only because of its subject. :) --Botev 19:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
But there's another thing, Coon used old stock photos in many of his works, some of which are over a hundred years old today and had been published in for example German books many times before, so whether this particular image has been published before, or when it was taken, can maybe only be clarified if we look at the book itself. FunkMonk 20:09, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Of course, but then it requires further details that you have not provided. If you have knowledge of this photo having been published earlier, simply state it and then it will be a different story. But if you don't I am afraid it has to be deleted. --Botev 06:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, the reason I uploaded it in the first place was that I apparently had misinterpreted the copyright tag, so I didn't think of providing any publication info other than it having been included in the Coon book. I don't have access to this book, don't live in America, so there's not much I can do. If anyone has the book, it would be nice if they could check the source of the image. FunkMonk 07:34, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Original source not established to allow for PD, closing as delete. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:42, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Como-mani.jpg
This is patently a very recent sculpture, and there is no FOP in Italy. --User:G.dallorto 02:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC) --User:G.dallorto 02:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Please be more specific. -N 03:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)- The uploader should demonstrate that the author of this work of art (who is not named anywhere in the caption) has been dead for at least 70 years, since in Italy Freedom of panorama does not apply. From the style of the sculpture, it cannot be 70 years old itself, so it is very unlikely that its author has been dead for 70 years. Was I specific enough? --User:G.dallorto 17:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep It dependes where the photo was first published. I don't think that Flickr is an Italian site and its servers are in Italy...Elektron 10:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Wrong. The law of the country where the statue stands applies, not the law where the server stands. Please read carefully the page Freedom of Panorama. Furthermore, the United States, where both Flickr's and Wikimedia's servers are located, do NOT admit "Freedom of panorama" for statues: just for buildings. Furhermore, what is OK for the terms of Flickr is not necessary OK with the terms of Commons. Please let's use our own criteria, OK? Flickr will respond for what THEY do, not for what we do. Therefore, under any points of view, this image may not stay here. --User:G.dallorto 15:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Maybe we misundestood... I mean that if I had from country whe is "freedom from panorama" and I had taken a photo in country where the law is different I sill have a rigth to publish it in MY OWN country. I don't know what is the country the author of the foto comes from. I can easilly imagine that it is not Italy but other country where is a real freedom :) Regards Elektron 07:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
deleted, no FOP in Italy. --Polarlys 09:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:MacNachtan-MacNachten (R. R. McIan).jpg
Redundant. I uploaded a better version of this file here: Image:Mac Nactan.jpg --Celtus 05:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. MichaelMaggs 22:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:MacNicol (R. R. McIan).png
Redundant. I've uploaded a better quality image here: Image:Mac Nicol (R. R. McIan).jpg --Celtus 05:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. MichaelMaggs 22:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:MacIvor (R. R. McIan).png
Redundant. I've uploaded a higher quality image here: Image:Mac Ivor (R. R. McIan).jpg. --Celtus 05:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. MichaelMaggs 22:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:MacPhee (R. R. McIan).png
Redundant. Higher quality image uploaded here: Image:Mac Phee (R. R. McIan).jpg. --Celtus 08:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:MacLennan (R. R. McIan).png
Redundant. Higher quality image here: Image:Mac Lennan (R. R. McIan).jpg. --Celtus 08:34, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Lisa_Bonet_Lookalike_Portrait.jpg
This isn't Lisa Bonet, but someone who looks like her - basically we're possibly impinging on someone's right to privacy by using this picture for no reason ~ Riana ⁂ 10:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Per this statement, the Flickr user doesn't seem to own the rights to this whole series of images. I wonder what that family would say if they knew that their private family photos were published on the Internet by a random stranger. Lupo 12:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Photo of unidentified person who sort of looks like someone else is probably out of scope anyway; given the dubious licensing status this should not be on Commons. -- Infrogmation 14:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete copyvio --Simonxag 22:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Looks inappropriate to me per reasons above. Also, subject may be underage. Durova 03:32, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Lupo 07:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Merchandisig-mulder.jpg
The works are derivative images. Per my comments on Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Merchandising-x-files.jpg The artwork in the image and the model copyright belong with Fox or whoever it is who owns the X-Files rights these days. There can be no realistic circumstances under which the image could be freely licensed that I can see. --Nick 10:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
This discussion also includes the following images.
- Image:Merchandising-Mulder-and-alien.jpg
- Image:Merchandising-Scully.jpg
- Image:Merchandising-x-files2.jpg
The following images have been nominated for speedy deletion since November 30, 2007
- Image:BarbieAndKen The X-Files And JamesBond.jpg
- Image:Merchandising-Mulder.jpg
- Image:Merchandising-Scully2.jpg
- Image:Merchandising-mulder-scully-alien.jpg
The category will also require deletion.
This follows on from the deletion discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Merchandising-x-files.jpg.
Delete copyvio --Simonxag 22:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete copyvio Deadstar (msg) 12:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted RedCoat 10:51, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Anilingus.jpg
sexual explicit content 134.96.216.150 11:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep - Image is legitmately used on 14 different projects. If you are concerned over it's use on any single project, you should contact an administrator on that project and have the image added to the MediaWiki:Bad image list on that project, just as it is on the English Wikipedia - w:MediaWiki:Bad_image_list. Nick 12:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:UnitedweRAPE.gif
Grossly offensive 66.243.196.131 12:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment So what? Does the image has some valid (potential) use on Wikimedia projects? For example, this image is obviously racist, but we want to keep it for its encyclopedic value. (See Category:Caricatures, Category:Racism for other examples.) Or, were the Muhammad cartoons free work, I cannot imagine we would reject their hosting on Commons because they are “grossly offensive”. I am not able to assess the (encyclopedic) importance and relevance of this image, but the deletion should depend on that, not just because it is “offensive” to someone. --Mormegil 13:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep - Commons is not censored... // Liftarn
Keep per above. -- Infrogmation 17:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep see others. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep we have many satirical cartoons. The only things that make this image offensive are the acts it satirises. --Simonxag 22:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment See also Commons:Deletion requests/Inappropriate cartoons --Mormegil 12:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep per the comments here and the similar debate at Commons:Deletion requests/Inappropriate cartoons. Nick 18:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Stephane-cherki.jpg
The website of the pictured person says there must be a written authorization. Jean-no 13:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
The image is a small version of the front image of the website http://www.stephane-cherki.com/
On this website, it is clearly forbidden to re-use the medias without a formal authorisation :
Tous les éléments constituant ce site (textes, images, logos, marques, vidéos, photographies, musiques, etc...) sont la propriété de M Cherki ou ont fait l'objet d'une autorisation d'utilisation.
Toute utilisation sous forme de reproduction, modification, chargement informatique, dénaturation, transmission ou distribution partielle ou intégrale d'un document ou d'une information figurant sur le site est soumise à l'autorisation écrite et préalable de M Cherki à l'exception d'une copie à usage privé et non-commercial et sous réserve du respect des droits de propriété intellectuelle et de tout autre droit de propriété dont il est fait mention.
