User talk:Axpde/Archive 4

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Naming of the BSicon[edit]

Hi. Please, do you know why the BSicon   (STRrf),   (STRrg),   (STRlf) and   (STRlg) and they derivative icons (light rail, out of order tracks...) are named so ? Isn't it more logical to call them respectively   (STRr),   (STR+l),   (STRl) and   (STR+r) ?

Furthermore, I have seen that all the BSicons that only represent ex or future tracks (  (exSTRrf),   (exSTR) or   (exSTRl)) are called "exROOT". But the page about BS templates on englisk Wikipedia (en:WP:RDT/C) explains that the prefix e represents icons whith ex-element (station, bridge...) and that the x is for ex-tracks. Won't it be logical to rename   (exSTR) to   (xSTR) ?

Syncerely --Pic-Sou (talk) 17:44, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

This topic is due to historic naming. The inventor of BSicons, User:Bernina, seemingly didn't expect that many derivatives of his icons. I realized that the system of "driving direction" (de: Fahrtrichtung) and "reverse direction" (de: Gegenrichtung) will come to it's limits soon, but unfortunaly the {STR|ABZ}{l|r}{f|g} icons were already heavily used. Furthermore I wanted to chop back the uncontrolled rank growth, that's why I never touched those icons. If there'll be time enough no other icons to substitute, I'll take care of those icons ...
"ex" has simply always been the prefix if the complete icon is out of business. That's why it was introduced that way. a×pdeHello! 17:53, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
OK. Could a renaming of these icons be envisaged ? --Pic-Sou (talk) 20:46, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Well, at the moment we're already overwhelmed with work correcting all other icons, guess it wouldn't be wise to start another crusade right now ;-) a×pdeHello! 20:49, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


Hello. Please, delete this file. Thank you in advance. --Butqa (talk) 05:28, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Yet too soon, regular DR lasts one week! a×pdeHello! 01:31, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Warum dieses Bild entfernt werden soll?[edit]

25px Hallo, ist das Bild meiner persönlichen Flagge und der Flagge eines fiktiven Welt. Ich hatte hochgeladen, weil ich es in meiner Wikipedia Benutzerseite zeigen wollte. Spreche ich gut Deutsch? Wenn du, das Bild gelöscht werden soll. Bitte antworten du mir. Grüße. --Michael Peter Fustumum (talk) 15:26, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Das Problem ist: fiktiv ... Bitte lies Commons:Alcance del proyecto & Commons:Normas de borrado! Gracias a×pdeHello! 01:27, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Another bad name[edit]

removed to Talk:BSicon/Renaming/Archive_1#Another_bad_name

names stuff[edit]

You opinion would be appreciated here. Thanks. Useddenim (talk) 23:19, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying! a×pdeHello! 21:43, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

removed to Talk:BSicon/Renaming#names stuff

If you sure, It's ok[edit]

If the only reason for the downgrading of my audience is to be attributed to the difficulty in understanding the proper use of "rename" or "bad name" templates, I think is possibly discuss with other admins. If you are interested you can see the work I'm doing accurately recategorisation of many images of churches, oratories and several other buildings in Italy so I think take away some technical advantage is reflected as an increased workload on the admin. Sorry for use of an on line translator. Regards PS:I hope you do not think you use the template only to expedite my request, would be a misunderstanding.--Threecharlie (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I just had a look at your edit count and I was really impressed. On the other hand I don't understand why you still mix up the templates for speedy deletion and rename! Don't you check the result of your edit? a×pdeHello! 08:55, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
My problem lies in not having yet made a cheat sheet on the template service to handle errors of incorrect appointment of a file. I myself sometimes, as you saw, I make stupid mistakes of assonance (the last was the likeness of Category:Castegnero in Category:Castagnaro) so I am forced to ask for your intervention. Thanks for your patience. :-)--Threecharlie (talk) 09:11, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
So why don't you just list those frequently needed links on you user page? You already began (Little template collection for my empty memory), so you just need to add others ;-) a×pdeHello! 09:15, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Of course you're right, and if I still have not done it so I thought I understood, something that clearly is not. You have the patience to put them yourself on that list so that I remain at your fingertips? No matter if I'm with a description in English, I'll try to make a translation to understand ;-)--Threecharlie (talk) 09:21, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

BSicon ÜST[edit]

I'm nominating some ooold creation of yours at Commons:Deletion requests/BSicon_ÜST. Circeus (talk) 01:09, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean with "ooold"? Will you nominate "STR" next? a×pdeHello! 17:57, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Dubious designs[edit]

I've been working on a full-scale naming scheme for icons, and in the process took not of various minor design inconsistencies. For the time being, I'm listing them here if you want to ahve a look. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Circeus (talk • contribs) , 05:36, 3. Sep. 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying! a×pdeHello! 12:10, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

BSicons: Replacing white masks with dashing[edit]

You may want to check this. --Tuvalkin (talk) 06:53, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for notfying! a×pdeHello! 12:09, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

A question[edit]

I agree with you that Commons isn't really the place for all this POV. I'd like to know how you feel then about the following images regarding the Serbia-Kosovo conflict. Should the following files be deleted as well?

