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File tagging File:ICPD Launch 11th March 1999.jpg[edit]

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Copy of message to permisions.common@wikimedia.org 13:24 Damon Matthew Wise[edit]

   Damon Matthew Wise wrote:
   Please, please, please stop being like ejits and release to my team the image I gave them from my website http://www.DamonMatthewWise.info derived from my campaign and election posters I commissioned and bought the rights to in order to be able to use them on social networking and information sites.
   You and the admin team on wikipedia are attacking the poor guys on both sides - you by blocking images which are obviously destined for the information page, which has to be built with support from me and the family to get all the resources; and them for delays in getting verified and appropriate content.
   Please ensure that any images by the team on AspieNo1 which I gave given permission for (and are already publicly available on my facebook and flicker profiles, etc) can be used without interruption.
   File:Damon Matthew Wise Profile picture.jpg
   Best regards, Damon Matthew Wise.
   Damon Matthew Wise
   www.damonmatthewwise.info
   Damon Matthew Wise is a proposed Seanad (Irish Senate) Nominee in the Administrative Panel, to represent groups of people with disabilities. He is a Voluntary Community Worker and is known as an Aspie (person with Asperger's Syndrome). Damon is also a Trustee, Peer and Self Advocate and longstanding...

Proof of origin of pictures owned by Damon Matthew Wise for his information page[edit]

On Damon Matthew Wise (dot) info about page: -

Damon Matthew Wise . info about page profile picture . ... which is the same as: File:Damon Matthew Wise Profile picture.jpg

Photo: set to publicly available - free to use providing the quote owners and origin

This is an edited version of the pictures bought by Damon Matthew Wise from Angels Photographic studio, Henry Street Limerick and commissioned for home for promotional, publications and election materials in the elections.

The full set of these images and the details on them are available here: Damon Matthew Wise (RAW, rotated Left) Updated over a year ago · Taken at Election Posters Shots

Please undelete as instructed .... also these pictures as used for profile picture

=======================[edit]

File:Knot Tied In Space Irish Daily Star 5th September 1994 Pat Flanagan, Irish Daly Mail Monday 5th September 1995.jpg from Wise Family Album (again public rights distribution on facebook) Wise Family Album 1 September 2004 · Pictures of the Wise Family: Damon Matthew Wise, 43 [DMW] Karen Christine Wise, Neé McElligott, 39 [KCW] (Gene Tómas Iain Wise, RIP 1995) [GTIW] Michael Alexander Xavier Wise [MAXW], 16 [MAX W] Eve Lyndsey Florence Amanda Wise, 12 [ELFAW] Daniel Adam Xóan Wise, 9 [DAXW] (including some members of the children of Wise-Javeri Family and McEligott family)

Damon Matthew Wise 1 September 2004 · Allowed on timeline One of many pictures (not available on Microfiche from National Library of Ireland - thus pictured on Mobile phone), Irish Daily Star, 5th September 1994, Page 5. Knot Tied In Space! This is one of a number of pictures of the Charity Star Trek Wedding of Damon Matthew Wise and Karen Christine Wise (nee McElligott) in aid of Irish Society for Autism, ASPIRE (the Asperger's Syndrome Association of IREland) and AUTINET, which included most national newspapers, The Arts Show and The Gerry Ryan Show. — with Karen Christine Wise, Gates McFadden and Gates McFadden.

Damon Matthew Wise 1 September 2004 · Close up of the picture. Thanks to the National Library of Ireland we were able to use digital camera and archive it to my Facebook Album. Picture is taken by hovering mobile phone over hardbound copy of newspapers. Other papers have articles from 1st September to 9th September 1994. Most pictures of the Star Trek wedding are in the Sunday papers on the 4th September 1994 and the daily papers on Monday 5th September 1994. Missing from the records of the National Library include Sunday Independent, Sunday Times, News of the World, Sunday People, Sunday Record, The Irish Sun, The Irish Mail, The Irish Mirror (all of which were not kept by TNL until 1996 as these were considered English papers and most of which are in colour) and the Irish Independent, which is missing for the 5th September 1994; and an article in the summer by Lise Hand in the Sunday Independent some weeks or months before. If you have any of these please let us know.

Same again - please undelete

===================[edit]

Regarding your conspiracy to block the use of content - please do not remove lawfully uploaded content:

File tagging File:ICPD Launch 11th March 1999.jpg

From Clare Network of People with Disabilities album on Damon's profile on Facebook .... also in cover

Clare Network of People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd Updated over a year ago · Taken at Various group shots, etc Pictures of Clare Network of People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd group photos

Damon Matthew Wise 24 May 2009 Allowed on timeline Group shot of National Board (yours truly included, as a National Board and Conference Committee member) at Launch of Irish Council of People with Disabilities (11th March 1997 in the Great Hall, Lower Ground Floor, Dublin Castle), in Ireland with Minister of Equality Mervyn Taylor, TD and President Mary Robinson at Great Hall, Dublin Castle during the "rainbow government". ICPD was later "nationalised" in December 1998 by John ("JOD whom thinks he is GOD") O'Donaghue, TD as Minister of Justice, Equality and Law Reform. After battling each other in the courts, and with much egg on his face, resulting in a judge being transferred off circuit after attacking his actions in the membership data protection case (taken by myself and Karen), it was relaunched as People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd. Another picture with the People's President in in my family album. Ironically after more then a decade under manipulation of the organisation, and pressure in respect of funding, People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd was closed down after 31st December 2011 - essentially for following orders, in wasting funds and resources on staff seconded by the department, and not doing our job because we were being blocked. Network are in the process of working together with a view to relaunch in the style of ICPD as a volunteer-run body - proposed for the 15th anniversary of this launch. — with Karen Christine Wise.

Original picture scanned by Damon Matthew Wise from original rights free publicity and publication picture. Please stop the threat to delete Damon Matthew Wise personal property and rights being released for use on Damon Matthew Wise wikipadia information page.

