User talk:Beyond My Ken

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File:Something to Sing About Cagney.jpg

I think we should replace this with a self created screenshot from the pd movie without the ugly corbis letters, the watermark is inappropriate in Wikipedia I think. Also on a self created screenshot no one can claim some strange copyright maybe do tue image modificatin or restauration or whatsever, see the image description on corbis. I started to download the movie. --Martin H. (talk) 08:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:/ the quality of the movie is much to bad, even with all efforts its not possible to come to a same quality level. Also I cant find that frame in the beginning scene, it must be from a different version of the movie, created outside the movie or computer generated (or from a later scene of course). --Martin H. (talk) 09:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

So I think you're saying that this is probably a publicity still and not a screenshot -- in which case I should upload it on en.wikipedia under fair use and it should be deleted here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:49, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

On second thought, the watermark (which I didn't notice when uploading it) makes the image inappropriate for en.wikipedia, so I'm replacing it with a screen grab, albeit not of the same quality of the publicity picture. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

In this close up quite ok. Also File:Something to Sing About Cagney Daw.jpg, good moment, tried to capture that scene too :) --Martin H. (talk) 08:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Unfortunately the copy at Internet Archive is very dark, so many shots were next to impossible to clean up sufficiently to use. At this point, I have no plan to upload any more. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:01, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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File:South American plates.png

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(Not answering the bot, just in case anyone's reading this.) Yes, it looks like I forgot to transfer the PD tag from the original, but other folks have chimed in to do that - my thanks to them. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't you use CommonsHelper to import files from other projects? --Eusebius (talk) 08:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

It's not from another project, it's an adaptation of a Commons file. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

File:Gramercy Park interior W gate.jpg

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Fixed, added license. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:12, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

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shizhao (talk) 04:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

The image is derived from File:Streetfight_Stralingrad01.jpg, and I have copied over the license information from that image. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:24, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

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--Rockfang (talk) 08:46, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Kept. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

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License changed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

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My mistake; fixed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:00, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Sohmer Piano Building Flatiron District.jpg

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Fixed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Locations

Excellent. You nudged some of my locations up the block or across the street, and replaced one where I plain misidentified the target and thus the viewpoint. I like my edit comment to say something like "adjust location" for the former case and "replace location" for the latter. Anyway now when I see a particularly good and informative picture. . . . Sigh, why is it so often a photographer who used a much older and less capable camera than mine? Because good pictures are not about the power of the hardware inside the box; they're about the power of the mind behind it. Sigh. . . . Anyway now when it's your pic I'll have the comfort of knowing someone is checking up on my geotags. Maybe soon you'll be a participating in Commons talk:Geocoding and tagging other peoples' pictures when you find particularly useful ones in the course of your category sorting. Summertime, however is bicycling season so tomorrow's a shutterbug day, not much a darkroom day. Have fun! Jim.henderson (talk) 22:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Your geotag on my "Bellevue Hospital old building" image was very helpful, because when I went to correct it, I realized that the photo was actually of a different building than I thought it was, so I hopped on my bike and rode up there to take a look, and determined that it was actually the old Psychiatric Hospital building, now being used as a homeless shelter. I probably wouldn't have made that correction if not for your geotag, so keep it up! I'll try to do some of my older shots as I have the time. (I wouldn't want to do someone else's photo until I was comfortable with the process using my own.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Common Ground The Christopher 202 West 24th St.jpg

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Added license accidentally left off. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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File:280 East 22nd St.jpg

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Marked for deletion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

met towers

I named that category according to Emporis.com. Xnatedawgx (talk)

File:Solon Borglum Inspiration and Aspiration.jpg

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Added license accidentally left off. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

File:German-American Shooting Society.jpg

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Fixed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Author?

No, I am the author of the image. You are simply an editor. There is a distinct and clear difference. [tk] XANDERLIPTAK 04:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Not as far as the Wikimedia wikis, including the Commons, are concerned - in this instance "author" is a term of art. If you were the sole author of the image, you could request deletion, but, in Wikipedia policies, we are both authors of the image -- although not, of course, of the underlying object.