meaning that a written authorization has to be given before any use. This image is not free anyways. My english is really lame sorry. Jean-no 13:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deleted, copyright viol with false source and license information. -- Infrogmation 17:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:ArcticMonkeys.jpg
Most likely a non-free picture. Seems to be a simple copy/paste from [2]. --hst 15:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Image deleted prior to discussion being closed. Nick 18:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:General_Georgi_Koskov_by_Jeroen_Krabbe.jpg
Mistake. This was intended for the English Wikipedia. Please delete immediately. Requested by the uploader. WTCA 15:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deleted, mistaken upload. -- Infrogmation 17:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Gallery_Jerzy_Strzelecki_CASTLES_in_POLAND
Seems to be a user gallery, but in the wrong namespace.Code·is·poetry 16:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
How correct it! please, help me. The are practically all castles in Poland --Jerzystrzelecki 17:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- If it is intended to be only your own images of the castles, it should be in your user space, at a title like "User:Jerzystrzelecki/Castles in Poland". If you want it to be a gallery of castles in Poland that any user can add their images to, it should be at a title like "Castles in Poland". I will move it for you if you ask, tell me what title. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 18:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
New adress is: User:Jerzy_Strzelecki/Castles_in_Poland. Old page could you now delete, please --Jerzystrzelecki 19:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted -- Infrogmation 14:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Himmler_ziereis_kaltenbrunner_1941B.jpg
USHMM images are not free 82.228.89.180 18:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete no need to rehash the earlier discussion at Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Himmler_ziereis_kaltenbrunner_1941.jpg. This image is not free. -N 19:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deleted per previous deletion in October (even though uploader User:Machocarioca claimed this 1941 photo of Himmler was "PD-self" (!), contradicted by listing source as USHMM) -- Infrogmation 14:47, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Arielsharonsecretlove.gif
Commons is for educationnal content, not for polemical & quite shoking political caricatures published by a small website. (If it were famous for some reason, e.g. the Mahomet caricatures publiqhed some months ago by a Danish newspaper, it could imho be on Commons, but this image shows nothing but a will to make propaganda on Commons.) -- Benjism89 19:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep It is obvious this is just one artist's opinion. We host quite a few other illustrations by him (at Carlos Latuff). There is no reason to censor just one of them based on censorship reasons. -N 19:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep - not a valid reason for deletion. // Liftarn
Keep - satire by association aimed at Adolf Hitler:-) Useful image. --Simonxag 22:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Close per consensus reached at Commons:Deletion requests/Inappropriate cartoons Nick 22:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Cheministro.png
copyright claim is wrong. even though the berne convention would only go back to photos published in 1972 (25 year term after publication), evidently there were prior treaties that would require the US to recognize even earlier copyrights. see discussion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:PD-Cuba Calliopejen 21:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Dubious custom copyright claim. Superm401 17:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete -per above. Looks like the cover from a magazine--F3rn4nd0 22:48, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Wikipediafinishjpg.JPG
The image is the wikipedia logo that is not used anywhere. The logo is made with Paint and is superseded by a .png image. Honestly the image isn't good enough to be used on any wikipedia when a much better .png image exists. Mønobi 22:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete - Per comments at admin noticeboard. — Giggy 22:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete - Per Giggy (and specifically, the comment I left regarding this image at the Admin Noticeboard). Nick 23:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Super-superseded by Image:Wikipedia-logo-en.png. Not used and probably shouldn't be used. Rocket000 22:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Interstate 8 (California).svg
These image is duplicate under I-xx (CA).svg. Honestly this image is overflow and unneccessairly. Please delete it. --SWCoast 90 23:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- The duplicate images can be found at Image:I-8 (CA).svg and Image:I-110 (CA).svg respectively. This deletion request also includes Image:Interstate 110 (California).svg. This deletion discussion was malformed and I've refactored the request for deletion by User:Freewayguy correctly onto this page for listing at COM:DEL. Nick 00:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. ~ Riana ⁂ 23:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Checonsuperrito.jpg
same as above Calliopejen 21:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted by Boricuaeddie: copyvio
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[edit] Image:FrankfurtWaffen1998-2005.JPG
new version as .png uploaded 05.12.2007 in same category Wiki-Chris 09:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Better png version, request by uploader. --GeorgHH • talk 16:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:SchusswaffenmissbrauchBRDbis2006.jpg
redundant, new version is uploaded as .png on 5.12.2007 in same category Wiki-Chris 09:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Replaced by Image:SchusswaffenmissbrauchBRDbis2006.png, request by uploader. --GeorgHH • talk 17:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Broccoli_DSCN4323.jpg
The same image exists: Image:Broccoli DSCN4324.jpg, no links to this page Karelj 19:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
The following images, nominated for deletion for the same or substantially similar reasons have been added to this deletion discussion for ease of use. Nick
- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4317.jpg
- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4548.jpg
- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4558.jpg
- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4341.jpg
- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4349.jpg
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- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4547.jpg
- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4565.jpg
- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4560.jpg
- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4579.jpg
- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4577.jpg
- Image:Broccoli_DSCN4572.jpg
Keep None of these images are identical, and although I also wonder about why we would need 14 very similar images of (one particular bunch of) broccoli, it is not a reason for deletion. Deadstar (msg) 11:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept Excisting of similar images is no valid reason for deletion. One file Image:Broccoli DSCN4349.jpg deleted because it was too blurry. --GeorgHH • talk 17:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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superseded by Image:Naval Battle of Navarino by Carneray.jpg --jed 05:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
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Same file as Navarino.jpg, not used Phso2 13:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted 15. Dez. 2007 by ChristianBier as duplicate. --GeorgHH • talk 17:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:PSUV_propaganda_registro_militantes.JPG
obviously a copyrighted billboard Calliopejen 05:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Certainly derivative of the political billboard shown. If evidence is shown that derivative works such as this are allowed under Venezuelan law or that the political billboard is not restricted under copyright, keep; otherwise delete per nom -- Infrogmation 17:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, derivative. --Edward Morgan Blake 08:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted as derivative. --Tom (talk - email) 23:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Nieuwe_Hollandse_Waterlinie_the_Netherlands.jpg
png version uploaded of same subject NielsB 13:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept - superseded image formats not being deleted. --Tom (talk - email) 23:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Gentoo_Linux_2007.0.png
Gentoo logo is non commercial only, see en:Image:Glogo-small.png. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
That may be, but is there a reason to believe that this is not fair use under copyright? For instance, OS X has the Apple logo, which is copyrighted, in the top left corner. Windows has the Windows logo in the bottom left. Screenshots of these are acceptable to make, and are all over the internet without disclaimers. My laptop has Apple's logo on the back. Am I prohibited from distributing photos of it because the logo is there? An approriate fair use rationale will fulfill the conditions stated in en:Image:Glogo-small.png. Furthermore, the use of the desktop screenshot in the context of the article constitutes fair use under United States copyright law. There is no reason for this ridiculous deletion request. -- 71.173.13.51 "Fair use" is for Wikipedia, not for Commons. I went and censored the logo out of the image using a mosaic effect. --Damian Yerrick 16:14, 31 December 2007
I retract; I missed that important detail. Apologies. (<-- Same user as 71.173.13.51)
Delete I'm sure a better screenshot without the offending logo can be made. The pixellated version doesn't cut it either, since it's UGLY. -N 16:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep If that's how you feel, I just shopped out all traces of the Gentoo logo, and I vote keep on the new version. --Damian Yerrick (☎) 15:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone really care!? Is Gentoo gunna sue cause of that logo!@!? lolz... =) 69.108.69.100 21:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Kept. Old revisions with logos deleted, to be on the paranoid side. Lewis Collard! (hai thar, wut u doin) 20:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:457px-Banzuke.jpg
i can't read japanese but this doens't look pd-ineligible to me Calliopejen 05:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Only the first row is barely legible. The vertical line/dashes on the lower lines are actually words.
- The photo is used for the identification of the particular item which is simply a collection of words written in a particular calligraphy/print, and those has to be, clearly, identifiable and legible at least.
