Commons:Usability issues and ideas

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[edit] Too De-Centralized

It makes sense that all other projects are separated because it is not nearly as typical for people to -- for instance -- read an article on English Wikipedia and decide to click the linked article in another language. Each project has its own text that is only relevant to itself (for instance, you don't write books in Wikipedia, you put them in Wikibooks. You don't write an article entirely in Dutch language in the Spanish Wikipedia, you write it in the Dutch Wikipedia). Commons is very different, though, since files uploaded here may be used with any project in any language. It makes little sense to me that a file can be uploaded to any project OR it can be uploaded to Commons, and if the file is in Commons, when you click to view a file's page from another project, you see the image but are then told that the file is in Commons and you must click to get there separately. Although I understand why this is done, at the same time it feel likes two processes that could/should be merged into one. — CobraWiki ^{( jabber | stuff )} 04:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't have the complete statistics, but I was under the impression that projects allowing local uploads are the exception rather than the rule. Unless there's a specific purpose, such as allowing non-free files, I agree that it doesn't make much sense to allow free files to be uploaded anywhere but here, where all projects can benefit.

I also agree that the local image description page previews are a bit of an annoyance. I'd rather be taken directly to Commons where I can see the categories and jump right into editing (but I understand that this could be confusing to new users). At the Swedish Wikipedia, there's a gadget for this, sv:MediaWiki:Gadget-commonsimagelinks.js, but from what I can see, JavaScript can't tell if the file is local or served by Commons, so this is only portable to projects that have no local image files at all (lest links to local files be broken). It would be nice to have such an option as a more integral part of the software. —LX (talk, contribs) 20:02, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] NO@CobraWiki

You totally forgot about juridical reasons:

On COM, only "generally [hopefully worldwide] acceptable" media would be allowed, while on, e.g., enWP, there is such thing as fair use which allows by far more media to be uploaded and to be used in enWP articles; such media might be transferred to COM "one day" (say, e.g., 70 years after author's death, or ...) "automatically". I suppose similar applies to other "national" projects. For the rest, I agree with user:LX. -- [w.] 19:18, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Sure, "one day" that fair user image will be PD, but since the author is not noted and enwiki doesn't care much, it will continue being treated as FU. Platonides (talk) 20:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] verschieben/move/...

ich wuerde mir wuenschen, dass fehlerhafte namen + titel + ueberschriften (durch verwechslung, tippfehler etc.) sich durch "verschieben/move" und/oder "überschreiben" beim hochladen der korrigierten fassung (mit dann korrektem titel) ändern liessen und nicht jedesmal dieser umstand: "löschen" und "neu-laden" notwendig wäre! dontworry (talk) 05:44, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Translation from German: "I wish that erroneous names + titles + headings (due to mistakes or slips of the finger etc.) could be corrected by using "move" and/or "overwrite" when uploading the corrected version (with the correct title), rather than having to go to the trouble of "delete" followed by "re-upload" every time!" -- pne (talk) 10:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Antwort: inzwischen kann jeder admin auf Commons Dateien direkt umbenennen, also ohne den bisherigen "Umweg" über den bot (mit Neu-Hochladen und Löschen). Weil Dateiumbenennungen aber alles andere als unkritisch sind und erhebliche Folgen auch außerhalb der Wikimedia-Welt haben können, ist es durchaus gerechtfertigt, dass die direkte Umbenennung nur einem eingeschränkten Nutzerkreis erlaubt wird. --Túrelio (talk) 10:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Inquérito

É muito desagradável terminar um inquérito que fazemos voluntariamente numa página onde o único link é este! Parece que estão a forçar-nos a participar no Commons... O inquérito deve terminar num link que nos permita regressar ao projeto de onde acessamos ao inquérito. Obrigado. --196.28.239.18 07:03, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Long, long, long

Hi,

I'm a regular user of Commons. I'm not perfect, but I begin to know what I can do here and what I can't.

My problem is that Commons is too long to use (« énergivore »). I take me many evening to upload personnal photos helping to illustrate French Wikipedia.

