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Error with template on File:Entrepreneur's Barnstar.png

After uploading this image, I found that the template for copyright was not displaying correctly on the page. Later, a bot added that I did not have appropriate copyright information (obviously due to the fact that the tag didn't work). How do I make this template work? Quinxorin (talk) 02:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Half the page is wrapped in a nowiki tag. Remove it and clean up the templates, and it will work.--Prosfilaes (talk) 02:41, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Best way to upload books

What would be the best way to upload these two books to Commons [1][2]? They are both filled with images useful to those who are interested in geometry in art, and written by Samuel Colman who was a notable artist of his time. They are both out of copyright. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 18:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Either as PDF or as en:Djvu. I have never used the Djvu format so I can't tell you much about it. Here is a Djvu example and here a PDF example.! Amada44 (talk) 19:01, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Note that if you want the images to be usable for Commons, they need to be cut out and uploaded separately, as PNGs or JPEGs. Just uploading them as PDF or DJVU is not very useful if your goal is to make the images available--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:45, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
that is very true! thanks for your comment Prosfilaes! Amada44 (talk) 06:44, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

is my license OK?

My contributed picture is

   http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Difex.JPG

I got a nikbot telling me I got the license wrong, so I revised it, but I can't tell if it is right.

As a newbie I found the initial contribution of a picture very confusing.

I created the picture, it doesn't belong to anyone else, and I want it to be freely available to anyone to present. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MikeDunlavey (talk • contribs) 00:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons can be confusing for the new user, but this is true of every other collaborative volunteer project I have seen. For example, start a stopwatch and see how long it takes to figure out how to upload your GPS tracks to OpenStreetMap and edit the map. With all these projects, the trick is to read at least the beginner manuals (Commons:First steps) and take notes. And also find your way to the Help desk early and often. But judging from (probably) your user page on the English Wikipedia and User:MikeDunlavey/Difex Article you have more than enough experience to know that.
File:Difex.JPG lacks any license template (or categories) at the moment.
  • First we hunt for categories. The description you wrote is a bit narrow in that it might only make sense to someone specialized in the relevant field (e.g., execution of what?). To the extent possible, we should write for a general audience, by leaving enough clues to let someone without the background knowledge know where to find it. A search on Wikipedia finds the relevant term "differential execution" in the Serialization article. Presumably that's what we're talking about here. So we look for existing media files on Commons relating to that topic. There is probably a subcategory in the Category:Computing tree (or its Category:Software engineering subtree) that would contain them. For the time being I categorized your image into Category:Software engineering because I don't recognize a more specific category. If that is not an appropriate choice, you can edit the category yourself, or suggest a better one here if the syntax looks too confusing.
  • Now to the license. See Commons:Project scope, COM:L, and COM:EIC#Ctags. Your basic choices for licensing would be: {{PD-self}} if you want to put your image into the public domain and you don't care about acknowledgment from people who reuse it; or something like {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} and {{GFDL}} if you want acknowledgment. Here is how to add the latter; if you want something else, edit the image file page.
  • You uploaded a diagram as a JPEG file. {{PNG}} is a better raster format for diagrams, but SVG is an even better (vector) format for diagrams. See COM:EIC#Inkscape and Commons:Transition to SVG if you weren't busy enough already.
--Teratornis (talk) 17:27, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

File extension does not match MIME type

I keep getting the error "File extension does not match MIME type" when I try to upload a new version of a current file. It is ridiculous and I cannot seem to upload anything without getting this error. Can someone explain this to me in nonprofessional terms and tell me what to do to fix the problem? Thanks! Azcolvin429 (talk) 06:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Is this happening with a specific file only or with all files? It seems like the file you are uploading is of a type which does not correspond to the file extension. Try uploading the file to a one-click-hoster, say Rapidshare or similar, and link it here, so we can have a look at it. Regards, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 11:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
MediaWiki sometimes misidentifies the file type. If you edit or resize the image slightly, sometimes you can upload it. -- User:Docu at 18:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Here are the file/s that are having trouble:

Azcolvin429 (talk) 19:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

The first one is a large file saved as progressive jpeg. See COM:VP#Rokeby Venus by Diego Velázquez for a similar problem.
The other ones don't seem to have saved successfully. You might want to try ChrisiPK's or my suggestion above. -- User:Docu at 11:49, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Uploading a Historic Image

I would like to know if it is ok to upload an image whose copyright status is unknown. It is claimed that the photo was taken in 1902-03 and belongs to the archives of British Library. Further the photos have British Library marked on it. You may check the image on this link http://sivapicscollection.blogspot.com/2009/07/very-rare-pictures-of-hyderabad.html Regards Sarvagyana guru (talk) 10:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I can't see a problem with uploading it, as copyright has expired. Check out this chart: [3]. -- H005 Sexy Mouth transparent.png 11:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

license

Hello, I have uploaded a file made by US navy. I think the copyright statue of this work is public domain so I want someone to add a right copyright tag for this work please. --Wow123 (talk) 10:55, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Categories

Hello!

Is there a function on Commons with which you can show all pictures in a category with all pictures who are in the categorys under the main category. I mean for example I want to see all pictures in the Category:Bulgaria with the pictures in the Category:Architecture of Bulgaria at the same time in one and the same homepage? --A.Ceta (talk) 14:24, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

There are CatScan (a link on every category page left to the search box) and CatScan2 (a link on category pages can be activated through a gadget in Special:Preferences). They can be used to list files in categories and subcategories.
For the specific sample, it wont work well as Architecture has just one file and Bulgaria quite a few files that probably should go elsewhere, but, e.g. CatScan on Buildings in Bulgaria is interesting. -- User:Docu at 15:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Special Air Service

Hi the Special Air Service article is going through a [Article review] and it been mentioned that the image File:SASWings.png and the cap badge image right may not be released under GDFL. This would probably fall under PD-UK-Gov, but it might be worth checking on Commons to have it clarified. Is their anyone able to clarify if they would fall under the PD-UK-Gov ? --Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:34, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Someone might know on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. If the badge design is old enough, it might fall under {{PD-UKGov}}. The Special Air Service traces its origins to WWII but the creation date of this badge design is not clear. You might have to contact the SAS and ask. See COM:EIC#Permreq for sample permission request letters. --Teratornis (talk) 20:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Publikacja starych zdjęć

W jaki sposób opublikować stare zdjęcie, wiem kto i kiedy się na nim znajduje, wiem kto ma te zdjęcie a posiadają je 2 osoby które się na nim znajdują (każdy swoje)nie wiem kto był twórcą gdyż była to przysięga wojskowa a zdjęcie robił żołnierz, zdjęcie z przed 55 lat.

Polish to English translation from Google Translate:
  • Publication of the old photos
    • How do I post an old picture, I know who and when is it on, I know who has this picture and they have two people who are on it (each its) do not know who was the creator because it was the military oath and the picture did soldier photo from 55 years before.
Much of what Commons users have written about copyright and licensing is linked from COM:EIC#Copyright. See for example:
--Teratornis (talk) 19:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

help on my picture

Hi once again,I just uploaded a las vegas picture I took, and it's a bit fuzzy. I know it can be fixed, but I really don't have enough time right now. Could anyone fix the fuzz for me? Thanks! here's the link- File:Las_vegas_mgm_grande.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mantlewood (talk • contribs) 05:04, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

If nobody fixes it from here, you could ask on Commons:Graphics village pump. --Teratornis (talk) 06:53, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

No longer seeing the QPreview option

AFAIK my option to use the new features is on, although I am using previous skin. However I no longer see the QPreview button when editing, which I am starting to miss. Did something change? BrokenSphere 21:39, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I've never heard of this feature. You might have to ask on the Commons:Village pump since nobody here seems to know about it or what broke it for you. --Teratornis (talk) 04:03, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
He already did. Commons:Village pump#No longer seeing the QPreview option (June 3, 2010). Lupo 06:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of ""public domain" photos

A user, Moc trojan, uploaded a lot of "Public Domain" photos to Wikipedia, and I am positive the user didn't take them. All of the photos in question deals with the East Carolina University campus. None of these houses or places are found on campus or in the city of the university. I already found one of his "public domain" photos from the actual source by TinEye, but the other ones are coming up empty. The user created a couple of articles, that were deleted, and these photos were on there. What is the proper procedure to get them deleted? The photos in question are:

Thanks, 63.162.199.238 22:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

To link to articles on the English Wikipedia from Wikimedia Commons, use the {{w}} template, like this: East Carolina University. Linking to images is more readable if you use the double square bracket syntax, like this: File:Adelphic Formal.jpg. To learn about the deletion process on Wikimedia Commons, read COM:D. If you have an account on the English Wikipedia, and you want to participate much here, you can unify your account to Commons with Special:MergeAccount; see WP:SUL. --Teratornis (talk) 16:25, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I've nuked most of this user's uploads after having found many clear copyvios. Some of the remaining are on deletion requests. Lupo 14:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Correction: all uploads of User:Moc trojan nuked after I found that even the few images that I thought might have been legit turned out to be copyvios. Lupo 21:02, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Pictures on User Profile

hello everyone, I was wondering, how do you post pictures on your user profile? I've seen it on many other peoples' profiles, but I'm not sure how to do it on mine. Thanks for the help! Mantlewood (talk) 03:30, 5 June 2010 (UTC) Mantlewood

Hi Mantlewood. First of all, navigate to your userpage and click on edit. Then you can insert the image like this: [[File:Anas-strepera-001.jpg|200px]]. The number behind the image (in this case 200) controls the size of the image. If you want to have a gallery of images, use the Commons:Galleries option. Amada44 (talk) 09:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Picture tutorial may be of use. --Teratornis (talk) 08:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Also, we don't say "user profile", we say user page. To see how someone edited their user page, click the "edit" tab at the top of the page to view their wikitext, then click the "Cancel" link below the edit window to leave without changing anything. --Teratornis (talk) 08:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Broken Link

On the FAQ page there is a broken link.

