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[edit] Customization Question

I would like to use commonist to upload multiple pictures to a personal wiki. Since my wiki is my own, it doesn't show up on the list of servers for upload. How can I customize this part of the program? Thanks!

-penf0ld

Hi the relevant parts are in the mwapi plugin you can find the project definitions inside lib/mwapi-src.jar of the commonist package. Have a look at the sub directory source/net/psammead/mwapi/config and the various definition files in there (Families.bsh and the single project defintion files). I haven't played with them on my own so I can't give you further details. Simply have a look there and as they're beanshell text files I think after playing a little bit around with it you will be able modifying it in the way you like. Arnomane 19:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
have a look at the website, this changed a bit. support for new wikis can be added without altering mwapi.jar and there's no beanshell code involved any more. -- 84.153.77.157
I have a similar request. I want to upload images to fr.wikisource.org and it is not in the list. The file mentioned above doesn't exist in my version of Commonist I downloaded today (0.2.7). Yann 19:17, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
fr.wikisource.org is supported since version 0.2.8. -- 84.153.77.157


[edit] Nested licensing templates

I just learned (Commons:Help desk#New user feedback request (and questions)) that it's preferable to have the license template come after, rather than nested inside, {{information}}. The permissions field would have text only, according to the responses I'm receiving there. Would it be useful for me to try to submit a patch? -- JVinocur 12:36, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes just go ahead sending a patch. I'm sure it will be appreciated. Arnomane 22:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Okay, this turned out to be easy to fix, even though I don't quite understand what mixture of programming languages is even being used here! For comparison, look at the Permission fields:
And here's the patch: [elided, see old version of this page if necessary -- JVinocur 15:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)]
-- JVinocur 03:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Ookay for those of us that aren't even programming novices how do we get this into the version of commonist we are now using Gnangarra 04:52, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, read at Wikipedia:diff and Wikipedia:patch (Unix). (Very briefly, start at a commandline and get yourself into the "script" subdirectory inside your commonist source tree, save the above into a text file called commonist-license.patch, and run the command patch < commonist-license.patch.) -- JVinocur 06:18, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Resolution

A new version of commonist (site - download 0.1.18 - changes.txt) was released to fix this issue. Thanks to the author for being so quick.

Gnangarra, that should save you from having to learn how to apply patches...for now :-) -- JVinocur 15:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Very nice. Thanks a lot for your improvement. :-) Arnomane 22:31, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Feature request: info from EXIF tags

I just put a lot of effort into putting authorship & licensing info and extensive description into EXIF tags in files I want to upload. Now I'll have to put all the info again into Commonist fields for each image. There are free packages to read EXIF info, could you please add this feature? Helix84 14:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Please email this idea directly to the Commonist programmer. I am just a user that wrote this tutorial here. ;-) Arnomane 15:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, I did. ~~helix84 20:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Automatic gallery

For every upload session the software automatic creates a gallery under a headline in the User:XXX/gallery directory. But I would like to be able to define what Commonist writes in these headlines and maybe disable the feature completely. --|EPO| 16:06, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, indeed a nice feature. I would like to go one step further and to be enabled to create a subpage on my like User:me/%mygalleryname%. --Wendelin 19:22, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

This feature is buggy, though. Templates should not be put included in the text box. Because of that, you cannot use any templates that contain categories (i. e. all "Creator:"-Templates), since your Gallery page then shows up in all these categories. I have to manually delete my gallery after every commonist upload because of that, which is a great nuisance. Personally, I would like to disable the feature altogether (no use IMHO, since we now have the toolserver tools). Any idea how to do this? --AndreasPraefcke 20:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No security with java

I'm sure, that this program is sure, but my firewall sends warn messages if I use Java, 'cause other programs can cause damge on your system, Jlorenz1 12:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can't install Java 1.5

Other programmes on this machine require JSEE 1.4. Is there any way to get an older version to work? --Flominator 14:59, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Commonist does not work

Commonist does not work anymore (can't log in). Is that connected to the captcha forms that Common uses? --AndreasPraefcke 10:49, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Works for me since a couple of weeks. (novice user, worked first time right (I was amazed)) --Foroa 13:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Miraculously (or not: i finally was able to download the long-broken latest zip archive and re-install), it works again. Thanks to everybody who tried to help. --AndreasPraefcke 11:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] redirect problem

when uploading files to my local wiki installation (german) i get the following output in the commandline-window.