Do it is possible to have acces to another kind of uploading page (« formulaire »), one for the « old » users, one who can be more quick ? A kind of uploading page who would (« pourrait ») skip some warnings the old contributors know and allow them to upload many photos in one time.

- Khayman ^(contact) 12:19, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Try this. --Túrelio (talk) 13:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Si on a beaucoup d'images on peut utiliser User:Nichalp/Upload_script. Une script analyse les fichiers, on complète l'information dans un tableur (excel, gnumeric, ...) et une autre script fait ce qui reste. --LPfi (talk) 11:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Il y a aussi le Commons:Outils/Commonist. --LPfi (talk) 11:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

En général, je me sers de ceci ;]] -- EN: Use the "back-button" of your browser to edit description for another similar upload ;) AND: PLEASE be careful, 'cause otherwise this way-to-access might be cancelled. Amitiés. [w.] 19:33, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Difficulty adding logos, company info

I work for a company and my job is to update the profile on Wikipedia (http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%ADgitro). I was asked to upload the company logo and my addition was denied because I didn't have ownership of the logo. Now, the logo is available on the company's website (www.digitro.com) and I work here. I sent e-mails, explaining why we needed the logo there and did everything the right way. And still the addition was barred. I think it's important to watch over copyright on the web, but some other things also have to be considered. I gave up on Wikimedia Commons.

--Mayra Warren (talk) 13:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)Mayra Warren

Hi Mayra, in case you didn't totally give up, here my answer. Being shown on a website, doesn't mean an image is free, as you likely know already. Therefore a permission is required, especially for images that are commercially used or professionally made. As we have no mechanism or requirement for uploaders to surely identify themselves, a self-confirmation isn't enough if you are not the creator of the image. All you have to do is, to go to Commons:Email templates, take the boxed template, enter the filename (complete URL after upload) and the choosen license, ask the legally responsible person or delegate of the company to put his/her name under it, plus the date, and mail it back to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. After that you put the following on the image page on Commons: {{OTRS pending}}. Then, after some time an OTRS volunteer will put a so-called OTRS-ticket in the image description and everything is fine. --Túrelio (talk) 14:04, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

A imagem colocada na entrada "António Hipólito da Costa" não corresponde a António Hipólito da Costa mas sim a Hipólito José da Costa, pelo que peço façam a devida correcção.

[edit] Watchlist issue

My biggest complaint about commons is the lack of unified watchlist and separate log in. Wikipedia has lots of editors and they would be more inclined to do a lot of the grunt work (categories, et al) if there were a unified system. Americasroof (talk) 15:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok, but as to my knowledge you also don't have "a unified watchlist" over different wikipedias, or between wikipedia and wikinews. And about "separate log in", we have SUL since months and that allows you to interwiki-jump and you are automatically logged-in. --Túrelio (talk) 16:42, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

People who participate in multiple Wikipedia editions or multiple projects such as Wikipedia and Wikinews typically spend a decent amount of time on each project, and the projects are quite independent of one another. Commons is in a somewhat different situation. A lot of people who participate here do it primarily as a means to the end of serving another project, because that project depends on Commons for media resources. Maybe that's not what we'd wish, but we can't expect to gain more active participants by being insular. Increasing the visibility of Commons edits might make irregular visitors more active, though. I think it's a useful suggestion, and I see above that other users request it too. —LX (talk, contribs) 19:38, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] wat mis met mijn PC

er was wat mis met mijn PC ik hoop dat ik verder met vragen komt dat bij google,heb me veel geholpen met andere dat ik het niet wist dat hoe ik andere programma's moest gebruiken. ik hoop dat ik de vreden ben met het nieuwe hulp middel,

vriendelijke groeten

fred van golde

[edit] Watermark against authors signature

I am getting bored of people adding the watermark-template to the maps I draw for wikipedia. I am willing to share my maps for free with anyone using the cc-by-sa license. But I do not understand why I should not be allowed to put my name as a tiny signature in a corner of a map or any drawing / chart that I created. After all I garantee with my name for the quality of the information shown. Also this signature garantees that re-use always includes the credits that I insist on.sidonius (talk) 17:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