This is the broken link in the section:

Can someone fix this or direct me to an alternative to this link? I really need to use this.

Azcolvin429 (talk) 03:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I think that is just an example link that you are supposed to edit with the file name of the image for which you want the thumbnail to refresh. If I understand the intent of that section correctly, then a cleaner way to present that example would be to use the {{urlencode}} magic word to URL-encode the image file name instead of asking the user to manually URL-encode it. (That's the standard method in external link templates such as {{Flickr free}}.) What image are you not able to update? Tell us the image file name and we'll show you how to edit it into the sample URL. Also note that sometimes purging the image page causes the image to update. Sometimes I have had to purge several times. --Teratornis (talk) 07:05, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
I feel stupid. I get it now. I was confused with what to do but I figured it out before even reading this. Thanks though, you still helped! :) Azcolvin429 (talk) 07:48, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
The FAQ entry could be clearer. It would be nice if we could make a form or a template or something that would let the user copy and paste a filename to generate the proper link. Instead, we currently show a link that the user is not really supposed to click on, but rather copy and edit. It's a bit confusing. When people look to the FAQ, their short term memory will typically already be occupied with the problem that led them to seek help with the FAQ. That limits a person's ability to decode any extra levels of abstraction in the FAQ entry. The FAQ entry should be as direct and simple as possible, requiring a minimum of inference and interpretation from the user. I may look at editing this FAQ entry later, if I can think of a good way. --Teratornis (talk) 19:00, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
I created a {{Regenerate thumbnail}} template which seems to work. I added a mention of it to the COM:FAQ#PURGE section. If the template is reliable enough, it could replace the manual edit method altogether. But I left the old method in place since I haven't tested the new template enough yet. --Teratornis (talk) 08:12, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Maybe even the first (sample) link could be a working one. -- User:Docu at 09:51, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
On file description pages there is currently a link "purge". As this question is somewhat frequent, we could add another for this. -- User:Docu at 11:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Licensing information for an Image already uploaded

I have found various vintage images during random Google search and would like to upload it to Wikicommons. These images are mostly about Hyderabad and as per information available on these sites, these images are atleast 100 years old. Various images by this same author and of similar vintage by other authors have already been uploaded on Wikicommons (Category:Deen Dayal & Category:Historical images of Hyderabad). However during uploading an image, I could not fill the licensing information required appropriately. This image was reportedly created in 1880. You are requested to let me know what exactly should be selected in Licensing? The image is named File:Parade Grounds, Secunderabad 1880.jpg. This image is already uploaded. Regards

Sarvagyana guru (talk) 11:18, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

See:
Possibly you can use {{PD-old}}. --Teratornis (talk) 19:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Problem with license

Can someone more knowledgeable check as I cannot see how the up-loader can release the copyright for a WWII picture. --Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC) Emile Fayolle portrait battle of britain free french RAF.jpg

In this case, the copyright status of the photo depends on: who created the photo, who owns the copyright today, where the photo was taken, and whether and when it was first published. The photo is not yet old enough for the copyright to have expired in all cases. There are lots of old photos floating around with unclear authorship, and we cannot assume they are automatically free content. Much of what Commons users have written about copyright and licensing is linked from COM:EIC#Copyright. See for example:
--Teratornis (talk) 19:22, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

deleting photos

Could someone talk me through the process for deleting a photo. Have read and followed the deletion instructions but it did not have the desired effect. Standing by for assistance, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjzavage (talk • contribs) 05:30, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Tell us what photo you want to delete, why you want to delete it, what instructions you followed, and where you got stuck. Presumably you followed COM:D. There are many possibilities depending on who uploaded the photo (you, or someone else), whether the photo is in use on any Wikimedia Foundation projects, and why you want to delete it. Depending on the cause for deletion, it may qualify for speedy deletion, or it may require discussion from the community. If the photo is heavily used, deleting it may require someone to do a lot of work to clean up damage to pages that use it. --Teratornis (talk) 08:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Your contributions show no edits under your user account before your Help desk question. If you followed the instructions in COM:D, you would have edited something, such as to put a template onto an image page requesting speedy deletion. Almost every procedure on Wikimedia Commons involves editing some page or another. --Teratornis (talk) 08:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I would like to delete the file titled, "LTG Cone Iraqi Army Pesh Federal Police.JPG". Additionally, there are three thumbnail versions of this file on this page: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LTG_Cone_Iraqi_Army_Pesh_Federal_Police.JPG - I would like all three thumbnail versions of this file deleted as well. The reason is that LTG Cone requested that I, as his representative, delete the file. Initially I had tried to follow the speedy deletion instructions by typing in {{speedydelete|reason}} but apparently I didn't type that in the right place or in the proper manner. Your patience and assistance with this are greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjzavage (talk • contribs) 07:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Its public-domain file as its the work of the US goverment, copyright wise I think we're entitled to keep it, the only reason I can see to delete it is if it endangered the safety or otherwise compromised individuals depicted in the file (the maps on the walls and documents seem to have already been censored, so I see no harm there).--KTo288 (talk) 08:59, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Right. I'll just add that we don't need these images; there's plenty of properly released images of "Robert W. Cone"/"Robert Cone" at www.dvidshub.net (site needs registration to get hi-res photos without watermarks, but registration is free; it's a U.S. Army website; the large majority of the material posted is PD-USGov (unless maybe produced by contractors, but that should be noted where it is the case)) or also at www.defenseimagery.mil, or even some at Flickr. Lupo 09:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
@Jjzavage: if there are real non-copyright reasons to remove these images, you should try to resolve the matter by contacting COM:OTRS (permissions-commons@wikimedia.org) from an official III Corps e-mail address such as Hood.PAO@conus.army.mil. Lupo 09:57, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

edit my uploaded file

I´d like to know how I can edit my text, I didn´t include a category, received a message for that, but what now? Yours sincerely, waltersch — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waltersch (talk • contribs) 13:51, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

You uploaded File:Hoar frost feathers.jpg. Click on this blue link here, then click on the "edit"-tab at the top of that page. An edit page will open. Scroll the text input area to the bottom and add "[[Category:Hoar frost]]" (without the quotes) at the end of the text. Remove the line saying "{{Uncategorized|year=2010|month=June|day=6}}" from the text. Fill in an edit summary describing your edit (something like "add category", or "categorize", or "add [[Category:Hoar frost]]") and click on the "save" button. Done. Lupo 14:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Downloading an image

How may I download a JPEG from WikiCommons, onto my desktop? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eugenevictordebs (talk • contribs) 23:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

The same as you would download an image from any Web site: browse to the image you want, right click on it, and select "Save image as..." in your Web browser. Different browsers may use different words to describe this command. On Wikimedia Commons, if the image has a large pixel size, the image page will show a lower resolution preview. If you want to download the original image size, you have to browse to it first. Some users may have trouble downloading very large images, I think, particularly over a slow Internet connection. If you want to reuse the image, see COM:REUSE. What image are you trying to download and are you having trouble? --Teratornis (talk) 03:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

OK, so I use control-click to Save image as.... & save it to my desktop, but then can't insert it in a Word file, which is what I'm trying to do. The image is at: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Salome1.jpg / Thanks for bringing me this far, anyway.

Oh wait, now I get it. I can copy image, then paste.