- I think that it is already a good compromise here. --58.152.233.174 14:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted. Can't read it either, but this image has no proper source. -- Cecil 14:56, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Deleted by Cecil: no proper source
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[edit] Image:1000_Finnish_Mark.jpg
not PD-ineligible. not sure if it's PD for another reason.... Calliopejen 05:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Image is not pd-ineligible. —Dark (talk) 11:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Category:Indie rock
This cat is useless. it doesn't fit into the Category:Rock music structure. --hst 15:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- I suggest redirecting it using {{categoryredirect}}. To what? I'll leave that up to you. If we delete it I'm sure someone will recreate it. There's already images filling it back up. Rocket000 21:22, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept. It already started filling back up. It's a legit category and since no one redirected we'll leave it for now. Take it to COM:CFD if you want. - Rocket000 22:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Anthomyzidae.jpg
This is not a fly belonging to Anthomyzidae. It is Clusiodes albimanus (Meigen) (originally Heteroneura albimana Meigen) a member of the Clusiidae. 198.103.93.194 22:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
rename How can you tell the difference? --Simonxag 11:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Reuploaded as Image:Clusiodes albimanus.jpg with hopefully a more accurate description. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Che-airport-14mar65.jpg
same reason as above Calliopejen 21:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- KEEP. There is no reason above. The picture is in the public domain because the Decreto Ley #156 from september 28th, 1994, which modiffied partialy Law #14 from december 28th, 1977 (Author's Right Law (Art 47), of Cuba, established that pictures are in the public domain 25 years after its first use.--Roblespepe 06:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
- PS: This is the template that has to be applied to this picture: Template:PD-Cuba
Deleted. giggy (:O) 04:57, 26 May 2008 (UTC) Giggy hit the wrong button by accident Kept Finn Rindahl 14:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Pilgrim Passport2.jpg
I don't know if all of the stamps on this credencial are in the public domain but I do know that they were created by many different people so the tag for this image must be false and as such ought to be changed or the image deleted. --Commment 20:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Please see my answer on the other image Image:Pilgrim Passport1.jpg Jane023 12:35, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Hmm. I see now that you are objecting to the stamps and not the image itself. In Europe there is no copyright on stamps, so yes, this is all public domain. All of the stamps are from St. James certified authorities, i.e. pilgrim helpers, tourist agencies and churches.Jane023 14:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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I don't know if all of the stamps on this credencial are in the public domain but I do know that they were created by many different people so the tag for this image must be false and as such ought to be changed or the image deleted. --Commment 20:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Hmm. I see now that you are objecting to the stamps and not the image itself. In Europe there is no copyright on stamps, so yes, this is all public domain. All of the stamps are from St. James certified authorities, i.e. pilgrim helpers, tourist agencies and churches. Jane023 12:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Burg Ruine Hardenstein Witten.jpg
There is a better version, this is obsolete. --87.123.193.219 00:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
There has not been any image uploaded under this filename. The deletion log for this image shows no record of any image under this name having been deleted either. I'm closing this discussion and leaving a note asking the contributor who requested deletion to try again or ask for assistance. If this image is on your local Wikipedia, please follow the procedures there to request the image be considered for deletion. Nick 01:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:02-06-05.jpg
useless 74.65.29.54 01:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep on a user gallery --Simonxag 23:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Was ist denn das für ein Löschgrund? --Marcela 18:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment No longer used on any page, "Stammtisch Feb. 06" isn't much of a description (but I assume it is a wikipedia gathering?). Not sure if the above is a reason for deletion though, there are lots of images of wikipedia meetups on commons (see Category:Meetings for a few examples). Deadstar (msg) 10:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Keepper Simonxag. __ ABF __ ϑ 19:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete not used. Rocket000 22:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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Delete — if it is not used on any Wikimedia project, then it does not belong here. COM:SCOPE says, "Wikimedia Commons is not a web host for e.g. private party photos, self-created artwork without educational purpose and such." --Boricuæddie 18:33, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep cf. Codeispoetry. --Eva K. Message 18:40, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Please use arguments related to Commons policies. --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 18:06, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Rata Bl.JPG
User with background of bad licensed images in English Wikipedia (see en:User:Xopedia). The user uploaded the same image at the English Wikipedia, which was deleted for lack of information, and recently uploaded a promotional image of Anette Olzon tagged with {{GFDL-no-disclaimers}} (image uploaded and example of promotional image). --ReyBrujo 02:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete obvious commercial image --Simonxag 23:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- deleted . History in en.wiki tells a lot. --Tarawneh 08:03, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:El iña.jpg
Apparently not used on any personal pages nor anywhere else, the image has no encyclopedical value, and might infringe personality rights if uploaded without the consent of the person portrayed. --User:G.dallorto 02:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Commons is not a personal photo album --Tarawneh 08:06, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- Deleted per Tarawneh. --Panther 19:49, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:07pd0334-m.jpg
redundant of Image:Atlantis Stack Mating (STS-117).jpg --LaraLove 02:32, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
The link Image:07pd0334-m.jpg is red link. That's mean this image is deleted or not available. -- This user loves Krittaya. 12:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:IronsideVan.jpg
Picture of a toy is a derivative work of copyrighted 3D artwork. Mr.Z-man 02:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete copyvio of the TV series --Simonxag 23:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. MichaelMaggs 22:26, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Bond logo.png
Obsoleted by Image:Bond logo.svg --danBLOO 03:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep superseeded is no reason to delete ChristianBier 15:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept {{supersededSVG|Bond logo.svg}} put on image. Superseded images are not deleted. Deadstar (msg) 10:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Newmacau.JPG
This is a logo. --Whhalbert 04:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete copyvio --Simonxag 23:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete non-free logo ChristianBier 15:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Deleted. --Panther 19:51, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Guetesiegel_gr.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 07:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- see here, but I do not know if its okay for Commons, i really have to learn on this field (If anyone likes to tell me a bit more about Commons and originality, please do so.) __ ABF __ ϑ 15:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. The image was speedy-deleted by Rama. Patrícia msg 17:25, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Padalec2.jpg
duplicate of Image:Anguidae.jpg --195.29.145.162 07:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Duplicate as stated. Deadstar (msg) 10:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Needs-moar-drama.jpg
This is a rather obvious case of trolling... not only can it be considered out of scope (we have plenty of other non-trolling images available to illustrate lolcat and for other purposes on other projects) but it's a not-so-veiled attack against an editor. A white cat in front of a wikipedia page with the sub-caption "needs moar drama", plus the image was added to User:WhiteCat's userpage by an editor other than User:WhiteCat, as can be seen here. Regardless of who the editor being indicated is I really see no reason to keep it here. -- Editor at Large • talk 10:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- I could be mistaken, but I don't think this is what the original uploader had in mind for the image. Is the image inherently bad, or was it misused here? Luna Santin 11:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- If someone can find me a picture under a Commons-compatible licence of a cat looking at a computer with Wikipedia on the monitor and the cat is some other colour, then please let me know, because this was the only one I could find (it had already been used in Image:Wikipedia-lolcat.jpg). --bainer (talk) 13:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- It being a "white cat" is a no-issue on my end. I do not 'own' all white cat images. The image seems to be prone to abuse which leads to drama. Would you mind altering the filename and caption a bit to make it less prone to that? The description "TROLL KITTEH NEEDS MOAR DRAMA" is not helping either. -- Cat ちぃ? 23:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see anything trollish about it. Ditto comments by Luna and Thebainer. --Fang Aili talk 15:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. I agree with Fang and Bainer. Raul654 18:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- I've been familiar with Cool Cat/White Cat for a long time, and when I saw that I didn't think of White Cat. Now, if there had been a picture of Belldandy or another Oh My Goddess character visible, I probably would've drawn such a link, but as it is, it seems much more likely that that editor merely appreciated the coincidence. Gwern
- Keep, it doesn't look like this is trolling on the part of the uploader at all. Hut 8.5 18:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy keep. per above. Miranda 13:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. Sarcasm != trolling. Disavian 23:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. It's thoroughly harmless. --75.15.194.137 23:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. It just seems like a humorous piece, and like others, I didn't think of the editor White Cat when I saw a white cat. Orderinchaos78 12:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep, but it needs more drama. Messedrocker 20:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep, by nominating this you are creating drama--Phoenix-wiki 20:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep - No convincing reason for deletion, consensus to keep the image. Nick 17:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:FARGUELLES.JPG