As I said, if you didn't want your images to be available to be altered, you should not have uploaded them. And, please, you've already got yourself blocked on en.wiki, there's no need to do it here by continuing with these silly deletion requests. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:06, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

The tags are not for you to remove. If they are not duplicates, then let the admins more familiar with the policy here decide. Also, Wikipedia is not a collection dump, your edited version is an unused copy, nothing added to it. There is no reason to keep it. [tk] XANDERLIPTAK 06:03, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

You've now put three different deletion templates on this image, a clear indication that your interest is not in upholding Commons policies, but in deleting this image for your own personal reasons. I'll be happy to leave any relevant template added by anyone else on the image, but any template that you add will be removed, since it constitutes harrassment and is not a legitimate nomination.

You cannot carry your gripe from having your opinions questioned on en.wiki over to here, any uninvolved editor who reads the relevant discussion there (here (very long), here and here) will see that your actions are retaliatory, and not motivated by legitimate concerns. You must get over the idea that once you have uploaded your images to Commons, you still retain complete control of them, as if you had never released them. The relevant license is abundantly clear about what can be done with your images; it is not revokable, and the image you keep on attempting to delete (File:Coat of arms of Theodore Roosevelt by Alexander Liptak altered.png) is well within those rights.

Please stop this disruptive behavior. Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Outside of whatever paranoia you may have, Commons is not an image dump. You did not know how to remove the background of the image, you merely cropped it, which another version exists of it cropped with the background removed. I do not know you find retribution and persecution in everything, but you need to stop making everything so personal, it is just weird. [tk] XANDERLIPTAK 15:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

And I took the time to find this for you from the license, "In addition to the right of licensors to request removal of their name from a work when used in a derivative or collective they don't like, copyright laws in most jurisdictions around the world (with the notable exception of the US except in very limited circumstances) grant creators 'moral rights' which may provide some redress if a derivative work represents a “derogatory treatment' of the licensor's work. Moral rights give an original author the right to object to 'derogatory treatment' of their work; 'derogatory treatment' is typically defined as 'distortion or mutilation' of the work or treatment that is 'prejudicial to the honor, or reputation of the author.' Creative Commons licenses (with the exception of Canada) do not affect any moral rights licensors may have. This means that if you have moral rights as an original author of a work, you may be able to take action against a creator who is using your work in a way you find objectionable." Also, the license is only retroactively irrevocable. No license under United States law is irrevocable, and a court will not find it amusing you dictating what a court may and may not do. [tk] XANDERLIPTAK 15:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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[tk] XANDERLIPTAK 19:29, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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Fixed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:09, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

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Fixed. Damn, I am sloppy today. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:56, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

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Nominated for deletion as a duplicate (mispelling of the architect's name in the title) Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:00, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

File:The Edge in Williamsburg with Seastreak ferry.jpg

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Fixed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:08, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for the notification. Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:08, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

File:Orpheum Theatre.jpg

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Fixed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:55, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

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Pieter Kuiper (talk) 14:20, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk link in Author field

Hi Beyond My Ken, Regarding File:Merchant's House Museum entrance.jpg and possibly others, I'd like to ask to not put the (talk)-link in the Author field. External applications and re-users of Commons' content use this field for attribution. Attribution like "Photo by Beyond My Ken (talk)" seems weird outside of Commons, especially when not linked ;-). Knowing a lot of stuff is automated I guess you didn't do this intensionally but as a result of ~~~. Instead just type your nickname or use the "Own work"-upload form which does this automatically. –Krinkle^talk 10:50, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, didn't realize it was a problem, since all my personal uploads are marked in this way. I changed from 4 tildes to 3 tildes to avoid all the other stuff that comes with the standard signature. The "Own-work" upload form was a pain the last time I tried it, but I'll give it a try again on my next upload. Is there not a shortcut that will insert my name without anything else? Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:27, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Template:BMK

{{BMK}} has been moved to User:Beyond My Ken/BMK, you can use it with {{User:Beyond My Ken/BMK}}. I dont know the intended use, but from what the template looks like it would be better however, if you use author=[[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] and add the user category manually to your uploads. --Martin H. (talk) 15:55, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I wish you hadn't done that. The template was temporary, until I finish add my images to the category & fixing my author name as per the above request, then I was going to have it deleted (I've been substituting it, rather than transcluding it). With a couple of hundred images to categorize & author names to fix, I was trying to cut down on the amount of typing I had to do on each one. Any chance you could see your way clear to moving it back for a couple of days, until I finish the job? Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:20, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