Threshold of originality tag

I uploaded an image on Wikipedia here, and wanted to upload it on the Commons since it does not meet the threshold of originality. However, I do not know how to upload it with this licensing. Can anyone help? Thanks. Ophois (talk) 23:57, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

The Threshold of originality article uses File:Boeing wordmark.svg as an illustration, so you could look at the image page and use the same template: {{PD-textlogo}}. --Teratornis (talk) 03:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

add contemporary artist

Wikipedia recommends to use wikimedia to upload the artist's info page.

As webmaster for artist Mimi Stuart for 12 years I consider her artwork as some of the finest. I should have done it long ago, but didn't think of it. Some of her artwork is in the permanent collection of the Smithsonian and the San Diego Air & Space Museums. How can I upload her page? I've put together the information page in accordance with the Wikipedia format and have ascertained the accuracy of all facts, but does one claim authorship for that?

Your help would be greatly appreciated. ros@mimiart.com Many thanks Theklarosi

This is Wikimedia Commons, a collection of free images. We would be happy to host any of her artwork she is willing to license under a license that freely permits the making of derivative works and commercial use. If you are looking to upload an encyclopedic article about the author, you need to go to Wikipedia, but I suggest you read and understand Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, which would strongly discourage someone with your relationship to the artist from writing that article.--Prosfilaes (talk) 16:06, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
You can request that someone else write an article on Wikipedia:Requested articles. Writing new articles from scratch on Wikipedia can be surprisingly hard for someone editing on Wikipedia for the first time, because there are so many rules for the content which is acceptable, and how to structure the articles and cite sources. The best way to learn Wikipedia editing is to start by making small edits to existing articles. For example, Wikipedia may have articles about topics that touch on Mimi Stuart's work, where the artist could be mentioned briefly. For general background please read WP:BIO, WP:BLP, WP:V, WP:RS, WP:CITE, WP:FOOT, and WP:LAYOUT. As the webmaster for the artist you could be uniquely qualified to make a list of reliable published sources about her. The limiting factor in writing Wikipedia articles is typically finding the sources we can cite. Note that the sources should be independent of the subject. See WP:RS for details. --Teratornis (talk) 06:33, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Title of file is wrong

Please move this file beacause the title is wrong, it could change the name in TLT border.jpg because I'm not able? Thanks! 87.4.69.48 19:36, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

How is that wrong? -- User:Docu at 09:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Is there a way one can download books like King Odipus? When Iread information on this site about this book I felt like reading it. Many thanks. A. Deadehwai Swaray deadehwai@gmail.com

Oedipus the King#Translations has links to the full texts of translations. Also you can ask on Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. --Teratornis (talk) 06:38, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Can anyone move the file the correct name?

I have just uploaded the file

Flyer published before Mahad Satyagraha in 1927.jpg

. I have saved it by this name mistakenly. Can anyone please move the file to the name "Flyer published before Mahad Satyagraha in 1927"? I am not able to do it. Thanks. Shivashree (talk) 04:14, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done. ZooFari 04:15, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks ZooFari. Shivashree (talk) 08:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Uploading a Screenshot, what license?

For the article Game Center, I am uploading a screenshot I took of it on my device. What license would I select when uploading? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwertywelch (talk • contribs) 10:42, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Do not upload. Game Center is not licensed under any free content license, Screenshots of non-free software aren't accepted on Commons as this project is dedicated to free content only. Free means free to use by anyone, anytime, for any purpose including commercial purposes. See Commons:Project scope#Must be freely licensed or public domain and Commons:Screenshots. --Martin H. (talk) 11:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Copyright on photo of statue

According to the rules, a photo I have taken of a statue cannot be regarded as acceptable under Creative Commons. What is the position if the statue is an old one and hence would in practice be out of copyright? And when do statues go out of copyright anyway? Jon Rob (talk) 14:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

See COM:CB#3D art (sculptures etc.), Help:Public domain, Commons:Hirtle chart, Commons:Freedom of panorama, Commons:De minimis, and other links under COM:EIC#Copyright. If you want specific advice, indicate the statue, the sculptor, its location, and age. Wikipedia:Media copyright questions may be a better place to ask if you don't get a clear answer here. A statue would go out of copyright usually 50 to 70 years after the death of the artist who created it. Varies with the country. --Teratornis (talk) 22:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Copyright length

If a Japanese publishes a work in Japan which protects copyrights for life+50years, how many years after author's death his work are protected in U.S ? life+50ys or life+70ys, which is right? (in case other conditions are not considered) In other words, if the Japanese author dies in 2000, can other people in Japan upload his work to Commons in 2051 ?--Wow123 (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I hope nothing like copyright law in its current form will still exist in 2051. By then there will be two whole generations having grown up with the technological capability to create, copy, and publish anything. Our existing copyright laws date from the days of the printing press, when only a small percentage of people had a meaningful ability to copy and publish. Copyright law is getting laughably out of step with the way most people actually use information. Maybe someday the majority will vote to legalize what they are all doing. In the meantime check the pages linked from under COM:EIC#Copyright for the legal nonsense we have to deal with now, such as Help:Public domain and Commons:Hirtle chart. --Teratornis (talk) 21:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments to notify helpful links--Wow123 (talk) 12:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Request image

I'd like to request an image of Chapel House, Twickenham, Greater London, which was occupied at one time by Alfred Lord Tennyson. Could you tell me how to do this? Thanks. 71.236.58.81 17:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. You may put your request here: Commons:Picture_requests . Amada44 (talk) 18:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
If you don't get any fast action there, you could look at images in Category:Twickenham for nearby landmarks and ask their authors if they might get around to Chapel House. For example here's a shot of York house. See the uploader's other fine work. --Teratornis (talk) 22:06, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!71.236.58.81 01:27, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

File:Wikipedia aus spieltheoretischer Sicht.pdf

Die pdf-Datei liegt im Original querformatig vor. Beim Hochladen der Datei ist diese automatisch hochformatig umgewandelt worden. Der Befehl mit "rotate|90" funktioniert bei pdf-Dateien nicht. Wie kann das Darstellungsproblem gelöst werden. --Motiko98 (talk) 12:23, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Die Datei ist ja im Hochformat, warum möchtest du sie den ins Querformat zwängen? Ich könnte es Dir schon machen nur sehe ich keinen guten Grund dazu. LG, Amada44 (talk) 14:37, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
There's definitely something funny going on about this file: the pages render in the correct orientation, but their aspect ratio is inverted. I suspect this might be a bug in the PDF handler extension. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 18:31, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
✓ Done ahh, now I got it. Its fixed! Amada44 (talk) 19:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Text really large

When I made a file in Inkscape, I put the text in a certain place, so it wouldn't overlap over items. When I uploaded the .svg to Commons, the text is larger then in the file I had on Commons. See File:Map of GDP per capita in the EU in 2007 (NUTS 3).svg, cmopared to the bitmap which was exported by Inkscape. The bitmap is how it should look. Jolly Janner (talk) 02:42, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

If you don't get a response here, try asking on Commons:Graphics village pump. --Teratornis (talk) 18:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Was considering that, but it seemed less active than here. Guess it can't have it on both ;). Thanks. Jolly Janner (talk) 23:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

File:Trolleybus in Yerevan02.JPG

Trolleybus in Yerevan02.JPG

I'm sorry, can somebody help me with this image? It should be turned on 90°. Thanks. --Ліонкінг (talk) 07:07, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that is very easy. Just add {{rotate|90}} to the image. I have done it for you (go check out the image!). You will have to wait a day until a bot turns the image. Amada44 (talk) 08:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank You very much! I agree that it is very easy, but I haven't knew it before. --Ліонкінг (talk) 09:04, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

File:Pyramide.svg

I found the pic on openclipart.org, whose pictures are released into the public domain. I chose 'I found it in Google or some other random website', and ends up with this insufficient copyright info tag. What should I do? Kayau (talk) 12:10, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Please use {{PD-OpenClipArt}} for these images--DieBuche (talk) 13:14, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thanks a million. Kayau (talk) 13:41, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Weird black box on SVG file

File:SCPA Cincinnati Map.svg looks fine in Inkscape, but renders on Commons with a weird black rectangle at the bottom. I tried uploading it as a plain SVG and vacuuming the <defs>, but those did not work. Can someone more experienced than me please take a look? Thanks. -Nasty Housecat (talk) 16:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

The mediawiki renderer has bad bugs with <flowText> elements. Removing them usually fixes those problems--DieBuche (talk) 17:32, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much! -Nasty Housecat (talk) 01:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
We have an {{OpenStreetMap}} template you can use on the image page. It has some advantages over editing the general {{Information}} template when the image is a map from OpenStreetMap. Such as automatically categorizing into Category:OpenStreetMap maps, documenting more clearly where the map came from, and maintaining consistency with our many other maps from OpenStreetMap. --Teratornis (talk) 20:16, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Diözesanbildungswerkes Limburg

Hallo, ich möchte das Logo des Diözesanbildungswerkes Limburg hochladen. Es ist z.B. im web zu sehen: http://dioezesanbildungswerk.bistumlimburg.de/index.php?_10=47b05295x6fcc1784.pdf&_0=16&sid=1e51bb3479c03fb738fad13ab7a5fc38

Ist es wie das Wappen eines Landes, des Bischofs oder wie ein Firmenlogo zu behandeln? Welche Lizenz muß ich eintragen? Ist in diesen Fällen ein beauftragter Grafiker als Autor anzugeben oder der Leiter des Bildungswerkes?