INFO: Redirect requested but followRedirects is disabled
debug   net.psammead.mwapi.MediaWiki    HTTP POST http://localhost/wiki/index.php HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
error   net.psammead.commonist.task.UploadFilesTask     upload failed: Amethyst.jpg
net.psammead.mwapi.UnexpectedAnswerException: unexpected response data (SimpleAction)
status  HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently

file-pages are created,but no files uploaded. what is the problem here?

--FLAIMO 2007-07-09 —The preceding incompletely signed comment was added by Flaimo (talk • contribs) at 13:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

You probably have to enable "followRedirects", but I don't know how do do that. Please try contacting the author via Commons:Tools/Commonist#Bugs and feedback.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] So how does this work

I unpacked it, I have Java installed. Where the heck is the program? It won't start, there doesn't appear to be an obvious icon to click to start it, it doesn't appear to function at all. Can anyone tell me what I did wrong. I try to open the file titled commonist (which my computer doesn't register as a recognized file type) and it does nothing, asks me what to open it with, I say Java and nothing happens. What do I do? IvoShandor 20:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, I will just try the other program. IvoShandor 20:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
This is explained at the fourth point at Installation:
  • On Unix/Linux/Mac-OSX you can run Commonist by executing bin/commonist below the commonist-x.x.x directory, on Windows start it with bin\commonist.bat below the commonist-x.x.x directory.
--|EPO| da: 07:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Upload problem

I have had some problems uploading photos since yesterday. The last photo I successfully uploaded was 2 days ago. I have since been getting these errors. On the hardware end, I am using the exact same computer with no new hardware or software installed, but I am located at a different physical location and am therefore hooked onto a different wireless network. I don't see how that would affect anything, though. I went to try to upload manually but noticed that my preferred license (CC-BY-SA-2.5) no longer exists all its own -- they all require GFDL, which I do not necessarily favor (it's too wordy and not as user-friendly as CC). Is that the problem, or can anyone identify another possible cause for my errors? Thanks! --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 16:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried {{self2|GFDL|cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0}} and the latest version?   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 06:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I run it via webstart and prefer not to use GFDL. Has anything on Wikimedia's end changed recently over the last couple days that would require GFDL? --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 02:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Also, no luck trying out GFDL w/ cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 02:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
It looks like the Filename Prefix Blacklist may be the culprit, per my post in the Village Pump. Can Commonist find a way to bypass the warning message? --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 00:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I am having the exact same problem, i was uploading 37 files last week and it only uploaded 14 of them, since then, i have not been able to upload anymore files. I have not touched anything of my system's configuration or anything. I have upgraded to the latest version of commonist available 0.3.15 and it keeps telling me that uploading a file with this name is forbidden, while if i upload it manually its ok. ¿any ideas? Thanks for your help.-rafax 13:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adding your own site

Here are the confusing original directions at: http://www.djini.de/software/commonist/


adding a wiki
this works with the webstart version and the zipfile version.
unpack lib/mwapi.jar from the unpacked binary zip into a new directory
look for commons.family and commons.site in this directory
create a directory $HOME/.commonist/family
copy commons.family to $HOME/.commonist/family/NAME.family
copy commons.site to $HOME/.commonist/family/NAME.site
adapt these two files.


Here are my instructions which at this point are probably very wrong, but are a little easier to understand than the insturctions above. With a little help, we can rewrite these directions for everyone to understand.

FIRST Find the file: mwapi.jar located in the folder lib (bin/lib/mwapi.jar)

SECOND

 Unpack this file using winrar or winzip, into a new folder

THIRD

 In these new unpacked folders (org, net, META-INF), search for:
commons.family
and
commons.site

FOURTH

 Create a new folder in your commonist folder called "family"
FIFTH copy commons.family to your new family folder
copy commons.site to your new family folder
SIXTH "adapt these two files." <<< ??? HOW ?????