By uploading an image to commons you are allowing anyone to make derivative works of that image for whatever purpose they like, that includes removing your watermark if they so wish. --JD554 (talk) 09:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Diffusing catagories to much

In contrast to other users I find catagories more helpful than galleries because I can find a large amount of pictures with one click and it is also easier to add pictures to catagories than to galleries. Now, more and more categories are diffused and broken down into tiny pieces, so that this initial advantage of categories is lost. This could be solved, if there would be a fuction to show all pictures in a category including all subcategories. sidonius (talk) 17:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

What level of diffusion is appropriate depends largely on individual needs, so it's impossible to say how much is too much. Searching for images in a specific category and its subcategories (down to a given depth) is one of the many uses for the CatScan tool. Select the Commons wiki, enter your category and recursion depth, and select "for all images." It's a toolserver-based solution and not exactly blindingly fast, but it seems to perform the requested task. —LX (talk, contribs) 19:24, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

This idea is incorporated to my proposal at Strategy wiki.--Kozuch (talk) 15:42, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Reportagen geração em tecnologia

A projeção de uma página é bastante óbvia de acordo com cada sensão , uma distribuição de gastos para uma grande reportagem e com sucesso de um grande enpreendimento. Para tudo o que for conseguir de acordo com o seu auge , de uma educação a extremidade do QI ,é uma inteligencia fora do sério , para muitas pessoas ainda é algo estranho e sobre natural mais sabendo de cada coisa óbvia de hoje em dia por isso sempre se mantenha informado das mudanças da Física , medicina , ciencias e entre outras ... É ESTA A REPORTÁGEM QUE EU TENHO HOJE PARA LHE DAR .Só basta ter uma inteligencia fértil e bastante estudada para coisas óbvias etc... Mas sermpre siga as minhas dicas que você vai ter um ótimo enpreendimento em sua reportagem ou dedicação profissional de cada Ânbito de seu grande empreendimento. Um grande pensamento em grandes gerações de seu futuro , a glória vem de um fracaso ...Mas a dignidade vem da luta de cada um de nós. Cada contribuição com cada menbro de cada instituição de ornabilidade de várias frequência de cada opinião... Mas saiba que tudo vem de uma coisa que muitas das vezes n´s nem percfebmo s em nossa subvlime atualidade de revogação de um erro cometido poir lei judicial , . Tomar cuidado com as coisa que nos fazem mal mesmo sem nós percebermos ,basta apenas um toque para uma coisa bem diversificada aconpanhando com o desenvolvimento do Mundo . O consumismo é uma coisa bastante provavel entre anbos os aspectos . De cada ãnbito de uma conciência generalizada para cada um de nós ,A infro estrutura de cada monumento não pode ser interronpido por nenhum de seua aspectos fisíológicos . Nada é do jeito como nós pensamos tudo tem sua opinião o sei porquê ?do que e do algo são aspectos bastantes direcionáveis hoje em dia para cada um de nós.Tem um serta generalização de um serto progresso para um ânbito nacional e internacional . O governo aprova várias coisas mas depende do seu conhecimento sobre o que eles falam ,é bom saber que tudo seja uma priorização de estudo .

Pois as coisas são bem conplicadas de acxordo com o que precisa então ,ajudew a si mesmo a cadav dia em cada lugar ou gerencia de cada aspecto singular .A grandes coisas que nos fazem crescer como entendimento de uma atualização de sua opinião sobre algo, por isso o esforço sobre algo nunca é demais ... Saiba tudo o que uma boa reportagem quer lhe trazer em tempo e ewspaço aberto sobre uma tecnologia fora do sério , em meio de um instante o meio de comunicação em um instantes tudo sircula ao meio de uns fios que levam até vocês em casa no trabalho , e em vários outros aspécto são bastante prováveis de ouvir quaisquer ou outra repotagem de várias maneiras do tipo :violência ,roubo , culinária ,festas entre outras por hoje eu tenho somente into para dizer ... Byy

