File talk:Karl W Richter.jpg

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OK, how do I move an old discussion https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Help_desk&action=edit&oldid=129808388 for this file from the help desk over to here?

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== >>>> HELP! File:Karl_W_Richter.jpg How to CATEGORIZE (United States Air Force Pilot)??? ==

Would someone please help me put File:Karl_W_Richter.jpg into a category, please? I don't understand how they work or how to find the one for him. Thanks!! Azx2 06:26, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,
I added Category:United States Air Force airmen‎. Regards, Yann (talk) 09:14, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You can also go to the article in en.Wikipedia Karl W. Richter, find the categories there and place the file in the related categories in the commons.
If you want, and have more than one photo, you can create the Category:Karl W. Richter, place the photos there an categorize the new category the same way as described above. Regards --JotaCartas (talk) 09:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The information on this file seems to be completely wrong. Why do you think that the English Wikipedia uploader is the author? There is nothing on the English Wikipedia file description to suggest that's the case. (Yes, I do realize that some tools for transferring files from other projects stupidly add this by default, but as the Commons uploader, you are responsible for making sure that the file description here is correct. You can and you should correct such misinformation when transferring files here.) And I find it very hard to believe that this file is subject to the GNU Free Documentation License. {{PD-USGov-Military-Air Force}} seems a lot more likely, but we'd need a verifiable source for that. (Again, I realize that this claim comes from the file description on English Wikipedia, but again, since you're responsible for the file description here, you should evaluate such claims critically.) —LX (talk, contribs) 21:27, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, LX. Thank you for responding to my request for help. You sound like you are very experienced and I feel like an incompetent schmuck for not having done things properly. Is there the chance that you would you be willing to mentor me in taking the remedial actions that you suggest? I am devastated to learn that I transferred this file incorrectly - even though it was my first time to do so, I would never have wanted to introduce errors or inaccuracies into the new file and am just so upset with myself for even attempting to do it. I should've known that I wouldn't be able to do this properly and wish I hadn't, but now I feel like I don't have any choice but to see it through. Oh geeze :( I >really< would appreciate any help/guidance you could provide, especially because I can't imagine how upset people will be at me if the file has to be deleted and the article stripped of its image. I'm so upset already as it is. If you can't or won't help me resolve the issues you cited, should that be interpreted as disapproval? Am I gonna get in trouble? Oh please help me fix this - I want to do what's right but I lack confidence and some experience...ok, thank you again for taking the time to advise me that I dropped the ball. Azx2 07:05, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Relax, Azx2, you won't get into trouble. The problem with this file is that the original file description page at Wikipedia is insufficient. There's no way you could've gotten this right without some experience. So let's do some detective work together:
  • The original source of the image was here, but the link is dead. The internet archive has a copy of the page as it was in 2007, but the images are missing there.
  • Even without the images we can easily see from that, that the licenses at Wikipedia are clearly wrong. Neither the GNU Free Documentation License nor the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 license assigned to the image at en:File:Karl W Richter.jpg are mentioned at the original source.
  • Since the original source is a US-military website, one could now guess that the image was taken by a US-soldier on duty, and replace the license tags with {{PD-USGov-Military}} or probably even {{PD-USGov-Military-Air Force}}.
  • Without further information about the image, it's impossible to be 100% sure that this is correct. I used the Google image search gadget (can be enabled somewhere in your account preferences) to search for other versions of this image on the web that could tell us something about the photographer but I didn't get any useful results.
  • My approach would now be to correct the information as good as possible (link the original source and the archived version, change the author to {{Unknown}}, change the license to {{PD-USGov-Military-Air Force}}) and then seek further input from others. My preferred option would be to play with open cards and simply nominate it for deletion, mentioning that I'm not 100% sure about the copyright status and ask people whether they think it's reasonable to assume that it's in the public domain based on the information we have got. If they agree it will be kept, otherwise it will be deleted.
Cheers, --El Grafo (talk) 08:44, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Just Copy it all in wikitext? Azx2 08:54, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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