I changed the name of the files, and also replaced the word "common" with my site name. what next?


Example of what I did:

commons.site to newwebsite.site
and
commons.family to newwebsite.family

It simply doesnt work. Nothing new shows up on the list of sites which you can upload too.

According to this listserv:

commonist and can be used to mass upload files into a wiki application. It took me a while to get it running because you need a special editor (like vi) on Windows systems to edit the .family and .site files.

True?

Text of commons.sites:

## configuration for a single wiki site

# identification
family	commons

# network
protocol	http://
hostName	commons.wikimedia.org
rawPath	/w/index.php
prettyPath	/wiki/
apiPath	/w/api.php

# config
charSet	UTF-8
titleCase	first-letter
uselang	nds

# nameSpaces
nameSpace	-2	'Media'
nameSpace	-1	'Special'
nameSpace	0	''
nameSpace	1	'Talk'
nameSpace	2	'User'
nameSpace	3	'User talk'
nameSpace	4	'Commons'
nameSpace	5	'Commons talk'
nameSpace	6	'Image'
nameSpace	7	'Image talk'
nameSpace	8	'MediaWiki'
nameSpace	9	'MediaWiki talk'
nameSpace	10	'Template'
nameSpace	11	'Template talk'
nameSpace	12	'Help'
nameSpace	13	'Help talk'
nameSpace	14	'Category'
nameSpace	15	'Category talk'
nameSpace	100	'Creator'
nameSpace	101	'Creator talk'

# specialPages
specialPage	'Blockip'	'Blockip'
specialPage	'Filepath'	'Filepath'
specialPage	'Movepage'	'Movepage'
specialPage	'Upload'	'Upload'
specialPage	'Userlogin'	'Userlogin'
specialPage	'Userlogout'	'Userlogout'

# messages
message	addedwatch	'To de Oppasslist toföögt'
message	badfilename	'De Bildnaam is na „$1“ ännert worrn.'
message	cannotdelete	'De Software kunn de angevene Siet nich wegsmieten. (Mööglicherwies is de al vun en annern wegsmeten worrn.)'
message	confirmrecreate	'De Bruker [[{{NS:2}}:$1|$1]] ([[{{NS:3}}:$1|talk]]) hett disse Siet wegsmeten, nadem du dat Ännern anfungen hest. He hett as Grund schreven:\n: \'\'$2\'\'\nWist du de Siet würklich nee anleggen?'
message	delete_and_move_text	'==Deletion required==\n\nThe destination article "[[$1]]" already exists. Do you want to delete it to make way for the move?'
message	fileexists	'En Datei mit dissen Naam existeert al, prööv $1, wenn du di nich seker büst of du dat ännern wullst.'
message	filetype-badmime	'Datein vun den MIME-Typ „$1“ dröfft nich hoochlaadt warrn.'
message	filetype-badtype	'\'\'\'".$1"\'\'\' is an unwanted file type\n: List of allowed file types: $2'
message	filetype-missing	'The file has no extension (like ".jpg").'
message	filewasdeleted	'A file of this name has been previously uploaded and subsequently deleted. You should check the $1 before proceeding to upload it again.'
message	large-file	'It is recommended that files are no larger than $1; this file is $2.'
message	largefileserver	'This file is bigger than the server is configured to allow.'
message	loginsuccess	'Du büst nu as „$1“ bi {{SITENAME}} anmellt.'
message	logouttext	'Du büst nu afmellt. Du kannst {{SITENAME}} nu anonym wiederbruken oder di ünner en annern Brukernaam wedder anmellen.'
message	nosuchuser	'De Brukernaam „$1“ existeert nich.\nPrööv de Schrievwies oder mell di as niegen Bruker an.'
message	removedwatch	'De Siet is nich mehr op de Oppasslist'
message	spamprotectionmatch	'Dit Text hett den Spamschild utlöst: $1'
message	successfulupload	'Datei hoochladen hett Spood'
message	talkexists	'Dat Schuven vun de Siet sülvst hett Spood, aver dat Schuven vun de\nDiskuschoonssiet nich, vun wegen dat dor al en Siet mit dissen Titel existeert. De Inholt muss vun Hand anpasst warrn.'
message	talkpagemoved	'De Diskuschoonssiet is ok schuven worrn.'
message	talkpagenotmoved	'De Diskuschoonssiet is <strong>nich</strong> schuven worrn.'
message	uploadcorrupt	'De Datei is korrupt oder hett en falsch Ennen. Datei pröven un nieg hoochladen.'
message	uploaddisabled	'Dat Hoochladen is deaktiveert.'
message	uploadnologintext	'Du musst [[Special:Userlogin|anmellt wesen]], dat du Datein hoochladen kannst.'
message	uploadscripted	'In disse Datei steiht HTML- oder Skriptkood in, de vun welk Browsers verkehrt dorstellt oder utföhrt warrn kann.'
message	uploadvirus	'In de Datei stickt en Virus! Mehr: $1'
message	wrongpassword	'Dat Passwoort, wat du ingeven hest, is verkehrt. Kannst dat aver noch wedder versöken.'

