User talk:Abigor/Archives/2009/September

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File:Mistras003.jpg

You have deleted this file with In category Copyright violations; not edited for 5 days comment.I (as uploader) didn`t wan`t to remove Copyright violation template,because there was ongoing discusion about tags that user:Iconoclast put on many images and freedom of panorama in Greece in general and it`s potentional violation by images on Commons.I expected that when discusion has come to an end,either all images would be deleted,or they`ll stay,so I think this image should be restored until discusion came to a conclusion. CrniBombarder!!! (talk) 19:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
I didn't know that there was a discussion somewhere.
I would say that the deletion was okay by COM:FOP so I would say that I will not undelete the file, the file can be undeleted after that the discussion is closed otherwhise I would delete it, undelete and maybe delete it again and it would make a big log.
I would suggest for the future that you remove all the copyvio templates and make one big mass deletion request and keep the discussion there, so the admins kan easy check the discussion and base actions on that.
Best regards,
Huib talk 20:11, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Deletion without notification of the uploader

Hello,

I'd like to ask you for a favour: please try not to delete media where the uploader was not notified.

The one in question is File:Hidvegi mate 132.jpg, the anon tagger neglected to notify the uploader, and the image was deleted without anyone's notice. This is bad. It is even more problematic since the author of the picture was the uploader, who seem to happen to be the son of the person in question, and the author information was in face proper (if not detailed enough, which could've been easily fixed if the uploader would be made aware of the problem).

There is a long-standing tension between commons regulars and editors of the other projects, and it would be welcome if we local admins would try to respect non-commons-professional editors and their efforts. Notification of the uploaders is of utmost impostance in this matter.

Thank you for your kind help. --grin 07:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear Grin,
I am currently on holiday so you needed to wait some days for your answer but I do agree with you on some point you say in this message.
Sadly there are images deleted without the notification for the uploader but it is hard to check all the files, I mean I work on the backlogs and the backlogs go 2 months back, It isn't possible for me to check all the talkpages because people already archived, or removed the message from there talkpage. When I can work again on this when there is no backlog (Like a year ago) it will be more easy to check if the uploader is notified.
I do not think the info on the images was enough, because it was impossible for us to check if the uploader was indeed the author and the image can be found on the internet, we could assume good faith, and yes I do that a lot but I don't think it is a good idea to assume good faith when it comes to copyrights, now its solved with OTRS so we can assume the uploader is the real author, on the internet everybody can say that they are everybody.
I don't think its about respect, I respect all users from other projects but like I told above I can respect all users, assume good faith and just let people upload things. We need good users from other projects and without the editors from other project Commons wouldn't come this far but Commons works with copyrights and that could end up in a legal case so I believe that we have to be sure that everything on Commons is free, and that has nothing todo with not respecting users from other projects.
Best regards,
Huib talk 18:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I would just add to this. It is really hard for Commons folk such as Abigor & I who deal with an awful lot of deletions to do all the deletions (checking that they really are deletable etc) and check that everyone knows.
I am not saying that you are not correct merely that there are just not enough hours in a day (or active admins on Commons maybe). Thanks--Herby talk thyme 18:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for the replies. As you see I phrased my request as politely as possible not even hint the suggestion that I want to blame anyone. I'm pretty well aware how daunting the revision tasks are, and what amount of backlog awaits. However I wanted to point out a problem which was generating a very heated debate on several foundation mailing lists, where there even were some exreme suggestions about chaning the admin structure to prevent this from happening; the basic problem is that projectX editor uploads the picture, he checks it again and see no problem, includes in projectX article, then others include it in projectY and projectZ, then the picture get deleted without notice (see below my question) and it gets broken link in projects X, Y and Z, but it is not easy to notice there, since it requires to actually view those articles to see missing image. So it gets unnoticed for a long time. Then someone complains, and editors look puzzled and start to investigate, and since deleted images cannot see without commons admin flag tey have to second-guess and try to look for deletion logs, and figure out what happened, who deleted it and why. (In the case above it took me about 10 minutes to do that.)

The result is a grudge on projects X Y and Z against commons admins. Very unfortunately most often the admin in question is a hard-working one and it's even not fair to blame him. But people won't go as far as looking for the person who used the deletion tag improperly and blame on him. So tension arises, which could well end up those admins desysopped, or just blamed, which is the same, because nobody want to work hard and get blamed for it.

One thing occured to me, so here's the question: there are lots of bots working here arond. Isn't it possible to ask one to notify the uploader? I won't go into technicalities like how not to notify twice, it could be solved. You may be more familiar with bots around, so please think about this. As I told: notifying the uploader is of utmost importance, and it should be get done either by the tagger or a bot, and a bot never sleeps. It's not the task of the admin doing the deletion.