                Byyyyyy
                            
                   reportagem descrita no dia :27/10/2009
         Feito pela assistente de reportagem da wikipédia do meu sistema de navegação :
                  --201.57.224.242 18:24, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Batch uploading

Some sort of batch uploading/tagging system for similar files would be helpful (eg pictures from a vacation). Right now I just open up a bunch of simple uploader tabs and flip between them, copy/pasting all the identical information. Dar-Ape 00:02, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Exactly, this is the point. --Sokoljan (talk) 09:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Such a tool is in place already - see Commonist page.--Kozuch (talk) 10:32, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

This usability issue with multiple uploads seems to be a common theme. And though "Commonist" does exist, its not really the solution people are looking for. We want something integrated on the website, you know like modern websites do it. Hell, even technological simple Craigslist has multiple uploads. We do not want to have to download and install third party software onto our computers. For one thing, I would need to install it on all my computers, and some people do still use public computers at internet cafes, libraries, etc. and may not be able to install the software. So, address the problem with a real solution, not a work-around. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you - a web based interface is always better. You can run Commonist without installing too thouhg - it is a Java app which you can be run on 95+% computers usually, given that you have such a rights to run Java app on the machine - not sure this is the case in each library, but you surely can use it at home without the need of an install.--Kozuch (talk) 07:25, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Uploading...

As such i wish to upload many Multimedia items which can be helpful in Wiki Projects, but main thing which hinders me from doing this is Complexity of procedures. The main thing is Lesser information for help. The concepts of Uploading entities like OTRS, Licensing e.t.c. Though they are explained but not easy to understand the concept behind them & should be eased. Also search-ability is not good many a times i am not able to find media so i upload them, but later found that they are available. Another issue is with logos, symbols its not easy to get them uploaded as compared to wikipedia uploading options. (  Abu Torsam  06:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC))

[edit] türkçe

cosmos türkçe olursa o zaman ilgilenirim. --Son kahraman (talk) 09:09, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The survey

THis survey concerning WikiCommons should be reviewed. Many answers can be complementary, I had to answer "very rarely" when my answer was "never" (concerning uploading videos). I doubt the result of this survey will be reliable to take good decisions because the information it will give won't be complete. Cgadbois (talk) 17:06, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] metamofose vlinder :bont zandoogje

Bont zandoogje

Hoe ziet hij eruit?

Het bont zandoogje is een bruine vlinder met kleine gele vlekjes die leeft in het bos. Het mannetje zit vaak op kleine zonnige plekjes in het bos te wachten op een vrouwtje. Die zonnige plekjes zien er net zo uit als zijn eigen gele vlekjes, zodat je hem soms bijna niet ziet zitten. Als er een ander mannetje op zijn plekje komt jaagt hij hem snel weg. Dan vliegen ze om elkaar heen hoog de lucht in

Waar kun je hem vinden? Als je in Noord-Brabant, Oost-Nederland of de duinen van Zeeland, Terschelling of Texel woont, heb je veel kans om deze vlinder te zien, want daar komt hij veel voor. Waar leven de rupsen? Het vrouwtje legt haar eitjes op gras dat half in de schaduw staat. Het bont zandoogje leeft in de winter als rups of als pop.

Waar leven de rupsen?

Het vrouwtje legt haar eitjes op gras dat half in de schaduw staat. Het bont zandoogje leeft in de winter als rups of als pop. In de winter komt hij uit als rups of als pop

[edit] Adding a batch of photos in one session

I often upload several photos in one session, not necessarily different angles of the same object. The main niggle is the way the Destination Filename gets automatically generated by the Wikimedia computer. This is user-unfriendly because it wipes any name I may have given it and automatically gives it the source filename on my computer or camera memory card. One complication of this is that it generates the red-framed error message that my new upload will over-write an existing filename. The only time this is helpful is immediately after I have clicked on the Upload button.