text of commons.family

## configuration for a whole wiki family

# identification
name	commons
shortcut	c

# languages
multilingual	false

So far, is this correct? thanks 68.90.182.17 22:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks you helped me, but there are some steps you got wrong. I've been able to refine it and I posted my experiences here Commons:Tools/Commonist/Other_Wikis. --Michael180 16:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Geocoding

I have been asking the Geocoding crowd, on an acceptable way of using Commonist to upload images with location information. The discussion is here : Commons talk:Geocoding. ClemRutter 21:29, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I just started tagging my photos with geocoding -- I stick the template into the description area. It's a tad messy, but I figure that someday a bot will come by and fix it (all hail bots!). It would definitely be handy to have a field where we could enter in coordinates, but there are just so many different formats out there: there'd have to be some coordination of some sort to find formats that could translate easily into Commonist. For example, would the input field understand template brackets {{}}, or would I have to manually enter in every coordinate number? Commonist would have to make sure that more work doesn't become necessary. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 22:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I am doing the same. I have one window open with Google Earth and another with commonist. I cut and paste a {{location dec|lat|long}} fom one description to the next, then check the new coord on GE, and edit it in. Oh for a control key or a right click in commonist that would insert the location template tag. Oh for a control key or a right click in Google that would save the coordinate to the clipboard in Commonist format/. ClemRutter 13:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Get the placemark mentioned here -- sounds like it'll help cut down your alt-tabbing. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 21:29, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Login problems

I cannot get to Commonist to log in anymore, this despite having no problems logging in manually. Any ideas what the deal is here? IvoShandor 21:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

It didn't like me, because of router for some reason, All fixed. IvoShandor 21:08, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uploads from catalogues or museum visits

I often upload images from museum catalogues or pictures taken at the museum itself. This creates the problem, that each individual image has an individual author, was created at a different date and has, in addition to the common source, i.e. the book I scanned from, or the museum I visited, individual source informations, i.e. the place where the picture scanned usually hangs. So therefore it would come handy if the information "source", "date", "author" could also be repeated in the individual image block. Also is it possible to copy and paste when working within the commonist frame? --Wuselig 09:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

In response to your last sentence: with Windows you can use CTRL-C and CTRL-V to copy/paste; and CTRL-X to cut. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 23:37, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I thougt it was CTRL-C and CTRL-P. So naturally it wouldn't work. Let's hope somebody comes up with just as easy an answer for the first sentences. --Wuselig 23:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Your first question- the answer is no. But there are ways to make life easier. I have a text file called "Scraps". It has an icon at the bottom right of my desktop- so it is always there. Click the icon and Wordpad or Notepad or TextEdit opens the file. When I am working I Copy text from Commonist (or any program) and paste it to "Scraps" (de:Stückchen), so that when I have entered a Museum Name, or a Artists name in the common area- I cut and paste it to 'scraps' and I can use it later that night, or next week or next year. This saves a lot of typing- as all your regular sources- etc are reusable.
Another tip is that CTRL-Z is the undo key and Ctrl-Y is the redo key.
Ahh yes, I do that same thing... hoorah for Notepad! :) --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 01:59, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Now that copy and paste is no problem anymore I will test this with the next upload. --Wuselig 08:17, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Feature Request:Stamping