As your comments about good faith and not proper description I agree; we cannot rely on good faith and the description was improper by our standards, but the uploader wasn't aware of that, and he filled things best as he could, and he could have corrected if told how to. This is usually the case. They need the possibility to fix their inexperience, I'm sure we all agree. Bots to the rescue? --grin 06:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I've ceased to be an admin here so I'm out of this discussion now. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 11:05, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Grin,
I like the idea of a bot like you say, and I know there is already a script that could do that and its running on the Dutch Wikipedia, I don't think it would be a great deal to get it running for the normal deletion requests.
The NPD NSD and NLD are a other problem because they are in a category and not listed any where (Since that bot uses a list to check if people got a message) but it is kind of easy to make a list of a category and let the bot run every day.
I will contact the bot owner and see if he can help, otherwhise I will use my bot and try that script.
I do really really like your idea.
Huib talk 18:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Great, thanks. Holiday's up or you just cannot stay away of the 'net? ;-) --grin 21:02, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
The holiday ended sooner that we planned because of personal reasons but I'm back home again now, I have to be open and say that I really and really missed Commons I think I'm a little bit addicted :D Huib talk 22:21, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/My sleepy penis series

Hi, you just closed this DR earlier (on the very same day it was opened), arguing that the files are out of scope and that makes it a speedy delete candidate. I'm sorry, but that's just not true; see COM:D#Speedy deletion. Besides, what's the rush anyway? What's the harm of leaving this open for one week? –Tryphon 17:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
I closed them early because all the penis images where not in use, and nothing special so I thought it would be okay to delete them speedy, I would have nuked them on sight instead of making a deletion request.
I think it would be a waste of time to let all penis images pass the communety to see if there is a consensus, there are many many many consensenus about this kind of images so I believe this deletion is okay.
Best regards,
Huib talk 18:39, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm not really concerned about these images; I'm pretty sure they would have been deleted eventually. But what I'm saying is, if someone bothered to open a regular DR, we should let it run for a full week (except for the few specific cases listed at COM:D#Speedy deletion). By trying to speed things up, we might end up with even more paperwork, if people feel they didn't get a chance to voice their opinion. –Tryphon 19:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I understand what you're saying and I don't mind to keep it open for 7 day's.
I believed that closing it before some people saw it would speed up because most of them end up in a new Commons is not censord discussion what will make a lot of drama again and again.
But next time it stay's open for a week, no problem by me.
Huib talk 19:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks. –Tryphon 19:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

hey you deleted my art work for John D. Bracco

you deleted it because it was fair use. well their is no copyright and it was made by me and 2 others. i been working on a page for my school it counts for 20 percent of my grad in infotech 7 (computer) for this semester. so please explain more about the deletion the image was not fair use it was a group effort by my class. if that helps keep my image

Hi,


I deleted your work because it was the logo or sign for your school, what is a problem because your school have all rights for the image so you cant release them into a free license, and making a redraw or a dw doesn't give you new rights so you cant release it.
As I understand the image needs to come on a article on the English Wikipedia? I would suggest using the local upload function By pressing here because the English Wikipedia has different rules regarding this kind of images, they do accept them and we don't sorry
Huib talk 23:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

About photo

Hello Abigor.

I'm so sorry for my uploaded image about Roxette, I thought it was not a copyright violation. And sorry for my english.--Vicavelrp (talk) 12:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,
You don't need to be sorry, we all have to learn and we all make mistakes :)
Do you understand why the image isn't free or should I explain it a little bit more?
Best regards,
Huib talk 13:03, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

\Hi Abigor, again.

Yes, please. Is it a violation to make a photo over others with copyright if it was a own creation? Thanx. --Vicavelrp (talk) 13:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
The problem was indeed that you cant take a picture with a other picture as subject because it doens't give you the rights for to release the original subject.
Huib talk 13:20, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

images by GabrielVelasquez (talk · contribs)