Freundliche Grüße -- Siric (talk) 23:29, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Das Logo ist komplex genug um unter die Schöpfungshöhe zu fallen. So weit ich weiß sind Bilder der Kirche unter keinem besonderen copyright, d.h. du musst wohl erst mal von den eine Erlaubniss besorgen; siehe COM:OTRS--DieBuche (talk) 14:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Wahrscheinlich wird es in der deutschen Wikipedia unter de:Vorlage:Bild-LogoSH akzeptiert. Die Regeln auf Wikipedia sind allerdings mitlerweile sehr locker, ich vermute fast, dass mit dem Baustein (der den von dem Baustein gemeinten Urheberrechtsstatus überhaupt nicht richtig anspricht) eine Form von Fair-Use in de.wp eingeführt wurde. Auf Commons sind die Regeln nicht so locker, die Schöpfungshöhe bemisst sich nicht nur nach deutschem Urheberrecht, die Schwelle zur Kreativität ist also deutlichst niedriger, und Fair-Use gibt es hier nicht. --Martin H. (talk) 13:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

images i've upload!!

Pleace! I'm a model and I've uploaded some images about my job to put what i've done and i didn't find out how to license them because it was confusing... because those images are part of my job but i'm not use to see the licenses of my portfolio. Any way i want (at least) to be able to erase them from the commons, but keeping the page i made. Thanks and if it is possible, i'd love to receive an answer in spanish to understand as best as i can, because when i look for a way to erase them everything is in english and i get confuse!!!! thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Modelemblem (talk • contribs) 00:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Your image has been deleted. I can't speak spanish. sorry. Amada44 (talk) 14:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

The "Recommended" License

The upload "your own work" form offers the recommended choice to multi-license GFDL and CC-BY-SA. I was wondering what the reason for this is, and if there is any advantage over using CC-BY-SA only. Thanks, Fletcher6 (talk) 13:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

CC-BY-SA is not compatible with the GFDL; in general, any two copyleft licenses aren't compatible. If you want users working on GFDL materials to be able to use your images, you need to license it under the GFDL. I don't believe that the GFDL is strictly more restrictive than CC-BY-SA, but in practice the only thing to be concerned about with the multi-license is that it means that your work can end up as part of a GFDL-only work that can't be taken back as CC-BY-SA.--Prosfilaes (talk) 14:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
COM:L#Multi-licensing sort of explains this. It seems to imply that when you license your work under multiple licenses, anyone is free to re-use your work to make derivative works with any combination of the licenses you specified. --Teratornis (talk) 18:35, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
As Wikipedia has transitioned away from GFDL, are there other major projects out there still reliant on GFDL? I don't mind multi-licensing, just wondering if it has much practical benefit now that Wikipedia is CC-licensed. Thanks for your comments. Fletcher6 (talk) 20:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Lots of software projects are licensed under the GFDL. Someone might want to reuse media from Commons in a GFDL-licensed software project. Generally speaking, people are numerous and diverse, and you never know what someone might think of doing in the future. Multi-licensing seems to provide maximum flexibility for people with needs we cannot predict. --Teratornis (talk) 20:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Ok thanks; I'll continue multi-licensing. Fletcher6 (talk) 22:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
@Teratornis: are you sure you don't mean the GPL? Or are you talking about software documentation? I have never seen the GFDL applied to software, with the exception of some of our very own JavaScripts, which are GFDL by virtue of having been uploaded to WMF projects. Lupo 22:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, what was I thinking. --Teratornis (talk) 04:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I forgot to add, thanks for catching my error. --Teratornis (talk) 08:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Commonist

Bei der Extraktion werde ich für eine Datei "$$EXIF$anonfun$commonist$.." zu einer Kennworteingabe aufgefordert. Was für ein Kennwort? Fingalo (talk) 14:41, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I have not used Commonist, but Commons:Tools/Commonist#General upload settings mentions how to enter your username and password for the Wikimedia wiki to which you are uploading. If you have already set that up, then I don't understand the problem. --Teratornis (talk) 04:59, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Das gilt für das Hochladen von Dateien. Bei mir geht es um das Entpacken der herungergeladenen ZIP-Datei. Fingalo (talk) 14:45, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Is this the file you downloaded? It unpacks just fine for me, without asking for any password. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 21:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Bei mir aber: Siehe hier Fingalo (talk) 09:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

That's... weird. The only possible explanations I can think of are that either a) the file you downloaded got corrupted somehow, or b) there's a bug in the Windows ZIP extractor. You could check the file's integrity using md5sum -b: mine says e80a5544fd888487f165305c2c01f599. If the file isn't corrupted, try downloading a third-party ZIP extractor (like WinZip or 7-Zip) and see if that'll help. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 15:46, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Непомеченные!

Привет! Почему в моей галерее пишет "непомеченные"? Italic (talk) 03:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The "untagged" images have no license templates on their file pages.
See COM:L, Commons:Copyright tags, Commons:Image copyright tags, Commons:Image copyright tags visual, and Commons:Creative Commons copyright tags. --Teratornis (talk) 04:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Uploading Collage

I've created a collage from files available at commons to be uploaded and used in a specific article. Tried doing so using Derivative FX to get the licensing straight, but there seemed to be a problem with the program. I guess that's been fixed, but now I don't remember how I got there! Ok, so where's the button/program, and are there other options to get help with getting the licenses and sources right when uploading a collage? Thnx & regards, --G-41614 (talk) 08:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The upload with "It is a derivative work of a file from Commons" in Commons:Upload works, the tool tells you that you are not logged in, but that a bug possibly, it will work, just ignore the error. Please dont forget to indicate every source and author of the images used in the collage/montage, see Commons:Collages. --Martin H. (talk) 13:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

New message alarm

When user gets a new message from the other users, the color of new message alarm is yellow now. How can I change this color to white or transparent color ?--Wow123 (talk) 11:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

It might be possible with some user JavaScript or CSS. See the links under WP:EIW#Custom. If you don't get an answer here, and don't see the answer in the manuals, try asking on the Wikipedia:Help desk. Lots of people over there monkey around with their customization. --Teratornis (talk) 08:31, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Uploading the image of a stamp

Hi

I am trying to define a stamp catalog. I scan the stamp and want to upload it.

I do not understand what license I am supposed to use

LOawrence

This depends on the country the stamps are from and the year they were made. Take a look at Commons:Stamps to find out more. Current stamps will often be copyright protected and may not be uploaded here. --rimshottalk 06:22, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
I was pointed to this PD-Libya which seems to indicate that for Libyan stamps I can upload freely. If that is the case, then how to enter the license when I do the upload? Or how do I change an existing image that I uploaded?Lbigfoot (talk) 15:35, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
You can edit the image page just like any other page, by clicking "edit". The template does not mention stamps specifically, so we must assume that the the conditions mentioned there hold for stamps as well. As most stamps will be artistic in nature, that would be: ... more than twenty five years have elapsed since the year of authors death and fifty years have elapsed since the year of publication. Stamps might be public domain, but I really couldn't find any evidence for that. Stamps appear to be issued by GPTC, so you might get some information from them. --rimshottalk 06:12, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Freigabe

Woran erkenne ich, wann ein hochgeladenes Bild von Commons geprüft und freigegeben worden ist? --Xynndra (talk) 09:56, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Der Prozess ist, dass der Uploader die Datei hochlädt und sie, wenn sie schonmal Andernorts veröffentlicht wurde, mit {{OTRS pending|year=2010|month=June|day=17}} markiert, diese Vorlage steht im Upload-Formular, und die schriftliche Freigabe ans OTRS weiterletet. Damit ist kenntlich gemacht, dass eine schriftliche Freigabe des Urhebers besteht. Wenn die Freigabe beim OTRS angekommen ist und geprüft wurde - das kann etwas dauern, es handelt sich auch dort um die Arbeit von freiwilligen Mitarbeitern - wird der OTRS-Mitarbeiter die Freigabe entsprechend auf der Bildbeschreibungsseite kenntlich machen, hierzu wird er die Vorlage {{PermissionOTRS}} verwenden. An der Verwendung dieser Vorlage erkennst du, ob die Freigabe erfolgt ist. Zudem bekommst du eine Antwort auf deine Email. --Martin H. (talk) 13:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
So und so geht's nicht. Habe die "permission missing"-Bausteine erstmal wieder eingesetzt. --Martina Nolte (talk) 18:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Javascript help

Hello,

I've added a link for computers without javascript on Template:Category tree.