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File:Damon Matthew Wise shaking hand of President Robinson 11th March 1999.jpg

Damon Matthew Wise1 September 2004 ·Allowed on timelineIdentifiable from picture at launch of ICPD, Dublin castle 11th March 1997 arebottom, Derek Farrell, Stephen Stokes, Frank Mulcahy (introducing)and behind: Damon Wise (having hand shake), Maurice O'Kane, George Salter-Townsend, President Mary Robinson and Séan Leamy.Frank Mulcahy was Chair of the National Board; Derek Farrell, myself, George and Séan were the Management Committee and continued to be a pain in the but of JOD in several court cases standing up for the rights of members of ICPD to be self-advocating and not subject to the whims and political machinations of JOD. The President became UN Human Rights Commissioner.Another picture from Dublin Castle launch in the Clare Network of PwDI album.Unidentifiable in the back right behind Mary Robinson's head is Karen being walked out (she got tagged in the other picture)— with Damon Matthew Wise, Mary Robinson and Karen Christine Wise.Tag photoAdd locationEdit

Original picture scanned by Damon Matthew Wise from original rights free publicity and publication picture. Please stop the threat to delete Damon Matthew Wise personal property and rights being released for use on Damon Matthew Wise wikipadia information page.

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File:Damon Matthew Wise in 1977 outside Twee Toren Hasselt under 7 years old.jpg

Damon Matthew Wise 1 September 2004 · Allowed on timeline Damon Matthew Wise leafleting 1976 at Twee Toren (Two Towers), Hasselt, Limberg, Belgium

Original Scanned by Damon Matthew Wise from Generations Wise family album. v Please stop the threat to delete Damon Matthew Wise personal property and rights being released for use on Damon Matthew Wise wikipadia information page.

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Damon has sent messages to the relevant studio, photo agency and in respect of the Irish Daly Mail article freelance photographer and the paper requesting documentary clarification of the transfer of Rights to use content of him and use of same.

Copyright notices:[edit]

1 and 1a File:Damon Matthew Wise Profile picture.jpg[edit]

  1. Edit and saved from http://www.damonmatthewwise.info/images/Damon%20Profile%20Picture.jpg on website taken from with permission of Damon Matthew Wise:
  2. DamonMatthewWise information / campaign site

Source of origin Damon Matthew Wise commissioned, bought with rights from Angel Studio, Limerick

  1. Damon Matthew Wise (RAW, rotated Left) Updated over a year ago · Taken at Election Posters Shots Commissioned and shot for Green Party Election Posters
  2. © 2009 Angel Studio for Damon Matthew Wise/Federation Trust (Damon Matthew, Chair) All Rights Reserved - we reserve the right to grant permission for promotion, information and appropriate social media contents use in relation to the subject of Autism/disABILITY.

2 and 2a File:Knot Tied In Space Irish Daily Star 5th September 1994 Pat Flanagan, Irish Daly Mail Monday 5th September 1995.jpg[edit]

  1. Edit and saved from Wise Family Album 1 September 2004 · Pictures of the Wise Family: Damon Matthew Wise, 43 [DMW] Karen Christine Wise, Neé McElligott, 39 [KCW] (Gene Tómas Iain Wise, RIP 1995) [GTIW] Michael Alexander Xavier Wise [MAXW], 16 [MAX W] Eve Lyndsey Florence Amanda Wise, 12 [ELFAW] Daniel Adam Xóan Wise, 9 [DAXW] (inclusing some members of the children of Wise-Javeri Family and McEligott family)
  2. One of many pictures (not available on Microfiche from National Library of Ireland - thus pictured on Mobile phone), Irish Daily Star, 5th September 1994, Page 5. Knot Tied In Space! This is one of a number of pictures of the Charity Star Trek Wedding of Damon Matthew Wise and Karen Christine Wise (nee McElligott) in aid of Irish Society for Autism, ASPIRE (the Asperger's Syndrome Association of IREland) and AUTINET, which included most national newspapers, The Arts Show and The Gerry Ryan Show. — with Karen Christine Wise, Gates McFadden and Gates McFadden.
  3. Damon Matthew Wise 1 September 2004 · Allowed on timeline One of many pictures (not available on Microfiche from National Library of Ireland - thus pictured on Mobile phone), Irish Daily Star, 5th September 1994, Page 5. Knot Tied In Space! This is one of a number of pictures of the Charity Star Trek Wedding of Damon Matthew Wise and Karen Christine Wise (nee McElligott) in aid of Irish Society for Autism, ASPIRE (the Asperger's Syndrome Association of IREland) and AUTINET, which included most national newspapers, The Arts Show and The Gerry Ryan Show. — with Karen Christine Wise, Gates McFadden and Gates McFadden.
  4. https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/205635_1021681520094_2561797_n.jpgClose up of the picture. Thanks to the National Library of Ireland we were able to use digital camera and archive it to my Facebook Album. Picture is taken by hovering mobile phone over hardbound copy of newspapers. Other papers have articles from 1st September to 9th September 1994. Most pictures of the Star Trek wedding are in the Sunday papers on the 4th September 1994 and the daily papers on Monday 5th September 1994. Missing from the records of the National Library include Sunday Independent, Sunday Times, News of the World, Sunday People, Sunday Record, The Irish Sun, The Irish Mail, The Irish Mirror (all of which were not kept by TNL until 1996 as these were considered English papers and most of which are in colour) and the Irish Independent, which is missing for the 5th September 1994; and an article in the summer by Lise Hand in the Sunday Independent some weeks or months before. If you have any of these please let us know.
  5. © 1994 Martin Maher/Daily Star, The National Library and Irish Newspaper Archives - this reproduction permissions granted for limited us in relation to covering charity work and information sources to Damon Matthew Wise 1994-2013: Trustees of Federation Trust (Chair: Damon Matthew Wise) All Rights Reserved - we reserve the right to grant permission for promotion, information and appropriate social media contents use in relation to the subject of autism and disABILITY.