Hi Abigor, I strongly doubt that File:Planet Super-Venus Sulpher.JPG, File:Planet Super-Mars.jpg and all other images by User:GabrielVelasquez were copyvios. The uploader wants all his files deleted (for an as-of-yet unknown reason) and removed his own licenses and descriptions and then tagged them as copyvio out of pure own will. Therefore I was occupied converting his speedies into rfds. --Túrelio (talk) 22:23, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
I know that they were not copyvios but the tool gives that kind of messages, but there where a lot of files that he requested for deletion. I checked all files if they where in use and deleted the files that where not in use or only in use in a talkpage archive, I removed all Speedies on the files that where in use and told in the edit summary that he should use a dr.
I have deleted all the not in use files because we need the users for uploading there material under a free license and it is important to keep the good spirit running to collect free media.
But I do agree that all the in use files should go per Deletion request,
Best regards,
Huib talk 22:30, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
We sometimes delete files as a courtesy to the uploader, even though we don't have to, but I don't think we can speedy delete in this case. It has to be a community decision; after all, these images belong to the community, not to the uploader. And about the deletion summaries, if the tool you're using doesn't let you change it, please do it manually when you delete for a different reason than what the template indicates. It's very important to have accurate summaries in the deletion log. Thanks. –Tryphon 08:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I've opened a thread about this user here. --Túrelio (talk) 07:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, could you restore those files? Some of them are probably not own work and should go through a DR, but most of them are obviously okay and nominated in bad faith. Here's the list:

Thanks. –Tryphon 09:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I restored some of these files, these which were deleted as "copyright violation". Yann (talk) 11:21, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I think that the ones deleted as user request should be restored too, considering that GabrielVelasquez requested deletion of all the images he uploaded (for no other reason than he doesn't want them here anymore) and that speedy deletion was not appropriate in this case. I would do it myself, but I'd prefer to hear from Abigor first. –Tryphon 11:45, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Responded on the noticeboard. Huib talk 17:51, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

for fixing the redundant box on my user page[1]. All the best, Finn Rindahl (talk) 15:31, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

No problem, please take care and hopefully you will be back in the future.
Best regards,
Huib talk 17:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Your note on Image:Dermographism back.jpg

...in response to your note on the image. The cup holds the instrument used to create w:Dermographism. In retrospect, it is quite distracting. :) Should I let the note be? Will it appear on the articles as well? Prashanthns (talk) 19:07, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
Thanks for your answer, you could remove the note but it will not show up in articles so there is no harm in letting it stay either.
Best regards,
Huib talk 17:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Sure. Leaving it. :)Prashanthns (talk) 18:05, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

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Hello, Abigor/Archives/2009!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

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2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations"). Pro-tip: The CommonSense tool can help you find the best category for your image.

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 05:58, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

The Emirr

Dank u voor waarschuwen mij. Ik spreek geen Nederlands goed. Dus, vergeef mijn fouten. En ik moet Engels spreken. I didn't get it. What did you mean by that. Logos? Do you wanna that I upload my logos here? Goede dagen.

 The Emirr Disscussion 10:29, 07 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,
You can speak English here, that isn't that much of a problem and I can understand it pretty wel.
Commons doesn't have a policy that is saying that we can upload fair use material like logo's here, so if you upload a logo without permission archived in our OTRS system it will be deleted.
The English Wikipedia does have a Fair use policy so it can be uploaded there with the link I did give to you, it will not be deleted there since the are allowing it.
Best regards,
Huib talk 17:49, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment on Alpertron's RfA

Please see my Deleted Contributions again. Best regards, Alpertron (talk) 16:59, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
I will take look at it later on okay?
Best regards,
Huib talk 17:48, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


Hi, I wouldn't worry too much about people disagreeing with you. It's in the nature of things that not everybody has the same point of view. What is sure, is that 2+2 doesn't equal five. -- User:Docu at 17:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

J boats

Hi-

I am the Chairman of J/Boats Inc, owner of the images that I have uploaded call J24fleet.jpg and ALL the other images that I've uploaded. Please "UNDO" the deletion immediately.

Thank you, Stuart

Hi Stuj24,
in case you are behind this comment, I told you this morning on your talkpage that in such a case we need a permission and I also explained how to do that. --Túrelio (talk) 18:11, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:Potd/2009-10

Hi. I see you created this template. Do you know who selected the pictures for this month? There are four butterfly pics closely following each other, and two of them are from the same species even. Apparently someone butterfly-aholic must have done such an order. This is utterly boring, butterflies all the time... If we try to change it, it gets reverted I hear from colleagues on huwiki. Is it possible to get the order changed at least? So that these butterflies wouldn't come daily? Thank you for your reply in advance. --Teemeah (talk) 07:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,
I was trying to contact a user that know more about the POTD system than me but it seems nobody is aivable to help me on this, and I'm not sure enough that I could give a correct answer so I will not answer, because a wrong answer wouldn't help you.
I would give you the advice to drop this in the village pump there are a lot of users, and I'm sure somebody is willing to take a look on this.
Sorry that I kept you waiting,
Huib talk 19:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