I would like a button, that would take all the text I have typed, and stamp it into a textfile on the local disk. The reasons being:

  • gives me a index of my photo collection in a format I understand
  • Commonist could be used offline for adding metadata to my photo collection
  • when Microsoft 'helpfully' installs a security update at 4 in the morning and restarts my machine, I can recover the Commonist session that I was working on, and had left open.

This also implies having button called restore. Data format should be csv, and the save process will save first generic details(left data)-blank field for other fields(right data). Then all the photos would be processed. Selected photos would aggregate Leftdata with rightdate and write both. Unselected photos would just write right-data. Saves would be data time stamped, so wouldn't overwrite each other. Recovers would give file choice using a combobox select in reverse date order. I can also imagine the addition of a print button, but am unsure of the format of the output. This would take the csv file and convert it to paper for those of us, who use the stuff. ClemRutter 14:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)tweaked ClemRutter


I wouldn't mind it for all the times I mis-click onto that happy little "X" at the top right of the window. Another aid may be to issue a prompt when you click on the X whilst text is entered into the individual image boxes. The prompt could basically be just "Are you sure you wish to quit?" --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 03:16, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I am still hoping.ClemRutter 10:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes still.--ClemRutter (talk) 15:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Could not login to commons

I just spent the last couple of hours installing, learning about this program and entering all of the requested information for 16 pictures. When I click the Upload button, I get "could not login to commons". I'm able to login just fine to the website, so I know I'm using the correct user and password. I'm not behind a proxy. Could it be because this is a new account? I just signed up at Commons a couple of days ago. Any suggestions? I really hate to lose all this work I did. Sanfranman59 08:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Copy and paste the metadata to a textfile ( a pain- I know ) and try again with one picture on another machine. It should work eventually. ClemRutter 10:45, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. I left Commonist running on my system last night and tried uploading again this morning. This time it worked but it had the message "could not update gallery (store secondy [sic] try not successfulstatusHTTP/1.0 200 OK)". I have no idea what that message means but my photos are out there. What does the message mean? Is it common for it not to be able to connect? Sanfranman59 16:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I am not an expert on the servers that commons use, but I have seen several warnings and error messages so I am building up a mental model of what may be happening. Imagine that you have 20 servers- with many disks holding the images- one holding details of users- and one holding indexes (indices) and the tags etc. One server's data will be duplicated on other servers. If one drive goes down, the system switches in another drive, rescuing what it can. This takes time and a backlog builds up. You tried to log in, the user database server was failing to cope- so it ignored you. First error message. When it had handled the backlog- it saw you and logged you in. But the server holding your gallery hadn't caught up so it didn'r update your gallery- throwing an error message- it tried a second time throwing error message- another server confirmed that it had successfully received the error message using the HTTP protocol ie Code 200. So we have two servers talking to each other. I would be very surprised if this explanation is vaguely accurate but it does convey a vague idea of the complexity of server network- and as I said yesterday It should work eventually! Commonist is addictive; uploading is speeded up 10 fold.ClemRutter 01:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Sorry if this sounds like a typical response from tech support, but I can't begin to say how many times I overlook the obvious: make sure you are entering your account password before clicking on the upload button. Next, turn off torrents or any other bandwidth-hungry applications. Commonist seems pretty touchy about having all the bandwidth for itself. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 05:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ignore warnings

Can we get an option to ignore warnings during upload? I just got a 12 MP camera and a the photos skirt around 5 MB, which is where the warning begins for file sizes. The warning fails my uploads through Commonist, so it'd be nice if Commonist could automatically ignore warnings. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 06:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Can't login to commons