On second thought, don't worry about it. Since I'm cutting-and-pasting the text anyway, I only have to type in the new, longer name at the beginning of a session or when I, for some reason, lose the text from the clipboard. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:57, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

It wouldnt be a problem to do some replacements with AWB if you give the exact phrases to replace. --Martin H. (talk) 20:48, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I've always stayed away from semi-automatic tools, for various reasons, but I'm reconsidering that stance. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Well

Really it just saves us work but mostly folk don't notice :). If you feel rollback would be useful feel free to let me know. Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:25, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

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Kam Solusar (talk) 19:12, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:29th_Street_(Manhattan)

Did you find any rests of the former fur industry around here? Greetings from a German furrier, thank you. --Kürschner (talk) 08:20, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Renaming of "File:Carved faces at the doorway of 211 West 21st Street, Manhattan, New York City, New York - 20101214.jpg"

Hi. I renamed "File:Carved faces at the doorway of 211 West 21st Street, Manhattan, New York City, New York - 20101214.jpg" as it is better to indicate the exact location of the subject of the photograph and the date. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 20:53, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't agree. The name is long and unwieldly and carries too much information. I suggest you don't make such judgment calls in the future, overiding the wishes of the uploader. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:18, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

File:Siad-Barre sz200.jpg

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Please don't blank pages

Hi Beyond My Ken,
Thank you for your contributions to Commons. I noticed you blanked Category:Lee Harris on Commons. If you meant for the page to be deleted, blanking the page is not the right way to do this. A simple real-world comparison to illustrate: You removed the entire text of a page from a thick folder, but the then empty, useless page itself remained in the folder.

Please use {{speedy| type reason here }} and add it on top of the page you would like to have deleted; This way it will be placed on a special list that administrators check regularly for deletion. Without this it might take a long time before it's noticed.

For redirects use #REDIRECT[[Target]] or {{category redirect|Targetcategoryname}}. For more information please read Blanking. Thanks again. –Krinkle^talk 01:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I didn't blank the page, I removed from it an incorrect category that I had added erroneously. The category had no categories in it when I got to it, and it's back in that state now, as I don't know the proper categories for the one image that is there (which is of a different Lee Harris than the one I was working on.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

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--Túrelio (talk) 21:23, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that does indeed look like a copyrighted image. In my defense, the page I took it off of was a U.S. government page with no copyright notice connected to the images on it, which is why I thought it was available for upload. The page cited in the speedy deletion notice does indeed indicate that it is copyrighted by the photographer, so I have no beef with it being SD'ed. My error. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:47, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

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Total bullshit, and quite possibly a bad-faith nomination. Admins should keep a close look on this IP. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:35, 30 March 2011 (UTC) Withdrawn, as there may be validity to this. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:06, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

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File:Salford Lowry 3560.JPG‎ et al

I don't agree with adding the l.s.lowry cat to these files- they say nothing about the great man. He never painted them unlike Stockport Viaduct, and the Lowry has onlyu a limited amount of his work on display. I suggest a revert. But thanks for looking and the thought. --ClemRutter (talk) 10:14, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

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Commons:Deletion requests/File:Anandamide.jpg

Would you mind revisiting the discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Anandamide.jpg? Your keep recommendation was premised on there being nothing in the nomination about the chemical structure being incorrect, but there is in fact a chemistry error in the image. Thank you. Ed (Edgar181) 12:02, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the new information, and the pointer. I've switched my !vote based on it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:47, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

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License accidentally left off. Fixed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:47, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

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Kelly (talk) 09:31, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I regret that this photo of a public artwork is not allowed on commons, per COM:FOP#United States, but it potentially can be uploaded and used as fair use on English Wikipedia. (see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Public_art/Image_guide) Cheers. Aude (talk) 22:19, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Utterly stupid. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:29, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

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Once again Wikimedia Commons' usefulness as an image repository is lessened by blind bureaucracy. Way to go. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:38, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

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Fixed Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:45, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

