Commons:Undeletion requests/Current requests

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File:Avro Anson K8758.jpg [edit]

The image in question is found on page 41 of Radar Days by Bowen, which can be seen on Google Books. The image was taken from one of two RAF Avro Anson, of another RAF Avro Anson, both of which are identified by serial number on the description page and the book in question. The aircraft in question were part of an experimental group seconded to AMES by the RAE for the development of airborne radar systems. Everyone that ever even heard of the aircraft was either in the RAF or Air Ministry, including the photographer, who was either Hanbury Brown or Bowen himself. This clearly falls under UK Crown Copyright, and thus has an expired copyright as described on the license page in question.

The file was posted for deletion by Nigel Ish on the 2nd, while I was out of town. When I returned I posted a message in an attempt to clarify issues. Nigel did not return to the page, but on the 11th Fastly deleted it anyway saying that it was unclear and requires "explicit written and/or textual, tangible evidence" and linked to the [Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle], which obviously doesn't apply given that we know who owned the copyright and that it has expired. I asked what more evidence might be required, but have not received a response.

Maury Markowitz (talk) 01:25, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

I will not take a position on this because I am not absolutely certain of the law. In the US, images taken by Federal employees whose job includes photography are automatically PD, but those taken by people whose job is not photography are not PD. I would assume that the same is true of Crown Copyright -- certainly not every snapshot taken by someone who works for the UK government has a Crown Copyright, even if it was a government subject. Robert Hanbury Brown was certainly not employed as a photographer and I doubt that Bowen was either. Thus unless we have someone who is certain of the nuances of this rule for Crown Copyright, I think this must remain deleted. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:40, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
It's not exactly true that a US Government's job description must be a photographer for their photos to be PD-USGov. It just has to be part of their duties -- if they were primarily say an editor, but they were asked to take photos that day for use in an article, then that is part of their official duties that day. Basically, if the photos were taken as part of their job, versus ones taken for personal use along the way. If something would be a work for hire by an employee, it would be PD-USGov for a government employee. The UK is very similar today, but before 1988 Crown Copyright was very expansive, covering anything done under the direction or control of a government department (regardless if the authors were government employees or not). So, I guess the question is if the photo was the result of someone asking to get some photos for the record, or a private photo Bowen took for himself and still had before publishing in the book. It seems to be a photograph in flight. If the photograph came from an RAF or government archive I'd guess it would be PD-UKGov, but if it was a private photo Bowen took and only he owned then it would be different. (Well, it became PD in the late 1980s same as Crown Copyright, but was re-copyrighted in 1996 by the EU extensions and would now be under copyright for a good long time.) Carl Lindberg (talk) 04:17, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

File:中华人民共和国机动车驾驶证简式样本(副页).png [edit]

1.这张图片及其之前被删除的版本是我自行排版制作的,是我自己的作品,它的原始来源为中华人民共和国境内的证件,而中华人民共和国境内的证件属于公有领域的著作品(如下图),我的作品并未侵犯任何版权要求(条款);

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Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China: Article 5 This law shall not be applicable to:
(1) laws; regulations; resolutions, decisions and orders of state organs; other documents of legislative, administrative and judicial nature; and their official translations;
(2) news on current affairs; and
(3) calendars, numerical tables, forms of general use and formulas.

This work is from any of the items above and is in the public domain in Mainland China and possibly other jurisdictions. For works whose copyright has expired, see also Template:PD-China. (Article 5 of the Implementing Regulations of the Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China defines news on current affairs as the mere facts or happenings reported by the mass media, such as newspapers, periodicals and radio and television stations.)


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2.我按照并且严格遵守维基百科的图片上传方针,在图片的来源上注明了Flickr,并且原始图片在Flickr(https://www.flickr.com/photos/100953993@N06/14673650170/ )注明了版权许可表示,请予以明察; 3.请认真考量我的申诉请求,并体谅我的图片制作热情与辛苦,认真做出客观、真实的结论。 --TVBS588 (talk) 10:23, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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File:中华人民共和国机动车驾驶证简式样本(正页).png [edit]

1.这张图片及其之前被删除的版本是我自行排版制作的,是我自己的作品,它的原始来源为中华人民共和国境内的证件,而中华人民共和国境内的证件属于公有领域的著作品(如下图),我的作品并未侵犯任何版权要求(条款);

Public domain
Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China: Article 5 This law shall not be applicable to:
(1) laws; regulations; resolutions, decisions and orders of state organs; other documents of legislative, administrative and judicial nature; and their official translations;
(2) news on current affairs; and
(3) calendars, numerical tables, forms of general use and formulas.

This work is from any of the items above and is in the public domain in Mainland China and possibly other jurisdictions. For works whose copyright has expired, see also Template:PD-China. (Article 5 of the Implementing Regulations of the Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China defines news on current affairs as the mere facts or happenings reported by the mass media, such as newspapers, periodicals and radio and television stations.)


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English | македонски | português | português do Brasil | ไทย | 中文(简体)‎ | 中文(繁體)‎ | +/−

2.我按照并且严格遵守维基百科的图片上传方针,在图片的来源上注明了Flickr,并且原始图片在Flickr(https://www.flickr.com/photos/100953993@N06/14673650170/ )注明了版权许可表示,请予以明察; 3.请认真考量我的申诉请求,并体谅我的图片制作热情与辛苦,认真做出客观、真实的结论。 --TVBS588 (talk) 10:23, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting question.svg Question Is a driving licence really a "文件"? That only refers to textual documents, right? The somewhat complex background is not text. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:40, 22 August 2014 (UTC)