3 File tagging File:ICPD Launch 11th March 1999.jpg[edit]

  1. Scanned, edited and saved from rights-given photo for the purpose of promotion and distribution to media, campaigning and public awareness Clare Network of People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd Updated over a year ago · Taken at Various group shots, etc Pictures of Clare Network of People wth Disabilities in Ireland Ltd group photos
  2. Group shot of National Board (yours truly included, as a National Board and Conference Committee member) at Launch of Irish Council of People with Disabilities (11th March 1997 in the Great Hall, Lower Ground Floor, Dublin Castle), in Ireland with Minister of Equality Mervyn Taylor, TD and President Mary Robinson at Great Hall, Dublin Castle during the "rainbow government". ICPD was later "nationalised" in December 1998 by John ("JOD whom thinks he is GOD") O'Donaghue, TD as Minister of Justice, Equality and Law Reform. After battling each other in the courts, and with much egg on his face, resulting in a judge being transferred off circuit after attacking his actions in the membership data protection case (taken by myself and Karen), it was relaunched as People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd. Another picture with the People's President in in my family album. Ironically after more then a decade under manipulation of the organisation, and pressure in respect of funding, People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd was closed down after 31st December 2011 - essentially for following orders, in wasting funds and resources on staff seconded by the department, and not doing our job because we were being blocked. Network are in the process of working together with a view to relaunch in the style of ICPD as a volunteer-run body - proposed for the 15th anniversary of this launch. — with Karen Christine Wise.
  3. © 1997 Damon Matthew Wise/ICPD, 1999-2001 ICPD Ltd/Damon Matthew Wise (Secretary: Damon Matthew Wise); 2001-2012 Federation Trust/Damon Matthew Wise (Damon Matthew, Chair) and NCPD - the National Council for People with Disabilities Limited/Damon Matthew Wise All Rights Reserved - we reserve the right to grant permission for promotion, information and appropriate social media contents use in relation to the subject of disABILITY.

4 and 4a File:Damon Matthew Wise shaking hand of President Robinson 11th March 1999.jpg[edit]

  1. Scanned, edited and saved from rights-given photo for the purpose of promotion and distribution to media, campaigning and public awareness Wise Family Album 1 September 2004 · Pictures of the Wise Family: Damon Matthew Wise, 43 [DMW] Karen Christine Wise, Neé McElligott, 39 [KCW] (Gene Tómas Iain Wise, RIP 1995) [GTIW] Michael Alexander Xavier Wise [MAXW], 16 [MAX W] Eve Lyndsey Florence Amanda Wise, 12 [ELFAW] Daniel Adam Xóan Wise, 9 [DAXW] (inclusing some members of the children of Wise-Javeri Family and McEligott family)
  1. Identifiable from picture at launch of ICPD, Dublin castle 11th March 1997 are bottom, Derek Farrell, Stephen Stokes, Frank Mulcahy (introducing) and behind: Damon Wise (having hand shake), Maurice O'Kane, George Salter-Townsend, President Mary Robinson and Séan Leamy. Frank Mulcahy was Chair of the National Board; Derek Farrell, myself, George and Séan were the Management Committee and continued to be a pain in the but of JOD in several court cases standing up for the rights of members of ICPD to be self-advocating and not subject to the whims and political machinations of JOD. The President became UN Human Rights Commissioner. Another picture from Dublin Castle launch in the Clare Network of PwDI album. Unidentifiable in the back right behind Mary Robinson's head is Karen being walked out (she got tagged in the other picture) — with Damon Matthew Wise, Mary Robinson and Karen Christine Wise.

(B& W Version of Same; Her Excellency President Mary Robinson being introduced to Damon Matthew Wise, also included in this photo Derek Farrell, George Salter-Townshend, Frank Mulcahy (introducing) Bill Hammell and Sean Leamy — with Derek Farrell, Damon Matthew Wise, Bill Hammill, Stephen Stokes, George Salter-Tonshend, Her Excellency President Mary Robinson, Frank Mulcahy and Sean Leamy.

  1. ©1997 Damon Matthew Wise/ICPD, 1999-2001 ICPD Ltd/Damon Matthew Wise (Secretary: Damon Matthew Wise); 2001-2012 Federation Trust/Damon Matthew Wise (Damon Matthew, Chair) and NCPD - the National Council for People with Disabilities Limited/Damon Matthew Wise All Rights Reserved - we reserve the right to grant permission for promotion, information and appropriate social media contents use in relation to the subject of disABILITY.

File:Damon Matthew Wise in 1977 outside Twee Toren Hasselt under 7 years old.jpg[edit]

  1. Wise Family Album 1 September 2004 · Pictures of the Wise Family: Damon Matthew Wise, 43 [DMW] Karen Christine Wise, Neé McElligott, 39 [KCW] (Gene Tómas Iain Wise, RIP 1995) [GTIW] Michael Alexander Xavier Wise [MAXW], 16 [MAX W] Eve Lyndsey Florence Amanda Wise, 12 [ELFAW] Daniel Adam Xóan Wise, 9 [DAXW] (inclusing some members of the children of Wise-Javeri Family and McEligott family)

Damon Matthew Wise leafleting 1976 at Twee Toren (Two Towers), Hasselt, Limberg, Belgium

© 2004 Damon Matthew Wise Scanned from picture taken from Wise Family Album property of Damon Matthew Wise, All Rights Reserved - we reserve the right to grant permission for promotion, information and appropriate social media contents use in relation to the subject of disABILITY.