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Fæ (talk) 18:20, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I've tagged both for speedy deletion as copyright violations. Image is a Los Angeles Times photograph from 1978. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:56, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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Fixed Beyond My Ken (talk) 16:39, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Sir Winston Churchill Square (Manhattan)

Sir Winston Churchill Square (Manhattan) is in subcat: Category:Churchill Squares. Man vyi (talk) 08:35, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

OK. Beyond My Ken (talk) 08:36, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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Source provided (file not uploaded by me). Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:11, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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Village pump

FYI, you should have been notified of this Commons:Village_pump#Category_loops. --99of9 (talk) 05:21, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:40, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

"Pine Street"

Edit of yours reverted. This is part of a map of downtown Seattle, and has nothing to do with Philadelphia. - Jmabel ! talk 15:31, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I think the publisher is located on Pine Street in Philly, which threw me. Thanks for the fix. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

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Fixed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:08, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

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License tag of both fixed (changed from deprecated "public domain" to "pd-because|copyright of film was not renewed"). Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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mural

Most people say "thank-you", but ok.... I uploaded it as a derivative. No worries. Happy trails. – JBarta (talk) 03:26, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Really? Most people say "thank you" when you fool around with their images when they're still working on them? Interesting. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:30, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Category:MiMA

Yup. Good going. I mean, they aren't lovely, but you did better than I expected with the poor photos I provided. Even though I'll pass a couple blocks away, a couple hours from now, I don't intend to seek better because it's just not a particularly attractive a target. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:04, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Image was originally uploaded on en.wikipedia by en:User:Phmalo, who has not edited since 2007. The Wikipedia page says that the image came from the Skaneateles Festival page at [1], and has a tag saying that "The copyright holder of this file allows anyone to use it for any purpose, provided that the copyright holder is properly attributed. Redistribution, derivative work, commercial use, and all other use is permitted," however the page cited has no such license I can find, and simply has a 2012 copyright notice. (The page cited is a press release page, hwoever.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:29, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

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If you're going to upload US works without renewal, please use the {{PD-US-no renewal}} instead of {{PD-because}}.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:17, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but can you tell me which file you're referring to? I transferred a bunch of images from en.wiki in the last week or so. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:21, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

File:The Ghost Ship 1943 Finn the Mute.jpg, File:The Ghost Ship 1943 Stone and Bowns.jpg, any where else you've put {{pd-because|copyright of film was not renewed}}?--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:23, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I just saw that from your contrib list. Thanks for the info. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:24, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

To answer your question, I can't recall any others, but I'll take a look. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:26, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Dinosaur specimen categories

Why are you removing the categories for specific dinosaur specimens (and casts of them), thereby overcluttering their parent categories? If you have no good reason, I would appreciate if you reverted your edits. AMNH 5027 and similar are specimen numbers, so they do have meaning. If you want the name to be more specific, we could rename it "Tyrannosaurus AMNH 5027" or some such. FunkMonk (talk) 03:09, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

If you want me to reply you must stop re-editing your comment. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:14, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

You should reply regardless, this is a serious matter. FunkMonk (talk) 03:16, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I've been 'trying' to replay, but you keep edit-conflicting with me. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:17, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

It is rather irrelevant now, isn't it? Please address the problem. FunkMonk (talk) 03:18, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Please stop typing.

This is not a catalog for specialists who know what "AMNH 5027" means, it's a repository of images and media files for the general public, so category names must be understandble to them. If these categories are to be recreated, they need to be labelled in such a manner -- perhaps "Tyrannosaurus rex (AMNH specimen 5027)" or the equivalent for the triceratops category.

Now, are you saying that all the images in these two categories were of the same specimen? If so, why where they from different museums? Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Yet again, the images are of fossils and casts of them, and we could rename the categories if specimen numbers are too hard to comprehend. See other specimen categories at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fossil_Tyrannosaurus FunkMonk (talk) 03:25, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Specimen numbers are not "hard to comprehend" - you simply did not present any information that they were specimen numbers. General public -- remember? Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:29, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, those are incomprehensible as well. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:29, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