farguelles Ignaciogpp 12:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
speedy delete uploader has requested deletion within very short time of upload. --Simonxag 00:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Deleted. --Panther 19:54, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Daswamp.PNG
I don't see that this image is within COM:SCOPE. Deadstar (msg) 13:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Simonxag 00:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete nonsense image created with Microsoft Paint -- This user loves Krittaya. 11:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete totaly out of scope. __ ABF __ ϑ 13:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:BAP_Aguirre_CM_84.jpg
I' ve the permission of the webmaster and i've mentioned the site how says the webmaster Why others would delete it? I' ve the permission of the webmaster and i've mentioned the site how says the webmaster Why others would delete it? if the webmaster gave me the permission and you think they aren't PD, may be we can change type of licence and not delete it--Gaetano56 14:25, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
per Commons:Deletion requests/Image:BAP Ferrè.jpg. Lupo 14:26, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Lupo 12:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:CM_81.jpg
I' ve the permission of the webmaster and i've mentioned the site how says the webmaster Why others would delete it? --Gaetano56 14:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC) per Commons:Deletion requests/Image:BAP Ferrè.jpg. Lupo 14:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Lupo 12:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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Originally, I was tempted to speedy this, but by the time I got around to it, some images already used this. Hence this normal deletion request. The three images using this template are up for deletion separately. See also Commons:Deletion requests/Image:BAP Ferrè.jpg and Commons talk:Licensing#Template:Base Naval. Lupo 14:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Lupo 12:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Sergey_Lavrov_official.jpg
appears to have a copyright notice at the bottom of the source page but i can't read russian so i might be wrong.... Calliopejen 16:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Deleted. Russian official artworks are not in the public domain. See {{PD-RU-exempt}}. --Panther 20:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Ny-Alesund_(js)_6.jpg
Duplicate of Image:Ny alesund 1.jpg Jerzystrzelecki 18:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy delete: Image qualifies for speedy deletion. Nick 19:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Belanova.png
Obsoloted by Image:Belanova logo.svg --danBLOO 20:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept{{supersededSVG|Belanova logo.svg}} added. Superseded images are not deleted. Deadstar (msg) 10:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Belanova.png
Derivative of copyrighted album covers. Covers in question can be viewed at [37] [38] --IllaZilla (talk) 06:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Keep looks {{PD-textlogo}} to me. Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 10:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Kept. Definitely PD-textlogo. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 21:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Garment.jpg
Also:Image:Mormon woman's temple clothing circa 1870s.jpeg and Image:Mormon garments.jpg
This item is an item that many millions of people in the world hold sacred. The design is copyrighted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it's use is controled by said church, and the exibition of it is a voilation of the patent they hold on said item. --—the preceding unsigned comment was added by 155.97.237.221 (talk • contribs) 06:40, 6 December 2007
Keep anon user vandalized image description by deleting image description and licensing and then presented a ludicrous reason to delete the image. There is nothing special or copyrighted by this clothing (anything ethereally special about it is not enforceable by terrestrial copyright). -N 01:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
KeepDesign copyright doesn't mean that an image of the garment is copyrighted. Compare to photographs of design copyrighted cars for instance. /Lokal_Profil 01:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep as above. // Liftarn
Keep, the copyright (or patent? our uploader seems to be confused) has long expired on these. Interestingly, the nominator's from the University of Utah. Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 22:21, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep The first of the three images has a permission ticket. The latter two images were published in the USA in the 1870s; copyrights have expired per US law, as the license tag on the images correctly notes. -- Infrogmation 15:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep The cross is sacred to many people, but it is still displayed in many places. 140.32.16.104 09:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Similar to the Mohammad cartoon controversy; wikipedia kept those. truth can be offensive. --71.201.20.159 16:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep PD-old -- This user loves Krittaya. 11:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep as above ChristianBier 15:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept. Lupo 09:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Hydehello.jpg
Likely copyvio. Almost all other images that User:Seventh heaven has uploaded have been CD covers. Claimed source is locked discussion board. Igno2 00:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Uploader admits this is from a poster on his talk page. I pointed him towards free pics at Flickr. -N 11:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted, cv, false license. -- Infrogmation 15:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Inappropriate cartoons
- File:Alan dershowitz by Latuff.jpg ()
- File:Ambulances by Latuff2.jpg ()
- File:ArielSharon.gif ()
- File:BabyKillerZiombies.gif ()
- File:BiasLatuff.gif ()
- File:Bombman.gif ()
- File:Denial.gif ()
- File:Double Standard.gif ()
- File:Double standard Hebrew version.gif ()
- File:EvilDick.jpg ()
- File:FlyAmericanAirlines.gif ()
- File:Freud have an explanation.gif ()
- File:GayChrist.gif ()
- File:Hate speech by Latuff2.jpg ()
- File:GlobalIntifada.gif ()
- File:I lied.gif ()
- File:IsraHellburningbuses.png ()
- File:Israel Collective Punishment by Latuff2.jpg ()
- File:IsraeliBus.gif ()
- File:KillinintheRain.png ()
- File:Laughs.gif ()
- File:Nazis.gif ()
- File:Nonazis2.gif ()
- File:Norman Finkelstein says by Latuff2.jpg ()
- File:Palestine by Latuff by Latuff2.jpg ()
- File:Roadtonowhere.gif ()
- File:SharonAnti-Christ.gif ()
- File:Stopfundingterror.gif ()
- File:TelAvivbuststop.jpg ()
- File:The Palestinian by Latuff2.jpg ()
- File:The chosen and the chased by Latuff2.jpg ()
- File:US Mexico Israeli Style Wall by Latuff2.jpg ()
- File:War crimes 5.gif ()
- File:View.gif ()
- File:WekillforFUN.gif ()
- File:WelcometoIsraHELL.gif ()
- File:Zionazihero.gif ()
I think these images should be deleted because they are inappropriate. They are either racist, bias, prejudiced, slander, libel, anti-Semitic, denial of the Holocost, sickning, non-educational or otherwise useless. Wikimedia is not a normal image database, but a service for other Wikimedia project. These images have been uploaded in the name of education, but I think this is pure propaganda. Needless to say that there is no double standard. I pick the images I saw fit to delete. I am not aware of conflicts in the US and other countries and as such I did not list images I did not understand for deletion. If someone feels I missed an image - they are free to nominate it in a deletion request of their own.
I'll point out that I have not listed image:Cry-wolf.png as I think it can be used for educational purposes. Nevertheless, all the rest are shockingly utterly useless.
Yonidebest Ω Talk 11:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep I've made my position quite clear on this on the foundation-l list. This is "OMG! I don't like it." There is no valid deletion criteria listed. --Brianmc 11:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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- As you've probably guessed, both DragonFire1024 and I are not Commons regulars, hence the oppose votes as opposed to keep/delete. What's the norm for Commons - or will these be kept as is? And, as an aside, this was first brought up on the foundation-l mailing list under the impression it was an appeal to the board to "delete this terribly offensive content" (paraphrase). --Brianmc 12:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- I converted both your votes to use {{vk}}. I hope you don't mind. -- Bryan (talk to me) 12:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'm glad to see I judged Commons appropriately on this issue and my comments on foundation-l about not deleting this stuff - so far - are borne out by the voting. --Brianmc 13:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- I converted both your votes to use {{vk}}. I hope you don't mind. -- Bryan (talk to me) 12:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- As you've probably guessed, both DragonFire1024 and I are not Commons regulars, hence the oppose votes as opposed to keep/delete. What's the norm for Commons - or will these be kept as is? And, as an aside, this was first brought up on the foundation-l mailing list under the impression it was an appeal to the board to "delete this terribly offensive content" (paraphrase). --Brianmc 12:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep I think this request shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of a media bank. A mass deletion request like this for non copyright violation reasons is unlikely to succeed. I do not believe any of the reasons you have stated are sufficient reasons for deletion from commons, I can conceive of valid uses for all the images of this group that I have looked at, most have been quite valid, pointed, political cartoons about politicians and their actions. Good taste is not their strong point, but then they are about very distasteful events that involve trivial things like people getting killed. --Tony Wills 11:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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Comment The only common thread seems to be the cartoonist, some are relatively 'mild', they can not be considered as a group to delete, your best bet would be to pick off images like Image:Alan_dershowitz_by_Latuff.jpg for their deformation potential --Tony Wills 12:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- "...deformation potential..." - get it?!? Hahahahah! Anyway, people who put themselves into the public eye through public service are pretty exempt from defamation protection, especially about their public service. And, in this particular case, we're archiving images already in the public eye elsewhere. -- Peter Blaise Peterblaise 13:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep (keep images) There is no valid reason to delete any of these images. There is no copyvio, and they are properly formatted. Commons etc is not censored. DragonFire1024 11:59, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Commons is not censored. I'm not yet sure whether or not we should include the cartoons in their subjects main galleries, but that is anyways a different matter. -- Bryan (talk to me) 12:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep - not a valid reason for deletion even if the allegations were true. // Liftarn
