Commons talk:Talk page guidelines

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Help:Talk page could potentially overlap quite a bit with this one. Just pointing that out... -- LeaMaimone 01:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Now redirects to Commons:Namespaces. Rd232 (talk) 22:34, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Redirecting ones talk page[edit]

Personally I have no problem with that. Just click on the link and go to the talk page, paste the message... you can sign with "commons:User:Fred_J" and five tildes. / Fred J 07:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

That of course leaves you with the choice of disclosing your IP address or go through the registration and login process on the other site. It also makes it easy for others to pose as you.
However, a more important question is: how would you leave an {{image source}}, {{copyvionote}}, or {{idw}} notice on a non-Commons site? Edit the template, copy the source code, paste it into the off-Commons talk page, and add all links to relevant Commons pages manually? Placing that burden, as well as the burden of identifying any previous Commons-related messages the user may have received mixed in with non-Commons-related messages, is simply not reasonable. Commons-related conversations belong on Commons. It's really that simple.
For people who can't be bothered checking their Commons talk page, the solution is simple: enable e-mail notifications. It takes exactly three (3) clicks and saves other Commons users the hassle of manually going to a site unrelated to Commons (possibly in a foreign language with a foreign character set and direction of writing), manually copying and customising a template, manually hacking a signature or registering an account, and somehow watching the non-Commons-related site for responses to the Commons-related message.
LX (talk, contribs) 18:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

File talk[edit]

I would like to propose expanding this guideline with some information regarding File talk pages. During my activities patrolling anonymous edits I often notice anonymous users putting questions, information, statements, comments, suggestions, feedback, and god knows what else in other languages of which I am uncertain what exactly to do with it and if it should be kept on the file talk page.

It does feel like it doesn't belong there, but does it serve any purpose adding a heading, a signature and perhaps a response ? I've never had a single response to such talkpage messages since the anonymous user probably didn't expect an answer but just wanted to leave a note.

Though I couldn't find any good examples (I'll add later if I find some) - here are a few [1][2][3][4]. –Krinkletalk 17:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Check for example the latest anonymous File-talk contributions. –Krinkletalk 17:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I totally agree with you! That is a really good suggestion. In fact, 40-50% of talk-pages are useless. I guess, we should really think about a guideline. abf «Cabale!» 18:19, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I think the general guideline that out-of-scope stuff is deleted should do, but wouldn't it be more helpful to add an edit notice to file talk namespace explaining what it's for. -- User:Docu at 07:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
BTW, except maybe sample #4 by Krinkle, these talk page seem better than the usual stuff and IMHO what talk pages are for. -- User:Docu at 07:12, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

delete comments after they have responded[edit]

In the section Can_I_do_whatever_I_want_to_my_own_user_talk_page, it is said that Others delete comments after they have responded to them. Is this a good policy? If the messages are deleted, it is a long and tedious job to search for messages in the diff. Although English wiki does not disallow deleting the contents either (Wikipedia:User_talk_page#Removal_of_comments.2C_notices.2C_and_warnings), there at least it is said that archiving is preferred. I think we should give preference to archiving here as well. --Sreejith K (talk) 08:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree. The observation (rather than recommendation) that some users delete comments after they have responded to them dates back to 2005. Today, it is the exception rather than the rule, and for good reason.
  • Administrators and others use user talk pages (or their archives) as one part of the process of evaluating the credibility of source and authorship information when reviewing uploads. (Authorship claims from users with lots of warnings for copyright violations naturally need a more critical evaluation than those from a user with a spotless history.)
  • Our deletion policy encourages administrators to check whether the uploader was notified of the deletion discussion, but it is unrealistic to expect them to dig through history diffs.
  • The what links here? feature only works with current versions of pages (including archives but not historical diffs), so finding all old discussions relating to a file or other page becomes difficult if users blank discussions instead of archiving them.
  • Hiding the talk page history may also mean that one receives messages or questions about the same issue several times, which can annoying for both the sender and the recipient.
LX (talk, contribs) 15:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Since removing warning's from a user's talk page is not encouraged until the deletion discussion or deletion is finished, once the deletion request or warning is considered and responded, the user have the freedom to remove the warning notices from their talk page (after the discussion process), A log can tell the user's history of copyright violations rather than looking into diff's...current policy seems to be okay --...Captain......Tälk tö me.. 09:02, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree with you if it is a deletion notice or warning, but user messages has to be treated differently. --Sreejith K (talk) 10:20, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
That only addresses some of the problems that I mentioned. Furthermore, the current guidelines (not policy) only mention blanking after responding. Under the current guidelines, it's fine to respond "ok, noted" to a deletion notice and then blank it. (Of course, in practice, those in the habit of blanking talk pages usually don't respond at all.) There is no indication that deletion notices must be left in place for the duration of the deletion discussion. LX (talk, contribs) 10:35, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Arbitration?[edit]

"this can become an issue in arbitration or other formal proceedings"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it does not exist here. Remove? NVO (talk) 04:26, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Blanking[edit]

I think we could use some binding words of wisdom on the subject. Palosirkka (talk) 07:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)