Can't login due to the following issue: net.psammead.mwapi.ui.UnexpectedAnswerException: unexpected response data (UiSimpleActionBase). I'm sure it's not a CAPTCHA problem. Any ideas? Ilya Voyager 12:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Try restarting the program. I've found that I can upload just once and then I have to reopen it. Yes, it's very annoying and it's only started doing this within the past week or so... all I can offer is this short-term fix; I'd dearly love for someone to figure out what broke. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 23:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Exactly the same problem here. The first batch works ok, after that you get the error message mentioned above. Closing and restarting works, but nothing else. --AndreasPraefcke 08:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Same here. I already emailed the author. --Flominator 05:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Very annoying problem, since restart deletes all entries made under the specific images. So I learned the hard way not to do multiple batches at the moment. --Wuselig 07:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Whenever I forget about this, I open a second Commonist while my first one is still open. I resize them so I have both windows beside each other, then I just cut/paste from the first to the second. I'll post this in the Village Pump to see if any of them recognise what might be happening... I don't think anyone's changed anything with Commonist; rather I think it might have been something that changed with Wikimedia itself. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 11:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the last assumption that it is a Wikipediaproblem. When I try to safe changes in Wikipedia in 2/3 of the time I get an error warning that changes can't be made at the moment, because the servers have to match up, or something to this respect. Than you have to hit your browser back button and hope your changes are still there to be able to try to safe anew. I have resorted to copy my changes into the temporary memory as in copy and paste in order to be able to paste should the change get lost. As Thisisboss pointed out, such an all over copy paste isn't possible with commonist. You have to do this with the entry of each single image. I hope they get this server problem fixed fast.--Wuselig 12:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Commonist forces UI language of Mediawiki to nds (Plattdüütsch), as you can see in file commons.site at preference "uselang nds". Messages in the file are in this language also. Commonist uses the messages to recognize success of actual action. And there is the problem. First login page is correctly in desired language. But second attempt to log in is proceed in situation, when user is already logged in! Therefore second login page is returned in language determined by user's preferences. And Commonist is not able to handle pages in such language.

Workaround: When commonist fails to login, don't restart him. Set language in preferences of your commons account to nds (Plattdüütsch). Start again the upload at commonist. --RuM 00:35, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I am no programming nerd and what you say may be a way to get around the problem for all users. But I believe most users here will agree that nds (Plattdüütsch) is not the most commonly used prefered language around here. So I think it will be eassier to solve the problem by choosing a more widely used language (hey, how about English?) in the Commonist code. Your approach seems to be the usual way of programmers to solve bugs: Don't solve the problem, but find an add-on to get around the problem. Which of course creates new problems which again will have to be circumnavigated. Do I have to go on? --Wuselig 07:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
As I said, it is only workaround, temporary fix, not a real one. It can only help people to bypass the problem and continue actual uploading (user can change language to nds and change it back after the upload). I agree, that more serious solution is needed, but I am not a programmer of Commonist nor Mediawiki so I cannot do much more. --RuM 13:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Platdüütsch od Plätdenglisch- the problem is worse now. I cannot login at all.ClemRutter 23:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

the commonist adds a uselang=nds-parameter for all requests so it can parse the resulting HTML. this is broken since [1] because the page returned after logging in now is displayed in the default language of the user and the uselang-parameter is ignored. -- 84.152.119.35 23:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

this should work again with [2] active. -- 84.152.123.158 14:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Well. I can now do an initial login- but not a repeat login. ClemRutter 15:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

@RuM: thank you very much, the workaround does work perfectly for me. It's even kind of fun to have that user interface... Has anyone opened a bug report for this (IMHO wrong) behaviour of the Commons to overwrite the language requested in the login dialogue? I'd like to vote for it to have it fixed ASAP. --AndreasPraefcke 19:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SUL issue and solution