But I think it would be best to add some code in order to keep this hidden for computers which have javascript enabled.

Does anyone knows how to do this ? Teofilo (talk) 11:33, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Should work now. You need to clear your cache though--DieBuche (talk) 11:50, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Disabled again. What's the easiest way to check whether div[id=CategoryTree] exists on the page?--DieBuche (talk) 11:57, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
In JavaScript? if (document.getElementById ('CategoryTree')) { /* Whatever */ } Lupo 12:08, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
P.S.: Please follow the serious advice given when you edit MediaWiki:Common.js: Template:Editnotices/Pages/MediaWiki:Common.js. Adding untested stuff to MediaWiki:Common.js is an absolute no-no. Lupo 12:11, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Stamp Images

Hi

I want to create a stamp catalog. I own all the stamps that I want to catalog. I want to scan and display them on Wiki.

What do I do about license? Is it better to load to Picassa and link?

Lbigfoot (talk) 12:05, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

For start, see #Uploading the image of a stamp above. -- User:Docu at 15:23, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Welche Lizenz ist richtig?

Ein netter älterer Herr hat mir gestattet, Scans seines Fotoalbums zu machen und diese in der WP zu verwenden. Teilweise stammen die Fotos von ihm, teilweise aus Familienbesitz (von seinem Vater bzw. Verwandten geerbt). Ein OTRS-Ticket werde ich von ihm wohl nicht bekommen, da er mit Computern nichts am Hut hat. Name und Anschrift bekannt, anderswo würde ich schreiben: "Mit freundlicher Genehmigung von ..." Wie also diese Bilder korrekt lizensieren? TIA, Markscheider (talk) 17:49, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Zur Lizenz: Unter der Lizenz, die der Rechteinhaber gewählt hat, einer freien Lizenz zustimmen muss dein Kontakt auf jeden Fall. Zur Freigabe: Besteht die Möglichkeit, eine kurze schriftliche Freigabe zu erreichen und diese ebenfalls zu scannen und an COM:OTRS zu senden oder einfach mit kurzer Erläuterung per Post an Wikimedia zu schicken, die die Freigabe dann digital im OTRS archivieren können? Beachte, dass eine Freigabe zur Nutzung 'in der WP' nicht ausreichend ist, siehe die Vorlage zur Einveständnisserklärung. Diese Standardvorlage sollte verwendet werden und kann natürlich von dir freundlicher/weniger formell umformuliert werden um z.B. die wunderbare Absicht deines Vorhabens - die Erhaltung und Weitergabe historischer Aufnahmen - hervorheben. Zuletzt, da es hier Regelmäßig Löschanträge dazu gibt, bitte keine oder nur ein Minimum an Fotos von Familienfeiern, Einschulungsportraits, Hochzeitsfotos und der gleichen mehr sofern die Bilder nicht z.B. von wirklich exzellenter Qualität sind oder relevante Personen der Zeitgeschichte darstellen. --Martin H. (talk) 23:16, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Template syntax help

Hi, I am working on the template {{Taxasource}}. This template uses {{PAGENAME}} to construct a link to an external web site.
Exemple: on page Category:Botaurinae, the template creates a link named "ADW" to http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/search?category=Classification&SearchableText=Botaurinae.
It works perfectly except on pages like Trias (Orchidaceae).
My question: is there a way to automatically transform the {{PAGENAME}} containing "Trias (Orchidaceae)" into "Trias" (simply getting read of the "(Orchidaceae)" part)?
Exactly as the en:Help:Pipe trick does transform [[g (factor)|]] into [[g (factor)|g]] (but trick is done by wiki save mechanism + only for internal links, not in templates).

Any idea, who could help me ? A wikisyntax master ? Liné1 (talk) 11:33, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
One way would be to generalize the template with an optional input item for the species name, which if blank would default to the pagename. Then for pages that have names that have extra characters after the species name, you would call the template with the species name you want. See Help:Magic words and mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions. To do this automatically would require the mw:Extension:StringFunctions which I don't think is implemented on Wikimedia Foundation wikis such as Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 18:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
See for example Template:Commons category which generates a link that defaults to the page name on the English Wikipedia as the link destination category on Commons, but allows for the user to override the category name and the displayed link text. Since there are so many possible exceptions in page names, it is probably best not to try to get too cute with the template code, but just let the user manually override whatever does not work automatically. --Teratornis (talk) 22:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Currency

I want to upload a few high resolution scans of paper money including New Turkish lira, New Iraqi Dinnar and Iranian rial? What's the license on these images and am I allowed to upload them? ~ Zirguezi 22:01, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

See Commons:Currency. --Teratornis (talk) 22:25, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm afraid Iran and Iraq are not listed. ~ Zirguezi 23:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Most if not all listings on that page cite either the copyright law of a country, or a statement from its central banking authority. You can try the following:
  • Ask on Commons talk:Currency. And read the existing discussion to get an idea of how other Commons users have researched this for other countries.
  • Contact the central banks of Iran and Iraq to find out the copyright status of their currency.
  • Look on their official government Web sites for the relevant section of their copyright statutes.
  • Ask an attorney.
  • Look for existing images of currency from Iran and Iraq on Commons and see how it is licensed. That doesn't necessarily prove the licensing is correct, but it might shed some light. Start with the Iraqi dinar and Iranian rial articles on the English Wikipedia. It looks like the Iraqi dinar image on the English Wikipedia is under a fair use rationale. That won't do on Commons.
Somebody had to be the first Commons user to figure out each existing entry on the page so far. --Teratornis (talk) 10:05, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

How can I verify that the author authorized his/her image to be uploaded in Commons?

If I want to download an image, and it is under copyright the best way is that I should send the author of the image an email in order to ask if I can upload it to Commons. It wouldn't matter if he/she declines it. But if the author grants me to upload the image, how can verify to wikipedia o the person in charge of commons who makes sure that every image has a correct copyright tag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daffy123 (talk • contribs) 05:03, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

See COM:OTRS ~ Zirguezi 09:25, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Urheberrecht Foto

Genügt es, wenn mir der Urheber eines Fotos schriftlich erklärt, dass er auf seine Urheberrechte verzichtet? Ihm die Einzelheiten der Lizenzen zu erklären, würde ihn überfordern. Oder gibt es eine andere kurze Erklärung des Urhebers, mit der ich das Foto in Wikipedia einbringen kann. Es handelt sich um das Foto eines vor über 20 Jahren verstorbenen Malers, über den ein Wikipedia-Titel handelt. Um das Foto will ich eine ältere Dame angehen, die vermutlich Fotos von ihm gemacht hat, doch muss ich von vornherein wissen, was ich brauche, um das Foto in Wikipedia veröffentlichen zu können. Für Hilfe danke ich im voraus.--Agnostizi (talk) 09:15, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

See COM:OTRS (or Commons:OTRS/de) and COM:EIC#Permreq. --Teratornis (talk) 19:20, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Syntax - Userboxes

Could someone please fix my User page? The section "Userboxes" — "Promotions" is messed up with {{User}} and it is too small. Also, I would like to have it centered.

Thanks! --Mattes (talk) 12:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Confused about licensing status of this image

Hello. I was going to upload a map of the U.S. solar energy resource potential (http://www.nrel.gov/gis/images/map_pv_national_lo-res.jpg) from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Renewable_Energy_Laboratory to use for some solar articles on the English Wikipedia, but I got confused when I read their copyright policy (http://www.nrel.gov/disclaimer.html). I understand that most works produced by the federal government of the United States are public domain, but it seems like NREL is operated (under contract) for the U.S. Department of Energy by a private company. I read their copyright policy, but I have to admit I don't understand what they're saying. Are their works under a license (or public domain) that allows me to upload them here to Commons? I'd appreciate any help. TimeClock871 (talk) 19:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

See the other images in Category:National Renewable Energy Laboratory (including the similar File:Direct normal solar radiation 2004.jpg) which are generally under {{PD-USGov}}. --Teratornis (talk) 20:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I see. So I should avoid uploading anything from NREL until this is settled? TimeClock871 (talk) 20:28, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
It appears to me that all NREL files are unfree. I wouldn't upload them. -Nard (Hablemonos)(Let's talk) 20:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I understand. Thanks for the help. TimeClock871 (talk) 20:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
The EERE publishes some material from NREL and says "Materials on the EERE Web site are in the public domain." For example, see the EERE renewable energy resource maps. The EERE site features lots of images (such as this solar energy map) which say "NREL" on them. If you want to upload something from NREL, see if the EERE has published it on their site. If not, then maybe you can draw your own diagram to present the same data. --Teratornis (talk) 21:38, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Logo d'une entreprise, fait par un graphiste