File:Kosovo is Serbia.png
File:Serbia logo.png
File:Serbia stub.svg
File:Kosovo is Independent.PNG
They're all either being used or could be used by Serbians (and Serbia-supporters) who refuse to acknowledge the reality of Kosovo no longer being part of Serbia, except for the last one, which is for the other side. As well, if they should be deleted, then File:Serbia EU (with Kosovo).svg should be deleted as well, and File:Serbia EU (without Kosovo).svg should be renamed to "Serbia EU" (corresponding to all the other EU flag maps). It's your call, but per your decision on the Israel and Palestine maps, I think it's a discussion that should be raised. Fry1989 eh? 02:50, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Actually I'm not familiar with Serbian or Kosovarian flags, but AFAIK Kosovo is an independent state, and no file should show something else. Btw. File:Kosovo AL Flag Map.svg is POV as well, while File:Kosovo US FlagMap.svg and File:Kosovo EU.svg are nonsense! Only File:KosovoFlagMap.svg is rather acceptable, although it looks funny because of the doubled boundary ... ;-)
I'd suggest you make a collection of all those flags/maps that implicate a politcal statement beyond reality and request the mass deletion. I'd be better than deleting each file seperately! a×pdeHello! 12:26, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
With respect to the Kosovo EU map, every European country has a flag map with the EU flag. They're being used to support EU enlargement and membership for all of Europe, so I think it should stay. As for the others, I'll work on a mass deletion soon. Fry1989 eh? 19:30, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Can you please delete this file at Commons:Deletion requests/File:GLBT Serbia.png. The situation must end, and I'm sure you will agree why. Fry1989 eh? 20:08, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


Hey Axpde sorry to bother you....I hope you can point me in the right direction I'm having a problem with an Editor Fry1989 eh? who's edit warring w/ me on a file I've uploaded File:Transnistria Air Force Roundel.svg I'm not sure where to report this kind of activity. Any help would be surly appreciated, a million thanks Jetijones (talk) 05:14, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Please see[edit]

AN/U User:AnonMoos. Fry1989 eh? 21:53, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Please stop[edit]

I can give you plenty of users who blank their pages all the time. Unless you can A: show me a rule where I have to keep messages on my page for any given amount of time, and B: go after other users who blank their pages, then please leave my talk page alone. I am no longer block, having the block notice on my page serves no purpose. Fry1989 eh? 20:34, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Logo ICE[edit]

Ich grüße dich :)
Es geht um das alte ICE-Logo-alt.svg- und neue ICE-Logo.svg-Logo: Ich weiß - ich bin noch neu und weiß noch nicht zu 100% wie der Laden hier läuft. Aber meine Intention war die folgende:
Ich habe das alte Logo absichtlich mit der neuen Version überschrieben, statt ein neues hochzuladen, damit auf allen Seiten, auf denen das Logo eingebunden ist auch automatisch das neue Logo erscheint, ohne es überall manuell ändern zu müssen.
Man könnte argumentieren, dass das alte Logo historischen Wert hat ("so sah es früher aus"), aber keiner der Artikel nimmt auf diesen Aspekt des Logos Bezug. Vielmehr dient es in den meisten Fällen als Anzeiger der aktuellen ICE-Linien, was ein überschreiben, statt Neuerstellung, wie du es jetzt gemacht hast, rechtfertigen würde.
Was meinst du dazu?
LG... --CellarDoor85 17.Sep.2011 - 14:10

Ok, klingt vernünftig, dann verschiebe ich einfach das alte Logo ... hast Du einen Vorschlag für einen sinnvollen Namen? File:ICE-Logo-alt.svg ist spätestens bei der nächsten Schriftartänderung auch nicht mehr eindeutig ... weißt Du zufällig, von wann bis wann das alte Logo verwendet wurde? Gruß a×pdeHello! 19:28, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
So ist's natürlich auch ne Lösung - cool :)
Die Bahn hat übrigens am 1.08.2007 ihren neuen Auftritt implementiert (neue Schriften, Designs, Farben, "Deutsche Bahn" > "Die Bahn".
Greetz... --CellarDoor85 17.Sep.2011 - 22:33

Flags of Germany (during 1933-1945) situation[edit]

As an admin, I'm sure you will agree with the need for accuracy on here, and I also hope you can understand the sensitivity of this subject. There were 3 flags used during the Nazi period, whose use have been somewhat disputed here. Many users have been aware of the distinction between the swastika flag with the centered disk being the Party Flag of the NSDAP, while the offset disk was the national flag and merchant ensign. However, until now, we didn't have much proof, and there were users who disputed what was what. We are now fortunate enough to have several sources, including a copy of one of the official laws by the Nazi party regarding the flags of Germany during that period. The sources are on this page.I believe that since we now have sources, it is time to do a rename of the 3 flags in question, to reflect their true time of use and purpose. Therefore, I am asking you to rename the following files:

These names will reflect each flags actual status and time of use during this period in history. Fry1989 eh? 17:36, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Aside some minor adjustments mentioned above I proceeded your request. Regards a×pdeHello! 21:16, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I thank you. Fry1989 eh? 21:51, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

BSicon delete candidate[edit]

I have removed all in-use files from Category:Icons for railway descriptions/delete candidate. Could you please delete everything in the category as of right now, unless there is some rule I am not aware of? Train2104 (talk) 00:50, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Each file needs to have a valid speedy delete reason such as "duplicate of" (+duplicate file), "incompatible with other BSicon" (e.g. wrong path position), "incompatible with BS-templates" (e.g. wrong file format), etc. Regards a×pdeHello! 20:39, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Flags of Serbia[edit]

Can you please also do this rename for me, on File:Serbia stub.svg. I've got users who are obstructing this for their own political views regarding the Serbia and Kosovo situation. Their objections to us reflecting reality is noted, but not productive. I would also suggest protecting the file afterwards, because no doubt there will be several Pro-Serbia users trying to name it back, to continue the Serbian claim of Kosovo as theirs. Fry1989 eh? 18:47, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

