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Contents 1 Let's be nice 2 Heading 3 Since when do we delete old versions of images? 4 Broken bulk request 5 Translators' help 6 multiple files -- header comes out odd 7 Moving

[edit] Let's be nice

It's important to be nice. This template currently uses words like "warning" (what about "notification"?) and has an angry red border (what about a calmer grey or green?). It tells the person that their file will be deleted, without reassuring them that their contribution is greatly valued.

I have seen several cases of people going absolutely ape-shit after receiving one of these warnings. Let's make it more diplomatic. — Erin (talk) (FAQ) 02:06, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

LOL. Fred Chess 07:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what the word "warning" sounds like for a native speaker of English. For those whose English isn't so good, warning is a more known and common and more understood word. I'd like to change notification back to warning if that is ok. -Samulili 15:06, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

My personal opinion is that the older one got the job done in a more professional way. / Fred Chess 12:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think that bluntness sounds more professional, and I like to be blunt, but I like to be nice too, and I notice a lot of people getting offended when their pix go up for deletion. Diplomatic wording is unfortunately necessary. Also remember that this template is not used in the main namespace, but only on user talk pages, which are generally unprofessional places not on public display in quite the same way as articles, categories, image description pages, etc. — Erin (talk) (FAQ) 13:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed that this has been changed. It's very sweet, I like it. :) Will be funny to see on a serial copyvio offender's talk page, though. pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Now, almost a year later, I admit that the wording is nice and has not lead to any problems as far as I know. Thank you, Erin. / Fred J 22:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heading

Shouldnt this template include a heading like eg. ==[[:Image:Imagname.extension]]==?/Lokal_Profil 20:03, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

You mean it should link to the image in question? It does. — Erin (talk) (FAQ) 23:23, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

No, what I meant is that it should create a new section with eg. the above as a heading. As it is now many people just use the template which then gets sorted in the TOC as being part of the prior section./Lokal_Profil 23:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh yes, I apologise for my misunderstanding. — Erin (talk) (FAQ) 01:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Looks good =). Should also point out that this is probably the best worded warning template I've seen (not only for images) on the wikipedia projects I've visited. If there were such a category as featured template I'd nominate it =) /Lokal_Profil 01:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

It does not any more link to the image in question, thanks to this edit. I can understand boldifying the references to the image in question, but why remove the links? I frequently use those links, for example from a user talk page I'm watching to an image that user had involvement with, and removal of those links has put a speedbump in my path, so I respectfully request that they be put back. If not both, at least one? Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 21:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

This is also adversely affecting DRBot's ability to recognize {{idw}} postings, causing it to make unwanted duplicate postings[1][2].   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:48, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

What exactly breaks the bot? My edits were intended to be minor trivial cleanup. I did not want any bot to break. :/ -- Cat ^chi? 06:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know exactly, you'd have to ask Bryan. My guess is that the change from link to bold in the heading broke it (given that what the bot creates still has the link). That would be my first choice of what to partially revert to try to stop the broken behavior.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 10:51, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

It was in fact the edit before that. I have reverted this temporarily, until I am able to fix the nominate-for-deletion script. -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to this edit by Fred J., it again does link to the image in question.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 04:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Since when do we delete old versions of images?

I am bemused by the phrase "If the file is up for deletion because it has been superseded by a superior derivative of your work, consider the notion that although the file may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new file". I am under the impression that we don't delete older revisions of images, we like to keep all the revisions as a history, so is "superseded by a superior derivative" is an unlikely scenario --Tony Wills 09:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broken bulk request

The intention was probably good but it broke the deletion template on the image page. Eg if you go to Image:Torpedo-werke-ffm-roedelheim.jpg and see point 4 in template it says Notify the item's uploader or the creator of the page by placing the following code on their talk page: {{subst:idw|Image:Torpedo-werke-ffm-roedelheim.jpg|Category:Motorcycle company logos}} --~~~~ but with the change, that didn't work. I have therefor reverted the change. / Fred J 17:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translators' help

This notification should explain that discussions are held in English, and it should give some help for finding translators, for example at the local Village pump. Should this be included at the template, or as a note for the translated versions in other languagues? --V.Riullop 13:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

There is no "English-only" policy. ViperSnake151 (talk) 15:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] multiple files -- header comes out odd

When notifying a user of a mass deletion request, the first parameter, instead of being a filename, is a description of the files being nominated. Since that text is used as a section header, however, it comes out looking not right.

Please see User talk:DineshAdv#[[:Your Cars images]] for an example.

-- Powers (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Moving

I would propose to move this template to Template:Dw. It just doesn't make sense to give someone an "image deletion warning" for galleries, categories or templates. The deletion requests aren't image only, and thus this should be named "deletion warning" to cover the other namespaces as well. Thoughts? --The Evil IP address (talk) 12:18, 12 September 2009 (UTC)