Commons talk:Timed Text

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Ogg Kate[edit]

Why isn't Ogg Kate discussed? VolodyA! V Anarhist Beta_M (converse) 18:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

How to give timecodes??[edit]

Ok, I give up. I read about the new video support and thought I'd give it a go - but cannot find a way that isn't totally manual for getting the timecodes to match the text to the video. I just transcribed this video File:ABC ATMs.ogv here [1]. I manually made the first line's worth of timecoding but I cannot see the "unversal subtitles editor" anywhere. How do I create the timecodes? Wittylama (talk) 02:40, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Where did you find talk of this "unversal subtitles editor"? I have been doing the timecodes manually since 2009, and all I've seen is the manual edit method, and links to subtitling programs that I've never tried. Anyway, I completed the timecodes for File:ABC ATMs.ogv (see history) and they seem to work in both Opera logged in and Firefox not logged in. I was experiencing severe lags, pauses and restarts with other timed text files so I used yours as a test. -84user (talk) 16:01, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Three big problems with the subtitles on Commons[edit]

I am trying to subtitle some clips of artists in the Eurovision Song Contest 2013 presenting themselves, and I've found some problems. I write the subtitles in the online tool Amara, and there I manage to sync the text to the clip. Then I copy the SRT-text to the subtitles page on Commons.

  • Problem one: The text is not synced to the video when looking at the result on Commons. I have also tried looking at the timecode in my video editing software, and it is not at all similar to the timecode in the same clip uploaded to Commons. I have to manually adjust the text, save, watch, adjust it some more, save, watch over and over again, and that brings us to:
  • Problem two: The "Show preview" function is not available on the subtitles pages. Therefore there are a lot of edits on my subtitles pages. That's annoying.
  • Problem three: When manually adjusting the text I've noticed there is too much time difference between 00,999 and 01,000. Why is that? In many of my videos I've noticed a line of text is shown too early if I set the time to 01,999, but it's shown too late if I set the time to 02,000. How is that possible?

-abbedabbdisk 15:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

There seems to be an problem with the kultura html 5 player. Maybe you could file a bug on bugzilla:? --McZusatz (talk) 17:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Hmm... Maybe. It's so complicated. But I'll try. -abbedabbdisk 17:59, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Please post the link to the bug report here. Let me know if you have problems, otherwise. --McZusatz (talk) 18:31, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Here they are:
Problem one: Bug 49406 - Text sync varies between Commons and other players
Problem two: Bug 49408 - Huge difference between 00,999 and 01,000 in TimedText
Problem three: Bug 49409 - No video on previewing TimedText changes
-abbedabbdisk 20:39, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the links and the bug reports. --McZusatz (talk) 21:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Redirect[edit]

My test of a #REDIRECT on TimedText:Wikipedia_Edit2014.ogv.en.srt failed miserably, but as I'm on GPRS bandwidth at the moment this is no conclusive observation (image annotations and other AJAX tricks also fail until they somehow make it into the browser cache after many manual reloads.) –Be..anyone (talk) 09:52, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Be..anyone I fail to understand what you were attempting, and also I have limited understanding of how things were supposed to work. What were you doing, what did you think would happen, and what happened? Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:32, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Hmmm, I see problems with Wikimedia's mobile version but not this particular problem. I am reinstating be..anyone's redirect attempt and test myself for a few minutes. -84user (talk) 02:39, 6 January 2015 (UTC) UPDATE redirect works in Firefox Windows 8, no plugins, just javascript, network limited to 100 Kbits per second, HTML5 player runs, CC button gives list of all language timed texts. -84user (talk) 02:45, 6 January 2015 (UTC) When I switch video file format from webm 480 to Ogg 480 or Ogg 160, the CC button no longer has any effect, and also when returning back to Webm 480 - no subtitles! Subtitle functionality only returned when I clicked Menu and chose another HTML5 web player from the list. I'll continue but with network speed of 500 Kbit/second as 100 is nigh on unusable even with the low bandwidth Ogg 160 format.-84user (talk) 02:58, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Final update: Well, there are definitely user interface problems with the player on wikimedia, but I do not think it's the redirect because the same issuess present with the target timed text file. I suggest others test various combinations of player control pushes to see the problems, but it's too frustrating for me to continue - each time I changed the HTML5 player the current video continued playing unpauseable and unseekable until closing the whole browser tab, the download control is clunky and only save link as works and only downloads to an index.php file. -84user (talk) 03:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
@Bluerasberry:, I tested (and reverted after an apparent FAIL outcome) a redirect instead of a stupid copy in the TimedText namespace. Apparently 84user found that the redirect actually works as designed/documented, thanks. –Be..anyone (talk) 08:24, 6 January 2015 (UTC)