Talk:حجر أسود

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User-degraded image[edit]

Can someone explain to me what value this user-degraded image adds to this gallery? It's a duplicate of this one, with portions of the image painted over by the uploader.Proabivouac 02:39, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Inaccuracy in caption[edit]

Elonka, you describe this image "with the face blanked out per Islamic custom"[1] To the best of my knowledge, there is no Islamic custom of altering depictions of Muhammad in this manner. The custom is rather 1) to depict him with his face veiled to begin with - in such cases the face is whitespaced, not painted over or 2) not to depict him at all or 3) to depict him naturalistically, but for private not public display. Unlike the fig leaves of European prudery, there is no custom at all of defacing existing images.Proabivouac 20:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I see you're placing this same question in multiple places. How about we centralize replies at Talk:Muhammad? --Elonka 20:13, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
I see you're placing this same image in multiple places. We can certainly centralize the discussion, though, as the same considerations apply in all three instances, since if we crop this particular image to show only the Kaaba or the Black Stone, nothing useful will be left. For the other galleries, a more productive enterprise would be to identify those images which might be usefully cropped in this manner to give editors the option of using only the portion in question; for example this one might be altered to highlight the Kaaba. Cropping and zooming is a legitimate display decision just as defacement is not.Proabivouac 20:25, 20 August 2007 (UTC)