It's always good to do a little research before deleting stuff just because you don't get it. So let's get to the point and rename the categories and revert your edits. FunkMonk (talk) 03:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the reverts. Also, a Google search on "AMNH 5027" could had saved us the trouble, the first result is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specimens_of_Tyrannosaurus FunkMonk (talk) 03:47, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, and a little more thoughtfulness on your part at naming the categories you create would have prevented it from happening in the first place. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:01, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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The original uploaded dated the photo from 1915, and the subject matter makes it clear that it was made prior to 1923, which makes it PD in the US, regardless of where it specifically came from. I'll try to track it down, though. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:55, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Not suprisingly, considering that it looks very much like a scanned family/person snapshot, I found no source for it in a Google search. However, given its look, content, time period etc., I see very little chance that this a coyrighted or otherwise restricted photograph, and it would be a shame to lose it over a techicality, or because we can't get in touch with the uploader, who hasn't been active on en.wiki for about a year. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:12, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Please don't quibble about terminology. It's quite clear from the format of the image that it's a snapshot and was never "published" in any real sense before it was uploaded here. That still makes it pre-1923 ("publication" being therefore the date of creation) and PD. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:25, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

At the very least, allow me to open a deletion discussion instead of speedy deleting it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:05, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

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File:1884JohnHarvardDanielChesterFrench.jpg, which this was cropped from, turned out to be a copyright violation taken from Farrell Grehan/Corbis, so this will have to go as well. —LX (talk, contribs) 11:28, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, I agree with the deletion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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File:20 West 56th Street.jpg

People close to me have a history with this building. I was curious why you chose to photograph it and why you chose to include it in the Wiki Commons. Do you know anything about the history of significance of the building? Most sincerely, Kingturtle (talk) 18:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I took a picture of it because I was in the area, and it looked interesting. I tried to find out more about it, but it's not listed in the references I have. If I come up with anything more about it, I'll let you know. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:34, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Copywriters

Bob Newhart's worked as an advertising copywriter for the Fred Niles Film company. Please see the English Wikipedia article. Utcursch (talk) 17:15, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

So did others. Please see Category:Copywriters. I see you've undid many of my edits -- please read the English Wikipedia articles; all these people worked as copywriters at some point, and many of them (e.g Indra Sinha were chiefly known as copywriters before they became authors. Utcursch (talk) 17:19, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Evolution and Geological Planet Formation

Dear Beyond My Ken,

I am the copyright-owner of this book, therefore I am allowed to make it available to the scientifc community for free.

Please also read the talk with VSmith, who checked this out already. No deletion!

Kind regards Geomensch

Where is the discussion with Vsmith? I believe you have to go to Commons:OTRS and establish your legitimacy. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:47, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

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You're absolutely right, and if I had seen your commonscat in the external links I would not have changed it.
Thank you for your glorious pictures. I stumbled across Skaneateles while trying to find a work by Carl Conrads in the cemetery. What a beautiful village! BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:07, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it's very nice up there, I wouldn't mind at all going back someday. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

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Upcoming Summer Vermont trip

If you get a chance, could you get a shot of St. Albans (Amtrak station), or at least pass the word along to someone who can? I want to remove the New England Central Railway/former Central Vermont Railroad headquarters building from the infobox. I only posted the image there because it's nearby the station. ----DanTD (talk) 03:40, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll be an a pretty tight schedule while I'm up there, so I can't promise anything. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:42, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

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Per Commons:OVERCAT Cathy Richards (talk) 19:51, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Thesde are not overcats. PLease stop. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:52, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

bah si. Ce n'est pas compliqué à vérifier pourtant Benchaum (talk) 21:38, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Unexplained reverts

Good day. I do not understand the reason for your reverting two of my edits, [2] and [3]. Could you please explain? Thanks you. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 02:19, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, given the choice of putting pictures of people in "Brooklyn, New York City" or "People from Brooklyn", the latter makes more sense, since the subjects of the images are not places in Brooklyn, but people in Brooklyn. "People from Brooklyn" is not the very best match: we should probably also have a "People in Brooklyn" cat as well. Until we do, though, where I put them is the best place for them to be (besides the fact that it's a rather reasonable assumption that at least 2 of the 3 people presented are actually from Brooklyn). Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:24, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I appreciate your desire to put images in more precise categories, but disagree that this particular attempt was the proper way to do so. Note File:Band_Member_at_West_Indian_Day_Parade_2009.JPG depicts an event that happened in Brooklyn - there is no indication the person shown is from there, since it is a "West Indian Day Parade" I imagine the person might possibly be from the West Indies. "People from Brooklyn" seems to clearly be a category for individual people who are from Brooklyn, and is not related to where the photograph is taken. If you think a "People in Brooklyn" category would be useful, go ahead and create it. (Perhaps something like "Events in Brooklyn" might be appropriate for photos like this as well?) Note in this example you also removed category "2009 in New York City" without explanation. I'm not comfortable with your edit here, and you seem not to be comfortable with mine - I hope we can work out a solution we both think is ok. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 17:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