Why is section 5 still not completed[edit]

5 Proof of origin of pictures owned by Damon Matthew Wise for his information page

   5.1 =======================
   5.2 ===================
   5.3 =================
   5.4 =================
   5.5 =================

Why have you not yet added yesterdays uploads of chat with and confirmation from Damon.Matthew.Wise.Ireland(at)Facebook.com (via copy to Info(at)ICAAN.ie of all messages sent into permisions.common@wikimedia.org): -

   Conversation started Sunday
   13:24
   Damon Matthew Wise
   Please, please, please stop being like ejits and release to my team the image I gave them from my website http://www.DamonMatthewWise.info derived from my campaign and election posters I commissioned and bought the rights to in order to be able to use them on social networking and information sites.
   You and the admin team on wikipedia are attacking the poor guys on both sides - you by blocking images which are obviously destined for the information page, which has to be built with support from me and the family to get all the resources; and them for delays in getting verified and appropriate content.
   Please ensure that any images by the team on AspieNo1 which I gave given permission for (and are already publicly available on my facebook and flicker profiles, etc) can be used without interruption.
   File:Damon Matthew Wise Profile picture.jpg
   Best regards, Damon Matthew Wise.
   Damon Matthew Wise
   www.damonmatthewwise.info
   Damon Matthew Wise is a proposed Seanad (Irish Senate) Nominee in the Administrative Panel, to represent groups of people with disabilities. He is a Voluntary Community Worker and is known as an Aspie (person with Asperger's Syndrome). Damon is also a Trustee, Peer and Self Advocate and longstanding...
   Sunday
   16:51
   Damon Matthew Wise
   Enclosed find confirmation of permissions given for the use of the images of myself, to which I hold the rights to use and I have authorised on wikipedia on the page about my non-paid voluntary and charity work..
   I confirm again as previously stated that I have given permission to use my likeness and images for the benefit of the page which is designed to assist in supporting the charity and voluntary work.
   Please allow aspieno1 to us these and any other images which I have the rights to. I confirm the links and information uploaded by aspieno1 is correct - you may look through the picture albums locations for other images which I and Karen may give permissions to upload.
   " On Damon Matthew Wise (dot) info about page: -
   Damon Matthew Wise . info about page profile picture . ... which is the same as: File:Damon Matthew Wise Profile picture.jpg
   Photo: set to publicly available - free to use providing the quote owners and origin
   This is an edited version of the pictures bought by Damon Matthew Wise from Angels Photographic studio, Henry Street Limerick and commissioned for home for promotional, publications and election materials in the elections.
   The full set of these images and the details on them are available here: Damon Matthew Wise (RAW, rotated Left) Updated over a year ago · Taken at Election Posters Shots
   Please undelete as instructed .... also these pictures as used for profile picture
   =================================== File:Knot Tied In Space Irish Daily Star 5th September 1994 Pat Flanagan, Irish Daly Mail Monday 5th September 1995.jpg from Wise Family Album (again public rights distribution on facebook) Wise Family Album 1 September 2004 · Pictures of the Wise Family: Damon Matthew Wise, 43 [DMW] Karen Christine Wise, Neé McElligott, 39 [KCW] (Gene Tómas Iain Wise, RIP 1995) [GTIW] Michael Alexander Xavier Wise [MAXW], 16 [MAX W] Eve Lyndsey Florence Amanda Wise, 12 [ELFAW] Daniel Adam Xóan Wise, 9 [DAXW] (including some members of the children of Wise-Javeri Family and McEligott family)
   Damon Matthew Wise 1 September 2004 · Allowed on timeline One of many pictures (not available on Microfiche from National Library of Ireland - thus pictured on Mobile phone), Irish Daily Star, 5th September 1994, Page 5. Knot Tied In Space! This is one of a number of pictures of the Charity Star Trek Wedding of Damon Matthew Wise and Karen Christine Wise (nee McElligott) in aid of Irish Society for Autism, ASPIRE (the Asperger's Syndrome Association of IREland) and AUTINET, which included most national newspapers, The Arts Show and The Gerry Ryan Show. — with Karen Christine Wise, Gates McFadden and Gates McFadden.
   Damon Matthew Wise 1 September 2004 · Close up of the picture. Thanks to the National Library of Ireland we were able to use digital camera and archive it to my Facebook Album. Picture is taken by hovering mobile phone over hardbound copy of newspapers. Other papers have articles from 1st September to 9th September 1994. Most pictures of the Star Trek wedding are in the Sunday papers on the 4th September 1994 and the daily papers on Monday 5th September 1994. Missing from the records of the National Library include Sunday Independent, Sunday Times, News of the World, Sunday People, Sunday Record, The Irish Sun, The Irish Mail, The Irish Mirror (all of which were not kept by TNL until 1996 as these were considered English papers and most of which are in colour) and the Irish Independent, which is missing for the 5th September 1994; and an article in the summer by Lise Hand in the Sunday Independent some weeks or months before. If you have any of these please let us know.
   Same again - please undelete
   =============================== Regarding your conspiracy to block the use of content - please do not remove lawfully uploaded content:
   File tagging File:ICPD Launch 11th March 1999.jpg
   From Clare Network of People with Disabilities album on Damon's profile on Facebook .... also in cover
   Clare Network of People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd Updated over a year ago · Taken at Various group shots, etc Pictures of Clare Network of People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd group photos
   Damon Matthew Wise 24 May 2009 Allowed on timeline Group shot of National Board (yours truly included, as a National Board and Conference Committee member) at Launch of Irish Council of People with Disabilities (11th March 1997 in the Great Hall, Lower Ground Floor, Dublin Castle), in Ireland with Minister of Equality Mervyn Taylor, TD and President Mary Robinson at Great Hall, Dublin Castle during the "rainbow government". ICPD was later "nationalised" in December 1998 by John ("JOD whom thinks he is GOD") O'Donaghue, TD as Minister of Justice, Equality and Law Reform. After battling each other in the courts, and with much egg on his face, resulting in a judge being transferred off circuit after attacking his actions in the membership data protection case (taken by myself and Karen), it was relaunched as People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd. Another picture with the People's President in in my family album. Ironically after more then a decade under manipulation of the organisation, and pressure in respect of funding, People with Disabilities in Ireland Ltd was closed down after 31st December 2011 - essentially for following orders, in wasting funds and resources on staff seconded by the department, and not doing our job because we were being blocked. Network are in the process of working together with a view to relaunch in the style of ICPD as a volunteer-run body - proposed for the 15th anniversary of this launch. — with Karen Christine Wise.
   Original picture scanned by Damon Matthew Wise from original rights free publicity and publication picture. Please stop the threat to delete Damon Matthew Wise personal property and rights being released for use on Damon Matthew Wise wikipadia information page. ============================= File:Damon Matthew Wise shaking hand of President Robinson 11th March 1999.jpg
   Damon Matthew Wise1 September 2004 ·Allowed on timelineIdentifiable from picture at launch of ICPD, Dublin castle 11th March 1997 arebottom, Derek Farrell, Stephen Stokes, Frank Mulcahy (introducing)and behind: Damon Wise (having hand shake), Maurice O'Kane, George Salter-Townsend, President Mary Robinson and Séan Leamy.Frank Mulcahy was Chair of the National Board; Derek Farrell, myself, George and Séan were the Management Committee and continued to be a pain in the but of JOD in several court cases standing up for the rights of members of ICPD to be self-advocating and not subject to the whims and political machinations of JOD. The President became UN Human Rights Commissioner.Another picture from Dublin Castle launch in the Clare Network of PwDI album.Unidentifiable in the back right behind Mary Robinson's head is Karen being walked out (she got tagged in the other picture)— with Damon Matthew Wise, Mary Robinson and Karen Christine Wise.Tag photoAdd locationEdit