Bonjour, Je voudrais mettre le logo de l'entreprise sur laquelle j'écris sur Wikipedia. Il s'agit d'un logo créé par un graphiste mais dont l'entreprise a les droits. Comment dois-je remplir le formulaire (quel type de licence?) pour mettre l'image en ligne? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloclom (talk • contribs) 12:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

See COM:OTRS (or Commons:OTRS/fr), and Commons:Image casebook#Trademarks. The first step is to establish whether the logo contains copyrightable design elements. A simple text-only logo that uses a standard font may be trademarked, but not under copyright protection (see for example File:Boeing wordmark.svg which is too simple to be copyrighted). If the logo does meet the threshold of originality (fr:Seuil d'originalité), the copyright owner must release the logo under a free license if you want to upload a copy of it to Commons. See COM:OTRS and COM:EIC#Permreq. Also note that we have a French-language Help desk at Commons:Service d'aide. --Teratornis (talk) 20:48, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

how to get website for reference purposes

i want to know how i can get website for reference purposes, when i want to use information from Wikipedia. for example i once used i graph, Solow's growth model under classical and neo-classical economists but i faced problems in obtaining the source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.21.104.253 (talk • contribs) 17:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 21:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

How to contact a contributor

How do I get in touch with Raysonho, one of your contributors? <email address removed to prevent spam> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.251.73.145 (talk • contribs) 18:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

You can contact users on their talkpages or, if they have enabled the function, you can write them an email (that requires an account and activation of the email function for your own account). --Martin H. (talk) 20:53, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) See Help:Talk page and Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Collaborating with Other Editors/Communicating with Your Fellow Editors. You can leave a message at User talk:Raysonho or send an e-mail message at Special:EmailUser/Raysonho (although you must create an account and log in before you can send an e-mail to a Commons user this way). --Teratornis (talk) 21:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Is this photo of TV set/game console safe to upload?

I took a photo[4] of a old TV set and video-game console, but I am worried it might have copyright problems due to the image on the screen. Does anyone know if I can upload it? Matthew Paul Argall (talk) 22:17, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Imo it is de minimis enough. --Martin H. (talk) 00:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
OK, I'll upload it then Matthew Paul Argall (talk) 15:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Rename image

Is there a way to rename http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Viking-boats-2.jpg to Viking boat? Joe Chill 2 (talk) 01:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but we try not to rename files because of all the links. In this case, I don't see the new name as much of an improvement; we should have lots of images of Viking boats. A new name should be unique.--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Have a look at Category:Media requiring renaming & {{rename}}. The process is not complex, though fiddly, so we try to keep it to where it adds value. See the criteria for what we are happy to rename.  — billinghurst sDrewth 08:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
There is also Commons:FAQ#How can I rename/move an image or other media file? -- User:Docu at 12:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

[[5]] Is this okay to upload? I am beginning a Trackers Task Force and I want to know if I can use the logo. The 39 Clues logo was okay to use from the mediaroom, so shouldn't I be able to use this image? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hidividedby5 (talk • contribs) 19:16, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

If you refer to File:39CluesTaskForceLogo.png that looks like an unrelated case - the uploader claims the image does not meet the Threshold of originality, making it a derivative work of an image in the public domain. The site of publication is incidental. The Tracker logo does not appear to be based on any public domain image, and it might meet the threshold of originality for logos based on its artistic elements. See Commons:Image casebook#Trademarks, COM:EIC#Permreq, and COM:OTRS. You may want to read a few more manuals before starting a task force here. The success rate of new initiatives on Commons or the Wikipedias is not particularly high. The more knowledge you have of the manuals, and the more experience with uploading and editing on Commons, the better your chances of guessing what other Commons users might want to collaborate on. --Teratornis (talk) 21:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you!!! I will upload the image to Wikipedia. Hidividedby5 (talk) 11:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Labeled image needs correcting

I really appreciate having access to this labeled map of the counties of California, but one of the county names is misspelled: it's "San Bernardino", not "San Bernadino" (which is how it's pronounced). I'm not sure how to flag this or bring it to someone's attention. Thanks! Ueblay (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

You can download the source file. Open it in a text editor, change the spelling and upload it. -- User:Docu at 12:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Tried to do that, but the way it's formatted, it doesn't seem to work.
The general page would be File talk:California_county_map_(labeled).svg, but it's unlikely to be followed. If the uploader was active, I'd use his talk page. In this case, maybe Commons:Graphic Lab is the best place. -- User:Docu at 12:42, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
It's fixed now, using Inkscape. - Erik Baas (talk) 14:47, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

File:En-ca-about.ogg

There's something wrong with this file. For the first thing, no one says "a boot". The initial upload was right. But I can't seem to revert it. No matter what I do, I can't get it to play the right sound. —Internoob (Talk · Cont. · Wikt) 18:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

In the file history, the top one is always "a boot", no matter what I revert it to. —Internoob (Talk · Cont. · Wikt) 18:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Which version do you want: The 1,6 seconds one or the 0,4s one?--DieBuche (talk) 19:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
The 1.6 seconds one. Although the one at the top of the file history says its 1.6 seconds, it's really the 0.4 seconds one. —Internoob (Talk · Cont. · Wikt) 22:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I cleaned up the history & the one I'm hearing now is the longer version, where you hear a mouseclick on the end. If your still hearing the wrong one, its got to be some kind of cache problem. Try to empty your browser cache & the java-cache (in case your using the java version to listen) --DieBuche (talk) 22:48, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
It's working now. I had to delete my browser's temporary files. I thought I cleared the cache before, but maybe that wasn't enough. Thanks. —Internoob (Talk · Cont. · Wikt) 00:43, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Translation tool

Please take a look at Commons:Village_pump#Translation_tool and give any feedback if possible. Δ 18:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

What happened?

Looking at http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Insect_External_Morphology.jpg&action=history, MiPE tried three times to upload this with Flickr upload bot. I tried to upload it once with Flickr upload it. It didn't work any of the times. Is this fixable or should I notify the bot owner? Joe Chill 2 (talk) 02:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

For some reason the flickr bot is unable to upload it. There is a bug that sometimes (1 of 1000 jpgs) happens when the jpg as some symbols within the first 1024 bites or so - Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2010Feb#Upload problem - I like to blame that bug for such problems ;) In such cases please download the original size from flickr and upload it manually. --Martin H. (talk) 13:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Quoting a diagram

I'd like to add a diagram to a Wikipedia article. It is from a book, and it is labelled boxes and circles connected with errors [Edit: arrows, of course ^^]. I do not want to upload an image or screenshot of that diagram, but I built my own similar to the original. I assume it to be somewhat closer to a citation than to an image, but I am not exactly sure about its status. Any help is welcome. Thanks, --Morton Shumway (talk) 23:55, 21 June 2010 (UTC).

See COM:DERIV and Threshold of originality. If you drew a diagram, you may upload it as your own work as long as it is not too similar to the copyrighted original. Since you have not shown us the two diagrams, we cannot guess whether your diagram is original enough. If you traced an exact copy of the original diagram, preserving layout and other graphic elements, then you would have made a derivative work and you could not upload it to Commons without permission from the original author. But if you rearranged the diagram, used different fonts, sizes, shapes, and colors, then your work could meet the threshold of originality. See Idea-expression divide. The appearance of the diagram is copyrightable (the expression), but the underlying relation between entities that the diagram represents is not copyrightable (the idea). Of course if the book is old enough, it could be out of copyright and then even a faithful reproduction or scan would be acceptable on Commons. See Help:Public domain. --Teratornis (talk) 01:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I will see what I can do. Best, --Morton Shumway (talk) 14:42, 22 June 2010 (UTC).
So, I would like to show you the two diagrams, do I just upload them or is there a special procedure? --Morton Shumway (talk) 21:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC).
Since we don't know if they would meet the licensing requirements on Commons, you could upload them to one of the many File hosting service or Photo sharing sites like Flickr, which have a much more casual approach to copyright violations (generally they put the burden of proof on the copyright holders to report violations), and post the links. --Teratornis (talk) 06:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Great, thanks, please get the two files here: http://ifile.it/6du2jr1 --Morton Shumway (talk) 12:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC).
I am not a lawyer but it looks to me as if you changed the artistic elements enough to meet the threshold of originality. You might ask for more opinions on Wikipedia:Media copyright questios, referencing this discussion. --Teratornis (talk) 21:25, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Big thanks for the technical support! --Morton Shumway (talk) 12:34, 27 June 2010 (UTC).