After I have uploaded the first picture, I use the back arrow on my web browser to get to the upload file page with most of the boxes filled in to save time. I do not want the Wikimedia computer to generate an automatic destination filename but only to give me a warning if I have not renamed this. -- Robert of Ramsor (talk) 17:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I often encounter the same problem; it would be great to see the behaviour of this changed. The same also applies to the description box, which frequently (and irritatingly) gets reset whilst doing multiple uploads of related pictures. Mike Peel (talk) 23:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Oriacua

Oriacua Nacido en republica dominicana 1 de febrero de 1996 developer de maple story

File:Http://img33.imageshack.us/i/mybannerblinkyeb496ac9f.gif/

== Historia ==

en el 2007 oriacua hizo su primer server Jest-Ms el q no tuvo mucho fama pero las personas que los jugaron le gusto bueno el server alos 5 meses fue cerrado y por errores de hosting y problemas de internet en el 2008 oriacua creo su nuevo server Gamez-Ms revolution que fue la siguiente vercion de Gamez-Ms Gamez-Ms Revolution fue creado por Jesus Baqui y Oriacua, Donde se encontraban los GMs Cynthia, Camilo, Jan, Niel, Zarukiro, Kilmo, Sebax, Luego de los dos meses El server fue cerrado por que oriacua no lo podia mantener abierto con su trabajo de developer Oriacua continuo con su investigaciones de servers en el 2009 oriacua encontro un Server esta vez oriacua se unio al server llamado GeniusMs el server del ADM Y DEVELOPER Darkdemon oriacua se unio a el y se hicieron socios aalos 5 meses aproximado de GeniusMs fue cerrado.

Luego oriacua y Darkdemon esta vez con Waly formaron otro grupo y formaron MakyMs que es el nuevo server Oriacua era Gm alos inicios del Server pero Tuvo Problemas y dejo de serlo por varias ocaciones dejo su puesto de Gm en MakyMs y hasta haora el Server a estado abierto.

Hasta entonces No se ha sabido noticias de Oriacua solo de su Foro Gamez-Explorer.Net no se ha sabido hasta entonces si volvera hacer otro server o se unira con alguien mas.

[edit] [[Douglas Muzzi]]

Eu sou indescritivel

[edit] The saga of unidentified photos

Here is my little story: I came across some photos of a college town somewhere in the mid west (U.S.A.), in the request for capiton category. So I figured I will search the web. Well, these unidentified photos were simply being mirrored across cyberspace (the web). I realized this when one search return link led me back to Wikimedia commons.

If there is no way to identify what the picture is about, and if it doesn't have a source that goes with the picture that can help identify the picture, then delete it right away or after a very short time. It seems to me that those pictures were being retained in the hopes that someone would come along and identify them. To me this seems to be totally random - wiki-commons is waiting for a totally random person to come along who will recognize the picture.

It is also kind of like crossing fingers hoping it all works out. Pictures like this, without identification, are the responsiblity of the person who downloaded them, not the responsibility of Wikimedia or the volunteers who put in their time.

I was a new user back then, just learning the ropes. If it happened now, I would put them up for speedy deletion. And I would have good reason. Images like this are taking up valuable bandwidth. Also, that bandwidth has to paid for somewhere down the road.

So you asked us to define the problem - this is one that I have defined. Thanks for your time. Ti-30X (talk) 22:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Picture uploads should be less complicated!

I use wikipedia very often... every single day! I just wanted to start adding pictures in articles, nothing serious, just simple stuff like photos of bands and other people when they were missing in the very beginning of the article. I registered, but i did not know that the process of uploading was so complicated. Too many questions and extra information to give. I hope I am not the only one concerned about it, I hope that something will be done.

Thank you very much. Wikimedia is Outstanding I admire what you do!

[edit] SVG and PNG

SVG Files as known as Scalable Vector Graphics

[edit] Downloading downsized files

I recently bought a full frame, 25 megapixel DSLR camera and am a little concerned by the size of the generated files (over 5 mio for a regular file, more for panoramas). It is very (too) large for many people but I am reluctant to reduce the size of my pictures because the full definition can also be useful to other.

