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Wikimedijin forum Pod lipo služi razpravam o delovanju, nalogah in pravilih Wikimedijine Zbirke.

Dobrodošli, novinci in zbegane stare sablje! Če vas muči vprašanje o Zbirki in njenem delovanju, ga zastavite na dnu seznama in vam bomo poskušali odgovoriti nanj. Stran ima enak namen kot Wikipedija:Pod lipo.

Vandalizem/Zaščita slik - če želite zaščititi v Zbirko vključeno sliko, ki jo oblegajo vandali, se prosimo pridružite kanalu IRC #commons.wikimedia na freenode.net in pustite tam sporočilo.

POZOR - vprašanja in odgovori na tej strani ne bodo ostali trajno, sicer bi ta kmalu postala predolga za urejanje. Informacije bomo po določenem času nedejavnosti prestavili k drugim ustreznim področjem Zbirke (npr. strani z najpogostejšimi vprašanji), jih arhivirali, morda pa tudi izbrisali. Zato prosimo, da razprave naslavljate. Vedno se tudi podpišite in označite svojo objavo z datumom (vpišete ~~~~).

Začni z novo razpravo

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Gneča pod lipo

Vidim, da imaš zelo veliko gužvo !? --Feri 13:33, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Commons:WikiMiniAtlas/Translations

If anyone could spare a minute, I need some help with a translation for a new upcoming Commons-Extension. Thanks! --Dschwen 07:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Licensing update progress notice

The licensing update proposal to dual license all Wikimedia Foundation wikis under both the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (CC-BY-SA) is moving into its final phase. This proposal put forward by the Foundation and made possible by recent changes in the GFDL is contingent on community approval. In a few days a site notice for all editors will announce the start of vote on this proposal that is expected to last three weeks. In the mean time we would invite you to visit the update proposal and its associated FAQ if you want to learn more. We would also appreciate your help finishing the translation effort for the core documents associated with this process.

Huib talk 11:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC) for the Licensing Update Committee.

Election Notice, Please Translate

The 2008 Board election committee announces the 2008 election process. Wikimedians will have the opportunity to elect one candidate from the Wikimedia community to serve as a representative on the Board of Trustees. The successful candidate will serve a one-year term, ending in July 2009.

Candidates may nominate themselves for election between May 8 and May 22, and the voting will occur between 1 June and 21 June. For more information on the voting and candidate requirements, see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008>.

The voting system to be used in this election has not yet been confirmed, however voting will be by secret ballot, and confidentiality will be strictly maintained.

Votes will again be cast and counted on a server owned by an independent, neutral third party, Software in the Public Interest (SPI). SPI will hold cryptographic keys and be responsible for tallying the votes and providing final vote counts to the Election Committee. SPI provided excellent help during the 2007 elections.

Further information can be found at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/en>. Questions may be directed to the Election Committee at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Board_elections/2008/en>. If you are interested in translating official election pages into your own language, please see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/Translation>.

For the election committee,
Philippe Beaudette

Proposal to change our voting policy

Hello,

A while ago I made a proposal to change our policy about the 4 votes requirement during a rfa, the last week(s) there has been a discussion on the talkpage and now I believe its time to go to the village pump.

Please raise any comments, objections or questions on the talkpage and I hope to implent it without any big objections in 2 weeks or so.

The proposal can be found here:

• User:Abigor/Vote proposal

Best regards, Huib talk 16:39, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Volunteers still needed

Hi all,
Although we soon will remove the centralnotice that is up, the Wikimedia Foundation is still looking for volunteers to serve as subject area experts or to sit on task forces that will study particular areas and make recommendations to the Foundation about its strategic plan. You may apply to serve on a task force or register your name as an expert in a specific area at http://volunteer.wikimedia.org.

The Foundation's strategy project is a year-long collaborative process which is hosted on the strategy wiki, at http://strategy.wikimedia.org. Your input is welcome (and greatly desired) there. When the task forces begin to meet, they will do their work transparently and on that wiki, and any member of the community may join fully in their work. This process is specifically designed to involve as many community members as possible.

Any questions can be addressed to me either on my talk page here or on the strategy wiki or by email to philippe at wikimedia.org.

I hope you'll consider joining us!

