Commons:Graphics village pump/May 2007

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Animated GIF[edit]

Same, in 200px size.

I have uploaded an animation "Image:Snurra uppochner.gif" which does not run. It only shows the last frame. It works fine at my computer. I have checked other animated gifs on Commons and they work fine but I cannot see any difference to mine.

Same, in 120px size.

Can anybody help me? Thank you. -- message sent by ???

It work fine on your compouter with windows XP ? Vista ? With Firefox ? IE6 ?
Myself (Linux Ubuntu + firefox2) I'm also unable to see it work on this Graphic Village Pump page.
Looking at it (Image:Snurra uppochner.gif), it work fine, but I notice it is 3.7 Mo huge !!!
After some tests, it seem for me to be an internal error of displaying gif, we already had such cases (some size work, some size don't work), and it may need to repport the bug to bugzilla. (what is the complete adresse of Bugzilla wiki ??) [User:Yug|Yug]] (talk) 23:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ - to repport bugs.
The 3 animation work fine for me now, and you ? --Yug (talk) 01:08, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
It works fine for me now, too. Thank you. Yes, it is huge, unfortunatly, but I have no possibility to deliver in the ogg-format (never heard of), so it has to be gifs. Dnor 08:14, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

SVG reversion oddity[edit]

I uploaded a new version of Image:Monty open door chances.svg, but due to incompatibilities between my version of Inkscape and the original uploader's, the text got clipped (it's also using a different font). I reverted to the earlier version, and while my additions are gone again, the text remains clipped (and in a different font). What gives?--Father Goose 06:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Try clearing your cache (ctrl+r in firefox); that was likely the reason the reversion still showed up as your image. -- Editor at Largetalk 22:44, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

SVG Text problem[edit]

I'm a complete newbie when it comes to SVG. I tried to draw en:Image:Event-horizon-particle.png in Inkscape, but the text isn't showing up on WP. But when you open it back up with Inkscape, it's fine. What's wrong here? tiZom(2¢) 22:14, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

The problem svg being Image:Event-horizon-particle.svg? I think the problem may have had something to do with the text being on a path, but I am not sure. I fixed it and uploaded over the original; if it still shows up without text make sure you cleared your cache :) -- Editor at Largetalk 23:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Red eyes[edit]

I have a few pics with red eyes I want to upload. I can reduce the red in some pictures, but others may be able to do it better. I am considering uploading the image with red eye and then upload (under the same name) the corrected image, to give an opportunity to others to fix the red. Is that fine, or should I just upload the red-eyed one, tag it with {{redeye}}, and then wait until someone modifies the images? Thanks. -- ReyBrujo 19:07, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

The redeye category is not as well maintained as, for example, the rotate or remove border categories. I'd say upload the original, then your edited version over top, but still tag with {{redeye}} to see if others can do a better job. This way we have images with no redeye for the time being but you still have a chance to have a better job done with the fixing :) -- Editor at Largetalk 19:24, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
I actually thought about that, but preferred to wait until someone suggested that :) Something like Image:Simone Simons at ND Ateneo 2007 01.jpg should be fine, right? -- ReyBrujo 20:25, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that is fine; she looks human, so it is good enough! ;) A note as well; when uploading the new version over top you don't have to add the information template in the edit box, but you can use the box as a summary and put "red-eye removal" or "temp red-eye fix; if you can do it better feel free to try" or something of the sort. It's helpful for figuring out what the change was without having to open up and compare the versions. -- Editor at Largetalk 03:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Is this worth a PNG version? Should it be SVG?[edit]

Compare Sisyrinchium-mucronatum.jpg and Sisyrinchium-mucronatum.png. Is it worth keeping the PNG version? It's pretty huge, but the JPG version definitely has artifacts. Should I replace the JPGs from this site with (enormous) PNGs and request that they be vectorized? grendel|khan 22:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, i made PNG version over 50% smaller. Herr Kriss 19:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Error creating thumbnail: Invalid thumbnail parameters[edit]

After uploading a 7150 × 4310 pixel png image, file size: 1.32 MB, I get the above error message. The file is at Image:Santa-Rita-NM-1919.png. I get the same message when I try the gif version of the same file. Image:Santa-Rita-NM-1919.gif. I notice, from a Google search of Wikipedia, that others have had this problem. What can I do to make the image sizable? --Bejnar 21:55, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I cut the resolution in half (to 3000×1745 pixels) and it displayed okay. --Bejnar 22:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Very large pngs are unsupported :(

SVG cache problem[edit]

I mistakenly uploaded an SVG containing a bitmap image that I used when creating the vector graphics. I deleted the bitmap image and uploaded again, and now the image seems to display OK except on the image description page where the (now non-existent) bitmap still shows through. Purging the cache (i.e., adding ?action=purge to the URL) makes no difference. Neither does re-uploading the SVG. Is there a workaround for this?