   Original picture scanned by Damon Matthew Wise from original rights free publicity and publication picture. Please stop the threat to delete Damon Matthew Wise personal property and rights being released for use on Damon Matthew Wise wikipadia information page. ============================= File:Damon Matthew Wise in 1977 outside Twee Toren Hasselt under 7 years old.jpg
   Damon Matthew Wise 1 September 2004 · Allowed on timeline Damon Matthew Wise leafleting 1976 at Twee Toren (Two Towers), Hasselt, Limberg, Belgium
   Original Scanned by Damon Matthew Wise from Generations Wise family album. v Please stop the threat to delete Damon Matthew Wise personal property and rights being released for use on Damon Matthew Wise wikipadia information page. "
   16:53
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   Damon Matthew Wise
   Release of my rights to my pictures
   Wednesday
   13:55
   Damon Matthew Wise
   Conversation started today 13:41 Diane Curran
   Ya their the ones I was thinking of alright, See above, written permission was given, best of luck Diane 13:48 Damon Matthew Wise
   You got them - I got bounceback from permissions-commons@wikimedia.org can you please relay and confirm them directly? 13:50 Damon Matthew Wise
   You ought to be able to see my and Karen's albums as public figures we have then freely available - our Copyright tags read as follows: - © 2009 Angel Studio for Damon Matthew Wise/Federation Trust (Damon Matthew, Chair) All Rights Reserved - we reserve the right to grant permission for promotion, information and appropriate social media contents use in relation to the subject of Autism/disABILITY. 13:50 Diane Curran
   Hi Damon, is that message for me?Yes you have full permission, thanks Diane 13:52 Damon Matthew Wise
   Yea my messages to you and permissions-commons@wikimedia.org come back as "unable to send - try again" 13:53 Diane Curran
   Not sure about message to wiki, I have recieved and have given permission, need to sign off now Damon as I am on my hols, best of luck with it all Kind regards
   Diane
   Today
   04:50
   Damon Matthew Wise
   File:Damon Matthew Wise Profile picture.jpg
   From: https://www.facebook.com/diane.curran3
   Diane Curran Re: Contact form from www.angles-studio.ie 10:13 Hi Damon
   Can you confirm the name on the order aswell as the number you used when ordering and I can check for you. Every photographer reserves the copyright on images unless the copyright was sold to you, but I will check for you no problem
   Kind regards
   Diane Curran ANGLES PHOTOGRAPHY
   113 Henry Street Limerick 061315814 www.angles-studio.ie
   On 18 Aug 2013, at 17:08, Angles(at)iol.ie wrote:
   DateTime: Sunday 18th August 2013 05:08:27 PM Name : Damon Matthew Wise Email : Damon.Matthew.Wise.Ireland(at)facebook.com Query: Could you please confirm in writing, fax or by e-mail that we have the rights to use said photos and edit them for profile and webpages. I am referring to the images that you did of myself and Karen and were commissioned for the last local elections for election posters, literature and publicity purposes. Some ejit in wikimedia will not even allow our family album pictures to be used on my wikipedia page (to highlight my voluntary and community work for charities and causes) unless I get written permission.
   Please CC: my office e-mail, as well: Damon(at)ncpd.ie
   Best regards,
   Damon Matthew Wise and Karen Christine Wise. Conversation started today 10:13 Expand Diane Curran Re: Contact form from www.angles-studio.ie 10:16 Damon Matthew Wise
   Damon Matthew Wise and Karen Christine Wise - election photos for online material, press coverage, posters etc in 2009 local Elections - yes - Rights wee sold for the specific purpose. 10:56 Diane Curran
   Hi Damon, I think i remember but I need the number in order to track them, kind regards 11:07 Damon Matthew Wise
   Is there a keyword I can look for in our mail folders - such as a reference to the software program used to download the images or something?
   E-mail address used at the time, or keyword which will make a search our end easy to find anything in an e-mail?
   All receipts and paperwork would have been filled with returns for election expense. 11:15 Damon Matthew Wise
   If you on Facebook - the uploaded of the image, and messages of same are in the albums :- https://www.facebook.com/Damon.Matthew.Wise.Ireland/media_set?set=a.1004466129720.314.1766892240&type=3 and https://www.facebook.com/Damon.Matthew.Wise.Ireland/media_set?set=a.1004467089744.315.1766892240&type=3 and uploaded on 27 April 2009, so that ought to have been soon after, it it helps. 11:35 Diane Curran
   Hi Damon
   Im really sorry, that link just takes me to your facebook page. Can I have the mobile number you booked in with, or send me the actual jpeg. 2009 is a long time ago, my memory isn't that good " 11:36 Damon Matthew Wise
   086-231 3272? 11:37 Diane Curran
   Ok, I am away until wed week for summer break so I will check once I'm back, is that ok time for you? 11:52 Damon Matthew Wise
   18th March - email incomming in search now 11:52 Damon Matthew Wise
   youSENDit Priority Delivery Download File ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Sent by: Angles(at)iol.ie File to pick up: ANGLES STUDIO.zip File will remain active for: 14 days Link to file: https://rcpt.yousendit.com/665266691/1bed1c17bb0c140d19ec42a1490bf124 File too big for email? Try at http://www.yousendit.com YouSendIt Inc. | Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | DMCA Policy | Opt Out 1919 S. Bascom Avenue, 3rd Floor Campbell, CA 95008 11:54 Damon Matthew Wise
   Is that any use ... kind of urgent? 12:43 Diane Curran
   Nope, that link has expired. Its just I am on holidays at the moment, send me on the actual picture and hopefully I will remember as I can't check records until next wed as I am out of the office 12:49 Diane Curran
   Hi Damon
   Look I am just going to ok this as I am away for the week. I think I remember you, the only thing is I cannot give you it on angles paper. I will write approval below which you can send to wiki.
   I Diane Curran of Angles Photography, confirm that Damon Matthew Wise has full permission to use said photographs for wikipedia or any other medium. These photos were taken in 2009 and full copyright was given to the client.
   Have you any further questions please don't hesitate to contact me on our studio number, 061315814
   With Kind regards
   Diane Curran
   Conversation started today 13:41 Diane Curran
   Ya their the ones I was thinking of alright, See above, written permission was given, best of luck Diane 13:48 Damon Matthew Wise
   You got them - I got bounceback from permissions-commons@wikimedia.org can you please relay and confirm them directly? 13:50 Damon Matthew Wise
   You ought to be able to see my and Karen's albums as public figures we have then freely available - our Copyright tags read as follows: - © 2009 Angel Studio for Damon Matthew Wise/Federation Trust (Damon Matthew, Chair) All Rights Reserved - we reserve the right to grant permission for promotion, information and appropriate social media contents use in relation to the subject of Autism/disABILITY. 13:50 Diane Curran
   Hi Damon, is that message for me?Yes you have full permission, thanks Diane 13:52 Damon Matthew Wise
   Yea my messages to you and permissions-commons@wikimedia.org come back as "unable to send - try again" 13:53 Diane Curran
   Not sure about message to wiki, I have recieved and have given permission, need to sign off now Damon as I am on my hols, best of luck with it all Kind regards
   Diane Today 02:04You added permisions.common@wikimedia.org.
   ====== copyright notice on these pictures: - © 2009 Angel Studio for Damon Matthew Wise/Federation Trust (Damon Matthew, Chair) All Rights Reserved - we reserve the right to grant permission for promotion, information and appropriate social media contents use in relation to the subject of Autism/disABILITY.
Thats a little bit too much text for a very simple task. We not need "released for use on Damon Matthew Wise wikipadia information page". The only thing we need is the copyright holders written agreement that anyone, worldwide, can reuse the photo anywhere, anytime for every purpose including modifications and money making purposes. See Commons:Project scope#Required licensing terms. Anyone and commisioned for one person is an important difference. Also use for one article or in specific materials such as election materials and for any purpose is an important difference. There is a very simple email template linked at the permission information pages. Simply fill in the copyright holder, the license that the copyright holder agreed to, the name of the work and let the copyright owner sent the written permission to the given email adress. --Martin H. (talk) 17:26, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