Changing Photos

I absolutely HATE the photo that was posted on Whitney Houstons page, is there someway to change it to something more flattering? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WhiteFlowerLei76 (talk • contribs)

Next time you meet her, take a picture and upload it to Category:Whitney Houston (currently 4 images). -- User:Docu at 12:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Better yet, contact her (or her people) and let her know an unflattering picture is on Wikipedia. Maybe she will donate a good free flattering image. Wknight94 talk 03:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
What's wrong with the image in the Whitney Houston article? It probably reflects how Ms. Houston appeared on stage to the audience that evening. This is much better than some candid photograph taken when the performer had no expectation of being seen. She doesn't look as good today as she did 20 years ago, but that's true of most people when they hit middle age. --Teratornis (talk) 01:41, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

FP link

I'm trying to add the English FP nomination link to File:Deepwater Horizon oil spill - May 24, 2010.jpg, but when I add "|enwiki=1", the link doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 14:51, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Add what to what? Show us the diff. Link to the instructions you are trying to follow. --Teratornis (talk) 01:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Mmmk. I'm trying to add the English FP nomination link (it was promoted) to the FP template {{Assessments|com=1}} that's below the File:Deepwater Horizon oil spill - May 24, 2010.jpg description. (example) The link doesn't work when I preview my edit. (no diffs since it's a preview) AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 02:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
After some poking around I found the {{Assessments}} template generates by default a link to the nomination page on the English Wikipedia:
that disagrees with the actual page name there:
Fortunately the template documentation says:
  • For com and all XXwiki parameters there is an additional parameter com-nom or XXwiki-nom that can provide the nomination page (if it doesn't follow the standard scheme. (...)
So the required wikitext on the Commons image page appears to be:
  • {{Assessments|com=1|enwiki=1|enwiki-nom=Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Deepwater Horizon oil spill - May 24, 2010.jpg}}
which I added. --Teratornis (talk) 22:12, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. :-) AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 22:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
For future reference, if you preview a template and it doesn't work, you could save your change anyway, and revert it. Then when you ask for help you could present the diff that did not work, and helpers could find the problem faster. Reverting the test edit would avoid leaving a broken template on the page in the meantime. --Teratornis (talk) 02:11, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Zdjęcie z anglojęzycznej Wikipedii

Co z licencją grafiki, która jest, lecz tylko na anglojęzycznej Wikipedii, a której nie ma na polskiej? Jak mam ją przesłać? Przykładem jest: Pro7-Logo.svg ze strony [[6]].

See WP:MITC. If the image on the English Wikipedia is within the Commons:Project scope, then someone can move it to Commons. Incidentally, I do not think the fair use rationale was necessary for en:File:Pro7-Logo.svg, because the logo is so simple that I do not believe it meets the threshold of originality and thus cannot be copyrighted. See COM:CB#Trademarks. Perhaps it could be under the license {{PD-shape}} and {{Trademark}}. --Teratornis (talk) 01:50, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Carolina the Queen

Carolina is amazing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leximax911 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 24. June 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure your right. Is there something the users of wikipedia commons can help you with? J.smith (talk) 21:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I need help

Hello, everyone. I know this is probably explained in the Commons guidelines, and that it is irritating when users ask you again to explain something about it. I asked this an administrator, but he told me that he is very busy in this moment, and I fully understand it. So I'll repeat the question I sent him:

Hi! I often moving images from the Serbian and the English Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons. I mainly use CommonsHelper. Even though I am administrator on the Serbian Wikipedia, I am a little confused with a licenses here. I read a few instructions, but my English is not excellent, and also the instructions are not so understandable. I like to do things well, so the other people don't have to clean after me. In addition, people often ask me for advice, because they are confused with the same thing. So I would be grateful if you could explain to me this. When I transfer the image with {{GFDL}} license, which license should I put here? Just {{cc-by-3.0}} or some dual licence? The same question applies to the following licenses: {{GFDL-self}}, {{GFDL-user}}, {{GFDL-user-w}}, and pictures with dual licence on Wikipedia ({{GFDL}} and {{cc-by-3.0}}). CommonsHelper don't do this things, so I have to manually fix the licenses. For example: this and this picture, and also this picture (these are just examples). Thanks in advance. All the best!

I forgot to say that I totally respect your time so you do not have to answer me immediately. Pictures will not escape anywhere. I often get the same questions again and again, so I know how it can be tiresome to constantly answer the same questions.

I hope you understand what confuses me, because my English is bad. Thank you. mickiτ 06:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. I am not 100% sure but I think that {{GFDL|migration=relicense}} would be the best to use. This will add {{GFDL}} and {{cc-by-3.0}}. Amada44  talk to me 10:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


  • {{GFDL}} ---> {{GFDL|migration=relicense}}
  • {{GFDL-self}} ---> {{Self|GFDL|migration=relicense}}
  • {{GFDL-user}} ---> {{GFDL-user|USERNAME|sr|migration=relicense}}
  • pictures with dual licence on Wikipedia ({{GFDL}} and {{cc-by-3.0}} ---> {{GFDL}} and {{cc-by-3.0}}
  • {{cc-by-3.0}} ---> {{cc-by-3.0}}


You mean like this? mickiτ 12:06, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I have corrected the table a bit. I am a bit unsure about point 4. Maybe someone else can give a comment on that ;-) Amada44  talk to me 15:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. mickiτ 15:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Migration relicense yields cc-by-sa-3.0, not the cc-by-3.0. Nyttend (talk) 00:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

File:JoyTiz.jpg

Some days ago i've uploaded the file JoyTiz.jpg with full permission from the owner. Why was it deleted? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sevi18 (talk • contribs)

It's noted here: Special:Log. To confirm permission, proceed per Commons:OTRS#If_you_need_to_confirm_permission and add {{OTRS pending}} to the file. -- User:Docu at 13:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

how do I link my photo in Commons to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenticular_cloud

the photo resides at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lenticularis_cloud_above_gletscher_Skaftafell_Iceland_26jun05.JPG
and I want it to visible at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenticular_cloud in the gallery

HOW DO I DO THAT?

please some help

Jos van Damme josvandamme@chello.nl

Dag Jos. Ik heb het even voor jou gedaan en als je hier klikt dan zie je hoe. Groet. Lycaon (talk) 20:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
There is already a Lenticularis gallery on Commons, and Lenticular cloud#External links links to it. See the links under COM:EIC#Gallery. Galleries on Commons can grow to any size, but on the Wikipedias sometimes users do not want galleries to become "too large" (whatever that means). --Teratornis (talk) 21:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Sometimes Wikipedia users complain that large image galleries make articles load too slowly over slow Internet connections. Linking to larger galleries on Commons avoids this problem, as only people who want to see the photos will load them. --Teratornis (talk) 21:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect image title

The file File:Hellas Planatia by the Viking orbiters.jpg should lie at File:Hellas Planitia by the Viking orbiters.jpg (Planatia → Planitia). Thanks in advance. --Harald Khan Ճ 21:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

See COM:FAQ#MOVE. --Teratornis (talk) 21:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Advice page for creating featured pictures?

I'm interested in trying to take FP-quality pictures of architecture, but I can't find any guidance on reaching FP quality other than that found at Commons:Featured pictures. Is there an FAQ page for creating FPs, with pointers specifically aimed at trying to pass FP standards? I wanted to ask those who have taken FP-quality architecture pictures, but virtually all of the ones I looked at have been inactive here at Commons for many months. Nyttend (talk) 00:08, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

If any such instructions exist, we would like to list them in the Editor's index to Commons. In there already I see:
Also see links under COM:EIC#Photo and COM:EIC#Image, and look in the Editor's index to Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 02:20, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
You might ask on Commons:Graphics village pump which might be read by more people who could answer the question. Maybe en:Wikipedia:Graphic Lab. --Teratornis (talk) 03:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Funny, I've been here at Commons since 2006, and an en:wp admin since 2007, but I'd never known that there was an editor's index at either site. I'll ask at the graphics VP; since I don't expect any of my photos to be FP-quality, I'd like to ask how best to improve my photo-taking. Thanks for the pointers! Nyttend (talk) 05:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Your Wikipedia experience pre-dates both index pages. By the time the index pages appeared, you probably had established your work habits and knew other ways to look things up without them. Similarly, I can't imagine what problem the new Vector skin is supposed to solve, since I already know how to do what I need in Monobook. However, I think the Editor's index pages actually add value. --Teratornis (talk) 21:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

bulk loading

Hello, I have an offer of nearly 1800 quality images - licenses ckecked! - that can be moved to Commons from Flickr. Can someone offer a pointer as to how to organise this? Some extra cataloguing may be required. I estimate that 98% of these will be relevant to our project. I dis look at "upload file" but I could nt see a link for bulk loading. Victuallers (talk) 11:05, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. It's at Commons:Batch uploading. -- User:Docu at 11:07, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Also see the links under COM:EIC#Flickr. --Teratornis (talk) 21:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Such as Commons:Tools/Flickrripper, which I have not tried myself yet. --Teratornis (talk) 02:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Move this file

Hi, I have uploaded an optimized version of File:Brunswick-Stop-80s-time.jpg. Its at File:Brunswick-Stop-80s-time_edit.jpg. Please move the file. And when will I get rights to do this? Thanks. Finemann (talk) 07:23, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't really need moving. Unless there is some controversy, you could just edit en:MC Hammer and replace the original with the edited version. -- User:Docu at 07:26, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

uploading new images

How can I upload a new picture into an existing file?