Philippe (talk) 03:27, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Call for image filter referendum

The Wikimedia Foundation, at the direction of the Board of Trustees, will be holding a vote to determine whether members of the community support the creation and usage of an opt-in personal image filter, which would allow readers to voluntarily screen particular types of images strictly for their own account.

Further details and educational materials will be available shortly. The referendum is scheduled for 12-27 August, 2011, and will be conducted on servers hosted by a neutral third party. Referendum details, officials, voting requirements, and supporting materials will be posted at Meta:Image filter referendum shortly.

Sorry for delivering you a message in English. Please help translate the pages on the referendum on Meta and join the translators mailing list.

For the coordinating committee,
Philippe (WMF)
Cbrown1023
Risker
Mardetanha
PeterSymonds
Robert Harris

Call for image filter referendum

The Wikimedia Foundation, at the direction of the Board of Trustees, will be holding a vote to determine whether members of the community support the creation and usage of an opt-in personal image filter, which would allow readers to voluntarily screen particular types of images strictly for their own account.

Further details and educational materials will be available shortly. The referendum is scheduled for 12-27 August, 2011, and will be conducted on servers hosted by a neutral third party. Referendum details, officials, voting requirements, and supporting materials will be posted at Meta:Image filter referendum shortly.

Sorry for delivering you a message in English. Please help translate the pages on the referendum on Meta and join the translators mailing list.

For the coordinating committee,
Philippe (WMF)
Cbrown1023
Risker
Mardetanha
PeterSymonds
Robert Harris

{{Dlib.si}}

Ustvaril sem predlogo {{Dlib.si}} za gradivo iz Digitalne knjižnice Slovenije, ki ga je trenutno cca 1200. --Sporti (talk) 16:32, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Terms of Use update

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Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation is discussing changes to its Terms of Use. The discussion can be found at Talk:Terms of use. Everyone is invited to join in. Because the new version of Terms of use is not in final form, we are not able to present official translations of it. Volunteers are welcome to translate it, as German volunteers have done at m:Terms of use/de, but we ask that you note at the top that the translation is unofficial and may become outdated as the English version is changed. The translation request can be found at m:Translation requests/WMF/Terms of Use 2 -- Maggie Dennis, Community Liaison 00:35, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Commons:Licensing: svoboda panorame

Glede na izbrise slik in pogovore na WP sem na Commons:Licensing#Slovenia dodal naslednje: Works permanently placed in parks, streets, squares, or other generally accessible premises may not be reproduced in a 3D-form, used for the same purpose as the original work, or used for economic gain. The source and authorship of the work must be indicated, if the latter is indicated on the work used. (vir) --Eleassar ^(t/p) 21:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Open Call for 2012 Wikimedia Fellowship Applicants

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• Do you want to help attract new contributors to Wikimedia projects?
• Do you want to improve retention of our existing editors?
• Do you want to strengthen our community by diversifying its base and increasing the overall number of excellent participants around the world?

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking Community Fellows and project ideas for the Community Fellowship Program. A Fellowship is a temporary position at the Wikimedia Foundation in order to work on a specific project or set of projects. Submissions for 2012 are encouraged to focus on the theme of improving editor retention and increasing participation in Wikimedia projects. If interested, please submit a project idea or apply to be a fellow by January 15, 2012. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships for more information.

Thanks!

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Community Fellowships, Wikimedia Foundation 12:51, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

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Announcing Wikipedia 1.19 beta

Wikimedia Foundation is getting ready to push out 1.19 to all the WMF-hosted wikis. As we finish wrapping up our code review, you can test the new version right now on beta.wmflabs.org. For more information, please read the release notes or the start of the final announcement.

The following are the areas that you will probably be most interested in:

• Faster loading of javascript files makes dependency tracking more important.
• New common*.css files usable by skins instead of having to copy piles of generic styles from MonoBook or Vector's css.
• The default user signature now contains a talk link in addition to the user link.
• Searching blocked usernames in block log is now clearer.
• Better timezone recognition in user preferences.
• Improved diff readability for colorblind people.
• The interwiki links table can now be accessed also when the interwiki cache is used (used in the API and the Interwiki extension).
• More gender support (for instance in logs and user lists).
• Language converter improved, e.g. it now works depending on the page content language.
• Time and number-formatting magic words also now depend on the page content language.
• Bidirectional support further improved after 1.18.