pics deleted

hi Abigor,

I just saw that you deleted my picture « File:Model-sowar.jpg » ‎because of a copyright violation. I'm sorry but I don't understand why. Is that because this picture is also on the website of the company ? because this picture was on my computer and I have the authorization from the company but I don't which licence will be appropriate. Could you explain me ? Thank you in advance. --CINDY1983 (talk) 09:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,
I deleted your files after they where discussed here.
Your files are also visible on a website and the size you are using on Commons is the same as the website, that makes it kind of heard to check if the files are own work or not, so they are deleted but the will come back after you have handled some things with our OTRS system.
You should sent a email like this:
I <name>
Are the author of the files shown on the internetpage <site name> and I want to release the files under a free license <license>, I do understand that I cant revoke the license and that everybody can use my work for personal and commercional use within the terms of the license.
Best regards,
This email should be sent with a email that could verify that you work for the site, or should contain other information that it are you're pictures on this site.
When you have sent the email, a OTRS volunteer (we are all volunteers so it could take some time before you get a answer) will look at it and email you when they need more information or undelete the files and attach a OTRS-permission number on it.
Best regards,
Huib talk 19:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:Potd/2009-10

Hi. I see you created this template. Do you know who selected the pictures for this month? There are four butterfly pics closely following each other, and two of them are from the same species even. Apparently someone butterfly-aholic must have done such an order. This is utterly boring, butterflies all the time... If we try to change it, it gets reverted I hear from colleagues on huwiki. Is it possible to get the order changed at least? So that these butterflies wouldn't come daily? Thank you for your reply in advance. --Teemeah (talk) 07:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,
I was trying to contact a user that know more about the POTD system than me but it seems nobody is aivable to help me on this, and I'm not sure enough that I could give a correct answer so I will not answer, because a wrong answer wouldn't help you.
I would give you the advice to drop this in the village pump there are a lot of users, and I'm sure somebody is willing to take a look on this.
Sorry that I kept you waiting,
Huib talk 19:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

pics deleted

hi Abigor,

I just saw that you deleted my picture « File:Model-sowar.jpg » ‎because of a copyright violation. I'm sorry but I don't understand why. Is that because this picture is also on the website of the company ? because this picture was on my computer and I have the authorization from the company but I don't which licence will be appropriate. Could you explain me ? Thank you in advance. --CINDY1983 (talk) 09:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,
I deleted your files after they where discussed here.
Your files are also visible on a website and the size you are using on Commons is the same as the website, that makes it kind of heard to check if the files are own work or not, so they are deleted but the will come back after you have handled some things with our OTRS system.
You should sent a email like this:
I <name>
Are the author of the files shown on the internetpage <site name> and I want to release the files under a free license <license>, I do understand that I cant revoke the license and that everybody can use my work for personal and commercional use within the terms of the license.
Best regards,
This email should be sent with a email that could verify that you work for the site, or should contain other information that it are you're pictures on this site.
When you have sent the email, a OTRS volunteer (we are all volunteers so it could take some time before you get a answer) will look at it and email you when they need more information or undelete the files and attach a OTRS-permission number on it.
Best regards,
Huib talk 19:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Loshenkov-a-20183.png

Hi Abigor, I hope you don't mind that I've - at least temporarily - undeleted File:Loshenkov-a-20183.png after I was told that it might really be PD. The claimant will put the "proof" into the description. --Túrelio (talk) 18:55, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Turelio,
The undeletion is no problem by me, I love to hear that we can keep, or maybe keep files because that should be our main target.
Shall I remove the {{copyvio}} from the image page before a other administrator deletes it again?
Best regards,
Huib talk 18:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Abigor, it seems this IP user has already removed the cv template, after adding the PD-proof, that may have still to be check by somebody who knows about that stuff. Regards. --Túrelio (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed it. It looks okay to me but I will poke a few users that are more expirienced in that field, It would be great if we could keep it. Huib talk 21:14, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Monuments in Yaroslavl Oblast

Excuse me, please, restore the following files within (if not mistaken) the PD-OLD:

Sorry, that once they are not hedge and for my English.--Berillium (talk) 19:35, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,
I undeleted those files and the category right away, I'm very sorry that I missed those 7 files, I thought I checked all of them, thanks for letting me know that they where wrongly deleted.
Best regards,
Huib talk 20:28, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, look, please also
* File:Resurrection Str. Demidov memorial.jpg
* File:Memorial sign sister-city of Yaroslavl (front).jpg
* File:Memorial sign sister-city of Yaroslavl (back).jpg
The last two is boulders - perhaps they can leave. Best regards, Berillium (talk) 21:25, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
✓ Done - Huib talk 05:01, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

placing comments that aren't true

Hoi, sterkebak/huib/abigor, you accused me of lying. You removed my comment. Erik Warmelink (talk) 20:16, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

i send you a email please answer that !

