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[edit] Correct colours?

Is these are correct colours? fr:Drapeau_de_la_France and en:Flag of France give different values for red and blue. based on them Image:France flag large.png has correct colours --TarmoK 08:44, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

The current colors have a source cited (Flags of the World). The colors given in the text of fr:Drapeau de la France were originally added on July 11, 2004 (diff) without any source citation. (The equivalent text at EN was merely translated from FR, on October 9, 2004.)
Of course, if anyone can provide any justification for the claim that the red is Pantone 032, and the blue is Pantone Reflex Blue (instead of Pantone 186 and Pantone 282, according to FOTW), it is very easy to change. User:dbenbenn 15:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, I had a glance at flagsoftheworld.com, and obviously, there is an error, somewhere : I used a well known open-source software to edit the flag with RGB(0, 85, 164), and with no doubt, it looks like better the french flag. I freely don't care about PENTONE, and can tell you that flagoftheworld don't use the blue color in use in the actual french flag of wikipedia.--62.34.70.201 19:40, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I found a source for the other colors: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/phildenis40/Niveau2/Voyages/Pays/France/Drapeau.html. I am not sure where in French law I should look up, but this gives us a head start. Zach (Smack Back) 11:09, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

The following link (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/phildenis40/Niveau2/Voyages/Pays/France/Drapeau.html) is broken. My web's site has moved out. Now, the correct one is http://phildenis40.free.fr//Niveau2/Voyages/Pays/France/Drapeau.html. Best Regards. Ph.DENIS

Something a bit more official I found while trying to sort out the Italian flag mess: http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/de/frankreich_3/frankreich-entdecken_244/portrat-frankreichs_247/die-symbole-der-franzosischen-republik_260/trikolore-die-nationalfahne_114.html. It says that the RGB colors are RGB(0,85,164) for Blue and RGB(239,65,53) for red. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 22:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Bump. It seems to me the current version doesn't match the colour specifications noted on the image page, or any others discussed. Why is this? Paul_012 (talk) 14:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Reverts and things like that. I can fix it, if needed. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 21:42, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
That would be great, but given the extent of info on this page, how do we know which are the correct colours? Paul_012 (talk) 13:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I will use the French Embassy in Germany website as my source. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 03:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
The RGB colors came out odd, so I used the CMYK guide listed on the same website. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 05:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I had to revert this : it was clearly too light, at least for the blue. I don't think CMYK is a good idea for a Web picture... le Korrigan →bla 12:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
+1 Anyway, @Zscout370 check your source, they specify, PANTONE Reflex Blue und PANTONE Red 032 --Pixeltoo 12:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
That was the same site I used in the upload, just didn't use Pantone yet. I'll use Pantone now. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 05:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Pantone version up now. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 05:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I remember seeing a thing like this over with the British flags---shouldn't Photoshop be set to sRGB with the whole color spaces thing before sampling the colors (IIRC PS requires the whole monitor profile thing)? And anyway, the solution the other people found was to use CorelDraw's colors instead, which (if you disassociate "Adobe = Good, Corel = Cheap" -- not saying that this is what the people were thinking, but too many times people go to Adobe first) actually has quite good interpretations of Pantone for use on the Web, as most web users have their settings set to the OS default, which in most cases is sRGB anyway.
BTW Corel gives Reflex Blue #171796 and Red 032 #ED2E38, which I've put below:
Current Version as of 02:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC):
 

#00209F
 

white
 

#F42A41
Corel's colors:
 

#171796
 

white
 

#ED2E38
The bottom colours look less washed out to the standard sRGB configured screen ... 202.89.152.154 02:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
In fact, the solution for Commons could be to set a particular Pantone reference (e.g. Corel) as the "reference of first instance"...202.89.152.154 02:09, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I do not see a major difference in the red at all and no difference between the blues. Plus, I think it would be a bad idea to just only use one reference for Pantone, since not everyone has corel or wishes to spend money on a program they might only use a few times. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 22:54, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] The correct colours are:

According to French Embassy in Germany, the blue stripe is Pantone Reflex Blue and the red stripe is Pantone 032, which equals to RGB (0,85,164), (255,255,255) and (239,65,53) respectively, or #0055A4, #FFFFFF, #EF4135.
You can find the exact same specifications here: http://bonjourlafrance.net/french_flag/france_flag.htm
So, if anyone could change the current flag to the right colours, thanks.
Xagasi 19:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I used the colors before from the German Embassy, but people called it "too washed out." User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 19:40, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Correction, I am using the Pantone colors that are listed from the Embassy. I used Photoshop 7.0 to get the Pantone colors. So no changes is needed at all. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 19:45, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

The current colours of your version, if I am not wrong, are      #00209F      and      #F42A41     . But considering the 2 links I wrote before it is indisputable that they must be      #0055A4      and      #EF4135     , both links say the RGB codes are (0,85,164) and (239,65,53), which are equivalent to the HTML codes I have just written. Best regards.
Xagasi 23:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Because I used the same codes you gave me before and French Wikipedians rejected it. So I went with Pantone, since that is also described in the pages you wrote. I am going to stick with Pantone, since that is making the French Wikipedians content. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 00:34, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Now I see you got the colour codes using Adobe PS, but now I don't understand why you took Pantone coated colours and for example in the Irish flag other people took the uncoated. They give very different results. Xagasi 11:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Unless the Irish flag law says others, I usually stick with coated when it comes to Pantone. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 14:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree, uncoated Pantone colours are too light for the French flag, but so they are for the Irish, I have left my question there. Xagasi 15:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I know that the Irish Government gave out Pantone numbers, but I do not know if it is coated or not. I need to check personally later. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 02:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] That embassy site info

It is without doubt that no embassy, no goverment, no president can change the colours of the Flag of France. It is only the People and its representatives in Parliament who can do such a thing.

When Mr. President Sarkozy was in Britain last time, the much darker colour has been used.

Even if we wanted to defend the embassy colours we should admit that they are published under a title "Farbtöne - Informationen für den Druck der Tricolore" in German which on the first look seems suspicious. The title translates to "Shade of Colour - Information for the Print of the Tricolore". So those specifications are meant for printing only because it doesn't say otherwise.

IMHO concerning this particular flag - FotW uses much better colours representation than Commons at this point.

Rainman 23:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Size of each stripes

I've read in fr:La_Grande_Encyclopédie_du_dérisoire that each stripes haev a diffenent size. Blue should be about 30%, white 33% and red 37%. This should correct an optical effect which makes the blue stripe wider and the red one thicker. I've no other source to confirm it.

Mioux

Found it : it's only for navy, sorry

[edit] Colors

Are you crazy ? French flag is become italian flag or what ? --79.49.61.148 23:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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