Template talk:Translate

This is the discussion page of the template {{Translation possible}}. Since it is an undiscussed one man project, I'd like to read comments about it. --Enricopedia 15:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Nice idea, but I'm still waiting for on-wiki editing of SVG images (bug 5899)... There are some problems with UTF-8 capable text editors running under Windows, so it would be great (also) for this project, to have it available right through MediaWiki. BTW not all texts are stored as plain text (some are converted to paths). --Nux (talk··dyskusja) 00:35, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi and thank you for the translation into Polish! I wanted to have the Learn_more page translated too but no one has ever done that for any other language.  ;) Yes, it would be nice to edit SVGs online! Let's see when they implement that. I tried editing SVG text with a simple text editor but it only works when you put UTF-8 characters. Anything else will break the SVG rendering. Thats why I didn't even mention it on the help page. Btw, let me put it under a new headline...  :) --Enricopedia 00:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

"Inside labels"?

Make the English explicit before you get translations. :( It is not clear what an "inside label" is. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 07:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

An inside label is a label that is included into the image. I took the term from the Convert to international template, where it's been used exactly the same way. You might tell me though, what would be better to use, since you are native speaker. --Enricopedia 10:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I put embedded labels now. I guess that's better and translated it is the same of what I've used in the German version. --Enricopedia 10:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

There is no succinct term for what you mean, that I know of. I would put something like "embedded labels (text as part of the image itself)". Or just "embedded text"?? pfctdayelise (说什么?) 12:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, it's embedded text now. Simple.  :) --Enricopedia 17:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Numeric labels

I've made the suggestion of numeric labels less emphatic: there is good reason to use labels in a given language, but numeric versions are valuable for being easily reusable.

Nbarth 00:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Typo

"Gaphic data mistake will be unpossible to prevent" should be "Graphic data mistake will be unpossible to prevent". BernardM (talk) 09:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Change the font of a specific language

Is it possible to change the font of a specific language (I mean languages like Persian having an arabic writing) to make texts more readable? --P30Carl (talk) 21:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Template:Translate

Since this template redirect here, I wonder if we have a template to indicate that an image should be translated (into English)? I've run into many images in less known languages that I'd like to tag as needed a translation, but I can't find the right template for that.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 18:15, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, hopefully, this template is enough. The idea is that it doesn't matter what language people translate into, that every new translation makes other translations more likely (lesser known languages → well-known languages → all languages). Having a "translate to English" template would be redundant. I can see other "translate to language" templates popping up and then we would have tagging mess. If you think it would be beneficial to single out images lacking an English translation (which greatly widens the circle of potential new translations), maybe create a project page gallery? Rocket000 (talk) 16:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Whenever one does something, there is the risk for a mess, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be any. This template is well intended, but too vague by itself, and limits only to SVG files, where some files may not be, and may not have the possibility of being converted in such a format, and still need translation.

Secondly, this template only says one could, if he really wants to, to translate an image, and in no means lets someone ask the valid question of translating something. There are subtemplates translated and encouraged for templates, why not for the text in pertinent images?

Thirdly, the main language of this project is English, and this is mainly asked of all users - to know at least English. Now, while those people really bothered in making their files in their own language and it's respectable, most of the users on Commons won't understand what it means (with few exceptions, where the words may be similar, but again, that's still going almost blind).

So considering all this, there should be a tag for translation requests at least from another language into English, if some would think from English to other languages would be too "messy". --Anime Addict AA (talk) 19:51, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Right way?

I'm glad that here is activity about translating descriptions, but I'm not sure if it is right way. What about changing image in the future - change needs to be done in every image separatly (if I understand system of translating correctly). Or there is some tool for this? If not so, I happier if there would be some special codes in image which would be dynamicly replaced by translation from separate place (file), so there would be possible to generate both versions (with embedded texts and also version with numbers) from one source. ■ Jan Šebetovský 19:01, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Can this be used on non-SVG fies?