Hi pseudonym, Special:EmailUser/Erik_Warmelink might work (and last month no mail to it from wiki[mp]edia servers was refused). If you tried to mail the account which receives that mail (that is: the email-account I gave to wiki[mp]edia, and which was promised to be hidden) from another mailserver, your email has been refused (sometimes only temporary; even with too long values for "temporary" and thus dropped to the floor), just like the spam (419, viagra, &c.) and those announcements that I would be blocked a few seconds later by some other admin.
But, most of all, I don't talk privately to sockpuppets, even if the puppetmaster might not also be the master of nl:212.123.186.115, nl:85.214.45.170, nl:Gebruiker:Paris8798217227, nl:Waarheid van Roubaix, nl:Montreal groet Andre, nl:B4 France, nl:Berlin057, nl:gebruiker:Likmijn poepje, nl:Doorgedraaide trollenhater, nl:Tim Auke haat trollen, nl:Jan Kees Munich, nl:Jaco Gijs, abusing the name of a celebrity, nl:81.169.130.185, nl:91.121.13.62, nl:91.121.10.81, nl:85.191.37.158 or nl:DingDong.
And finally, vandalizing categories like Category:Monuments in Yaroslavl Oblast will not promote goodwill. Erik Warmelink (talk) 21:37, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Breaking in with a point of clarification here, the line about e-mail was added by a different user in a different context [2], not by Abigor in response to Erik. Hope that clarifies some - have a nice day and be nice to each other now. :) Best regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 23:30, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I agree that User:Marcelo Salvioli could be a different user, though I don't agree it was a different context. But it would be quite a coincidence that another person (as opposed to another username) would mention email when I seldom edit on my home town because of email stalking (22737208, 23130881). It could be a coincidence that Category:Demidovsky Pillar, Yaroslavl was deleted when I have written on four user talkpages the last days, including my own, the talkpage of User:Demidow and the talkpage of the deletor. It could be a coincidence that a certain locality is misspelt as gallows­man (instead of the conventional gale­man) when my father lives there (in Dutch "galge" and "gagel" are even more similar).
It could all be coincidence, but I do not dismiss alternative explanations yet. Erik Warmelink (talk) 04:32, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Erik Warmelink, I would like to ask you once to leave this talkpage and stop harassing me.
If you call me a sock puppet or a sockmaster for all those names above you should make sure you have some proof,
If you call me a vandal you should make sure you have some proof.
You're harassing behaviour will not be accepted and I ask you once to stop it right now!
Huib talk 04:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

E-mail

i send you a email please answer that !

Hello,
I didn't get a email so I cant answer it, it would probably be faster to discuss it here.
Best regards,
Huib talk 21:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

file:Family1.jpg

Hi there,

I was wondering if you can help me. I made a lot of 'speedy deletion' requests - pictures I was no longer using in my articles or pictures that I had uploaded under the wrong licenses etc, however now it looks like other pictures that I AM using in my articles have been deleted while the other pictures are still in the system. Can you help? Lac tb (talk) 07:23, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,
We don't just deleted files by user request since you uploaded them on Commons under a free license, and those kind of licensing are inrevocible.
I would suggest you read the DR page and start a mass nomination for all the files you want deleted, when you all nominated them the Commons Communety will decide when we delete or keep them, you cant just ask for the deletion of your files sorry,
Huib talk 17:19, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Copyvio

Hi ! Thank you for deleting the media Aston Martin DB4 GTZ. Actually, all the images uploaded by the user C.couvrat are under copyright. If you can and if you have the time, may you delete all images and lock this user ? Ascaron (talk) 17:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
You're lucky, I had some time left. It seems this user was taking his pictures from the Austen Martin site and therefor the where all copyright violations. (Yeah I'm sorry but I had the check before deleting, better be safe than sorry right?)
All files are deleted and the account is locked, thank you very much for your note about this.
Best regards,
Huib talk 17:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Amicalement, Ascaron (talk) 17:23, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Cat gadget

Thanks for implementing the request. It works well, seems even quicker than the user js version. Just one thing I forgot, to display the texts in the preferences, the prefix "gadget-" is needed on the mediawiki messages fix. -- User:Docu at 08:39, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