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Both images have clear permission. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

There deoes not appear to be OTRS permission on any of them. If there is, please update the images. Novaseminary (talk) 06:43, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

There does not need to be OTRS permission on a photo claimed to be the work of the uploader. Please know the policy and stop mistagging images, it appears you've been doing this for a while, and it's disruptive. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:45, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

According to the label, this file (File:MBI_BuckBuck.jpg) was "Uploaded to MBI Student network and released into PD on 27 September 2006". The uploader does not claim to be the photographer. We need proof that it was released to the PD, don't we? Novaseminary (talk) 06:51, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Stop what you are doing right now, or I'll bring your disruptive editing to the attention of an admin. Don't post here again. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:52, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Category:Former buildings in New York City

Why did you remove this category from the Tammany Hall category? Hamblin (talk) 02:00, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest, I think I got confused. I've restored it. My apologies. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:18, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

FYI, I am proposing a deletion or redirect of “Category:Demolished buildings in New York City” to “Category:Former buildings in New York City”, on the ground of redundancy. Hamblin (talk) 06:42, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

OK. I can't see how a building can get to be "former" without having been "demolished", so I supposed that makes sense. I would say that the resulting category should be "Former", since it requires nothing except evidence that the building no longer exists, whereas "demolished" required evidence that the building was... well... demolished. Beyond My Ken (talk) 07:44, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree. Thanks for your input. Hamblin (talk) 07:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

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Category:Church of the Immaculate Conception and Clergy Houses

Hi Beyond My Ken, you asked Why? It is quite simple: None of the media in Category:Church of the Immaculate Conception and Clergy Houses shows any work by Clayton and Bell, hence it is not helpful to put this into the category of Category:Clayton and Bell. Categories of stained glass manufacturers are expected to hold pictures of stained glass windows created by the respective firm or other materials related to that firm. But the mere connection that a church has some stained glass windows by a particular firm is no justification to move the church's category into the firm's category. Whenever images of these stained glass windows of that church created by that firm get uploaded, they can and should be added to the firm's category. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 12:04, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I disagree with that rationale. Since it's documented that the church does have windows by them, and they are mentioned in the description. People coming to the cat will see that there are no images of the windows, which will, one would hope, provoke them to find images. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:08, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

You have already documented in the description that some of the stained glass windows are from Clayton and Bell. This is helpful and helps to find possible manufacturers of stained glass pictures of that church. But the category system does not serve to create work lists including those sites where we do not have any images yet. Instead, work lists are to be put into the articles, like here where this particular church is still missing. The church as sub-category is pretty misleading as we would find images of a church sorted under Clayton and Bell which have no relationship to it. This would also create an overcategorization in the moment when a stained glass window of that church is added and put into the correct category of Clayton and Bell. If we would instead follow your approach, we could next make categories of villages sub-categories of a manufacturer or artist because somewhere in that village a church is to be found which has hopefully a stained glass window of that firm in the hope that someone is going to photograph it. All this violates the principle that categories should reflect hierarchies of concepts. The category system supports the creator/work relation but there is no such relation between Clayton & Bell and the church. There is one between Clayton & Bell and the individual stained glass windows they have created. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 13:51, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Not sure about the move from Race Street Friends Meetinghouse