The file name File:Serbia stub.svg was non-descriptive, but the suggested file name is provocative as well! I second the idea of User:WhiteWriter and renamed all files in his manner. a×pdeHello! 20:14, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Kosovo is not an independent state until they become full UN member! And that is de facto reality. And it's wrong that some wikipedia users promote own political views on this way. Or if is that OK, then we need new country maps for Georgia, Azerbaijan, Cyprus etc. After Kosovo become full UN member than OK, but until than actions like this one are pure politicking.--Nikola-PMF83 (talk) 22:41, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Some famous quotes:

Please have a look at Category talk:Flag maps of Serbia! Regards a×pdeHello! 05:45, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

vuxSTRr-xKRZo vs exvuSTRr-KRZo[edit]

I changed   (exvuSTRr-KRZo) to   (vuxSTRr-xKRZo), however this was not such a good move. I can't change the name back however since Commons considers that a file with the old proper name is already existing. Any solutions? Wiebevl (talk) 11:30, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

It's fixed :-) Wiebevl (talk) 16:10, 26 September 2011 (UTC)


I left a request of requests for permissions. I would like the file mover tool becuase I will rename planes using the template. I can be trustful with the flag. I have more experience in the file namespace. Thanks --Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 00:12, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Parallel rail proposal[edit]

I've been working on a new, all-encompassing BSicon naming scheme, and I'd appreciate some thought on a preliminary version of the naming scheme for parallel lines. The goal here is to narrow as much as possible the use of "combo" names and eliminate the dash as a prefix/suffix. Circeus (talk) 16:20, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Parallel icons haven't been introduced to German wikipedia, thus I never thought about them. All I have to say is, they should always have a "v"-prefix in order to identify them easily. a×pdeHello! 19:36, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Renaming a BSicon[edit]

Hello! I wanted to rename   (hRP2a) to   (hRP2oa) (one of several renamings, some done, some to do, after discussion here). So I marked   (hRP2a) with {{rename}} and created a new file page for   (hRP2oa), with a redirect to   (hRP2a). Then I replaced "hRP2a" with "hRP2oa" in 9 articles of 3 projects. Isn’t this the simplest way to do it? Now the new redirect was tagged for deletion: File:BSicon hRP2oa.svg, and I’m afraid those 9 articles will break. Can you have a look? --Tuvalkin (talk) 04:50, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Seems as if the old file has been renamed meanwhile. I usually move the file first. If there are to many occurances, I keep the redirect, put it in Category:Icons for railway descriptions/obsolete redirect and start replacing. If there are only a few of them like your example about I suppress the redirect and fix all occurances after moving. During those minutes the file link is broken, but only some minutes ... Regards a×pdeHello! 19:05, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


Hi Axpde. Can I ask you if now it could me granted the rollback flag? It would be useful for me. See in any case my global activity, and tell me clearly if I still cannot receive the flag. Thanks, --Frigotoni ...i'm here; 12:50, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what other admins think, but IMHO 40 edits are to few edits by far for granting local rollbacker flag. But since you already joined SWMT, maybe you'd like to request global rollback? Regards a×pdeHello! 18:59, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
No, I've already asked it but they didn't grant me the tool. Anyway, thank you for your answer, and I can only tell you that I'll find to do more edits. --Frigotoni ...i'm here; 11:47, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

German help[edit]

Hi Axpde/Archive 4,

I have a problem with a file rename request, and the explanation is in German (Is about some german locator map). Since I know nothing about your language (my fault, I admit :) ) I come here to ask for your help. Can you please read the history of the probelm in my talk page and help him here. Thanks in advance! Béria Lima msg 11:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

PS: I send that same message to Saibo and ABF too :)

Thanks for notifying, Saibo has already jumped in :) a×pdeHello! 20:29, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

* cross mediatype redirect[edit]

Hallo Axpde, you have added "* cross mediatype redirect" to MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown. Can you tell me what this should mean? A redir from File:Foobar.jpg to File:Foobar.png? That works and I see not why this needs to be a default reason. Can you tell me? :) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:06, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I added this for redirects of svg to png and vice versa. If you expect to find a svg (which one can easily edit) but get a graphics file ... Those redirects may work, on the other hand they aren't really necessary and but to the highest degree deceptive. a×pdeHello! 13:26, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Sure, I agree that it is not nice to use them for a long time in articles - but I see no special reason why they should be deleted on a regular basis. And this suggests (at least a bit) the listing in the dropdown, doesn't it? I agree that that it is not useful to create such redirs without a need - but if a file is "moved" from jpg to png (to enable lossless editing, smaller file size, ...) there should be a redir from the old jpeg name to the new png. Can you give me an example where you need this deletion reson? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 18:02, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Kosovo at Blank map europe.svg[edit]

Please, see Administrators noticeboard --WhiteWriter speaks 16:25, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

  (vSTRe) vs.    (vSPLe)[edit]

Any thoughts on the subject? See Talk:BSicon/Renaming#Proposed new SPL root. Useddenim (talk) 12:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

"Promotion" of Wvk[edit]

Hi Axpde. Please don't "promote" users to admin and archive the requests as you did with Wvk here. Crats are supposed to do this and he didn't even received the bit! Trijnstel (talk) 23:40, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I only noted the fact, that he has 100% support. I think that's obvious enough ;-) a×pdeHello! 01:13, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
You are not a crat here as far as I know and it stays open until a crat closes it - thanks --Herby talk thyme 07:59, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, it was only meant to help the crats. At the moment theres only one (and a half) active crat, so I wanted to help Eugene. Sorry! a×pdeHello! 09:18, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Hello Axpde

In my RfA, you say that I'm a bit too jumpy. I don't understand about this. I think you are saying that it's a bit early from my previous RfA. Yes, it is but I have gained over 4000 edits by now and I have fixed the problem that other users mentioned.--Morning Sunshine (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