Keep "...shocking..." is reason enough to KEEP 'em! Now, on the other hand, Hitler would have quashed cartoons against him. If we don't want to be compared to Hitler, then let's not act like Hitler in trying to quash criticism and ridicule against us, as illustrated in these cartoons! (See reaction) By the way, thanks for leading us to Latuff's cartoons - GREAT! -- Peter Blaise Peterblaise 12:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Godwin's law. -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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- I know, I know. But Hitler's such a clear example of so many wrong things that it hard to resist (especially in this context). Peterblaise 19:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep - do I like them - no, not all of them. Will they offend someone - probably. However there is plenty of material out there like that. Can I see a valid reason for deleting them, no --Herby talk thyme 12:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep - If these are controversial or offensive, then all the more reason to keep. Free speech may not fly too far around here because that's not really to do with project scope, but there's a serious issue here. Commons isn't censored - so who cares if you're offended?! I may be too, but that's not a reason to delete anything. I thought the response on foundation-l would have been enough to deter this spurious nomination which seems to be going nowhere. —the preceding unsigned comment was added by Mike.lifeguard (talk • contribs)
Keep per Tony Willis, Brianmc, et al -- Infrogmation 14:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
KeepThe criteria of usefulness needs examining. This is not the Wikipedia. It's a media collection for use, now and in the future, by all the Wikimedia projects. That includes Wikipedia articles yet to be written and Wikiversity courses yet to be created. The use to which images are put will be determined by the imagination and creativity of future editors; of course this will be limited by the lack of imagination of we editors who delete potentially useful media. --Simonxag 15:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Please also request to burn all archives of «Известия», «Крокодил», «Вожык» and all books about Кукрыниксы. --EugeneZelenko 16:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep - I find some of these cartoons offensive and overdone. But I am also against censoring stuff because people find something offensive. If people (like me for instance) find something offensive they have the choice not to look at something. Waerth 16:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Commons is not and should not be censored --Markie 16:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Not censored, nothing wrong. --Oldak Quill 16:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep, the cartoons probably shouldn't be featured on main gallery pages of the people they represent like Ariel Sharon and the likes, but commons isn't censored and there's a place for these images in the right context. Yonatan talk 17:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Worrying tendency is to see pushing of censorship. However, I am glad to see a completely opposite picture here, at Commons. --Millosh 17:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep No valid reason for mass deletion. Yann 19:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep We're not censored, the images may prove useful for some purpose on some project. Nick 20:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy kept per overwhelming votes. -- Infrogmation 21:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Shock-awe-graffiti.jpg
Derivative work: photo of a painting. --Liftarn 12:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Image content is informational and testimony to the existance of a "public performance". It would be nice of the contributor also has a photo showing context, as the photographer stipulates the date and location "...Brick Lane, London, Photograph taken by Michael Reeve, 31 May 2004...". -- Peter Blaise Peterblaise 13:44, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry - I don't have a photo of the context. I mainly contributed it to Wikipedia, as it seemed illustrative of the prevailing atmosphere in the country concerning the behaviour of the troops at Abu Ghraib. Essentially, it was on a blank wall which (like most walls in Hoxton and Shoreditch) was largely covered with band and club night posters. I don't have a strong opinion about whether it should be deleted. However, if being a "derivative work" is the only reason for deletion, I strongly vote to keep on the principle that I'm not sure how else graffiti could be included within the encyclopedia... - 86.155.102.18 14:18, 16 December 2007 (UTC) Oops. (forgot to log in) - MykReeve 14:19, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept. Precedent here is that illegal graffiti is not considered copyrightable. See Commons:Deletion requests/Image:RATM Graffiti.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/Image:River Nar at King's Lynn.jpg ("1. permanent, 2. illegal and 3. de minimis."). Lewis Collard! (hai thar, wut u doin) 20:49, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Die_schweizerische_post.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 07:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep in my opinion ineligible ChristianBier 15:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Copyvio - logo Swiss Postal service. See here - All rights reserved. Deadstar (msg) 10:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete in dewiki it would be okay as LogoSH, but in commonswiki no chance, as far as i know, sorry. __ ABF __ ϑ 13:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Copyrighted logo. RedCoat 19:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Grafit.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 07:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Why not? (No source/author specified though) Deadstar (msg) 10:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete copyrighted by its owner, not a simple line or circle . --Tarawneh 08:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- delete. --Tarawneh 03:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:BulbgraphOnOff.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 06:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept. Nilfanion 16:29, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Celtic_cross.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 06:59, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep that's ludicrous, this is an ancient design and is simple geometry. This representation of it is in no way original and does not qualify for copyright. -N 01:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)- OsamaK, can you give any arguments? --MichałRadecki 00:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Keep - i think also that this image is a keeper. Oren neu dag 14:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Kept. MichaelMaggs 07:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Stadio Comunale di Torino.jpg
Unsourced, uncredited. --User:G.dallorto 02:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Escudo_Venezuela.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 07:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Defenitly passes the threshold for originality. Also very likely to be a copyvio e.g. [39] ./Lokal_Profil
Deleted. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Monstranz-Heilig-Kreuz.jpg
The given permission doesn't specify a concrete licence and doesn't allow modification. See OTRS-Ticket [40] --Lyzzy 19:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, I am afraid that I have to accept this delition request. I did what I could to convince the owner of the picture that he shouldn't be worried about modifikations but a catholic priest has a special oppinion about religious items. So the article has to live without this foto. I accept your deletion request. --BBKurt 09:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Benutzer_friedrich.kromberg_wech_1.gif
Not "ineligible for copyright". OsamaK 06:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- If you look at the history, you'll see that it was originally GFDL-licensed. This edit, either vandalism or ignorance, changed it to pd-ineligible. Therefore
Keep, with GFDL-license. "Urheber" means author, de:Benutzer:Friedrich.Kromberg created the image. --rimshottalk 15:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Kept. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Reopened: Obviously, the user is not the author, so we need some proof for GFDL. Code·is·poetry 09:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- The author obviously is Friedrich Kromberg, as is also stated in the image description. I changed the license to GFDL, I don't know why that wasn't done yet. --rimshottalk 11:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Kept. MichaelMaggs 21:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Yvette.jpg
Unused image of Wikipedian who left the project in September. No reason to transwiki to Commons Lokal_Profil 03:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Unused. sv.WP has a local copy anyway if she comes back. Rocket000 21:47, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Pregboobs.jpg
this is not self-made; there is a copy of this already at the Pregnancy article. uploaded by a user who uploaded two pornographic photos and created disrupted templates. User:96.233.111.49, 07:12, 7 December 2007
- Copyviol of Image:Closeup of female breast.jpg under false license and source. -- Infrogmation 15:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deleted, Copyright violation -- Infrogmation 15:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Assfuk.png
IP User:96.233.111.49 added deletion template to image for reason "Dubious license. In another instance, the uploader downloaded an existing Wikimedia image, then re-uploaded it, claiming that it was "self-made". This is unlikely "self-made", the user used it to create disruptive templates." but did not complete that process.
My deletion reason is: small, low resolution, non informative image. Do we really need more exhibitionist in commons? --Igno2 09:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom - certainly would not seem to have any real value across projects --Herby talk thyme 14:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deleted, uploader has used false licenses and source as well. -- Infrogmation 15:23, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Sex.png
IP User:96.233.111.49 added deletion template to image for reason "Dubious license. In another instance, the uploader downloaded an existing Wikimedia image, then re-uploaded it, claiming that it was "self-made". This is unlikely "self-made", the user used it to create disruptive templates." but did not complete that process.