✓ Done - Thanks for the note, I Moved the two pages to the new name. Huib talk 09:56, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


question

Hi Huib, I uploaded the image File:Mytouch 3G on sale.JPG because they used this image File:Hawaii turtle.JPG of mine as the wallpaper for the phone. I wonder, if the image I uploaded is OK to stay, or it might be considered a promotion of some kind. Thank you for your time.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:46, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Mila,
Lets start with the fact that it is very nice that your picture is on that phone in the store, I'm still hoping something like this would ever happen to one of my pictures.
When I see a picture like this on the recent uploads, I would open it and nominate it for DW but since the image on the phone's is free I don't think this could be a problem. The phones can be counted to the minimus so that wouldn't a problem to, the only thing that I see that could cause problems is the logo on the display, but thats so small I wouldn't nominate it therefor.
I would say that your picture is fine to stay on Commons, but I need to be fair and say this isn't my strongest part of knowledge about the Commons policies. When I see this picture knowing that the wallpaper is free I wouldn't nominate it for Deletion, and I think a lot of people will think the same in this case.
Best regards,
Huib talk 20:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the response! I have one more question please. My son took a rather interesting image, and asked me to upload it to Commons as mine own. Do you believe it is OK, or we still should go through OTRS? Thank you for your time.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
When I would say that you could upload it under your name, I would say that it is okay to break Commons policies. But I have uploaded pictures taken by my girlfriend under my name in the past. (Now she has her own account).
I think that there is also a other way to upload it without OTRS, you're sun could always make a account to upload it as own work, this way he doesn't need to email to OTRS.
I think the most "safe" way is to upload it under a own account or use OTRS, uploading under your account could cause drama, but I know that there are people doing it that way.
All the best,
Huib talk 20:54, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Of course he's too busy to open an account. I guess I'll try to upload the image as mine own. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:56, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Neve_and_Gliz.jpg

Hi, can you delete the template {{delete}} from the photo now? --Gildos (talk) 21:19, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
I cant help you with that because I opened the deletion request so a other administrator would have to close it.
I think that it will be closed by somebody the next few days, there just need to be a administrator passing by, if I would close it it would be a conflict of intress and that could cause problems.
Best regards,
Huib talk 03:18, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. --Gildos (talk) 08:35, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Deleting of Logo_STEG.svg

Hello Abigor

Why do you have deleted our company logo? We have the Copyright. There is no copyright violation!

Greetings from Switzerland

Hello,
When you say you have permission or the copyright isn't good enough. A proof that you have permission or that you own the copyright should be forwarded to OTRS (permissions-commons@wikimedia.org). The people who volunteer in the OTRS team will try to verify this and when its alright you get a respond back. When al is done you will receive a ticket number. When you request undeletion with that number a administrator will undelete the image.
Or you can skip this and do:
Special:Upload. Than you will upload it locally and that Wikipedia and can it only be used on that Wikipedia. If its for a other project please paste Special:Upload in the search field. For uploading on English Wikipedia you have to become auto confirmed first, that means you need to do 10 edits before you can upload.
When you still have any questions or need help please ask me.
Huib talk 17:14, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
It looks like {{PD-textlogo}} to me, so I don't think permission is necessary. –Tryphon 18:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm not that sure about that because of the T and some other letters, but we could let it run for Deletion if you like Tryphon. Huib talk 19:03, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I think it's best to get more opinions on that, so a DR or an undeletion request would be fine. You want to do it, or should I? –Tryphon 19:26, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
done Commons:Deletion requests/File:Logo STEG.svg, btw it doesn't have a license. Huib talk 20:28, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Good, thanks! –Tryphon 20:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Valencia !!!KAMPIÓ!!!.jpg

Why are you deleted my picture?. i was make that picture in Mestalla Stadium (Valencia) with my cell phone?, it doesn't infringe the copyright because i'm the own of that image. --Ravave (talk) 18:14, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
The problem with the image isn't that you doesn't have the photographer rights, but you made a picture from the logo and the logo is protected by copyright and therefor is your picture also a copyright violation.
You could read more info about this on this page,
Huib talk 18:17, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
OK, Thanks for answer me xD. --Ravave (talk) 18:39, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Naming

So you renamed yourself, I already wondered! :) Hekerui (talk) 19:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

No wait, I only notice because I usually see your account name. Nevermind :) Hekerui (talk) 20:41, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

:-) Huib talk 12:30, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

logo deleted

Hi. You have deleted a picture that I have uploaded. Could you please make it clear why that was done? I am part of the organisation whose logo has been deleted, and I am sure this was not illegal.