I needed about 15 mins to understand who you are and your history on wmf projects. Within less than one year you changed your username two times, stopped editing, came back, and so on. That's what I call "jumpy"! Regards a×pdeHello! 09:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I get it. I promise that this will be my account from now on. Moreover, I don't use sockpuppets and I think I can trust here--Morning Sunshine (talk) 09:15, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok, but to convince me, you'll need a bit more time ... a×pdeHello! 09:16, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Deleting n-th century categories before they are copied ?[edit]

Thank you anyway for the help. --Foroa (talk) 13:38, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

They are empty! a×pdeHello! 13:40, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
very often not and need their definition copied anyway (limit of delinker display: don't trust it when you see 0 moved, + O to copy - max nr of complex objects)). --Foroa (talk) 13:53, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Are you sure?!? "0 to go" is sounds to me as if this cat is done! a×pdeHello! 13:54, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
P.S.: Maybe it's not the best idea to do thousands of requests at the same time! a×pdeHello! 13:56, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Whatever the validity of your last remark may be, it is irrelevant in this discussion and it does not take away anything from the fact that I've just restored well over 100 incorrectly deleted categories *with contents* that you have failed to restore yourself. That unbecoming of someone in your role. --Siebrand 15:38, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Obviously I wasn't able to find out which cat's shouldn't have been deleted, whenever I thought I found some you were faster ... :(
How did you do that? a×pdeHello! 15:41, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Pairs of red links (old and new) make sirenes go off... This area of Commons (recategorisation) is highly specialised and caution should be taken when entering it... --Siebrand 15:45, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Yep, I just noticed some and restored them. Unfortunaly some people already knew about the "0 to go"-bug but failed to tell others before the made wrong deletes :( a×pdeHello! 15:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Please see Commons:VP#Century categories. Note that when used as a noun it should be "10th century", when used as an adjective "10th-century". As examples, it should be Category:18th century by country not Category:18th-century by country; Category:18th-century writers not Category:18th century writers.--Nilfanion (talk) 10:54, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm the wrong addressee, I just worked on the scheduled requests by Foroa! a×pdeHello! 14:45, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Fair enough - just letting you know as you have some involvement (if only hitting the delete button).--Nilfanion (talk) 16:05, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, I thought it was ok, but actually I didn't check all those thousand requests ;-) a×pdeHello! 16:10, 7 January 2012 (UTC)


Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Dear_administrators relates to a block you made. Rd232 (talk) 02:19, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I've lifted this block following Takabeg's confirmation that they are different, but I will add the user to my watchlist given the only contributions so far are nationalistic voting. --99of9 (talk) 03:27, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, this is a topic on which four eyes are better than two ;-) a×pdeHello! 17:51, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Restore flag[edit]

Hi, Can you restore this flag I'm actually returning on Wikimedia Commons. Kindly regards. --Katarighe (talk) 17:57, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, Herby seems to have objections ("given they have retired and the tone it was done in not sure that is appropriate now?"). I'd suggest to request it again at Commons:Requests for rights‎. a×pdeHello! 18:12, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for the help! --Katarighe (talk) 18:28, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Fred the Oyster[edit]

Hi Axpde; Regarding the Rollback rights request for Fred the Oyster,[1], because of two very recent blocks (one reversed),[2], I wonder if it may have been appropriate to allow a little more time for comment? Best wishes, --Walter Siegmund (talk) 18:27, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, good point. To be honest, I just followed Zoofari (see difflink). Maybe we should have an eye on him ... a×pdeHello! 23:05, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Commenting because I'm still watching your talk page from a recent post... Personally, I don't think the issues which related to the block suggest any danger of misuse of rollback. There's never any harm in keeping an eye on use of newly-assigned user rights though. Rd232 (talk) 04:12, 15 January 2012 (UTC)


Hallo Axpde!
Ich hab den Interwikilink in der Category:Tiger and Turtle – Magic Mountain wieder eingesetzt. Ein Verbot dieses Links aufgrund von Fließtextangaben ist mir nicht bekannt, ich lass mich aber gerne vom Gegenteil überzeugen wenn du mir zeigst wo es steht. In den Kategorien, die ich normalerweise besuche/benutze ist es durchgehend üblich den Interwikilink einzutragen obwohl der Link schon im Fließtext steht, ich selbst halte das auch für sehr sinnvoll. Ein Beispiel? Schau mal auf Category:Zollverein Coal Mine industrial complex. Dort gibt es einen deutschen und englischen Hinweis im Fließtext aber insgesamt 9 Interwikilinks. Wenn man den deutschen aus den Interwikilinks entfernen würde - wie soll dann ein Leser auf einen Blick erkennen das der schon oben steht? Einem deutschsprachigen mag das noch gelingen, den anderssprachigen wohl eher nicht. Eine zentrale Stelle mit allen vorhandenen Interwikis ist IMHO das einzig Sinnvolle. Der Fließtext ist eine Ergänzung, er stellt den Interwikilink dazu oft in einen zusätzlichen Kontext. Redundanz ist hier nicht unsinnig sondern liefert Sicherheit bei der Navigation. LG --Nati aus Sythen (talk) 16:01, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

The Administrator's barnstar[edit]

Police Barnstar Hires.png The Administrator's barnstar
I hereby award Axpde this barnstar for high activity as Administrator on Commons in 2011. Very good work! -- George Chernilevsky talk 20:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

File mover right[edit]

Considering I have two supports and have been able to address what is so far the only concern raised, can you please grant me my requested right at Requests for Rights? I shouldn't have to wait over 3 weeks for a decision, it's clear that the usual granting admins are avoiding my request. Fry1989 eh? 20:56, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, noone like to get his fingers burned ... a×pdeHello! 20:14, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Renamer right[edit]