I'm wondering if this was discussed anywhere. In many ways it's probably pretty minor, but I wouldn't want to see "Friends" taken out of the name of every Friends meetinghouse. If it means anything, I don't think there is an official name for the building. The "meeting" (congregation) is named the Central Philadelphia Monthly Meeting, but I'm pretty sure theere is no official name for the meetinghouse (the building - which is quite different). You might think that "meetinghouse" makes "Friends" redundant, but that is not the case as Mennonites, Brethern, and others prefer "Meetinghouse" to "church". And historically - which is important for many of these buildings - there were many Methodist and Presbyterian meetinghouses in the Philly area. So just checking, and please don't change other "Friends meetinghouses" just to "meetinghouse" without a discussion. Smallbones (talk) 04:07, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I hesitated before the move, but was pushed to make it when I looked at a photo I have of part of the sign on Chery Street outside the meetinghouse, where they, themselves, refer to it as the "Race Street Meetinghouse". Of course, this is a general problem with churches, where different denominations can use the same name within the same locality. Sometimes this is solved by putting the denomination name into parentheses, such "St. Luke's (Episcopal) Church" or "St. Luke's Church (Episcopal)" (I'm making these names up). Sometimes the churches themselves are helpful and include the denomination within the formal name.

I can't say I'd lose sleep if it went back to including "Friends", and maybe I should just do it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:16, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

OK., we're back to "Race Street Friends Meetinghouse" both here and on en.wiki. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:22, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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I don't see a deletion discussion tag on it. In any case, US government material is PD. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:52, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Category:Staten Island Ferry boats

You created this category and transferred the ships. No problem at all, I am from Rotterdam, not a native speaker of the English language. But I have a question for these categories. I learned that we speak of ferries, you use ferry boats. Is this a difference between American and Bitish English or is there another argument? --Stunteltje (talk) 19:11, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

In American English we can refer to the boat itself as a "ferry" or a "ferry boat". The service (line) is usually referred to as "Ferry". Thus the Staten Island Ferry (service) owns a number of ferry boats. One could also say "The Staten Island Ferry owns a number of ferries", which would be grammatically correct, but slightly ambiguous: does the company own a number of boats or does it own a number of other ferry services? I changed the category from "Staten Island Ferries" to "Staten Island Ferry boats" to eliminate any ambiguity about whether the category was referring to multiples lines as opposed to multiple boats. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:19, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

P.S. I don't know how British English works in this regard. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the fast answer. A good solution - we did it for a number of other categories - is to create a category: Category:Ships of ''Company name'', see e.g. Category:Holland America Line and Category:Ships by operator. But Category:''Company name'' boats will work too. The only thing is that just personally I don't prefer boats where ships are involved, except for tugboats. That's all. As I mentioned, no problem. --Stunteltje (talk) 21:45, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I always thought that "ship" was reserved for vessels of a certain size, and that maritime vessels smaller than that were called "boat". Of course, this is not my area of expertise, so I have no idea where the breakpoint is between a "boat" and a "ship" -- still I'm not sure that the S.I. Ferry's vessels are big enough to qualify as "ships" Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:31, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Also, just as a general rule, I prefer that sub-categories use a form where the main category name precedes the sub-category distinguishing terms; that is I prefer "Staten Island Ferry boats" over "Boats of the Staten Island Ferry." I think this makes it easier for the uploader who is uncertain what the right category is for the image. When they type in "Staten Island F" they're given the choice between "Staten Island Ferry" and "Staten Island Ferry boats", but "Boats of the Staten Island Ferry" will not come up as a choice at all - they'd have to put the image in the "Staten Island Ferry" category and then look for sub-categories, a step many uploaders never get to. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:38, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

As a general rule: You can put a boat on a ship, never a ship on a boat. You are referring to an old discussion, nobody can win. I myself have a barge, 24 meters of length, and she is definately a ship. Category:Stella Maris (ship, 1929) For Fishing vessels over 10 metres overall length, according the British Marine Management Organisation Statistics and Analysis Team we use Fishing ships. In this case "Staten Island Ferry boats" is much better than "Boats of the Staten Island Ferry". In general, the size of these ferries is the size of ships. But as ferry boats is the right term, you used a correct category name. --Stunteltje (talk) 05:54, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the information re:boats and ships - as I said, it's not my area of expertise. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:01, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

(Stalker pouncing late) To add to the fun, Lake freighters and other vessels that only operate in fresh water (or in salty inland waters, as Staten Island ferries do) are called boats, even if they are large enough to carry a small ship. And so are submarines. As as for the matter at hand, my thoughtful friend Ken has as usual got it right. Jim.henderson (talk) 20:27, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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