Commons talk:Wiki Loves Monuments 2015/Training

Discussion target group

Target group should be countries which not have Wikimedia chapters. There are several on the Balkan's (South Europe) with strong WP community, but without WM organizations. Also, countries with WM organizations, but who never take a part in this contests. -Violetova (talk) 12:04, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

My opinion: will be more effective if we train a 'virgin' teams, no matter if the training will attend lead organizers or persons with good communication skills, and if the country is going to organize something in the coming year, they will be more successful after this training.

Size of the group: no more than 30-40 at a time.

Let's start with Europe

Regards, -- Violetova (talk) 10:41, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

High impact activities

I understand that the training is designed to transfer experience from veteran volunteers to newcomers. However, we also have a number of high-impact activities that may be included in the training.

1. How to meet the deadlines/Consequences if deadline is not met This is one of the biggest problem for WLM.
2. More prizes and more professional management This would make our competition more attractive.
3. Pilot WLM in Japan and Australia This two countries had tried to participate but gave up in the middle of the process. We should try to bring them back or let international volunteers help organize it as a pilot activity. The two are strategically important because of their population and geographical area. If you can get Japan/Australia in, Korea/New Zealand and other countries in the region may follow them. Alternatively, put the rest of the world together as if it is one national and find an appropriate eligibility inclusion criteria e.g. photos is used on a Wikipedia article.

--taweethaも (talk) 04:51, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Would just add one more point to what Taweetham has mentioned: With my experience in India, I understood that Management is the core issues and to add more, when [only] volunteers are involved for end to end process, things does goes in a bad track. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 10:54, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Funding

Funding is also becomes a trouble for countries which has no chapter and also no experience in applying for bigger grants for projects like WLM. Sometimes, grants process also consumes more time and management of the same. I believe, for this, we can highlight all previous grants related to WLM which will not only bring light about funding, but also about more how other chapters or organisers proceeded with the entire process. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 10:52, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

in algeria and all arab country have a great problem of funding by sponsoring especially --Bachounda (talk) 19:52, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Proposed topics to discuss/questions to answer (Racso)

Hi there.

Here are some of things I think it would be useful to discuss. Please keep in mind that some of them may be mentioned as part of other discussions; I just think they are important topics that should be addressed in one way or another.

1. Prizes: are they really that important? What kind of prizes or incentives are better motivators? Can they kill intrinsic motivation (if yes, How to avoid it)?
2. Burnout effect in organizers: Which WLM organizers (national, international, supporters, big teams, small teams, etc.) have the most risk of burning out? How to better avoid this undesired effect?
3. Ads: What are the most effective ways to advertise the contest? Given that we already have the CentralNotice banners, which are an extremely powerful tool as a huge amount of people sees them everyday in Wikipedia, Is it actually useful to use additional (possibly paid) advertising methods?

Should I put the questions in the Goals section of the page, or shall they be discussed first?

Cheers. --Racso (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Suggestions of topics (NickK)

From my experience of organising WLM 2012 to 2014 in Ukraine and working on WLE 2014 international team, I think the following topics may be interesting:

• Minimum of skills and resources one needs for organising a WL* contest. Many people ask whether they need to find sponsor themselves? to have a full-time project manager? to have a jury of professional photographers? to have an advertising campaign?... etc. It would be good to come up with simple and clear guidelines of what one needs to launch a WL* contest in his/her country.
• Special nominations. Apart of the award for the Best Photo, what else can generate impact? Suggestions: most monuments pictured (provoked a harsh race in Ukraine where some participants travelled around the country all year round), most monuments without images available (invites people to cover monuments outside a given area), most QIs or something like that (to invite people to upload images of decent quality) etc.
• Jury. What is an ideal jury composition (and where to find jurors)? What is the most efficient way to evaluate some 500... 5,000... 50,000 photos in one month (both jury tools and different stages of evaluation process)?
• Involving more participants — what are the best ways to increase reach (e.g. organising local events, promotion in social networks, advertising in local newspapers etc.) Especially interesting for cases when some regions are much better covered then others — NickK (talk) 01:44, 13 December 2014 (UTC)