As replied to that message on his Talk page: " Some kind of permission form has been filled in (and many communications and submissions made in the last week have not yet showed, and has been sent again by the subject and right holder - form assumes OR, when Damon is both personally and in a charitable/non-profit capacity exclusive right holder to the photos. Permission given under international law requires consent for use to be notified and use identified, for Public use. On the condition that use is appropriate to the subject. He information or public awareness in relation to his Community politics, autism, and disability charity and voluntary work and as journalist, writer, editor, publisher - and these photos are widely used across many web-pages for his various charity and non-profit groups as officer, director and committee member, and in various press and media - rights of which are exclusively used in connection with nominated charities approved.

If there is a specific form in relation to information pages, please locate, as only been given a general rights form, much of which is illegal under international law, and specific to US derivation from copyright law, according to Damon (with his legal advocate hat on).

AspieNo1 (talk) 08:28, 25 August 2013 (UTC) " AspieNo1 (talk) 08:32, 25 August 2013 (UTC) AspieNo1 (talk) 06:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

==== Revised upload of permissions ==== (copied from e-mail)[edit]

From: Damon Matthew Wise

12:26 (0 minutes ago)

to permissions-co., Damon, Damon, Damon, federationtrust, Karen.Christin., info Including images and variations of: - File:Damon Matthew Wise Profile picture.jpg File:Knot Tied In Space Irish Daily Star 5th September 1994 Pat Flanagan, Irish Daly Mail Monday 5th September 1995.jpg File:ICPD Launch 11th March 1999.jpg

File:Damon Matthew Wise shaking hand of President Robinson 11th March 1999.jpg

File:Damon Matthew Wise in 1977 outside Twee Toren Hasselt under 7 years old.jpg

Are freely available for use by AspieNo1 in respect of Autism, Disability charity, voluntary, community and non-profit work done by me and others.

Reproduction of attached document: -[edit]

To: permissions-commons@wikimedia.org

I hereby affirm that CHOOSE ONE: [I, (Damon Matthew Wise), am as individual] AND [(and as the subject of the pictures, from personal family album taken by my mother and appointed by me also shared an official as Chair of Trustees of Federation Trust, National Secretary of NCPD - the Irish Council for People with Disabilities Limited (and its predecessor organisations, People with Disabilities in Ireland Limited, as Secretary of the Irish Council of People with Disabilities Limited, as PRO and Management committee of the board of the Irish Council for People with Disabilities, the Council for the status of People with Disabilities; as Co-ordinator of the Irish Council for Aspies and Autistic Networking; as an authourised representative given rights of the images for autism disability and charity information by Angel Studies Limerick and the Irish National Library, who hold rights of previously published news media content and images donated to the state by the Irish Independent Newspapers Group, including titles and contents from the Irish Press and Irish Daily Star and Colman Doyle Photographic collection) is] the creator, authourising party and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of such donated content in respect of my image of previously with permission or rights bought works [The contents I have given permission to use in respect of articles in relation to myself, and autism and disability and charity works in relation to me are freely given providing contents show origin, context and quote source] such works include inter alia: 1 and 1a File:Damon Matthew Wise Profile picture.jpg (rights owned by me in personal and official capacity exclusively); 2 and 2a File:Knot Tied In Space Irish Daily Star 5th September 1994 Pat Flanagan, Irish Daly Mail Monday 5th September 1995.jpg (rights shared with National Library of Ireland the news paper and photographers); 3 File tagging File:ICPD Launch 11th March 1999.jpg (rights owned by me in personal and official capacity exclusively and freely given by Press 22 photographers); 4 and 4a File:Damon Matthew Wise shaking hand of President Robinson 11th March 1999.jpg (rights owned by me in personal and official capacity exclusively and freely given by Press 22 photographers); 6 File:Damon Matthew Wise in 1977 outside Twee Toren Hasselt under 7 years old.jpg (personal photograph donated by mother and digitised by me in generations album for me to use online) …