Hi! You posted that I needed more edits. How many is normally sufficient? NikNaks talk - gallery - wikipedia 19:12, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, IMHO you should have at least 1500~2000 edits, but that's my personal view. a×pdeHello! 20:12, 13 February 2012 (UTC)


Hi Axpde. No issues, just want to know what's wrong with this? We already have more similar shortcuts further up, and these are some of the longest entries stretching the dropdown's width unnecessarily... Just curious. Rehman 06:07, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

File:BSicon umKRZuxswq.svg[edit]

Help! I was trying to rename this file to File:BSicon uxmKRZqusw.svg, but somehow managed to totally botch it. Could you fix the move? (and I'll take care to the redirects). Thank you. Useddenim (talk) 04:28, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

  • ✓ Done - what a filename. -mattbuck (Talk) 04:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
It parses as
u x m KRZ q u sw
light rail
(a/k/a canal)
out of use
mixed crossing rotated under swing bridge
Thanks for the help! Useddenim (talk) 11:31, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
I did comment somewhere when I uploaded it that I wasn't sure if that was the correct name. You might also like to consider the names of two other uploads of mine which are also swing bridges carrying railway over canal: File:BSicon umKRZuxsw.svg; File:BSicon umKRZuswq.svg. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:40, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
There's only two features, so the standard e/x prefixes work for this icon. And the q suffix generally seems to follow immediately after the KRZ root. Useddenim (talk) 11:31, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
I see that somebody copied File:BSicon umKRZuswq.svg to File:BSicon umKRZqusw.svg and then somebody else slapped a {{duplicate|BSicon umKRZuswq.svg}} on the former. If   (umKRZuswq) is the incorrect name, and   (umKRZqusw) is correct, please could one of the admins watching this page rename it properly, not by a cut and paste hack, for reasons of attribution. I can't do it myself, because I don't have the filemover right. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:09, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

At first glance:

  • q should only be used with track running across
  • sw – we never had two-letter-suffixes and we shouldn't start introducing those!
  • The design is completely different to other icons so we should find a unique ID for those!

a×pdeHello! 11:10, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Then we're back to   (DBK) (En: swing bridge / De: Drehbrücke),   (mDBK) etc., which was originally proposed at Talk:BSicon/Renaming#Icon name query, dating from July–September 2011. We should also consider what to use for a lift bridge (De: Hubbrücke), as the canal icon   (uLIFT) isn't suitable. Useddenim (talk) 12:43, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
How about this:   (HBKq)? Useddenim (talk) 14:00, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Nice design ... but maybe a little bit to complicated to be presented at 20x20px ...? a×pdeHello! 11:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
And doesn't rotate well, either. 12:50, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

File:BSicon uABZ+r.svg ‎(un-needed redirect)[edit]

Not according to Global usage for "File:BSicon uABZ+4.svg"!   Look before you delete!   Useddenim (talk) 03:29, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

File:BSicon uABZ+r.svg is not the same as File:BSicon uABZ+4.svg!
You should rather have a look at Special:GlobalUsage/BSicon_uABZ+r.svg! a×pdeHello! 11:43, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, forgot to purge the cache… Just need to do a s**t-load of clean-ups. Useddenim (talk) 12:49, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Welcome to my world ;-) a×pdeHello! 12:53, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
I just noticed this discussion... Files can also be used outside wiki and you will not notice on global usage. There you need to search on for example Google. --MGA73 (talk) 19:33, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
BSicons are icons, no "pictures" you would expect to find via google! And you can only use them for one purpose ... a×pdeHello! 20:56, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

User talk[edit]

Hi, Axpde! Needed for some help. Block has been lifted, but page user talk the protection still. If possible, please help. Sincerely: --Şahzadə (talk) 04:29, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

User talk page unprotected and set to initial version. About the claim on your user page, I think this is what you wanted to express, right? Regards a×pdeHello! 12:08, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. :-) --Şahzadə (talk) 12:34, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


Wanna explain what just hapened here? -- Tuválkin 16:25, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I exchanged this icon by overlayed standard icons, because their names have changed and "ÜABZlr+G2qu" isn't recognizable anymore. There was a consense to use overlay instead of creating specialized icons, esp. if there are too many variations possible ... Regards a×pdeHello! 17:08, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Look, you’re a Commons editor as there’s nothing I can do to go against your will. I’m having similar problems in pt:wp and really annoyed at this and willing to focus on personal (or personally managed) projects instead. Collaborative endeavours should be about people working together for some commonly agreed-on goal, and disagreeing over details, not this constant mess. I have had problems in the past with you (concerning   (eGRENZE),   (vSTR2-), and maybe a few others) and I don’t have the impression that you want to be fair or reasonable when challenged. So, do what you will, but don’t count on me any more — unless you want to collaborate (="work together") for real.
In this case I, as a simple editor, felt the need for a specific icon, based on assessment of the local situation; as a simple editor, building on the system of image and naming conventions created by Bernina and developed by you and a few others (me included, if I may say so), I created and named the needed icon. This is as it should be: The system allows and enables simple editors to add to the BS icon library for common use.
You coming over and arbitrarily changing one single icon with an ungainly stacking of three icons (that look the same only because wp:pt BS-templates happens to be updated to accept multiple overlays (thanks to me, by the way) and because this diagram uses the default background color   (MASKq)), without even discussing it in the talk page, comes across as discretionary and insensitive to the local situation. Do you want to look like that to other people? Do you want to discourage other people from adding to the BS-icon library? Is that the way of Wikipedia?
You say this icon (looking like BSicon ABZ23.svgBSicon hRP2q.svg , but with gaps) is «specialized» (meaning it is unlikely to be needed for wider use), and that is cause — not only not to create it, but even to delete it after it was created and in use for months. And you do that the same week you upload the icon family of   (ebvWSL-BS2+l) — a group of highly experimental icons, obviously renderable with existing halves and some overlays, and hard to use because of their double with. Note that I have no problem with those icons, I like them, but you cannot say with a straight face they are worthy for the project while   (ÜABZlr+G2qu) was not.
Your argument that the name   (ÜABZlr+G2qu) «isn’t recognizable anymore» is disingenious and unfit even for unused icons, let alone for one in use. If the name is not good, rename the icon. I used that name because that was what was in use at the time. I fully agree that   (ABZ23) is a much better name that the one(s) used before, but then why didn’t you just tagged   (ÜABZlr+G2qu) to be renamed   (ABZ23+G2qu) (as per Circeus’ suggestion about a similar icon) or something like that?
-- Tuválkin 19:30, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Btw. is the RP2 correct? Both sides continue as RP1 ...? a×pdeHello! 17:09, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, as you can see in this aerial view: It is a wide bridge, with two lanes (or at least as wide as two lanes) bridging what seems to be a really wide dirt track. (So, sides do continue as RD1, actually, although RD2, if it existed, would be a better choice.) Maybe this satellite pass catched a road under construction and a more recent one will show   (RP2q) on both sides, in wich case it will be dully changed in the diagram as labelled with its Spanish road number. Thanks for your care. -- Tuválkin 19:30, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