Don't know if I'm unique on this but Commonist and the Single-User-Login have a slight issue.
Login to wikipedia -> open commons (SUL has me logged in here now) -> run commonist -> uploads fail as I'm not logged into commons. The solution is to logout and back in on commons the rerun commonist. Just information for anyone else who runs into the same problem - Peripitus 11:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Same here. Commonist seems to upload, but the file is not on the Commons afterwards. Only if I logout and login on Commons, Commonist seems to work ok (in the nds-language version). It's about time we find some other way to upload multiple files, since Commonist doesn't work more often than it does. --AndreasPraefcke 10:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Just checked again - this is not a commonist error but a mediawiki error. Tried the same steps but using the "Upload file" link....end up logging me out and uploading does not work - Peripitus 13:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, the Commonist part of the error is that Commonist does not notice that nothing has been uploaded at all. --AndreasPraefcke 16:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
i'll look into this. in the mean time, please vote for bug 14210 and then press the devs to add file upload to the API. without a machine friendly interface it's quite difficult for any upload tool to work reliably without constantly fixing problems. btw, is the login-bug mentioned above already fixed or do you still need to change your language to nds to login a second time? -- ∂ (talk) 03:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yet another login problem

Once again, there's a problem with logging into Commons using this. I type in the password correctly, but I get "could not log into commons." I try logging into Commons manually, that works fine, but I think this may have to do with the fact you need to look at and type what's in a picture. Anyone have a workaround this? ——Mr. Matté — 'pedia talk 16:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

this should work now, even for multiple consecutive uploads. -- 84.152.58.226

[edit] Please, do not use the date of my computer for uploadet gallerys

I try some progs... ;-P --84.141.221.42 00:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Documentation edit

I have done a heavy edit of the project page, trying to simplify the English so it is clear and not ambiguous. I hope I haven't offended. After months of use, I finally discovered that you can and are encouraged to rename files, a task I had always done using a third party program. I had missed the description totally. So I set about rewriting it. The previous writing style was elegant but with commas and stripping out modal constructions and conditionals it is now shorter and easier to understand. Further simplifications are still possible.ClemRutter (talk) 00:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Use Commonist on arwikisource

Hi. I would like to use Commonist on AR wikisource but it is not included in the drop list, what should i do? please give me a hint. --Ciphers (talk) 15:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Use Commonist on localhost

Hello, I need help, don't get commonist working for for my localhost MyWiki. More here: Commons_talk:Tools/Commonist/Other_Wikis--WikipediaMaster (talk) 10:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Please update

Very helpful tool but can you add the license option {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-3.0}}?--Tlrmq (talk) 20:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, it's very easy to do that by yourself: you just have to add this template to commonist-0.3.40/etc/licenses.txt (just copy/paste another line and make the change you wish). Hope this helps. Peter17 (talk) 16:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Overwriting

Does this tool allow overwriting/updating of previously uploaded images? I keep getting an error when I try..see User:Smallman12q/gallery.Smallman12q (talk) 22:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Is it broken?

I have a tone of images to upload with Commonist, but uploading function on Commons seemed broken yesterday, and Commonist does not currently work. --Caspian blue 15:35, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] UnexpectedAnswerException unexpected response data

Using latest version, got this: UnexpectedAnswerException unexpected response data (UiSimpleActionBase) status HTTP/1.0 200 OK. Look here for details.--Kozuch (talk) 16:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Here the Same. Willow (talk) 17:33, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone have a link to older version of program (0.3.40 or older)? I suspect this problem came with the new version???--Kozuch (talk) 20:16, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Does not work with 0.3.28 either. Something seems broken. --89.244.184.237 08:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia rolled some updates to all sites just about two days ago, that might be the problem.--Kozuch (talk) 15:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I have 0.3.32, and that also doesn't work today, but did before. It's not a Commonist problem. There is something going on with uploading at the moment. Reuploading files is also broken at present. Inductiveload (talk) 22:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I have been experiencing the same problems for days already. It would be nice to get some feedback here from the side of the developers if the problem is beeing looked at and if a solution is in sight. Or if there is an alternative for mass-uploads to Commonist that we should be looking into. --Rainer Halama (talk) 21:43, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Is there anyone to inform? Have they been informed?--JIrate (talk) 11:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Brion is informed [3]. He is the right person for server side problems. The developer of commonist seems difficult to contact. --Kolossos (talk) 17:26, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Seems to be fixed.--JIrate (talk) 13:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes it is fixed, and I like to thank everybody that helped to get the job done. --Wuselig (talk) 07:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
No, for me. I have this message «UnexpectedAnswerException unexpected response data (UiSimpleActionBase) status HTTP/1.0 200 OK » and «could not log from Commons ». Vi..Cult... (talk) 09:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] localization