For examples, gifs tagged with {{SVG}}? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 23:05, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, no it cannot. This tag is designed for SVG files that can be easily translated, not GIFs that are waiting to be converted to SVG. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 21:01, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Proper procedure for uploading?

What is the proper procedure for uploading? E.g. for keeping track of versions, descriptions, copyright information, ... --Chire (talk) 08:52, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Inactivity of Nikola: SVG translate needs of a new programmer please !

(Please, keep the talk here.)

Hello wikipedians and uploaders,

While SVG translate is a very convenient and High potential tool, I noticed that user:Nikola_Smolenski have largely withdraw his implication from coding SVG translate, this inactivity recently automatically closed SVG translate. The development is also stale, since, de facto, nobody is leading it. As a wikigraphist, I look SVG translate as a fundamental tool which need strong support, and further development. Also, I strongly encourage an active programmer to : 1. copy the SVG translate code to his own toolserver account ; 2. change {{Translation possible}}'s link accordingly ; 3. to continue development according to meaningful requests. 4. It's integration within Luxo's http://toolserver.org/~luxo/derivativeFX (auto upload) would be higly beneficial. Yug (talk) 08:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Please, if you want to copy and manage SVG translate, just do it, and notice everyone here ;)

Jarry1250 who coded SVG Check might be a candidate. --Leyo 14:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I can certainly take a look at rehosting the existing code corpus, but I don't know about developing it further. That might demand too much of my time, I don't know really. Jarry1250 (talk) 20:08, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Rehosting is already a good step to secure this code. After, we need to continue to look for an active programmer. Yug (talk) 13:32, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

The implementation of this script is probably not too difficult. --Leyo 14:03, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Records and Merging with DerivativeFX

(Copied from Nikola's inactive talk page)

Hello Nikola, Already 2 years since our last talk. Im just wondering, since then :

• Do you save the translations ?
• Do you have the count of usage of your tool ?
• Did you considered a collaboration with Luxo to provide automatic upload ?
• others interesting issues : lets me know :D

Regards, Yug (talk) 09:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Toolserver user nikola

(Copied from Nikola's inactive talk page)

Toolserver expired your account automatically because you have been inactive for over six months there. Big fan here of your tools. If you log in there every 5 months or so and make post, your hard tookserver work can remain live for the benefit of your followers. Thanks! -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:14, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

From this, it looks like you last modified sredjivanje.csv on 14 Nov 2010, which seems to be within the last 6 months. Perhaps toolserver's automatic expiring tool is out of wack. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

SVGTranslate is working… --Leyo 16:58, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Displaying a thumbnail in SVGTranslate

(Copied from Nikola's inactive talk page)

Hi Nikola. What about displaying a thumbnail in SVGTranslate? This would facilitate to translate from a language a users does not understand and act like a confirmation that the right image was selected. In this tool, a thumbnail is shown. --Leyo 17:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Please include this script to get this feature. --Leyo 23:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

DerivateFX should integrate SVG translate

Hello,

I already praised DerivateFX and SVG translate as two wonderful tools for graphists here. However, both have lowly active (DFX, Luxo) or totally inactive (SVG translate, Nikola) programmers, respectively Luxo, and Nikola. Since a translation is de facto a derivation, SVG translate should be integrated to DFX to allow automatic and instant upload with proper license of those derivate files. Accordingly, and since the codes are free, out of Luxo, do you know some potential programmers to do this work ? Yug (talk) 08:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I can not translate

I put the Template:translate possible, but I can't translate it please help. Could you please help to resolve this problem??? (Nisetpdajsankha (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2011 (UTC))

Which SVG file, the sentences/word are likely vectorized (they are not characters with a font anymore, but vectorial shapes), in such cases, the translation is impossible. Yug (talk) 14:20, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit requested

The news place for the scirpt is http://toolserver.org/~jarry/svgtranslate/index.php? , Admins, please update the template's page. Yug (talk) 14:20, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Done. Thanks to you and Jarry. --Leyo 14:31, 7 December 2011 (UTC)