I agree to Open Rights with quoting of context and origin on issues in relation to myself or autism and disability work involving myself. I freely give permission if they contact me and notify me of use and where it will be used in such charity and non-commercial purpose across websites and social network and community resources, in accordance with international copyright law – AspiesNo1 has been authourised on Wikipedia and Wikimedia to use any such contents from my archives, and photographic library (Revised today 26th August 2013).

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a non-commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.

I am aware that the free license only concerns copyright, and I reserve the option to take action against anyone who uses this work in a libelous way, or in violation of personality rights, trademark restrictions, etc.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the work may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

[Damon Matthew Wise – subject of images], [Subject (right-holder, director and appointed representative of my own image both personally and professionally in relation to the images, charities, causes and categories)][18th August 2013 Christian Common Era, 18:35 UST]



Rights to image - Damon Matthew Wise (rev2).docx Rights to image - Damon Matthew Wise (rev2).docx 31K View Download AspieNo1 (talk) 11:29, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

== "Please release me, let me go" says Damon![edit]

Several days ago Damon sent in new release form, which I copied - original message is not yet showing. "Please release me, let me go" he wrote. Damon is NOT very annoyed and frustrated ad asking where Wiki offices are in Ireland so he can sue your "butt" to get his rights released for his article on wikipedia (substituting a five letter, proper English word for buttocks, not intended as a "cuss-word as Yanklish people would have" - and screaming "AGGGGGHHH - They're a bunch of Effin (Town in County Limerick, used as substitute for a proper substitute word sounding remarkably like and 11th century legal abbreviation, banned by illiterate Yanklish users) ejits - can't understand basic international copyright law to save their lives". All the images of him he gave permission to and sent in declarations on have been blocked. Surely there has to be a simpler way for allowing content of a person to which he holds rights be used in respect of articles on him and his activities.

Please release content to me for use in the articles and not show yourselves to be waste of spaces and "head-burrying morons" (substituted, similar expression to proper English term to describe people who pay too much attention to their buttocks, which in Yanklish also often mistaken for a "cuss").

PLEASE NOTE: CONTENT WAS EDITED IN ORDER NOT TO CAUSE OFFENCE TO NON-INTERNATIONAL ENGLISH READERS WHO HAVE A BAD HABIT TO HALLUCINATE AND DISPLAY A FANTASY AND BELIEVE PROPER ENGLISH EXPRESSIONS ARE "CUSS-WORDS". AspieNo1 (talk) 06:45, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Please! Damon Matthew Wise (talk) 07:36, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

It would be a criminal offence for Photo Studios and Photographers to be commissioned to take pictures to be released for a subject to distribute and use in media, online and for promotional purposes without them having the rights to use them thus causing a copyright infringement(as well as, if the opposite facilitating a crime in seeking to cause the subjects to use permissions illegally without confirmation). It is also a breach of copyright to have an image of the subject to which they have no right. In so far as Damon Matthew Wise is as person and professionally for the organisations copyright-holder and has signed and released same please stop behaving like fools and undelete all images. In the cases brought by Damon Vs Facebook in respect of his profile page, he proved his identity and rights to use and assert his image and allow it to be used in the context of his profiles, articles, and autism and charity work and is thus released for said purposes and widely available on the internet for such purposes. He has through me and here now stated ans asserted his rights to these images and the catalogues from which they come, and as such wiki is in breach of Irish, European and International copyright by refusing his rights to release his image. AspieNo1 (talk) 10:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC) Property rights and trespass to them in Ireland, under the constitutional right to property is not just civil but a criminal matter. AspieNo1 (talk) 10:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Repeated message of permissions of profile pictures sold with rights - just relayed on.[edit]

ANGLES PHOTOGRAPHY <Angles(at)iol.ie>

09:55 (1 hour ago)

to Permissions, me Hi Cindy

Appologies for the delay in getting the information to you, I am currently going through old records to locate the file. I'm sure you can appreciate I am extremely busy, having been off for a week, but I will get you the relevant information as soon as possible.

In the meantime I can 100% confirm that the pictures in question have full copyright given to Mr. Damon Mathew Wise, I took the pictures myself and have a clear memory of it. We have a company policy not to sell jpegs to customers unless they are sold with copyright given to the customer, otherwise we would have people going to the local photocentres and printing our work with would be illegal, therefore we do not sell jpegs if it is for example a family shoot, we only sell jpegs if it is for corporate use. I hope this helps clear things up a little, again I can fully confirm that Damon has fully copyright of said images.

With kind regards


Diane Curran ANGLES PHOTOGRAPHY


113 Henry Street Limerick 061315814 www.angles-studio.ie AspieNo1 (talk) 10:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC) == and more communications between the photographer (original rights holder) and Damon (the one to who the rights were sold with with permissions copied back to me : -

ANGLES PHOTOGRAPHY <ANGLES@iol.ie>

12:11 (5 hours ago)

to me Hi Damon

I'm at a loss as of what to do at this stage. I have spent the morning emailing Cindy, I don't think its that they don't believe that the pictures were taken here, or that I have given you the copyright, she accepts that, it seems they want some license agreement which I don't think I can give, If I do I leave myself open for anyone to use my work.

I'm sorry I could not be of any help to you, I did my best but they are very strict...which is understandable.

