User talk:82.155.78.128

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National flag of Portugal[edit]

Dear Reisio,

at Image:Flag_of_Portugal.svg it says:

Public domain : This image has been released into the public domain by its author, Reisio. This applies worldwide.
In some countries this may not be legally possible; if so: Reisio grants anyone the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law.

However at Image_talk:Flag_of_Portugal.svg#Authorship, it says:

This version was authored by Vítor Luís Rodrigues and António Martins-Tuválkin under contract of the President of the Portuguese Republic, Dr. Jorge Sampaio, in June 2004.

So, which is it? Who did actually create this (BTW, splendid) image?

82.155.78.128 18:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Get comfy, my child, and I will tell you a tale of ingenuity and duty, of irresponsibility and ignorance, OH WHAT A TALE IT IS!:
Basically, Zscout370, being the occasionally useful person that he is, initiated this conversation on the WikiProject Flags talk page.
As you can probably figure out, then, I converted the image into SVG and uploaded it to my personal site (not to Commons), and Dbenbenn, being the occasionally useful person that he is, uploaded the data to Image:Flag of Portugal.svg with the summary "more accurate version, converted from http://presidenciarepublica.pt/pt/republica/simbolos/bandeiras/ by User:Reisio", which is accurate, and does not attribute its creation to me, just the conversion.
Two days later I fixed the source information. At this time the file was still properly labelled with the {{PD}} template.
Four months later, Afonso Silva somewhat inexplicably replaced {{PD}} with {{Insignia2}}, leaving the file technically without a "license tag" (the public domain is not really a license, but a state in which data can reside, and thus the term "license tag" is somewhat strange, but alas that's what we call them here).
Nearly a year later, ALE! marks the page as having {{no license}}... instead of checking the history to see if someone (like Afonso Silva) removed a license tag for no good reason, and reverting that change — which is what he should have done, particularly since he was then (and still is) a Commons administrator.
About an hour later, WebBoy tags the page with {{PD-user|Reisio}}, either from misinterpretting Dbenbenn's summary, or perhaps because he is a proponent of the idiotic deprecation of {{PD}}, which I have always opposed party for the very reason you are here — not having it breeds misinformation. What WebBoy should have done, of course, is what ALE! should have done: gone back in the history and reverted Afonso Silva's removal of {{PD}}.
Over the course of time, through vandalism and inept users' edits, WebBoy's revision seems to have remained intact, though the file has now has a ridiculous three license tags.
So, why are you here asking me what's going on?: Because of the ineptitude or idiocy of what now has amounted to no less than three administrators and two bureaucrats (also administrators), along with a handful of other folk.
Glad you asked, and I hope you now do something constructive with this information.
¦ Reisio 20:57, 23 March 2008 (UTC)