I'd be grateful if someone could look into this for me. -- Sakurambo 00:40, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. The problem seems to have cleared all by itself. -- Sakurambo 01:34, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
That would probably be a result of someone else (I know I tried a few times) purging the thumbnail successfully, or if there were cache problems of the cache catching up. -- Editor at Largetalk
Oh, OK. Thanks for that :-) But I must have purged the cache at least a dozen times with no effect. The wiki SVG software is really quite useless sometimes... -- Sakurambo 22:59, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Note that adding "&action=purge" to the url of the page only purges the cache of the page. The thumbnail is a separate image you have to purge; for that image it is located at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Li6-D_Reaction.svg/512px-Li6-D_Reaction.svg.png . To purge the thumbnail you have to add "&action=purge" to the thumbnail url. This is how I did it and apparently it worked :) -- Editor at Largetalk 23:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Aha. I'll try that in future. Maybe someone should build this into the web interface. A big red button labelled "purge" would come in very handy :-) -- Sakurambo 13:45, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Trouble with image description page[edit]

I found an image of a picture by Ilya Repin with a better quality than the existing one in Wikipedia Commons, so I tried to replace it. The problem is that after uploading the new picture, the image description page just does not show it, as seen here [1]. But the fact is that by clicking on the empty area we can check that the picture was actually uploaded:[2]. After several attempts trying to upload it again, things continue the same way. Fortunately, all the articles which link to this picture (they’re quite a lot) show the new version normally. How could I solve this problem? Thanks for your help. J.M.Domingo 22:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I purged the thumbnail, it now shows up for me. Purge your cache and take a look :) -- Editor at Largetalk 23:49, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. :) J.M.Domingo 17:49, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Bot needed to look for JPEGs masquerading as SVGs[edit]

Here's an SVG fractal that someone uploaded recently:

File:Fractal plant.svg

The antialiasing doesn't look very good, does it? It looks even worse when you enlarge the image:

600px

In fact it isn't a vector image at all. It's just a JPEG embedded in a SVG file (which is considerably larger than the original JPEG image). You can check this for yourself if you look at the SVG source code. Obviously this defeats the whole purpose of SVG support. I wouldn't be surprised if there were other images like this lurking around. If they supersede existing images that are tagged for deletion (like in this case) then they might cause a few headaches if the deletion of superseded images is resumed. How difficult would it be for someone to built a robot to check for rogue files like this? -- Sakurambo 00:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

There atm 86908 svg images on Commons. However, this "feature" of SVG appears to be turned on recently. So I guess it is for anybody who knows a little XML not too hard to create a bot/script to collect all svgs that embed jpgs. -- Bryan (talk to me) 16:49, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
I found another one:
Derecho.svg
How do I go about building a bot/script to check for images like this? -- Sakurambo 18:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
You need to fetch all svg's from Commons. Then all svgs that contain an <image /> tag. (Technically <image /> can also embed other svgs. You can test this by the mime type that is specified in the xlink:href attribute). If necessary I can help by giving a list of all svgs. -- Bryan (talk to me) 17:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Class 309 NSE & Jaffa Cake.jpg[edit]

Can anyone explain what the problem is with Image:Class 309 NSE & Jaffa Cake.jpg? The image is definitely there (see this), but it doesn't show up properly. (Look at it in action here.) Thanks! --RFBailey 09:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Purged, works now. -- Bryan (talk to me) 17:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Excellent--thanks! --RFBailey 20:45, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Pathogenesis alcoholic liver.svg[edit]

I've created this SVG using corelDraw and inkspace, but it is not showing up. Is this a bug and can anyone please fix this? thanks.--Drriad 23:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Attempting to purge the thumbnail generates this response:
Error creating thumbnail:
(process:29738): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Unable to create ~/.gnome2 directory: No such file or directory

** (process:29738): CRITICAL **: cr_parser_new_from_buf: assertion `a_buf && a_len' failed

** (process:29738): CRITICAL **: cr_parser_set_sac_handler: assertion `a_this' failed

(process:29738): librsvg-WARNING **: Error setting CSS SAC handler


** (process:29738): CRITICAL **: cr_parser_destroy: assertion `a_this && PRIVATE (a_this)' failed

librsvg-ERROR **: _rsvg_acquire_xlink_href_resource called for external resource: pathogen-alcoholic liver2_Images\pathogen-alcoholic liver2_ImgID1.png base: (null)

aborting...
There is a problem with the file, apparently, and MediaWiki can't properly create the thumbnail. How to fix it I am not sure... -- Editor at Largetalk 00:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Apparently, this SVG image includes 8 external PNG images (pathogen-alcoholic liver2_ImgID1.png through ..._ImgID8.png) which are not embedded in it. — Xavier, 01:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I have created entirely in vector graph. dropped shadows in coreldraw, not sure whether that is interpreted as PNG. --Drriad 02:30, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
kind of half sorted. reloaded after edit. it displays now but not in a way i wished.thanks for trying to help.--Drriad 03:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Bug 5463, again.[edit]

Hello, I'm having trouble with Template:UK motorway routebox on en:, where the 150px svgs are blank images. How do I fix this? Sceptre 00:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Make them 151px. -- Editor at Largetalk 00:25, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, it worked! (and that was a quick response). Sceptre 01:17, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Or, regenerate the thumbnail: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/thumb.php?f=UK-Motorway-M11.svg&w=150 -- Bryan (talk to me) 13:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Some still aren't working even with thumbnail regeneration - see M69_motorway. Sceptre 17:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I can see it. Probably your cache? -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
That's because I replaced it with a between messages. User:Sceptre/testsvg is an example of what a 175px thumbnail looks like of the M69 sign. Sceptre 18:35, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Hevraja.JPG[edit]

Can somebody change the name of this picture? I don't know how this should be done, so I can't do it by myself. In the summery to this image you can see, that "Hevajra" was meant, so writing "Hevraja" must have happend accidentally. Thanks for your help (by hoping, that I wrote this question on the right place, sorry, if I didn't :-/) --Raven2 20:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Pages can not be renamed easily. Please follow the instructions of the {{Rename image}} template I've added to the page. — Xavier, 21:22, 30 May 2007 (UTC)