Report any problems on the labs beta wiki and we'll work to address them before they software is released to the production wikis.

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MediaWiki 1.19

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to upgrade MediaWiki (the software powering this wiki) to its latest version this month. You can help to test it before it is enabled, to avoid disruption and breakage. More information is available in the full announcement. Thank you for your understanding.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system (wrong page? You can fix it.). 14:53, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Predloga: Spomenik

V skladu z [1] in [2] sem sestavil predlogo Template:Spomenik, namenjeno za uporabo pri slikah kulturnih spomenikov Slovenije. --Eleassar ^(t/p) 09:07, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Logotipi Slovenije

Na commons:Deletion requests/Logos of Slovenia je predlagan izbris logotipov slovenskih podjetij in drugih organizacij. Če ima kdo argumentirano mnenje, zakaj izbris ne bo potreben, naj se oglasi, saj bi jih bilo škoda brisati po nepotrebnem. --Eleassar ^(t/p) 09:10, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Update on IPv6

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The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to do limited testing of IPv6 on June 2-3. If there are not too many problems, we may fully enable IPv6 on World IPv6 day (June 6), and keep it enabled.

What this means for your project:

• At least on June 2-3, 2012, you may see a small number of edits from IPv6 addresses, which are in the form "2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334". See e.g. w:en:IPv6 address. These addresses should behave like any other IP address: You can leave messages on their talk pages; you can track their contributions; you can block them. (See the full version of this announcement for notes on range blocks.)

• In the mid term, some user scripts and tools will need to be adapted for IPv6.

• We suspect that IPv6 usage is going to be very low initially, meaning that abuse should be manageable, and we will assist in the monitoring of the situation.

Read the full version of this announcement on how to test the behavior of IPv6 with various tools and how to leave bug reports, and to find a fuller analysis of the implications of the IPv6 migration.

--Erik Möller, VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation 00:48, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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2011 Picture of the Year competition

македонски • norsk bokmål • polski

Dear Wikimedians,

Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2011 Picture of the Year competition is now open. We are interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year 2011. Any user registered at Commons or a Wikimedia wiki SUL-related to Commons with more than 75 edits before 1 April 2012 (UTC) is welcome to vote and, of course everyone is welcome to view!

Detailed information about the contest can be found at the introductory page.

About 600 of the best of Wikimedia Common's photos, animations, movies and graphics were chosen –by the international Wikimedia Commons community– out of 12 million files during 2011 and are now called Featured Pictures.

From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historically relevant images, images portraying the world's best architecture, maps, emblems, diagrams created with the most modern technology, and impressive human portraits, Commons Features Pictures of all flavors.

For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories.

We regret that you receive this message in English; we intended to use banners to notify you in your native language but there was both, human and technical resistance.

See you on Commons! --Picture of the Year 2011 Committee 18:08, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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Help decide about more than $10 million of Wikimedia donations in the coming year

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Hi,

As many of you are aware, the Wikimedia Board of Trustees recently initiated important changes in the way that money is being distributed within the Wikimedia movement. As part of this, a new community-led "Funds Dissemination Committee" (FDC) is currently being set up. Already in 2012-13, its recommendations will guide the decisions about the distribution of over 10 million US dollars among the Foundation, chapters and other eligible entities.

Now, seven capable, knowledgeable and trustworthy community members are sought to volunteer on the initial Funds Dissemination Committee. It is expected to take up its work in September. In addition, a community member is sought to be the Ombudsperson for the FDC process. If you are interested in joining the committee, read the call for volunteers. Nominations are planned to close on August 15.

--Anasuya Sengupta, Director of Global Learning and Grantmaking, Wikimedia Foundation 19:56, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

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Request for Comment: Legal Fees Assistance Program

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The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a request for comment on a proposed program that could provide legal assistance to users in specific support roles who are named in a legal complaint as a defendant because of those roles. We wanted to be sure that your community was aware of this discussion and would have a chance to participate in that discussion.

If this page is not the best place to publicize this request for comment, please help spread the word to those who may be interested in participating. (If you'd like to help translating the "request for comment", program policy or other pages into your language and don't know how the translation system works, please come by my user talk page at m:User talk:Mdennis (WMF). I'll be happy to assist or to connect you with a volunteer who can assist.)

Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF)01:50, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

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Wikidata is getting close to a first roll-out

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As some of you might already have heard Wikimedia Deutschland is working on a new Wikimedia project. It is called m:Wikidata. The goal of Wikidata is to become a central data repository for the Wikipedias, its sister projects and the world. In the future it will hold data like the number of inhabitants of a country, the date of birth of a famous person or the length of a river. These can then be used in all Wikimedia projects and outside of them.

The project is divided into three phases and "we are getting close to roll-out the first phase". The phases are:

1. language links in the Wikipedias (making it possible to store the links between the language editions of an article just once in Wikidata instead of in each linked article)
2. infoboxes (making it possible to store the data that is currently in infoboxes in one central place and share the data)
3. lists (making it possible to create lists and similar things based on queries to Wikidata so they update automatically when new data is added or modified)

It'd be great if you could join us, test the demo version, provide feedback and take part in the development of Wikidata. You can find all the relevant information including an FAQ and sign-up links for our on-wiki newsletter on the Wikidata page on Meta.

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Upcoming software changes - please report any problems

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All Wikimedia wikis - including this one - will soon be upgraded with new and possibly disruptive code. This process starts today and finishes on October 24 (see the upgrade schedule & code details).

Please watch for problems with:

• revision diffs
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• CSS and JavaScript pages (like user scripts)
• bots
• PDF export
• images, video, and sound, especially scaling sizes
• the CologneBlue skin

If you notice any problems, please report problems at our defect tracker site. You can test for possible problems at test2.wikipedia.org and mediawiki.org, which have already been updated.

Thanks! With your help we can find problems fast and get them fixed faster.

Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Engineering Community Manager (talk) 02:46, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

P.S.: For the regular, smaller MediaWiki updates every two weeks, please watch this schedule.

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Fundraising localization: volunteers from outside the USA needed

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Hello All,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Fundraising team have begun our 'User Experience' project, with the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries outside the USA and enhancing the localization of our donation pages. I am searching for volunteers to spend 30 minutes on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real-time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. Please sing up and help us with our 'User Experience' project! :) If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!

Thanks!
Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation

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Predloge za Slovenijo

Zdravo, zdaj imamo naslednji predlogi za Slovenijo: Template:PD-Slovenia in Template:PD-Slovenia-exempt (velja tudi za slikovna gradiva v uradnem listu, ne samo za tekst).[3] (str. 28) --Eleassar ^(t/p) 13:14, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Be a Wikimedia fundraising "User Experience" volunteer!

Thank you to everyone who volunteered last year on the Wikimedia fundraising 'User Experience' project. We have talked to many different people in different countries and their feedback has helped us immensely in restructuring our pages. If you haven't heard of it yet, the 'User Experience' project has the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries (outside the USA) and enhancing the localization of our donation pages.

I am (still) searching for volunteers to spend some time on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. **All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be very low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)**

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!!

Thanks!

Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation

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Wikimedia sites to move to primary data center in Ashburn, Virginia. Read-only mode expected.

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) Next week, the Wikimedia Foundation will transition its main technical operations to a new data center in Ashburn, Virginia, USA. This is intended to improve the technical performance and reliability of all Wikimedia sites, including this wiki. There will be some times when the site will be in read-only mode, and there may be full outages; the current target windows for the migration are January 22nd, 23rd and 24th, 2013, from 17:00 to 01:00 UTC (see other timezones on timeanddate.com). More information is available in the full announcement.

If you would like to stay informed of future technical upgrades, consider becoming a Tech ambassador and joining the ambassadors mailing list. You will be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

Thank you for your help and your understanding.

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Help turn ideas into grants in the new IdeaLab

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• Do you have an idea for a project to improve this community or website?
• Do you think you could complete your idea if only you had some funding?
• Do you want to help other people turn their ideas into project plans or grant proposals?

Please join us in the IdeaLab, an incubator for project ideas and Individual Engagement Grant proposals.

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking new ideas and proposals for Individual Engagement Grants. These grants fund individuals or small groups to complete projects that help improve this community. If interested, please submit a completed proposal by February 15, 2013. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG for more information.

Thanks! --Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 20:13, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

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Zadnje dejanje ali: In vendar ...