Not meaning to be pestering, but I'm still a little confused about that - how is editcount a meaningful figure of experience, especially here? Nevermind that I could probably categorise a few hundred cat images without learning diddly squat about the rest of Commons, from what I understand folks usually come here from other projects, often their native-tongue wikipedias, so even if they are experienced in general that doesn't mean they'll have many edits here if and when they have develope an interest in this specific project. Or is this why some people explicitly state 'I have X rights on meta and X rights on enwsource etc', to make that clear? That always struck me as a little silly, since usually the user info templates link directly to things that list that information anyway, but if people don't always check the global information, it would explain a bit. Isarra (talk) 22:48, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

That's why there's no exact limit. I usually check the user contributions, too ...
And policies are different, we need to make sure, that the user knows about that fact. a×pdeHello! 09:16, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
I see. Thank you for your patience with my questions in this matter. Isarra (talk) 11:59, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


Hello again. Can you please make sure   (KRZSTRlg) is deleted, this time? Already two of your esteemed collegues caught with my deletion proposals, couldn’t make heads or tails of what it is all about, and decided to keep it. (Yeah, BSicons are not as straighforward as CosplayCon Backstage CopyVios and other simple stuff deletion requests usually deal with.) -- Tuválkin 16:42, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, it's quite a mess to explain to others ... if you put those icons in Category:Icons for railway descriptions/delete candidate I'll take care of those ;-) a×pdeHello! 22:34, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
I’ll do that in future occasions. Thanks for the tip. -- Tuválkin 10:16, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Action request[edit]

Recently I was concerning about a protected file:China administrative.svg‎. The revert war sparked when an Indian user:Kondicherry started uploading his version that indicates the Chinese terrirtories that claimed by the Indian Government. When this is not agreed by the Chinese users and reverted, he uploaded another version that completely removed all the disputed areas from the map. Needless to say this just prolonged the revert war. When this caught the admin user:Denniss' attention, he protected the file and revert it to Kondicherry's version that omits all disputed areas.

Now I'm not content with Denniss' decision because the map is meant to be used in the Wikipedia article that describes Chinese internal administrative division, not international territorial dispute, thus it's meant to not include the areas claimed by India. Denniss suggested to fork another file, which I've complied (File:China administrative claimed included.svg) but still not happy with the current status. The original file is not incorrectly named, it's more appropriate to fork Kondicherry's versions under different file names.

I ask you now because Denniss is apparently evading my inquiry in his talk page while still actively editing Commons. If you agree with me, please revert the map to the version with grey areas. Denniss is also a German that you may speak with him in German, but I doubt he would reply you either. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 14:54, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

#sigh# ... whenever I tried to negotiate between political parties (Israel vs. Syria, Montenegro vs. Serbia) I got into trouble ...
Well, objectively speaking, if we want a map of the current and internationlly accepted borders, File:China administrative.svg is ok. If we want a map showing disputed territories, File:China administrative claimed included.svg is not ok, because the Indian claimed territory in the far west is omitted!
I think we should clearify what kind of map we want in first instance before unprotecting the file. And we need to find a central talk page for this, not my user talk ;-) ... a×pdeHello! 09:59, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
You know it's pointless to discuss if a map with border dispute neutral or not because of this Commons:Project scope/Neutral point of view. I just think Denniss' action has encouraged endless overwriting of another user's file and forced the original version to fork when it doesn't violate any policy or guideline of Commons. If you really demand a Chinese (PRC) map with border dispute absolutely neutral, the whole area of the China Mainland will be covered by ROC (Taiwan)'s claim. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 01:02, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Hmmm, I thought there were movements to end the RC-claims of PRC-territory ... anyways.
I have to admit that I'm a supporter of independence efforts, especially when detaching off a totalitarian regime, but that's my personal opinion.
We should find a central place to come to a solution both sides can live with! a×pdeHello! 13:12, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
If you wanna support independence from invader regime, en:Taiwanese aborigines would be a more appropriate target than RoC, imho. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 03:45, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Oh thanks, important point! I don't like suppressing the indigenous people of a country either. That's why I don't like the way the PRC treating the Tibetians or the USA dealing with the Native Americans. Kanada and Australia are on a good way I think. Can't judge about Russia or Brasilia ...
Let's put in a nutshell: Every human beeing shall be entitled to do whatever he wants to do, as long as he doesn't curtail oneone's rights!
I guess both RC and PRC have to learn that ... Regards a×pdeHello! 11:39, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