My deletion reason is: small, low resolution, non informative image. Do we really need more exhibitionist in commons? --Igno2 09:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom - certainly would not seem to have any real value across projects --Herby talk thyme 14:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Useless. Rocket000 18:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deleted Low res porn by uploader shown to have given false licenses and sources. -- Infrogmation 15:21, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Cid-vela!!.gif
Source is Killerpollo.com - yet license is PD-self? Besides that I think the image (unless it's a recognised piece of artwork of this particular person) is out of scope. Site mentioned doesn't open for me at the moment. Deadstar (msg) 10:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Source site says "KillerPollo.com by Cid Vela © Copyright 2007 - KTV Network ®". -- Infrogmation 14:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Rocket000 22:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Music.jpg
Out of scope Deadstar (msg) 10:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom & possibly copyvio --Herby talk thyme 14:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete I think this image is copyvio too. -- This user loves Krittaya. 11:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per Herby. __ ABF __ ϑ 18:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted -- Infrogmation 05:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Oude man origineel.JPG
personality infringement --Jellobie 12:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Would be fine with personality rights warning but unfortunately license is non-commercial! --Herbert Ortner 00:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Jellobie originally uploaded this under CC-BY-3.0. Please explain the license change. -- Infrogmation 14:48, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment See also Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Jellobie... Lupo 23:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept. Closing this because the nominator's reason was invalid. It still may be speedy deleted as a copyvio. Further discussion should take place here - Rocket000 11:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:NEWS050816_1314.jpg
Low resolution, poor quality, I doubt that it is GFDL. Also unknown subject, unused. GeorgHH 18:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Delete Unusable without description. --Juiced lemon 01:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Delete tiny blury photo of unidentified subject with no info. -- Infrogmation 14:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete very small photo, very blur, not use, unknown subject, no info, ผมไม่รู้ว่าภาพนี้มันสื่อถึงอะไร -- This user loves Krittaya. 11:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted per nom & votes. Out of scope. Deadstar (msg) 14:56, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:09-05_à_05-06-2007_821.jpg
Anonymous image without description, no links to any wikipedia page. Karelj 19:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deleted, no license since June. -- Infrogmation 14:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:100-0025.JPG
Low quality anonymous image without any connection to some wikipedia page. Karelj 19:44, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete: Poor quality / irrelevant / not used. --Gepardenforellenfischer 10:11, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. I cant see what is it, a lot of people standing around containers? For me it gives no sence at all. __ ABF __ ϑ 13:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Rocket000 22:03, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Fuel_band_live.jpg
"Photo taken by fan for official site" doesn't mean there is no copyright nor cc-sa-2.0. Link to the site doesn't open for me. Deadstar (msg) 14:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom & "404" for me too --Herby talk thyme 14:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. And Opera gives "The requested URL /somethinglikehuman/fuelphotos3.html was not found on this server.", so the page is away possibly. __ ABF __ ϑ 13:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Consuelo Vanderbilt;coronation- 9 augustus 1902.jpg
IP User:85.133.1.176 added the following comment: Again, this is a V&A image, which I personally have cleaned from the negative. Whoever lifted it from the Lafayette website knew that he/she was pilfering and could not be bothered giving a source for the image. As for the copyright, stating that it is an old image is the most puerile form of plagiarism I have seen.
Although the source is lacking, in regards to the other point IP is making, I am fairly sure it is PD because of age (US 1902) (so it is correctly licensed) but would like confirmation. We can then delete the comment off the page/move it to talk? Not sure why IP user says "again" as I don't see any other contributions by this IP besides the two to this image. Thanks for your help.
--Deadstar (msg) 15:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- See COM:ART#United Kingdom, en:Talk:Sarah Bernhardt#Image copyright, Commons talk:Licensing/Archive 9#Copyright_info_pages.3F, and Commons:Deletion requests/Archive/2006/04#Image:Lafayette 1899 arthur reginald french.jpg. The Lafayette archives would certainly hold a kind of copyright for 25 years on previously unpublished photos (known as publication right) in the EU. In the U.S., I don't know exactly, since it would depends on the year the image was first published by the Lafayette archives. Whether their clean-up efforts would give them a (new) copyright even on previously published materials (such as the Sarah Bernhardt image) is questionable.
Certainly not in the U.S., see en:WP:PD#Derived works and restorations of works in the public domain. So, when and where was this first published? Lupo 16:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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- BTW, the original is here and dates to June 26, 1911, not to August 9, 1902. For a list of possible photographers, see [41]. Lupo 16:15, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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Deleted as it appears to have been unpublished while it was copyrighted and then published in 2002 by V&A, and so they would indeed have a copyright on it. BTW, these photos are British works, not U.S. works. The Sarah Bernhardt image (yes, I know this discussion is not about that image, but still...) might be fine though, as it appears to have been published in 1899 and the photographer is dead for more than 70 years. Lupo 20:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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Delete. Horrific abuse of copyright law by special interest groups. 1. Extend copyright indefinitely 2. ? 3. Profit ! Megapixie 14:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. In the absence of any suggestion of any earlier publication, the Lafayette Archives has a type of copyright called Publication right over this image. See UK Copyright and Related Rights Regulations 1996. MichaelMaggs 17:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Bard_of_Ely.jpg
"I got permission to use this promotional image from the fansite because I am a friend" doesn't really say "copyrighted free use" to me. Deadstar (msg) 15:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted by S1: In Category:Unknown as of 8 December 2007; still incomplete information on source/license/author/perm.
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[edit] Image:Imagen.JPG
Image without source and no desription, it is not used in any Wikipedia article Karelj 18:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted by Tarawneh: In category Unknown as of 11 December 2007; no source
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[edit] Image:Hapoel_jlm1B_hh.jpg
"free to use for fans" isn't enough for commons. It's a logo: derivative works/commercial use not specifically allowed. ---- Deadstar (msg) 09:21, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete not free licensed. "It is free use for all fans of Hapoel Katamon in an effort to gain financial support for the club's creation." Are non fans even allowed to look at it? :-) -- Infrogmation 15:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)- Who slapped the CC license on there? Rocket000 11:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted: unfree license terms. WjBscribe 06:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Alejandro_Lois_Descubrimiento_Star_trek_27_01_2002.jpg
derivative work - Star Trek. User is giving permission for "illustrating Wikipedia" (which is not enough), and although there is a source website mentioned, the license says that uploader releases it into PD. Deadstar (msg) 10:55, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted: derivative work, unfree permission terms. WjBscribe 06:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Jessie_Murdoch_Fans_Logo.JPG
"Logo for the Jessie Fans Website. Made it myself - I got really bored." Hm. I think it's out of scope for commons. Deadstar (msg) 11:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Although, I can see some use for Wikia wikis, not useful to host for Wikimedia projects. Rocket000 11:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted: outside project scope. WjBscribe 06:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Poporoquimbaya.jpg
copyright violation Jan Arkesteijn 18:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Copyvio from Museo del Oro - all rights reserved. Image widely used on en (as included in userbox). Deadstar (msg) 11:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete copyvio--F3rn4nd0 08:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Img1.PNG
Image without description and source, it is not used in any wikipedia article Karelj 18:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
12:36, 4 January 2008 ABF (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Image:Img1.PNG" (In category Unknown as of 11 December 2007; no source)
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Image without description and source, it is not used in any wikipedia article Karelj 18:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Oude_man.jpg