(Prestavljeno iz sl:Wikipedija:Pod lipo)

... smo imeli prav tisti, ki smo vsekozi trdili, da interpretacija avtorsko pravne zakonodaje na Commonsu nikakor ni ustrezna vsaj kar se casovnih okvirov tice. Takole dvostopenjsko gre: relavantni datum je 31.12.1995, zadnji dan ko je bil se veljaven stari zakon, ki je prag za prehod dela v javno last dolocal na 50 let ter 25 za anonimna dela. Tako so kandidati za odizbris (ze tako sporni predlogi), kot 1. svetovna vojna, 2. svetovna vojna, Plecnikova arhitektura, itd. Zahvala za angažma gre Miranu ter pravniku na tem podrocju mag. Setincu. --Miha 19:19, 6. februar 2013 (CET)

Mea culpa. Plecnik je umrl 1957. leta. --Miha 12:04, 7. februar 2013 (CET)

Sliši se fino, ampak še bolje bi bilo, če bi se ta interpretacija sklicevala na kak zanesljiv vir. Eleassarjeva namreč se. Predvsem oni del o neobstoju avtorske pravice na "počitniških" fotkah mi je malo sumljiv. — Yerpo ^Ha? 20:17, 6. februar 2013 (CET)

Saj so viri:

• ZAP, Ur.l.SFRJ št.19/78, 24/86, 21/90
• ZASP (Ur.l.RS št.21/95, 9/2001, 30/2001 - ZCUKPIL, 43/2004, 17/2006, 114/2006 - ZUE, 139/2006, 68/2008)

Referenca na Bogatajevo se nanaša le na klasicna avtorska dela (pisana in glasbena). Edina trditev, ki morda ni tako samoumevna je: Tako niso avtorska dela rutinski fotoreporterski posnetki, poprečne amaterske fotografije (družinski, počitniški, priložnostni posnetki) ipd., kar pa sam ze ves cas skozi debato zatarjujem - namrec merilo avtorskosti je kreativni proces (za to pa obstajajo resne reference v filozofiji) - zaradi tega je tudi nesmiselna vsakrsna debata o krsenju pravic arhitekta pri slikanju genericnih 4-oglatih hisic, tovarn ali pa hotelov, ki imajo se kaksen dodaten balkon ... --Miha 20:55, 6. februar 2013 (CET)

bi bili zelo veseli, če bi takšno za nas ugodno interpretacijo imeli nekje zares v pravniškem jeziku napisano in nekako overovljeno, sami pač ne znamo.. Žiga ✉ 22:27, 6. februar 2013 (CET)

ja no v uradnem listu interpretacij ne izdajajo ravno, eno tozbo najdit, kjer se je kdo ravno okoli tega pravdal bo tudi tezko najdit, morda je kdo v kaksnem pravniskem glasilu kdaj kaj podobnega ze objavil ... konec koncev to ne spremeni dejstva, da z ozirom na te clene dozdajsna interetacija ne zdrzi, prepican pa sem da ce bi virtali se dalje bi prisli se do kaksne izjeme, ki pokaze da je prosta uporaba nasplosno dopustna. konec koncev pa odvetniki ne delajo nic drugega... --Miha 23:20, 6. februar 2013 (CET)

Mislil sem na interpretacije, ki izhajajo v pravniški literaturi (primer). G. Setinc bo kot pravnik gotovo poznal kaj takega, ali mogoče imel možnost objaviti članek z nedvoumno razlago. Iz tega šopka zakonov se kot laik ne znajdem, pa očitno so poklicni arhivisti prišli do drugačnih zaključkov... študija Bogatajeve se namreč v delu, kjer razlaga trajanje varovanja AP, ukvarja s splošnimi vidiki, ne specifično s "klasičnimi avtorskimi deli". Vsaj za Plečnika je recimo jasno, da avtorska pravica na njegovih delih do 31.12.1995 še zdaleč ni potekla. Pa če mi je tanova interpretacija še tako všeč, je na žalost zaenkrat malo preslabo utemeljena da bi si upal zanašat nanjo. — Yerpo ^Ha? 08:50, 7. februar 2013 (CET)

Jugoslovanski zakon iz leta 1978 je dostopen tukaj (predvsem šteje 84. člen: fotografska dela so varovana 25 let po objavi in 85. člen: anonimna in psevdonimna dela so varovana 50 let po objavi). Imam nekaj vprašanj:

1. Bogatajeva se s trditvijo, da so anonimna fotografska dela iz leta 1988 ali prej, prosta, ne strinja. Pravi namreč, da "Podaljševanje trajanja avtorskopravnega varstva velja retroaktivno, v kolikor je bilo ob koncu veljavnosti predhodnega zakona delo še vedno varovano" ([4], str. 19). V tem primeru bi lahko bila prosta kvečjemu fotografska, objavljena pred letom 1970 (se pravi 1969 ali manj), kjer je 25-letni rok do 1995 že potekel.
2. V drugih primerih, tako tudi arhitekturnih, pa tudi v primeru anonimnih del velja 50 let po avtorjevi smrti/objavi (glej čl. 85), tako da je popravek iz 1945 na 1988 neutemeljen. Gre namreč za pravico do reprodukcije arhitekturnih del, ne fotografskih. Enako tudi pri osirotelih arhitekturnih delih, katerih avtor zdaj ni znan, je pa bil morda ob nastanku dela, torej še vedno 50 let po avtorjevi smrti.
3. Odstavek o tem, da imajo končno besedo sodišča, se mi zdi nejasen in nepotreben. To velja namreč povsod po svetu, ne samo v Sloveniji. Prav tako o common sense. Kako sploh definirati common sense? Ali se naš common sense ujema s common sense, ki ga uporabljajo sodišča? Razumel bi, da bi pisalo case law.
4. Kje je mogoče prebrati mnenje, ki ga je poslal g. Šetinc? Kdo ga je sploh napisal: Boštjan Šetinc, Igor Šetinc, Lenart Šetinc..?
5. Kaj šteje kot povprečni amaterski posnetek? Je npr. [5] ali [6] potemtakem mogoče prosto uporabljati brez navedbe avtorja kot povprečni priložnostni amaterski posnetek? Nastala sta namreč priložnostno in tudi nista na ravni izbrane ali kakovostne slike. Ne zdi se mi ravno prav, da se kar tako jemljejo slike sodelavcev Commons ali Wikipedije in potem objavljajo v novinarskih člankih kot "povprečen amaterski posnetek". --Eleassar ^pogovor 15:54, 7. februar 2013 (CET)

Po vrsti:

1. Saj tudi je tako, pravica se retroaktivno podaljsa za dela, ki so bila na dan spremembe zakona se varovana. Tak primer je bil tudi v Ameriki, ko so najprej podaljsali iz 25 na 70 in potem v dolocenih primerih se na 90 let. "Rok 70 let velja za vsa avtorska dela tista dela, ki so po ZAP iz leta 1978 uživala varstvo v letu uveljavitve (1995) ZASP (stari krajši roki iz ZAP se podaljšajo na 70 let po ZASP)."
2. Se bom pozanimal kako je z arhitekturnimi deli, v kolikor ne velja 25 letna, temvec 50 letna zascita, potem res govorimo o letu 1945 (z omenjenimi izjemami).

   Glej 83. clen jugoslovanskega ZAP: fotografska dela: dvadeset pet godina. Za arhitektoro torej 50 let.

3. Ce je to res tako splosno veljavno, potem bi pisalo v samem uvodu strani COM:FOP; samoumevno pa tudi ocitno ni, glede na to da se trditev v predlogih za brisanje skusa ovreci.
4. Gre za mnenje mag. Lenarta Šetinca, nekdanjega direktorja NUKa; mnenje mi je bilo posredovano na mail in ga citiram v kljucnih mestih; sem ze prosil za objavo.
5. Gre za nacelo, da je pri avtorskem delu potreben krativni proces. Ta interpretacija v digitalnem svetu naleti na tezave, o cemer razpravlja knjiga Svobodna kultura L. Lessinga. Uveljavljanje pravic za vsako tablo z napisom Pse na vrvice vodi v razvrednotenje avtorskih del in zascite. Glede na to, da je zadeva pod vprasajem sem jo ze vceraj zacano umaknil, csaj dokler se ne dogovorimo za interno smernico, kako in kaj.