BSicon BUEa.svg[edit]

Sorry for the delay. I need a sign indicating a level crossing between the lines cross. --Andres Rojas (talk) 16:54, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


Get well soon! -- Tuválkin 15:14, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Sick of Wikipedia, are you? Useddenim (talk) 23:33, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

See you here again, hoping soon ! --Maxima m (talk) 23:32, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

A card[edit]

Beterschap.jpg My wish for you
Do I have to say more? :) Hope to see you soon again. Trijnsteltalk 19:08, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
+1! --Vituzzu (talk) 19:17, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Help: no-FoP Italy[edit]

Hi. When you have a moment, could you do me a favor. I decided to occupy my time to list the no-FoP files in Italy. It has been a long and difficult work that needs to be reviewed by administrators. Please, could you check if everything is correct on User:Raoli/Deletion requests/FoP Italy? Thanks! Raoli ✉ (talk) 23:19, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, I guess concerning this topic I'm not the right addressee. I'm not familiar with Italian FoP. Sorry! a×pdeHello! 19:14, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Don't worry, I've added the whole discussion in the Administrators' noticeboard. Raoli ✉ (talk) 21:22, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


How do u make URL .SVGs γ=2πrt2 05:36, 5 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 京市 (talk • contribs)

SVG is xml, just look at the source code to get an idea of it! a×pdeHello! 10:20, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Please stop vandalizing my work[edit]

This. Can you understand a plead for an experimental naming to be used? Or do you plan to keep on bullying every other editor interested in BSicon naming? -- Tuválkin 11:35, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Why do you call it "vandalizing" or even "bullying" if I try to keep the BSicons consistently named? And why don't you tell us your brand new ideas first before creating inconsistently named icons? a×pdeHello! 12:06, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
I will reply in the thread — sooner or later… -- Tuválkin 18:31, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

File:Flag of the Republic of Croatia in 1990.svg[edit]

I see that you deleted File:Flag of the Republic of Croatia in 1990.svg. By doing that, you have damaged several articles on Croatian Wikipedia. I know that you think the deleted file was a duplicate of File:Flag of Croatia (1990).svg but it wasn't. The file you deleted had the first white square on the Coat of arms while the remaining file has the first red square. Therefore, to repair the damage you made, I must ask you to restore the deleted file.--Starčevićanac (talk) 11:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok, it is no exact duplicate, but maybe you can tell me, which flag is the correct flag? a×pdeHello! 12:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
The first Constitution of Croatia (before the current flag was designed) never specified which coat of arms is the correct one. However, the version with the first white square was used when the Croatian Parliament rejected the communist single-party system and adopted a liberal-democratic Constitution.--Starčevićanac (talk) 13:12, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Ah, ok, thanks for your explanation! a×pdeHello! 09:16, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Still being a vandal and a troll, I see, Axpde. You could not be arsed to ask in the file’s talk page or in the uploaders’ why is there two different flags, and you surely could not be arsed to check the respective file uses. You have fast buttons, and you gonna use them. But fast buttons cannot compensate for a lazy mind, you know? -- Tuválkin 11:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm neither a vandal nor a troll, I'm doing my job as admin. And you should immediately stop to affront me with your vulgar tongue! Maybe you need a break to think about your vocabulary? a×pdeHello! 12:19, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
You job as admin would be to carefully analize the situation instead of deleting a file on a whim. Your thinly veiled threat that I «should take a break» implies that, on top of being a vandal and a troll, you are also a bully. -- Tuválkin 18:30, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
No threat, just a hint. You will never encounter me blocking you cause in this case I'm personally involved. But you're so blindfolded by your flight of fancy that you can't judge who's the bully.
By the way, why are you so keen on renaming my icons ... furthermore to a wrong name, you always omit the "g"! a×pdeHello! 09:26, 16 February 2013 (UTC)


Hi Axpde. Magst du diese Seite aus Category:Template:De with no text displayed befreien? Die Sprachvorlagen dürfen nicht parameterlos sein. --Leyo 08:02, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

So wie es aussieht werden die Vorlagen de, en, usw. dazu missbraucht, Überschriften zu generieren. Mal sehen ... a×pdeHello! 14:48, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Genau. Siehe dazu auch COM:FORUM#Template:De: Fehlerliste. --Leyo 14:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Hab's rausgenommen, die anderen Sprachen auch gleich (en, es, fr, ...) Gruß a×pdeHello! 15:05, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Danke! BSicon/Canal ist übrigens die letzte Gallery-Seite in Category:Template:De with no text displayed. --Leyo 12:07, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Löschung von Duplikaten ohne Ersetzen führt zur Entfernung durch den CommonsDelinker[edit]

