Template talk:Copyvio/en

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Don't encourage problem tag blanking[edit]

I removed the statement encouraging users to remove problem tags. This statement was introduced by Pieter Kuiper (talk · contribs · page moves · block user · block log · upload log) after a Village Pump discussion regarding no source, no license and no permission templates. The appeal process for files tagged as blatant copyright violations was not discussed. This note demonstrably misled uploaders into thinking that it's okay to remove {{copyvio}} tags from the copyright violations that they have uploaded. See, for example, this discussion. LX (talk, contribs) 12:39, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

After a similar episode, I strong support this decision.--Trixt (talk) 10:50, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
If you want to change the well established practice (that was in effect since 2006 -- [1]) -- discuss it in some visible place, e.g. Template talk:Copyvio, this place is way too obscure. Trycatch (talk) 11:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh my, I'm sorry and I'm very confuse. You may help, please. As far as I know, {{Copyvio}} is a "precompiled" {{Speedy delete}} tag. So, if I use {{Copyvio}} or {{Speedy delete|copyright violation}} is the same thing, isn't it? But why I can remove {{Copyvio}} in any moment but I can't remove a {{Speedy delete}} tag? I don't know... In any case, in this moment there are wrong translations: some stated that you can remove the tag, some stated that you cannot remove the tag, and same stated that you must start a DR... We need only one version.--Trixt (talk) 11:45, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
{{speedy}} is primarily used for correcting one's own mistakes. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 11:56, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
@Trixt I agree with you, it would be great to harmonize these templates. However, I don't want to lose possibility to remove a frivolous or obviously wrong tag without needless bureaucracy -- there are a lot of random taggers around. (Of course, translated versions are the mess.) Trycatch (talk) 14:10, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I think experienced users understand that vandalism and obviously incorrect edits can always be undone with an explanation (or warning in the case of deliberate disruption). For example, I think Bahnfrend's actions on File:Metronibusa.jpg, where I got the rationale wrong, are fine (see the File talk:Metronibusa.jpg talk page). In 99% of cases, though, {{copyvio}} shouldn't be removed – certainly not by inexperienced editors who think that everything is fine if they add a fair use rationale, and I think that's what the instructions should be geared towards. We document the rules, not the rare exceptions that confirm them. When we come across clear-cut exceptions, we ignore the rules. When we're not sure, we discuss. LX (talk, contribs) 16:24, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
When an uploader removes your tag, you just take it to DR. Why should that be a problem? It gives you the chance to demonstrate that you are right. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:31, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I watchlist all the files I tag, mainly after realising that you were following in my footsteps, quietly removing justified tags. Not everyone uses their watchlist that actively. That's one problem. Another problem is this. LX (talk, contribs) 16:43, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
@Pieter Kuiper: the problem occurs when user A sees a copyvio (e.g. for no FOP on that country) uploaded by a user B. User B removes the tag (we assume good faith, he doesn't know FOP rules). User A is not an admin or a very passionate user and obviously doesn't watchlist every file he tags. The result is that we have another copyvio on Commons... Perhaps we can do this: "please don't remove the copyvio tag if you are the uploader"; this may help.--Trixt (talk) 21:03, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Almost all tagging is done by passionate users, as it requires more knowledge of templates than to use the scripted deletion button. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:12, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Nice answer, but this don't solve the problem (or perhaps my English is not so good... Perhaps you want to say that is better a copyvio than one less image?).--Trixt (talk) 09:29, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request (add "2=1=" to copyvionote instructions)[edit]

{{edit protected}} Please change the line:

<small style="color:purple">{{tlf|subst:[[Template:copyvionote|copyvionote]]|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}} ~~~~</small>

to:

<small style="color:purple">{{tlf|subst:[[Template:copyvionote|copyvionote]]|2=1={{FULLPAGENAME}}}} ~~~~</small>

This will prevent the {{copyvionote}} from breaking when a "=" is present in the filename. An analogous change should probably be made to all languages if this edit request is fulfilled. Thanks, Storkk (talk) 13:13, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

@Storkk: ✓ Done --Steinsplitter (talk) 09:13, 17 November 2014 (UTC)