User talk:Andy Dingley/Archive 2010 June

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File:Port Grant, Strathy Point - geograph.org.uk - 24541.jpg[edit]

I tried to get rid of Cat:Freight Cableways since there is no difference to Ropeway conveyors, and one picture is there and the next one here. The description says it is a type of blondin. And there is no general term generally accepted for all these early essays in moving a load from A to B. Now there is a Cat with only that single picture. I would suggest you put it to Blondin or Cable car or elsewhere, but please get away with Freight Cableways. --AHert (talk) 20:48, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Cat:Freight Cableways since there is no difference to Ropeway conveyors,
No, ropeways run continuously and move their loads (or at least cars) continuously. There are also cableways that don't do this, they only move intermittently. This includes the cable cranes and the Blondins. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:36, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
That may be your definition, or the definition in your area, but look at this: en:Usuzan Ropeway, en:Masada cableway, en:Mérida cable car, en:Nokogiriyama Ropeway, en:Asmara-Massawa Cableway, en:Skyrail Rainforest Cableway, en:COMILOG Cableway. There is no clear terminology anywhere, and everybody calls these installations using ropes how they like. The only problem is that I have never heard of freight cableways (since freight implies a third person handling/transporting the goods, but basically all the old ropeways/cableways were owned by the people owning the loads). In en:Aerial tramway all terms are used for the same thing. The only thing which I thought was clear in English, French and German is that cable cranes are something different, but again I do not know the difference between a cable crane and a blondin. --AHert (talk) 08:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't care too much about the naming, but there are distinct types of overhead cableway: continuously running multi-car and non-continuous single-car. This distinction should be preserved.
Blondins are cable cranes combined with one-direction cableways. They're also a term specifically from the Welsh slate industry, although this seems to have spread outwards too (as here). The "classic" Blondin is a gravity worked short-lift long-traverse crane that lifted a load at one side of a quarry wall, ran it slightly downhill across the quarry space, then lowered it (often tripped automatically) at the far side. The upper side fixed works were portable and moved around to follow the work. They didn't have a high lift capacity or the ability to lift at the mid-span. Andy Dingley (talk) 08:58, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Do you want to expand en:Blondin (quarry equipment) to this effect? The French seem to use fr:Blondin (génie civil) for cable cranes generally. --AHert (talk) 15:31, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Boys book of....[edit]

Hope we got it right this time! F G etc etc SatuSuro (talk) 11:42, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Fortunately I think that's the last of the British locos and I'm not trying to identify the US ones. Some of those pre-grouping locos are a right pain, the numbering sequences are all over the place, they re-used numbers on later builds. Why couldn't they all be like the GWR? Andy Dingley (talk) 12:17, 6 June 2010 (UTC)


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Will be offline from 23 june to 1 july (see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:KVDP ) Put deletion requests on hold for a week, or retain from deleting files for one week. KVDP (talk) 10:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)