Personality infringment Jellobie 17:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment How so? -- Infrogmation 16:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment See also Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Jellobie... and note that the license is now non-commercial-only... Lupo 23:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept. No. Licenses are irrevocable. →Rocket°°° 01:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:LundmarkStateDiagram3BallMaxThrow5.gif
Unfortunately, "permission for use on wikipedia" is not enough. --Deadstar (msg) 13:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC) --Deadstar (msg) 13:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted — Permission for use on Wikipedia isn't enough. —Dark (talk) 11:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Ryan_Murphy.JPG
The description sounds like it was written by a fan... do we know if this person is a notable musician? Image is not used. Deadstar (msg) 09:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment The top google hit for "Ryan Murphy" guitar shows someone who doesn't look like this guy. The description is POV hype. Though as photos of random guys playing a guitar goes, this isn't bad and is PD-self licensed. -- Infrogmation 15:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, random guy from Philly, but he's not a pro. The name is probably right, though. Although the image with that over-the-top description was probably uploaded to poke fun at a friend, I see no reason to doubt the PD-self license, and the image might be useful. Hence
Keep. I have, however, removed the hype and added {{Personality rights}}. Shall I try to contact the Mr. Murphy who I think this is? Lupo 15:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, random guy from Philly, but he's not a pro. The name is probably right, though. Although the image with that over-the-top description was probably uploaded to poke fun at a friend, I see no reason to doubt the PD-self license, and the image might be useful. Hence
Kept. MichaelMaggs 07:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Neptuni.jpg
Never released as GFDL. And (according to uploaders discussion page) the image was taken by a friend not him. Lokal_Profil 02:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. __ ABF __ ϑ 18:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per above. --Svens Welt 14:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Deleted. Shizhao 16:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Äldre_Västgötalagen.jpg
This image that was photographed by the Royal Library in Stockholm is not public domain in Sweden, per Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Nordic_countries Fred J 18:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom. The actual photos are (c) 50 years from creation. Same problem with Image:B74detail.jpg and Image:ScanianLaw B74.jpg (both are (c) the Royal Library of Stockholm.) And while we're at it, axe Image:Codex Holmiensis CE 1350.jpg, Image:Scania Churchlaw.jpg, Image:CodexRunicus.jpeg and the derived Image:Codex Runicus - Drømde mik en drøm i nat.jpg. All four photos are (c) by the Royal Library of Denmark. Image:Saxo original 001.jpg must also come from this source. Copyright protection has only expired for any such photo taken before 1 Jan 1970 (Denmark) / 1 Jan 1969 (Sweden). Valentinian T / C 23:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- I hate saying it, but Image:Grundloven-1849-forside.jpg must fall into this category as well. Valentinian T / C 22:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Please note that Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag is often ignored in deletion debates, for instance in Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Jorunn (uploaders request). --Kjetil r 01:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
If that is the case, then editors deliberately violate local laws. Images on Commons have to be free in both the country of origin and the U.S. Anybody in Denmark (and most of Europe) reusing the Danish images I've listed before will do so violating the copyright of the photographer as specified in § 70 of the Danish Copyright Act. No Danish court has made a verdict to the contrary. Otherwise, Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia will need to be changed to "Content on Wikimedia Commons is free to be used on websites hosted in the U.S. by U.S. citizens. Use in other countries and jurisdictions may be a violation of local laws." If a kid in Scandinavia uses such images somewhere else than on a website hosted in the U.S. or Germany, that will mean a violation of the copyright law of his own country. PD-art is claimed to be valid in the U.S. (1 ruling by 1 judge) and in Germany (1 ruling by 1 judge). In no country do we have such a ruling on Supreme Court level, and we've so far been unable to find corresponding verdicts in Scandinavian law. If you know any, I'm all ears. The material presented on the talk page of "When to use the PD-art tag" states that this material is copyrighted:
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- Om skyddstiden löpt ut för de klassiska konstverken, så [är de] fria verk. Det gör att svaret koncentrerar sig på skyddet för fotografierna och fotografen. Alla typer av fotografier är skyddade.
http://www.legalahandboken.netuniversity.se/fragor/undervisning/upphovsratt/anvand_bild/bilder7.html (notice that the website is "legalahandboken.netuniversity.se", with questions being answered by "Professor Cecilia Magnusson Sjöberg, och doktoranderna Katarina Renman Claesson och Sanna Wolk, från Juridiska institutionen vid Stockholms universitet," [42] [Stockholm University, Department of Law]
- [..] ett fotografi av det raka strecket som kanske inte är särskilt originell ändå har ett skydd som bild i 50 år efter knäppet.
- Fråga:
- Har ett fotografi som man tar på ett berömt konstverk av en sedan länge död konstnär fortsatt upphovsrättsligt skydd?
- Svar:
- För att ett fotografi skall få upphovsrättsligt skydd måste det ha verkshöjd och då gäller samma förutsättningar som för alla andra konstnärliga verk. Emellertid har en fotograf även vissa rättigheter till ett fotografi som inte har verkshöjd. Detta skydd gäller oavsett vad bilden föreställer. Skyddet ger fotografen rätt att mångfaldiga bilden och att göra den tillgänglig för allmänheten. Denna rätt gäller dock endast under femtio år (och inte sjuttio), räknat från det år då bilden framställdes.
- http://www.kb.se/BIBSAM/juridik/fos/fotografi.htm [Royal Library of Sweden]
(orig. posted by Fred J 14:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC))
Those of you who can read Norwegian should read no:Wikipedia-diskusjon:Retningslinjer_for_billedbruk/Gammel_versjon#Fotografier_av_gamle_kunstverk. Several authoritative sources claim that photos of paintings are «simple photographs» and thus protected for 50 years. --Kjetil r 15:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
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Or the website of the Danish Ministry of Culture: "Der stilles ikke noget objektivt nyhedskrav, idet to mere eller mindre identiske værker, der er frembragt uafhængigt af hinanden (dobbeltfrembringelser), kan principielt beskyttes hvert for sig. Ophavsretten er med andre ord ikke en prioritetsbeskyttelse. Sandsynligheden for dobbeltfrembringelser er imidlertid i praksis en vigtig målestok for, om der foreligger værkshøjde – jo større sandsynlighed for dobbeltfrembringelse, jo større sandsynlighed for, at værkshøjdekravet ikke er opfyldt. " ( = There is no objective demand for novelty, as two more or less identical works (dobbeltfrembringelser) created independently of each other can both be protected. But the possibility of the creation of identical works, is - in practice - an important yardstick for whether Schöpfungshöhe has been reached or not. The higher the probability of producing identical works, the higher probability that any such works cannot be considered to have reached Schöpfungshöhe.") [43]
The last sentence is merely a phrase to the effect that such images will "merely" fall under the 50 year clause but not the 70 year pma clause. Valentinian T / C 10:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep per [44]. Let us delete Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Nordic_countries instead. Kjetil r 19:29, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Replace with Image:Västgötalagen blad 21.jpg who is the same page from the same law, but was published in 1924. Thuresson 15:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment In conjunction with this deletion request, I'd like to vent my personal frustration about the rigidity of Swedish copyright laws. Currently they render it virtually impossible for anyone to freely use even centuries-old public domain material simply because no one willing to release photos of books like these under a copyleft license is likely to get the chance to photograph it. Since neither libraries, museums or similar institutions don't seem too keen on releasing anything without slapping restrictions on usage, the door is effectively slammed shut on displaying public domain art on Wikipedia. As for the deletion discussion itself, I'd like to point out that it's difficult to determine the details of this picture since the Royal Library has removed it from their site. I was the one who uploaded it, but I can't recall the exact info. However, is it possible that this is in fact not a photo but a scan? If so, it should be able to stay here under a public domain license. Peter Isotalo 17:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with you about the rigidity of the copyright law. Deletion requests such as this show how silly many copyright laws are.
- Anyways, it is unlikely to be a scan. Here you can see the page together with some other material at KB. All of them look like photographs, since they clearly have shadows.
- Fred J (talk) 20:24, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep Swedish institutions will insist on their copyright in eternity if we are just doing what they tell us to do, no matter what any laws say. While I was still a press contact on the Swedish Wikipedia I was contacted regarding copyright on Image:Drottning Kristina av Sverige.jpg, and they insisted repeatedly the image should be deleted until I managed to make clear I wouldn't delete it personally on the spot (the image was still on the Swedish wikipedia at the time because there is no source given) - then they just changed their position to: "OK, never mind". As long we let them choose to allow to let us use these kind of images or not, they are going to say no. The entire issue keeps falling back on how to define "originality" (verkshöjd) and "technical reproduction". In this case it requires an expert and some guessing to determine if it is a scan or a photo.
