Template talk:PD-RU-exempt

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[edit] COA

Hi ! Can some admin replace the image Image:Russia coa.png by Image:Russia coa.svg in this template. Regards, EDUCA33E 13:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

No, there is still debate about the SVG image. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 20:19, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

i think the discussion came to the conlcusion that the .svg file is PD therefore the template could now be changed... Senegrom 20:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

As far as I understand point 22 of the decision no.15/2006 by the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation, dated June 19, 2006 (in Russian), the non-copyrightability of state symbols extends also to official symbols of local or municipal authorities. Lupo 11:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal for 2007 (Law) and 2008 (New Code)

I have just prepared new version of tag with two important comments and one impotant warning. See Template:PD-RU-exempt/proposal.

I have just also prepared the version of tag, which is agreed with new Civil Code of Rus.Fed. (It will take effect at Jan 1, 2008). See Template:PD-RU-exempt/2008 Alex Spade 17:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I suggest to include Russian text of the law in this template with addition of point 5:

5. Авторские права не распространяются на идеи, концепции, принципы, методы, процессы, системы, способы, решения технических, организационных или иных задач, открытия, факты, языки программирования.

I think, point 5 is also very important for us. MaxiMaxiMax 00:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Symbol OK.svg OK Done Alex Spade 17:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] News reports on events and facts

Quoted from the new template, does that mean that news reports are free from copyright? So how does that work? Any screenshot of a news Russian report is free of copyright? --Kuban kazak 22:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

No. According to current law-enforcement practice this paragraph is applied only to textual information. The audio/video news reports are still copyrighted. In case of audio/video news report you can freely use only textual decoding decoded facts of audio-tarck of report. Alex Spade 06:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I think it's about fact-like text. Facts is not protected by copyrights. Something like "Moscow time is ...", "Weather in X is Y, portly cloudy, wind is Z", etc. Please note similar television programs, transport schedules and the like. Entire news report will be covered by copyrights. Same as article in newspaper. --EugeneZelenko 14:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree. In my answer I had just made amplification of non-freedom of image/audio/video news reports. Articles and full decoding are copyrighted. Alex Spade 16:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Items of expeception

Would this include military insignia and the state anthem? User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 04:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

  1. Yes, according to Commentary for old Law and new Code. All state and municipal signs (including, military insignia, road signs, etc.) via paragraph Official documents and notice and the like. The text or graphic description of these signs are released as enclosures to respective official docs or as special official docs. Those of them, that have heraldic elements, are to be gradually to include in the Heraldic Register of the Rus.Fed.
  2. Anthems, according to Rus.Law, are integral parts of the triumvirates of state or municipal symbolism.
Alex Spade 05:34, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category

With foregoing changes, I think, that Official symbols of Russia isn't suitable for images with PD-RU-exempt tag. What name of category is more suitable? Alex Spade 17:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I think we are to create Category:PD-RU-exempt which should be included into Category:Public domain and Category:Russia-specific copyright templates. VanHelsing.16 17:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Done. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 04:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC) (on vacation)

[edit] Russian version

I'm sure it's not very difficult to create a Russian version of this template VanHelsing.16 16:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok. I will have done. Alex Spade 17:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Once it is finished, how will we be able to add the Russian text to it? User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 03:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
No problem. I have made the new version of Template:PD-RU-exempt/proposal, where Template:PD-RU-exempt/lang is added. Alex Spade 05:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Ok, added. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 08:13, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Symbol OK.svg OK Done. I will have also done the ru-version of Template:PD-RU-exempt/2008 soon. Alex Spade 07:30, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misprint

{{editprotected}} Plz, change in second reference:

[[w:Republics of the Soviet Union|Soviet Republic]] --> [[w:Republics of the Soviet Union|Soviet Republics]]

Alex Spade 17:20, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Done. -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stamps

Are postage stamps in fact "state symbols and signs"? The English text does not mention them, and personally I wouldn't just automatically assume that, but we have a whole lot of stamp images tagged with this - Category:Stamps of the Soviet Union. --Davepape 14:38, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Russian ans Soviet stamps is uncopyrighted, until their images are keeping the indications of stamps. Alex Spade 16:02, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2008

{{Editprotected}} Plz, replace the current code by code of Template:PD-RU-exempt/2008. Alex Spade 16:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

There is only an request to rethink before automatic apply the request of Collegue above - see Template talk:PD-Russia. Best regards Andros64

Dear Andros64. Don't mix Template:PD-Russia and Template:PD-RU-exempt. Plz, try to read the templates first and try to analize the changes. 2008-law doesn't change much in exempt section of law. Moreover, the 2008-law is more freely and more accurate in exemp section. Moreover, these changes for this template was dissused earlier. Alex Spade 18:28, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I think I got it. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 06:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Small fix

{{Editprotected}} Plz, replace

{{PD-RU-exempt/2008/lang}}

by

{{PD-RU-exempt/lang}}

Alex Spade 08:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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