Thank you

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Maria-kh (talk • contribs)

As a new editor you can't and, in general, you shouldn't. Use another filename instead.
If you are trying to upload an improved version of the original file, you can use the "It is a derivative work of a file from Commons" option on the upload page. -- User:Docu at 11:05, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

SVG text different after upload

I uploaded this image: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RGBTriples.svg

On my computer (using Inkscape), the text is "(R,G,B)". You can see that when it was uploaded, it changed to "(,,)RGB". Anyone know why this would happen?

Thanks,

Daviddoria (talk) 13:06, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Looks like a problem with the rendering engine, since the raw SVG file displays correctly for me in Firefox: [7]. Powers (talk) 13:19, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
After perusing some documentation, it looks like the problem may be the <tspan> element. You have the "R", "G", and "B" enclosed in <tspan> tags, all within another <tspan> tag for the whole text. Firefox and Inkscape appear to treat those nested <tspan> tags differently than the MediaWiki renderer does. (Since <tspan> is used to make the placement of the text inside relative to the previous <tspan> element, it looks like MediaWiki is moving those nested tags outside of the parent <tspan>.) As a guess, I would try changing those <tspan>s to <span>s, but that's just a wild guess. Powers (talk) 13:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Attributing image

I see that "You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work)."

I am trying to use this image: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RGB.svg

in a book for GlobalText (http://globaltext.terry.uga.edu/). What do I need to do as far as citing the image?

Thanks,

Daviddoria (talk) 13:20, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

That image is in the public domain and no citation is necessary. Powers (talk) 13:30, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
I would think that the Global Text Project must have re-used lots of free content from other sources by now, and should have internal documents explaining how to comply with the licensing terms of such sources. (If those instructions on the Global Text Project site are not clear, maybe you could clarify them.) I've seen other wikis that re-use content from Wikipedia and Commons, and the basic approach is just to duplicate the same licensing templates used here, with links back to the original image pages here. See COM:REUSE. --Teratornis (talk) 02:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

HELP using photos

Hi, I cannot figure out how to use the ...commons in order to use a photo. In the past so many photos were useable by just giving (Photo/wiki) as a credit, not so now?

I've been forced to hunt for photos elsewhere, but you made it so easy.

Maybe it is still easy, but I can't figure it out. Help please, thanks. deb smith ford debsford@gmail.com

"Photo/wiki" was never (!!!) a sufficient credit, "wiki"/Wikipedia or Wikimedia doesnt own any copyrights here. All photographs on Commons are free to reuse anywhere for any purpose as long as you follow the license requirements. See Commons:Reuse. You say that it was more simple in the past, however the copyright status of images didnt change, we only make the reuse requirements more obvious and visible so that reusers not come to the idea to credit (C)Wikipeda or so ;). E.g. for File:Mimetite-Galena-216754.jpg (random file) you have the attribution requirement Rob Lavinsky & his website and the ShareAlike requirement to redistribute any copy of the image under the same license, so you have to quote the link http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en. If you not follow this requirement your reuse is a break of the license terms and the reuse permission will terminate automatically and the copyright holder is eligible to demand a licensing fee for the wrong reuse. Some of our photos are Public Domain, you dont have to attribute. Some are Creative Commons as described in my example (Attribution and ShareAlike), some are GFDL requiring attribution, indication of the license and a fulltext copy of the full license text with every copy. Again, see Commons:reuse and maybe Commons:Credit line. --Martin H. (talk) 05:17, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
p.s.: With the license migration adding a CC-by-sa-3.0 license to all GFDL images last year the reuse of 1,5 Million images became more easy because the GFDL requires the full text license (4 DinA4 pages) in e.g. a newspaper or book publication making GFDL content unusable for print publications, the additionally added CC-by-sa-3.0 not has this requirement. --Martin H. (talk) 05:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Proposing new cat

Will anyone oppose to creating a category for my Wikijunior book at Wikibooks, b:Wikijunior:Particles? There are lots of pics in it that would not make sense in any other project except for translations of that book or a corresponding Wikiversity course. Kayau (talk) 07:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Even if we would like to give you advice what you could do at WikiBooks, you should really ask there.
It is possible, probably even preferred, to upload files to Commons, even if they are only used at WikiBooks.
Even if you upload them to Commons, you could still categorize the files at WikiBooks (if that's ok with them). -- User:Docu at 08:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
But my question is, is there any opposition to creating a category for the files for that book at Commons? Local files at Wikibooks is rare as only uploaders can upload them, and only fair use ones. At Wikibooks every book has its own category so even if I had the uploader right and uploaded stuff locally there would already be a cat to house the files. Kayau (talk) 10:37, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
LOL. Ok, you would like to create Category:Wikijunior Particles (at Commons) as others in Category:Wikibooks books for b:Wikijunior:Particles (at Wikibooks).
Please go adhead, it shouldn't be a problem. Please mention b:Wikijunior:Particles in the category description. -- User:Docu at 10:46, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Adding a "version" of a file

Consider this file: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RGB.svg

There is a section on that page that says "other versions". If I wanted to make the background white, how would I then upload another "version" of this file? Daviddoria (talk) 13:35, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

You have to upload it with Commons:Upload (option: It is a derivative work of a file from Commons) and add a link to the newly uploaded other version to the other versions field. E.g. other_versions= <gallery>File:RGB white background.svg|white background</gallery>. --Martin H. (talk) 15:35, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Hm I tried that, it looks like I have to RE-upload the ORIGINAL again? Is that correct? THEN I upload the new one? Daviddoria (talk) 16:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
No, you just need to upload your own version. When you get to the derivativeFX upload form, it will ask you for the original file (which is File:RGB.svg in this case). Then follow the rest of the instructions, which is editing the contents of your own version. ZooFari 17:00, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I am quite an experienced editor on Wikipedia but I'm new to Wikimedia commons. I would like to try and get help with this image - I am trying to upload it for another user so they can put it in their article. What kind of licence would this image typically have, and can I upload it? Thanks, Chevymontecarlo (talk) 11:35, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

See Commons:Image_casebook#Trademarks for an introduction. -- User:Docu at 11:45, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks :) I'm guessing no then, the logo appears to have a little 'r' symbol. Chevymontecarlo (talk) 11:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
The r is just ®, it doesn't have any incidence on the main question, but obviously it limits the usefulness of such files on Commons. You might want to read through the "The logo of an organization" part on en:Wikipedia:Upload to see if it qualifies for upload there. -- User:Docu at 12:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
It's not clear whether the logo meets the threshold of originality that would make it under the copyright of the creator. See other examples of images claimed (by someone?) to be not under copyright protection, in the Threshold of originality gallery page. --Teratornis (talk) 17:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Categories not recognized and unlinked image

Dear Staff, I have uploaded a photograph and written about 8 categories and imported the Commons image into an article in Wiki, yet I am getting messages that my uploaded image is not linked, has no categories and in fact, is not even a file in Wiki Commons. I have written several messages in several different places and still have no idea how to reconcile what I think I did correctly with the operational notes I am receiving back. Can you please help me understand where things stand? First, please look at my submissions under samson22911 and you will see in Wiki, under Pio Pico, the section on Medical History. I just imported the image of Pio Pico 1873 and if you click on that you should see a file with all the relevant data and with a whole list of categories. So, what have I done incorrectly? Thank you, Samson22911 (talk) 16:13, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Strangely, it seems the {{Uncategorized}} template and the associated bot message on the user's talk page fail to tell the user to remove the template after adding categories. The template links to instructions on how to add categories, but I don't see any obvious instruction to the (likely new) user to remove the template after fixing the problem (like this). The ambiguous use of the word "link" is also likely to confuse the new user, who won't understand that it refers specifically to category links. Also note that Wikipedia is not "Wiki", and we don't add our edit summaries to the body of an image page, but rather to the Edit summary field below the edit window. --Teratornis (talk) 22:12, 29 June 2010 (UTC)