Mats Halldin 18:11, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Deleted. All photographs are protected by Swedish copyright law for 50 years, as per Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Nordic_countries. Photo has been replaced with Image:Västgötalagen blad 21.jpg who is in much higer resolution. Thuresson 13:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Deleted by Thuresson: Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Äldre Västgötalagen.jpg
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[edit] Image:N26722872_31646450_4111.jpg
does not meet COM:SCOPE, personal picture MECU≈talk 17:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete totaly out of scope. __ ABF __ ϑ 18:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment It could be used to illustrate beer pong -Rocket000 00:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:07232007.jpg
Image without description, it is not used in any wikipedia article Karelj 19:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Uploader has made legitimate contributions to automobile images and categorization so I'm inclined to give them the benifit of a doubt about this one. I have added the category for the vehicle make to the image page. -- Infrogmation 15:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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Keep Image is identifiable, so a description can be added by others (and it has). Unused is not a deletion reason. The EXIF info (and license plate style) is consistent with later uploads from the same user (such as Image:12012007.jpg), so it does appear to be self-made and the licensing is fine. Carl Lindberg 16:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:2003_UB313_NASA_illustration_3.jpg
This image has as a source http://www.nmm.ac.uk/upload/img/2003-UB313-concept.jpg which is from the website of the National Maritime Museum. I cannot verify that it is in fact a NASA image, their is a good chance it is not. This museum has its own collections of artistic impressions, and they also sell photographs of their collection. TheDJ 22:20, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete There are similar NASA images of this object, but this is not one of them. -N 16:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment I found a replacement image btw: http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/newplanet-072905-images.html is the original announcement of this UB313 and contains an image very similar that could be used. It is on commons here TheDJ 19:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Socket_AM2+.jpg
Not a Socket AM2+ as the filename and text suggests. Looks like a Socket A, there are enough and better Socket A pics available. Denniss 18:25, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
It's definitely not an AM2+ Socket. Please delete it. Sorry for the inconvenience. --Μυρμηγκάκι 21:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. MichaelMaggs 21:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Nile_Kinnick_relief.jpg
This relief (2d? 3d?) work of art has only recently been installed in Iowa. Not sure if an image of it is allowed. Deadstar (msg) 08:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete copyvio no Freedom of Panorama in the US --Simonxag 23:45, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. MichaelMaggs 17:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Istakhri_map_2.jpg
Fake. Not the hand writing of Istakhari, check Image:C952 map of ash-Sham by Ibrahim ibn Muhammad Istakhri.jpg . This Image is used in Persian Gulf name edit-war with no real source. The north south east west orintation dose not match that used by Istakhri. More of Istakhari work can be seen in http://www.netnative.com/news/05/sep/1099.html http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00maplinks/medieval/alistakhri/alistakhri.html http://www.capurromrc.it/mappe/!0119arabia.html Tarawneh 01:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
As I understand, you have requested the deletion of this image based on two levels:
- That there hasnt been enough information provided for verification purposes.
- That you think it is a fake.
I will answer to both questions separately:
- On verification
The picture was taken by me in 2005, if I recall correctly. It was taken atthe Library of the National Museum of Iran. It was not an original map however, but a copy. Other than that, and that it was from an 1839 re-print of "Al-aqaleem" by Istakhri, I didnt write down anything else when making this image.
However, the map also does appear in a book by author Najaf¯i, Muhammad B¯aqir. Title: Khuzistan dar manabi' Iran-shinasi. Tehran. 1983. This study documents in 5 chapters and 162 pages, maps, sources, and names of Khuzestan and Ahvaz in the most extensive detail.
I will however be traveling to Iran in the upcoming summer again. Perhaps I can obtain more details to the map during that visit, if interested?
- On the "fakeness" accusation
As to your accusation of the maps being fake because of style discrepancies, it can be noted that you are referring to a sample of Istakhri's map on Jerusalem and Arabia. Istakhri however had not one, but several maps, possibly in several manuscripts.
That Istakhri uses the term "Persian Sea" in his works is not even disputed. For example see the follwoing texts where Istakhri is quoted as using the term "Bahr-al-Fars" (Persian Sea):
- Behind the Veil in Arabia: Women in Oman, By Unni Wikan, 1991, ISBN 0226896838, p.27
- Culture and Memory in Medieval Islam By Josef W. Meri, Farhad Daftary, 2003, ISBN 1860648592, p.114
And here, Istakhri's use of the term Persian Sea is fully discussed.
So no, the map is not a fake. Of course we can discuss this further.--Zereshk 22:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- This is not about Istakhri using the term Persian Sea or gulf. Almost all Muslim writers at the time used that term. I am talking about the maps it self. Check the hand writing, that is not his handwriting and the numbers printed on the map!. Even the outlining of the words بحر فارس. The style is totally different[45] , check image:Stylized Persian Gulf.jpg. Nothing in common. The orientation is totally wrong. Check the map in Jewish virtual library. the work مشرق is located on the left, while you have it on the right on your map. The world at that time was seen upside down. Maps drawn by Arabs and Muslims had the east drawn on the left side and the north on the bottom. [46] [47] . I have sent an email to Prof. Karen C. Pinto from Columbia University, a Medieval Muslim Cartographical expert. She should be able to give more details on the matter. --Tarawneh 10:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
No good reason for deletion, fakeitude is not an issue. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:13, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Veronese_noces_de_cana.jpg
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copyright : it is a photo made by the museum. Nicostella 16:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment Would a French speaker care to summarise this discussion for everyone's benefit? Lewis Collard! (talk, contribs, en.wp) 16:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted: Under French law, photographic reproduction can entail copyright. Rama 21:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Deleted by Rama: Copyright violation
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[edit] Image:100_0695_copy.jpg2.jpg
No description, practically the same image is here: Image:100 0695 copy.jpg --Karelj 18:31, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment One is an edited copy (but worse) of the other. The original file is used on user's page on es:. Deadstar (msg) 11:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
No good reason for deletion. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Cazabombardero_F-16.jpg
Uploader blanked the page with PD-self claim unexplained. Jusjih 03:40, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Please, delete it. Uploader.
Delete best guess copyvio --Simonxag 20:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Uploader requested (unused). Rocket000 22:07, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Wrxstyi.JPG
Unused, uneeded vanity pic of uploader's genitals -N 04:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete poor quality --Simonxag 20:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted -- Infrogmation 05:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Human_scrotum.jpg
unused uneeded vanity pic of uploader's genitals -N 04:19, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Rocket000 22:05, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Ed_Rendell.jpg
No indication that given license is correct; I asked uploader for clarification, and he simply responded by blanking his talk page and ignoring it. Has history of bad governor uploads before. The Evil Spartan 04:38, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment PD-BECAUSE-I-SAID-SO is a new one on me :P -N 04:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete The claimed copyright status is unverifiable. The uploader should be referred to the OTRS verification system. Sandstein 07:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete Source site has a clear copyright notice. -- Infrogmation 14:33, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete unless some documentation is provided that a government official has officially released the photo from the website's usual copyright policy. --Delirium 22:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. MichaelMaggs 22:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Crazy Taxi remote control car2.jpg
Derivative work of 3D work of art. --SeizureDog 06:04, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Comment I'm not sure about this image is photo of toy from camera or 3D art. -- This user loves Krittaya. 12:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted as derivative work. MichaelMaggs 22:44, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Image-Mk4DVT-82208_at_Kings_Cross.jpg
nameing error have replaced image with corectly named picture Oxyman 07:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- here is corectly named imageImage:Mk4DVT-82208 at Kings Cross.jpgOxyman 07:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
This photo was renamed, and there are no deletion request of the renamed photo now. -- This user loves Krittaya. 12:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:AlecBaldwin.jpg
Uncertain copyright status. The Flickr account that uploaded this photo credits it to a third party, www.drudgereport.com/ (source), so it's debatable whether the account holder has the right to release this image under a CC license. --Muchness 10:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom; attribution is to a blog that commonly reuses copyrighted wire service photos. -- Infrogmation 14:28, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete per Infrogmation. Adambro 16:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete This is not a free image. 71.178.53.174 20:39, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete seems not to be free. And per Infrogmation. __ ABF __ ϑ 13:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Luzcasalposter.jpg
Copyvio: http://www.galegos.info/detalle.php?id=1598&tabla=gallegos --Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 10:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted, clear copyrigth violation. -- Infrogmation 23:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:EXCREMENTS_OF_DOG.JPG
Useless, unnecessarily gruesome picture -N 19:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete unless uploader provides a source and gives a believable description. It looks possibly like dog food, definitely not dog dung. --Simonxag 21:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. Poorly named (it's dog food) and unsourced (also unused). Rocket000 21:59, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Frederikdenmark1753.jpg
Delete PD-art or similar doesn't apply. 1) Not a 2D work of art, 2) PD-art doesn't apply under Danish law. --Valentinian T / C 21:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Image:Two2.gif
This image is not at all useful. NE2 23:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)