Kind regards


Diane Curran ANGLES PHOTOGRAPHY


113 Henry Street Limerick 061315814 www.angles-studio.ie

AND MORE[edit]

Hope this is all you need Inbox x ANGLES PHOTOGRAPHY <angles@iol.ie>

16:28 (1 hour ago)

to me

I hereby affirm that I, Diane Curran, am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of images of Damon Matthew Wise and Karen Christine Wise

I agree to publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported" and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).]

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

Diane Curran Owner of Angles Photographer 29th August 2013

ANGLES PHOTOGRAPHY


113 Henry Street Limerick 061315814 www.angles-studio.ie


Damon Matthew Wise <damon.matthew.wise@gmail.com>

16:48 (55 minutes ago)

to ANGLES Dear Diane,

Thanks - think that may be closer - but doesn't that reverse previous messages - would it not best read with you as original photographer having sold us the work and rights and us as owner, which would confirm both our revious submissions ... one cannot predict how they will responde to anything different ...

Best regards,

Damon. ANGLES PHOTOGRAPHY

16:55 (47 minutes ago)

to me She wouldn't accept that from me earlier, as I took the photo! Copyright laws are quiet strict in that the creator will always retain copyright, even thou I sold you copyright, it was the use of, ie, I still had the copyright of the images but gave you permission to use them. If you read her emails she clearly states to you that you are not the copyright holder, I am.

I would send it as is.

Really no more I can do Damon, have spent so much time on this that I am extremely behind on work, so I must sign off. Best of luck with it and I hope it works out

Regards


Diane Curran ANGLES PHOTOGRAPHY


113 Henry Street Limerick 061315814 www.angles-studio.ie


Damon Matthew Wise <damon.matthew.wise@gmail.com>

17:29 (13 minutes ago)

to ANGLES Dear Diane,

Thanks,

I sent this one - which confirmed right of the original photographer and studios in respect of all photographs.

Best regards,

Damon. ...

To: permissions-commons@wikimedia.org

I hereby affirm that CHOOSE ONE: [I, (Damon Matthew Wise), am as individual] AND [(and as the subject of the pictures, from personal family album taken by my mother and appointed by me also shared an official as Chair of Trustees of Federation Trust, National Secretary of NCPD - the Irish Council for People with Disabilities Limited (and its predecessor organisations, People with Disabilities in Ireland Limited, as Secretary of the Irish Council of People with Disabilities Limited, as PRO and Management committee of the board of the Irish Council for People with Disabilities, the Council for the status of People with Disabilities; as Co-ordinator of the Irish Council for Aspies and Autistic Networking; as an authourised representative given rights of the images for autism disability and charity information by Angels Studies Limerick and the Irish National Library, who hold rights of previously published news media content and images donated to the state by the Irish Independent Newspapers Group, including titles and contents from the Irish Press and Irish Daily Star and Colman Doyle Photographic collection) is] the creator, authourising party and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of such donated content in respect of my image of previously with permission or rights bought works [The contents I have given permission to use in respect of articles in relation to myself, and autism and disability and charity works in relation to me are freely given providing contents show origin, context and quote source] such works include inter alia: 1 and 1a File:Damon Matthew Wise Profile picture.jpg (rights owned by me in personal and official capacity exclusively); 2 and 2a File:Knot Tied In Space Irish Daily Star 5th September 1994 Pat Flanagan, Irish Daly Mail Monday 5th September 1995.jpg (rights shared with National Library of Ireland the news paper and photographers); 3 File tagging File:ICPD Launch 11th March 1999.jpg (rights owned by me in personal and official capacity exclusively and freely given by Press 22 photographers); 4 and 4a File:Damon Matthew Wise shaking hand of President Robinson 11th March 1999.jpg (rights owned by me in personal and official capacity exclusively and freely given by Press 22 photographers); 6 File:Damon Matthew Wise in 1977 outside Twee Toren Hasselt under 7 years old.jpg (personal photograph donated by mother and digitised by me in generations album for me to use online) …

I agree to Open Rights with quoting of context and origin on issues in relation to myself or autism and disability work involving myself. I freely give permission if they contact me and notify me of use and where it will be used in such charity and non-commercial purpose across websites and social network and community resources, in accordance with international copyright law – AspiesNo1 has been authourised on Wikipedia and Wikimedia to use any such contents from my archives, and photographic library (Revised today 26th August 2013).

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a non-commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.

I am aware that the free license only concerns copyright, and I reserve the option to take action against anyone who uses this work in a libelous way, or in violation of personality rights, trademark restrictions, etc.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the work may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

[Damon Matthew Wise – subject of images], [Subject (right-holder, director and appointed representative of my own image both personally and professionally in relation to the images, charities, causes and categories)][18th August 2013 Christian Common Era, 18:35 UST]

AspieNo1 (talk) 16:48, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Use the OTRS system[edit]

The ONLY scheme for releasing pictures to Commons which are the copyright of someone else is the OTRS system. Do not past copies of letters, emails etc here. That will never work.

Please stop posting these items. Please ONLY use the OTRS system to get approval for uploads where someone who is not you owns the copyright. IT is the ONLY way that works. Timtrent (talk) 08:18, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

--- Thanks - Think I have applied for undelete (again?) ... do not seem to know what happens to messages, which they do not post anymore of permissions given. Damon and Diane must have between them posted 30 messages in the last 2 weeks and given between them 60 hours on documenting and proving the pictures - and I get a fraction of those relayed for update by them - just enough to know what was going on - I feel for them and their exhaustion. Nobody seems to appreciate the U.S.A. is a derivation of NOT copyright norm followed by the rest of the world - simple confirmation, proof and declaration by rights-holders ought to be enough. Apples and Oranges, I guess! AspieNo1 (talk) 09:53, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Keep it all very simple. Ignore any differences between USA and the rest of the world. Commons will never change to the way you think it ought to work, It works in the way it works. Never rant, not ever. Above all, use OTRS. People WANT images here, but they want the right licencing. Timtrent (talk) 10:12, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

All pictures are subject to Irish Creative Commons License, with rights and origin attributed. AspieNo1 (talk) 21:05, 30 August 2013 (UTC)