Commons talk:Fair use

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Company Logo Policy is UTTERLY confusing

So what is the deal with uploading the logo of a notable US company for its wikipedia page if you are the owner of that logo and give permission? I've seen company logos hosted in the commons on ALL SORTS of other company wikipedia pages, but according to guides like this one, all those logos should be "speedily deleted." What is the real story here, and how does a contributor contribute "properly?" --Nhtahoe (talk) 17:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, the following template, Template:Logo_fur, makes it seem like it is ok to upload non-free media/non-free logos. Since many non-free company logos exist in the commons, they must have been uploaded somehow, and this guide may be inaccurate. --Nhtahoe (talk) 17:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Logo_fur has been deleted; it was indeed inappropriate to upload images here based on a Fair Use rationale.--Elvey (talk) 22:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

enwiki

...is not the only project. This needs to be generalized accordingly.  — Mike.lifeguard 14:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Double Standard

I've found fair use material uploaded to Wikipedia (this, for example). Why hasn't it been removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Icantfindanunusedusername (talk • contribs) 06:23, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Um, maybe because they allow fair use? This page is for Commons, not the English Wikipedia. ;) Rocket000 (talk) 09:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Confused

Ought there be another input option for non-free logos if in fact File:The Microsoft logo & slogan.png is properly licensed and uploaded? -- Ke4roh (talk) 12:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. It is not at all clear how to properly upload company logos, even if you are the owner! --Nhtahoe (talk) 17:13, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

No; read the page the logo is on. There is no FUR. It's NOT allowed here here based on a Fair Use Rationale. It's allowed here here based on it not being protected by copyright law. --Elvey (talk) 22:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Title of the policy

The term fair-use seems US-centric. The Wikimedia Foundation uses another term, EDP (see wikimedia:Resolution:Licensing policy). --Eleassar ^(t/p) 11:36, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Good point. What wording change do you propose?--Elvey (talk) 22:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Let's not make en editors' lives harder by leading readers to (incorrectly) think that any file that would be fair use if used on en can be used on en.

To that end, I propose this edit. Any alternate wording or counterarguments? --Elvey (talk) 22:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)