--Miha 19:05, 7. februar 2013 (CET)

Na kratko:

• Works published before 31.12.1995
  • OK for all works (except photographic) whose creator died at least 50 years prior to this date (1945 or earlier)
  • OK for photographic works whose creator died at least 25 years prior to this date (1978 or earlier)
  • OK for all anonymous works published 25 or more years prior to this date (and for all works whose author remained unknown in this same period of time) (1978 or earlier)
• Generally Not OK for all other cases (works enter public domain 70 years after death of the last (co)author / after publishment of anonymous work)

--Miha 19:36, 7. februar 2013 (CET)

Bom pogledal. Vsekakor to ne spada na Commons:FOP, ampak Commons:Copyright rules by territory. Prosim, da ne spreminjaš uveljavljenih smernic, dokler se ne dogovorimo. MMG, 1995-25=1970, ne 1978. Prav tako v zakonu jasno piše, da za anonimna dela ap velja 50, ne 25 let (čl. 85). --Eleassar ^pogovor 20:11, 7. februar 2013 (CET)

Po 85. členu ZAP-a za anonimnost pri fotografijah velja tudi 25 let.

Član 85.
Autorsko imovinsko pravo na anonimno autorsko delo i autorsko delo objavljeno pod pseudonimom prestaje po isteku pedeset godina, odnosno po isteku dvadeset pet godina ako su u pitanju dela iz člana 83. stav 2. i člana 84. ovog zakona - od objavljivanja tih dela.
Ako pseudonim ne ostavlja nikakvu sumnju u pogledu identiteta autora, ili ako autor otkrije svoj identitet autorsko imovinsko pravo traje onoliko vremena koliko bi trajalo da je autorsko delo objavljeno pod imenom i prezimenom autora.

Član 84.
Autorsko imovinsko pravo na fotografsko delo, na delo proizvedeno po sličnom postupku i na delo primenjene umetnosti prestaje po isteku dvadeset pet godina po objavljivanju dela.

-Ta  nepodpisani komentar je dodal/-a Uporabnik:Triglav 2000 (pogovor • prispevki).

Za fotografije, ne pa za arhitekturo in kipe. --Eleassar ^pogovor 21:42, 7. februar 2013 (CET)

Torej naslovil sem vprasanje kako je bilo z izpeljanimi deli v Jugoslaviji. --Miha 21:47, 7. februar 2013 (CET)

Dobro, urejal pa si stran Commons:FOP. Nimam nič proti, če se COM:Copyright rules by territory dopolni s podatkom, da so bile fotografije in dela uporabne umetnosti zavarovana 25 let po objavi, ter Commons:FOP s podatkom, da je ap na delih uporabne umetnosti potekla po 25 letih od objave. Glede ostalega pa stran Commons:FOP trenutno vsebuje napačne podatke (1978, 25 let na anonimnih delih ipd.), zato predlagam vrnitev na predhodno stanje. --Eleassar ^pogovor 21:55, 7. februar 2013 (CET)

Convert complex templates to Lua to make them faster and more powerful

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Greetings. As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech blog or the tech ambassadors list, a new functionality called "Lua" is being enabled on all Wikimedia sites today. Lua is a scripting language that enables you to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates.

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There is a new request for comment on Meta-Wiki concerning the removal of administrative rights from long-term inactive Wikimedians. Generally, this proposal from stewards would apply to wikis without an administrators' review process.

We are also compiling a list of projects with procedures for removing inactive administrators on the talk page of the request for comment. Feel free to add your project(s) to the list if you have a policy on administrator inactivity.

All input is appreciated. The discussion may close as soon as 21 May 2013 (2013-05-21), but this will be extended if needed.

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[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming

Some accounts will soon be renamed due to a technical change that the developer team at Wikimedia are making. More details on Meta.

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[en] Change to section edit links

The default position of the "edit" link in page section headers is going to change soon. The "edit" link will be positioned adjacent to the page header text rather than floating opposite it.

Section edit links will be to the immediate right of section titles, instead of on the far right. If you're an editor of one of the wikis which already implemented this change, nothing will substantially change for you; however, scripts and gadgets depending on the previous implementation of section edit links will have to be adjusted to continue working; however, nothing else should break even if they are not updated in time.

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• The latest version of MediaWiki (version 1.22/wmf4) was added to non-Wikipedia wikis on May 13, and to the English Wikipedia (with a Wikidata software update) on May 20. It will be updated on all other Wikipedia sites on May 22. [7] [8]
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