A Bot is going through changing the files that I have uploaded via commonist, as far as I can tell to conform to the latest standard. Is any update likely? Here is the bots msg. (BOT - Changes to allow localization: Licensing: → Licensing; Summary → Summary;) Also is there any chance of a save function so that I can save half way through setting up a batch? --JIrate (talk) 18:59, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "Uploaded with Commonist" category or Commonist template

Hey there, seems like we need to promote this tool still - seems like people still dont know about it (see this for example). It would be nice if someone comes accross a photo uploaded by Commonist that he/she could see it was uploaded with the tool - this would help a lot IMO.--Kozuch (talk) 10:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, I did create a cat: Category:Uploaded with Commonist. Could the cat be added as a default category for all uploads???--Kozuch (talk) 10:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure that this is really useful. Our description pages are full with babels and the category will be so huge that nobody can use it. I would prefer a babel for my user-page: "This user use Commonist for upload." --Kolossos (talk) 18:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Full ack. --Flominator (talk) 16:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
How about a link to the tool on the Commons:Upload page? I still think the tool needs to improve its usability (easier installation). mahanga (talk) 03:57, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
You dont need to install it, just run it remotely (link provided on project page). Regarding category, it is not as important as a template {{Commonist}} that I created. Regarding the Upload page, I made a request here already.--Kozuch (talk) 07:07, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Could not update gallery

I just uploaded File:Phila frankford00.png with Commonist, and I received a message that Commonist "could not update gallery (cannot use template:jar... etc.).

Can someone tell me what I did wrong?--Davidt8 (talk) 18:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I am afraid you did nothing wrong. I am afraid we have another communist bug. Because my communist uploads also don't load into my gallery. Which is very regrettable, because one of the main reasons I use communist is to keep my mass uploads manageable in an easy to access archive,i.e. my gallery sorted by upload time and context of upload. --Wuselig (talk) 22:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Does every image upload fail, or only large images? All the images I uploaded today were PNG format and greater than 4 Megabytes. Usually my uploads are JPG and a lot smaller than that. Perhaps I will try some other uploads, but not right now. --Davidt8 (talk) 23:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
The uploads do go through, only the gallery update fails. Check your contributions.--Dodo bird (talk) 23:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
True enough, but having the gallery updates makes finding images I have contributed much easier.--Davidt8 (talk) 03:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
It seems to be fixed. --Flominator (talk) 10:45, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Silly question. What is the gallery- where do I find it. I know that I am not updating it, but I have never used it. --ClemRutter (talk) 22:55, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
It is the page User:YourUserName/gallery. Commonist inserts one row per upload there. Mine is at User:Flominator/gallery. Regards, --Flominator (talk) 06:42, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Mmmm: User:ClemRutter/gallery should look similar? I think there is a little problem here too. Thanks for trying.--ClemRutter (talk) 11:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)


[edit] What is the problem??

Commonist-problem-QU.JPG

What is the problem?? I cannot upload by commonist. I have re-installed Java but nothing. Quahadi Añtó 10:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

What happens, specifically? Is that screen capture the result of clicking on an icon on your desktop? --Davidt8 (talk) 02:54, 11 December 2009 (UTC)


The commonist main screen does not appear.

I have downloaded commonist from the official website . I have unpacked it. Then I have go to unpacked folder:

bin-->Commonist (MS DOS batch file)

I click that file . The black screen shows but not the main screen. Why???--Quahadi Añtó 08:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

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