This issue could be resolved by allowing users to download intermediate, downsampled versions, either on demand (if possible) or standard sizes (like on flickr.com). inisheer (talk) 17:17, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

For logged in users, there is a gadget available in the preferences. --AVRS (talk) 17:49, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. It could be interesting to make it available for unlogged users as well, as bandwidth is usually not a problem to me. inisheer (talk) 18:41, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Cat sort on usage

Hi,

Maybe a good idea would be a way to sort a category on the usage of the files, since a week maybe 2 is there a checkusage on the WMF servers and when we could sort a category on the usage it would be much easier to delete dupes and other things.

Best regards, Huib talk 10:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Abolish the distinction between categories and galleries

In 2004 and 2005, ther question how to use galleries vs. categoriesy on commons was hotly debated [1]. there's still no real consensus, just resignation to a status quo, and the distinction keeps baffeling new users. It really makes no sense to have two pages for many topics, which are tricky to keep in sync, and sometimes are not even properly linked to each other.

I suggest to work towards removing the distinction, or at least making it irrelevant to users. When looking up a topic, the top part should use a structured/commented "best-of" gallery, of available, while the bottom part contains an unsorted list of media in the category (perhaps only loaded on demand). sub-topics and super-topics (pages and/or categories, without distinction!) should always be shown in a prominent way, for easy navigation. -- Duesentrieb ⇌ 23:01, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Often I don't know where to go first: "Something" or "Category:Something"? Since categories may display content just as a normal page do, why don't we put the content of Something into the Category:Something page? — Delhovlyn (discuter / talk) 20:47, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I also agree. The idea of a gallery is great, however, there just aren't that many editors creating them. Thus, the existing ones contain few images, separate few images from their corresponding categories and complicate linking. mahanga (talk) 05:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I fully support using Category pages for some gallery content too.--Kozuch (talk) 07:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Linking commons image to facebook does not show any preview

Maybe it's not exactly Commons related, but if you try to link a common image on Facebook, all you'll get to display is a link and no preview for it.
For example, if you try to link to File:Gull portrait ca usa.jpg (just a random example), it will show a link and no preview to it, while other sites will have a link and an image preview...
Not sure if this needs to be fixed on Commons side or on facebook side (maybe on both?)
It is minor, but it could allow to make Commons more known...
PS: The fb faq says it has something to do with missing metadata http://www.facebook.com/help.php?page=416&hloc=en_US "I don’t have a preview for my link" ) Esby (talk) 15:15, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

For those unable to access Facebook, here's what it says..

If a preview is not displaying correctly for your URL, you may need to contact the webmaster of the site you are trying to share to check whether it meets Facebook's requirements.

In order to generate a Share preview successfully, a website must include the following three meta tags in its source HTML:

<meta name="title" content="Article headline here" /><meta name="description" content="Article summary here" /><link rel="image_src" href="http://www.example.com" />

Please make sure that this site includes these tags in the section of its HTML. Also, note that these tags are case-sensitive and URLs must be absolute. For more information, click the "How do I make sure the Share Preview works?" link at the bottom of http://www.facebook.com/share_partners.php.

If you have determined that this site includes all of the necessary metatags but it is still not generating the correct preview, please submit a report here.

mahanga (talk) 18:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I have experienced the same problem.--Kozuch (talk) 09:43, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Searching and finding is key to the use and reuse of Commons

A repository like Commons is there to be used. In order to find illustrations to articles inside and outside of the Wikimedia Foundation projects, it is essential that we are able to find the sought for media files and, it is necessary to appreciate them because of available annotations. Given that our search results only support English and given that our categories are available only in English Commons is effectively useless for people who do not understand the language. With over 270 Wikipedias in other languages, an English only Commons is simply not acceptable.

When the categories make use of a lexical support system, we can allow people to find whatever has translations available in another language. There are and have been multiple approaches to this. The one by Duesentrieb and my own are the best known examples of this.

Given that reuse is what makes Commons relevance, it is funny when you consider that so far the approach has been to improve on adding content to Commons. I am of the opinion that Commons has enough of a repository that we should give reuse at least the same priority as adding content to Commons. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 11:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)