Vineethkuruvath (talk) 13:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
Your logo has been deleted according to Commons policies, when you want to upload a logo into Commons it needs to be text only or permission should be send to OTRS.
We have a lot of reasons why we cant just take your word when you say you work for the organisation or when you say you have permission, I guess you do understand that we cant just check if you work there and we cant just check if you have permission so you will need to send a email to permissions-commons [at] wikimedia [dot] org, the email should look like:
Hello,
I want to release a logo <link to the logo>, so it can be used in Commons. I understand that when I release the image under the <license you want to use> it cant be revoked and I give everybody permission to use, edit and share-alike for personal and commercional use according to the rules writen down in the license.
I have permission for releasing to logo.
Best regards,
<your name> <your function>
You should send this email with a e-mail adres that could be matched to the organisation so our volunteers know you work for the organisation. When our volunteers have seen your email, the will check if everything is okay and if so they will undelete the file.
Best regards,
Huib talk 13:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Guisset.jpg

New to all of this, but can you tell me what was wrong with the Jerome Guisset image. Many thanks. Lando09 (talk) 15:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
I deleted the file because it doesn't pass our Licensing policy, our policy says that all files here should be licensed in a way that they can be used for private stuff but also for commercial.
Your file has a non-commercial license, therefor it can't be used on Commons, when you look on Flickr you can only use two types of license.
  • cc-by
  • cc-by-sa
You could read some more information on Commons:Flickr files and in our Licensing policy.
Best regards,
Huib talk 15:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Much obliged. Lando09 (talk) 19:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
No problem really, feel free to come back when you need more help in the future. Huib talk 19:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Image

Hello Abigor. I've noticed that you deleted Image:Ramon_Santamarina_new3.png. I wanted to know why you did that, because it was a derivated work of Image:Ramón Santamarina 2.gif. Regards, Flag of Argentina.svg Agustín Any question? es-wiki 18:53, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey,
I deleted the file because it didn't had a correct source, the source on file was trabajo propio (own work) but when it is a old photograph like this it is impossible that you're really the maker of the photo so it ended up deleted.
It would have been much better if you did give derivated work of Image:Ramón Santamarina 2.gif as source, because that would have been correct and the file wouldn't have been deleted.
Also, you have placed a new license on the file, but since you only cropped the image and didn't change big things that makes the file completely different you can't change the license, to relicense the file you should make big adjustments not only a crop :)
I have undeleted the file and adjusted the things mentioned above, so its back online now.
Best regards,
Huib talk 19:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh, thanks! The problem was that I didn't upload the modified file; it was uploaded by another user, who did what you mentioned. However, thanks for undeleting the file :). Greetings, Flag of Argentina.svg Agustín Any question? es-wiki 19:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

didnt leave lack of rationale notice

I noticed you deleted an image without leaving notices on talk pages as you are supposed to do when an image is used in an article explaning it missing information. I do not nessasarily think this image was nessasary but it sets a bad precident--209.181.16.93 22:58, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Could you give a link to the file where I failed to notify the uploader, because I think there are two kinds of deletion and it makes a big difference in how they are handled:
  1. We have deletions of files where I spot the files during the partolling of new files, I always notify the uploader about the deletion and in case of a Fair use file I also give some extra information. If a uploader didn't get notification in this case it is my fault.
  1. Deletions from files that are in our maintenance categories like Category:Unknown or category:Copyright violations, in this case I check so now and then if the uploader is notified, files in those categories are placed there by others and I believe the people that tag a file for deletion should also notify the uploaded. You have to understand that there are big backlogs in some maintenance categories and it is almost impossible to check all notifications because users can also blank the page, archive it or revert the notification, when the deleting administrator should check all deletions our backlogs will only grow because we would need like 10 minutes for a single deletion.
I do understand that it is important to notify the uploader in all time, but I think its the user that tag the files that should place the notification, and if I tag the file I would do my best to always notify the uploader.
Best regards,
Huib talk 09:42, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Unjustified undo

What possible reason do you have for undoing this edit I made? Are comments not permitted by the editor making the undeletion request once the request has started? Are you trying to make some sort of point to me? Ww2censor (talk) 21:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
I placed your edit back, I don't really know what happend but my guess is that I wanted to open the diff for the rfa for Dferg on my watchlist and pressed rollback by exident.
The rollback button is right above the diff button, and since I didn't had any reason to revert you this would be my best guess.
I'm very sorry for the revert, and thank you very much for the note.
Huib talk 21:39, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate your honesty and apology. It did seem like an odd edit indeed. Thanks Ww2censor (talk) 03:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

About the Derivative works

Hi Abigor.

I been having some problems undertanding the manage of some pictures. Law with product packaging and logos say that after 30 years of being in the market, if their licenses are not renewed, it turns into free content. I have a question as to why the pictures of some packaging are still not allowed to be uploaded.

Also, there was a picture, a drawn picture, of a person uploaded. Is that not allowed either given the fact that he's been dead since 1857 and it's not a patented picture.

Thanks. I will try to understand this better in order to avoid having them deleted again.

