Commons talk:Freedom of panorama

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We should add a section for Crimea, because it is a disputed territory between a FOP country and a no-FOP country. -- 10:51, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

We have no info yet if Crimean buildings are OK. Should there be one, I'll mention it both in Ukraine and in Russia section. Separate sections are there only for independent states. --A.Savin 11:26, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

"non-fop" in UAE[edit]

Thousands of pictures where deleted because of assumption of non-fop. In the UAE non-fop case, an in others, there is no evidence at all, that there is a non-fop law, no evidence ist made by the ones who deleted these files. Because there is no proof of non-fop, some people here are arguing that the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works is forcing the non-fop actions. If this argument, which applies to many files, would be true, then *all* Countries, which signed the Berne Convention, would have a non-fop, and that are a lot of countries, and the people who are trying to delete all presumed non-fop pictures, should also take care of the hundred thousands of pictures from all of the countries who signed the Berne convention: all files from these countries have to be deleted from wiki commons. So, i still have no clue why some pictures are deleted and other pictures, especially the hundred thousands of photographs from the countries which signed the Berne Convention are still seen here on wiki commons.

Ronald Ali-Khan 21:46, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Photographs are typically derivative works of what they are photographing if that is a copyrighted work. The Berne Convention says they are, except that, under certain conditions, the laws of signing nations can exempt photographs from being derivative works. The US and many other nations take advantage of that exemption, but the UAE and many others don't.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:55, 29 October 2014 (UTC)