Offenbar sollte man diesen Bug mal melden. Von dieser Seite ist bald nichts mehr übrig und Special:AbuseLog/57 wächst immer weiter. Ich weiß, dass der Delinker sich weigert BSIcons in seine Queue aufzunehmen, aber dann sollte er wenigstens eine Schnittstelle besitzen, um die Entfernungen zu blockieren. -- Rillke(q?) 08:36, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm, was meinst Du mit "ohne Ersetzen"? Es wurde doch ein Ersatz angegeben, außerdem habe ich eine Weiterleitung angelegt ...
Die Seite Commons:Icons for railway descriptions/Overview ist es keine sinnvolle Galerie, dafür steht da alles kreuz und quer durcheinander.
Das mit dem Special:AbuseLog/57 verstehe ich nicht, inwiefern missbraucht der CommonsDelinker denn irgendwas?!? Gruß a×pdeHello! 21:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Du hast einen Ersatz in der Löschbegründung angegeben, aber der Delinker hat die Dateien entfernt und nicht ersetzt. Dass es Deiner Ansicht nach keine sinnvolle Seite ist, die da immer weiter schrumpft, mag sein. Trotzdem sollten Duplikate nicht entfernt sondern ersetzt werden. Wenn es dennoch passiert, gibt es einen Eintrag durch Special:AbuseFilter/57 -- Rillke(q?) 21:48, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Ah, ok, jetzt hab's ich auch begriffen. Vielleicht liegt das Verhalten daran, dass ich keine Verschiebung durchgeführt habe, sondern ich habe das Duplikat gelöscht und eine Weiterleitung angelegt, ohne dem Delinker irgendwas zu befehlen. Der ist wohl ganz von allein tätig geworden und hat dabei nicht verstanden, was es hätte machen sollen ... ist halt auch nur eine Maschine ;-) a×pdeHello! 21:56, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


moved to Talk:BSicon#TUNNELql

As a note, these cannot be replaced by CommonsDelinker due to the means that they are generally added to articles by partial use. They need to be changed manually wherever they are used.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:41, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

<ironic>Really?!?</ironic> a×pdeHello! 13:44, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

BIF2av (ABZglr)[edit]

Not very good. All fr.wp pages still using this one had their diagrams disrupted. YLSS (talk) 14:45, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Strange. I always check global usage several times before deleting, but somehow global usage seems to suck lately :( a×pdeHello! 15:17, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

One more case:   (extÜWol),   (extÜWo+l),   (extÜWor) (weird history, but it seems these were redirects that got deleted after you deleted   (texÜWol) etc.; the former were still in use Meanwhile I've updated these [3][4]). Axpde, you should really be more careful. YLSS (talk) 20:50, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Commons:WikiProject BSicon‎[edit]

You are invited to join Commons:WikiProject BSicon‎. Useddenim (talk) 16:59, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Commons:Requests for comment[edit]

Commons-emblem-issue.svg Commons:Requests for comment has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this project page, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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Invitation to discussion[edit]

Please join the discussion in Talk:BSicon/Icon geometry and SVG code neatness#DST and INT are not distinguishable which I'm proposing the change the design of DST or INT due to geometric similarity of the two and the concern of accessibility for visually impaired reader. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 14:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I already saw your invitation on de-wiki (I felt so free to improve yourgoogles translation, I hope you don't mind). a×pdeHello! 18:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)


Hallo Axpde, ich habe per [5] mal die 4 dort genannten Dateien entsperrt, da die Vollsperre schon gut 3 Jahre alt war — in der Hoffnung dass sich der Vandalismus nicht fortsetzt. --Túrelio (talk) 15:30, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Ja, geht schon in Ordnung, ich weiß selber nicht mehr, was der konkrete Anlass war :-/ Gruß a×pdeHello! 20:43, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


Hi Axpde. Im Quelltext hat es widersprüchliche Angaben. Kannst du diese kontrollieren und korrigieren? --Leyo 21:21, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

So in der Art? Gruß a×pdeHello! 20:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
Schaut gut aus, danke. --Leyo 20:46, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker FYI[edit]

Quoth CommonsDelinker page, To avoid World War III, CommonsDelinker will ignore a command to replace an image if the new image is svg and the original is not. --Pitke (talk) 11:43, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


Hello Axpde. Will you be kind enough to drop by File talk:BSicon exENDEl.svg? :) --Søren1997 (talk // contributions) 19:52, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done a×pdeHello! 12:43, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Editor @[edit]

Hello. I would like to inform you that I have granted you editor flag at the Arabic Wikipedia, all your edits there will be automatically marked as patrolled. Best regards.--Avocato (talk) 13:52, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! a×pdeHello! 16:40, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Commons:Icons for railway descriptions/Policies[edit]

User (talk · contribs) has been poking at this. Even though much of his editing has been deletion of commented-out German text, I’m not sure that’s constructive. Personally, I think the page should either be deleted completely or merged into the existing set of talk pages and Commons:WikiProject BSicon. Your thoughts? Useddenim (talk) 13:25, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

BSicon deletions[edit]

Hello Axpde! Not so long ago you deleted some of the redirects listed at Talk:BSicon/Obsolete and deletions; would it be possible for you to check that page from time to time and delete the accumulated redirects/files? I have asked Taivo once to delete them, but I don't think it would be proper to plague some particular admin with this task unless he is involved with BSicon business... Sorry for bothering! YLSS (talk) 19:59, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi, I noticed you have set up User:MiszaBot to archive your talk page. Unfortunately, the bot has stopped working, and given how its operator is inactive, it is unclear when/if this will fixed. For the time being, I have volunteered to operate a MiszaBot clone (running the exact same code). With that said, your input would be appreciated at Commons:Bots/Requests/ArchiveBot 1. Regards, FASTILY 07:41, 20 April 2014 (UTC)


Any logs from de.wp? I suggest that you use {{Original upload date}} & {{Original uploader}} then. YLSS (talk) 09:20, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Just have a look into the svg file uploaded by AlisonW and you'll find:
  1. sodipodi:docbase="F:\home\eisenbahn&co\Streckenzeichen\normale Symbole"
    which is the file path on my computer – you might've noticed it's German!
  2. sodipodi:docname="BSicon_ÃœWo+l.svg"
    which is the original file name "ÜWo+l" – again, it's German!
No further proof needed! a×pdeHello! 09:25, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
No, no, I'm not asking for proof, I believed you without that ;) Just some proper tags and logs. YLSS (talk) 09:32, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, can't access the original upload date in dewiki ... :-( a×pdeHello! 09:47, 31 October 2014 (UTC)