Commons:Valued image candidates/Historic Photographs of Antoin Sevruguin

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Historic Photographs of Antoin Sevruguin

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Images
Description

Historical images (1840 - 1933)of photographer Antoin Sevruguin from Qajar period of Iran. Originals are in the archives of Golestan Palace, Tehran. Including pictures of Palace, King, Queen and ordinary people of the period.

Nominated by Nevit on 2008-03-30 21:20 (UTC)
Scope Nominated as the most valued set of images on Wikimedia Commons within the scope:
Historical images (1840 - 1933) of photographer Antoin Sevruguin from Qajar period of Iran. Originals are in the archives of Golestan Palace, Tehran. Including pictures of Palace, King, Queen and ordinary people of the period.
Review
(criteria)
  • Pictogram voting question.svg Question Thank you for this interesting set nomination. I have some questions:
    • Is this image set known to be a complete list of all known photos taken by Antoin Sevruguin? Or is it all photos taken by Antoin Sevruguin, which are in the Golestan Palace archive? -- Slaunger 21:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
      • These are all of those who where available at [1] here source of images. --Nevit 22:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Are any of these photos in current use in Wikimedia projects (not a requirement, but it helps to understand their value)? --Slaunger 21:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
      • I uploaded the images at January 15, 2008. A CheckUsage: search for each of them will be too labourous for me. But considering that photography was invented at 1830's and these photos start from 1840's there should be no doubt about their value. Additional value comes from the variety of subjects, which not only include the rulers of the period and their palace, but also the photographs of ordinary people, their clothings, belongings and environment. --Nevit 22:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Are there other photographs available on Commons from Iran from the Qajar period? -- Slaunger 21:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose for now. Thank you for providing the extra detail. First of all, I agree with you that the images are quite if not very valuable. They would improve though if the individual images had a description of the subject. It is not evident at first sight for several of the photogrphs. I saw some short descriptions in the source. They could be added to increase value. However, to become a Valued Image Set the set, as seen as a whole should IMO represent a substantially higher value than the accumulated value of each individual image. Otherwise there is not a point in identifying it as a VIS. I can also see that having all the images together gives a more nuanced and complete impression of the daily life and high society in Iran in that period than if I just saw the individual photos out of context. But to my mind that does not stand out as something special in this case, as it is common property of a set of images categorized to the same subject (as these are). For me, the image set would have been complete if these were all the known photos by Antoin Sevruguin. Here it seems, it represents the complete collection of photographs by Antoin Sevruguin from a specific archive. This does not quite pass my completeness-bar. It is like a stamp collection, where I have bought all stamps from Iran from a specific stamp retailer, not as interesting as having a complete set of all stamps from Iran. I would appreciate to learn other reviewers opinion about this nomination. I may be convinced that my reasoning has flaws... -- Slaunger 19:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Result: 1 oppose
=> Declined. -- Slaunger 22:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Declined -> undecided by the end of the test review phase. -- Slaunger 20:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)