Commons talk:Non-copyright restrictions
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Every once in a while someone will argue that materials are not free enough for commons because they are subject to some law unrelated to copyright. Most established folks on Commons and other Wikimedia projects don't suffer confusion or concern over this subject, but some people do. For the benefit of these people I propose that we bless this page an the official explication. I believe this fairly represents the understanding of this issue across all of Wikimedia's projects. --Gmaxwell (talk) 23:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Support --Gmaxwell (talk) 23:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Support Of course. I've actually referenced this in a DR. I think it is good to have. --ShakataGaNai Talk 23:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Support this as an explanatory essay of policy. It should not be policy for the sole reason that we don't want to turn into Wikipedia, with a suffocating and byzantine mass of rules that aren't really necessary. Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 23:33, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I don't see any way this even could be policy now that I think of it. --ShakataGaNai Talk 02:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Careful: You're going to start sounding like enwp in pretending there are these 'policy' things and 'not policy', etc. Better to just say "This explains the commons project position." Who cares if we call it policy or not? But first we need to know that this actually explains the consensus position. --Gmaxwell (talk) 04:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sniffle, I'm hurt. Claiming me sound like en.wp. So I changed it to say "position" instead of "policy". In the end it is neither. It is just a page that helps explains image re-use for the users. In the unlikely event they ever find it. I think someone should go post about this on COM:VP or COM:AN and see what the rest of the crew thinks. Personally I like it. --ShakataGaNai Talk 04:35, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Careful: You're going to start sounding like enwp in pretending there are these 'policy' things and 'not policy', etc. Better to just say "This explains the commons project position." Who cares if we call it policy or not? But first we need to know that this actually explains the consensus position. --Gmaxwell (talk) 04:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I don't see any way this even could be policy now that I think of it. --ShakataGaNai Talk 02:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
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- On Commons, it doesn't matter too much what you call it. We have help pages that are treated like policies, and "official polices" that are usually ignored. I prefer the collective term "Common(s) practices" :) Rocket000 (talk) 06:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- :) Well once it's clear that I'm not being a rogue agent I'll link it from all the related templates... some people will find it. ;) I'll now commence with the spamming.--Gmaxwell (talk) 15:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Support. I was the one who started this page (and also, where's my edit history? I DEMAND MY EDIT HISTORY AS REQUIRED BY DA GFDL!!!111) after a little dispute over on the English Wikipedia over Trademarks being considered non-free per the definition. Alleviates confusion about this stuff. ViperSnake151 (talk) 22:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
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This has been around long enough. I have converted to a guideline. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 20:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Imported&merged history from en:
After complaints about GFDL violation by User:ViperSnake151, I imported the revision history from en: and merged it. I hope everyone is happy now. --Mormegil (talk) 09:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
For the record: All revisions until 18. 6. 2008, 21:05 (UTC) have been imported from Wikipedia, all revisions since 18. 6. 2008, 23:15 (UTC) have been created here normally. --Mormegil (talk) 09:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Non-copyright restrictions that affect Commons
Shouldn't this say that we only take non-copyright restrictions that make hosting the image on Commons itself illegal into account? Obvious as that is, the page now implies that uploaders do not need to care about personality rights, which is quite misleading. --Tgr (talk) 17:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- What do you mean with “The most important such restrictions are personality/privacy laws which do not allow Commons:photographs of identifiable people which were made in a private place, unless the depicted person gives permission.” You believe this very specific restriction is illegal in all (most?) countries? Or that this is against some specific Commons policy? Commons:Photographs of identifiable people is (intentionally, I believe) not too specific (“is often needed”, “Normally not OK” etc.), because the rules and laws are complicated and differ in various states. I don’t think the formulation should be this strict, especially the combination of this sentence with the preceding about child pornography is almost ridiculous (“the most important”? More important than those child pornography laws??). --Mormegil (talk) 20:34, 6 September 2009 (UTC)