Hi,
Here on Commons we have a very strict policy regarding logo's, they need to be PD to upload here on Commons, or permission should be sorted with otrs. I guess you could upload a file with the fact that the logo isn't renewed but I think you should send a email to permission-commons@wikimedia.org with the proof that the logo isn't renewed before uploading. Otherwhise we delete them here because we are rather safe than sorry :).
Best regards,
Huib talk 18:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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Template Question

Hi Abigor, does an template exist, which say approximately "I do not belive, that the Picture is your own work please give further reverence"? I think I saw it before. Thanks --Schlurcher (talk) 17:49, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
I don't really know what template you mean I didn't see one before I guess, or do you mean template:Nld, Template:Nsd, Template:Npd?
Best regards,
Huib talk 18:16, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, the last one was it. --Schlurcher (talk) 19:16, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Your welcome. Huib talk 19:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Deletion

Why exactly was File:BP Bridge facing NW.jpg deleted? What was the copywrite vio? This was an important image in a Featured Article. Torsodog (talk) 17:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,
The problem with this file is the fact that its a 3d artwork placed in the United States of America and America doesn't have a COM:FOP law, this means that you cant take pictures with the artwork on it untill the author died 70 years, its to bad but that is the law.
You can find more usefull information on the page linked, but you can also always ask me when you need help.
Best regards,
Huib talk 18:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Neither the bridge nor the pavilion are pieces of artwork. This file needs to be undeleted, if possible, otherwise I will need to find another image. Torsodog (talk) 18:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry but I do think that those piece of metal are also a piece of art, you could make a undelete request on COM:UNDEL a other admin will take a look at it. Huib talk 18:21, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
These images have been through a review at the article's FAC and there was no problem. There are also MANY other images of the bridge and pavilion on the commons at Category:BP Bridge and Category:Jay Pritzker Pavilion. I would have appreciated some sort of discussion about this issue before you made the decision that these fall under 3d art and deleted the image. I guess I will just go to UNDEL then... Torsodog (talk) 18:27, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I undeleted the file and started a deletion request so others can comment. --MGA73 (talk) 18:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Thnks MGA73, responded there. Huib talk 19:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Pics

Hello I have this problem that my wiki - the bulgarian one banned uploading pics locally and I have to upload them here. Its not that bad, but I don`t know exactly what i can and can not upload and what type of permission or legalisation to use. --Danny bg (talk) 13:44, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
Sorry for the late respond, it seems that I totally missed this query and therefor you needed to wait :(
I think that you're quistion is to big to just answer it in a few words, I think you could best read this page it shows everything that we allow on Commons, for Freedom of Panorama you could best read this page.
There is also a page that gives all admins, all admins are listed there with there babel so you could find a native Bulgarian admin when its needed.
When you have more specific questions you're free to ask them here also
Happy editing!
Huib talk 19:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

critism

Though it won't help, could you so fair to give me a hint to what talkpage you are referring in your latest criticism, as I'm not aware that I linked to any talkpage. --18:49, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
Just for the safety that I would have missed a diff also I send you a E-mail.
Huib talk 19:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks.--Túrelio (talk) 20:12, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Zimbabwe $5 2006 Obverse.jpg

You just deleted this file probably because it has a fair-use-template. Strange thing is that it both was tagged with fair use PD. I can't imagine how it can be both. If you look in Category:PD-ZW-currency then there is a lot of images. My guess is that it was a mistake that the fair-use-template was on this note. Will you take a look at it? --MGA73 (talk) 15:30, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi,
I based my deletion on the {{Non-free use rationale}} template that came with upload and seeing this category I understand I made a mistake with the deletion :(
Now I restored the image and removed the template, I'm sorry that I made you come to my talkpage just because I didn't double check good enough.
Best regards,
Huib talk 16:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
No problem :-) I did the bot check :-( --MGA73 (talk) 19:33, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Photos

Hi I am having several problems with 4 photos that I put on the site. A User is deleting them. Thank you for the picture you aproved a while ago. --Pedu0303 (talk) 19:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

The photos: File:Avenida Luiz Dumont Villares.jpg File:Teatro Alfredo Mesquita.jpg File:Aniversário de Santana.jpg File:SESC Santana.jpg

Thanks for all.

Hi,
The problem with those files is that they are all marked as all rights reserved on Flickr, and this is a license we do not accept here on Commons.
Those files will get deleted someday soon, I'm not pressing the button since I'm also talking to you now, but I would advice you to read COM:FLICKR its full of useful info about the type of image we do accept on Commons.
Just let me know when you need more help,
Huib talk 20:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, Abigor/Archives/2009!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

Uploadwizard-categories.png

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations"). Pro-tip: The CommonSense tool can help you find the best category for your image.

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 05:35, 30 September 2009 (UTC)