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Can you help me, I can't upload this file from flickr ! Thank you, --Tiptop 16:16, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:ewf_7092_noorwegen 2007.jpg

Same problem with also this file, I can't upload any files!--Tiptop 16:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Upload an image from Flickr, problem

Hi Bryan - Could you possibly help with these files? [1]. The error has been saved as 20cba580. Many thanks!--SajoR 02:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

BryanBot stalled on en:wp?

Last updates were 27 December. When you get to it is soon enough.. Thanks as always for your help! ++Lar: t/c 23:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Flikr upload

An unknown error has occured. The error has been saved as 50b91340. Please report this error to Bryan if this problem is persistent. --Raul6 08:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Ditto. An unknown error has occured. The error has been saved as 1b478800. Please report this error to Bryan if this problem is persistent. I tried to open [2] --AndreasPraefcke 21:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

An unknown error has occured. The error has been saved as 40b5244a...Thanks --B1mbo 01:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

License error on Flickr upload

Hi there. I'm getting "Error The Flickr image has a license which is incompatible with Wikimedia Commons." when trying to upload a Flickr image that is CC-BY. My CC-BY images used to upload fine... has there been a policy change? The image is: Thanks as always for your help! -- Joi 05:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, the image is returned when searching for free images with your interface on the phrase "satoimo". Here is the URL of the error too:

I've been getting the same error when attempting to upload Image:Moses Cleaveland.jpg, which was also published under an attribution license. - EurekaLott 06:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


Dag Bryan, Ik heb geen idee als dit veel werk is of überhaupt nog mogelijk is, maar kan je in plaats van Lycaon, Hans Hillewaert als attributie (credits) gebruiken bij mijn POTY2007 bijdragen? Thanks. Lycaon 13:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Flickr upload bot problem

Image:Bruce Campbell2.jpg

tokenId: 4913

"The error has been saved as 52baf35"

Thanks - Seidenstud 04:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Mass answer to Flickr problems

Thanks to this all my bots died. All Flickr problems should be solved now. Please follow the link again to upload the image. Thank you for your patience. -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm still getting the "The Flickr image has a license which is incompatible with Wikimedia Commons." message when attempting to upload Image:Moses Cleaveland.jpg. I obtained a new token, but it didn't make a difference. - EurekaLott 17:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Fixed now. Apparently Flickr switched from 32 bit to something higher... -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Great. Thank you! - EurekaLott 19:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

POTY soft

Op de kiesbrief staat er zowel in de lijst opzij al bovenaan Consiructions ipv Constructions. Anders geen fouten/problemen gezien. Klasse! Lycaon 02:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back

To you & the bot! Missed you both - cheers --Herby talk thyme 13:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


Done. However, the licensing is not correct. The image cannot be both PD-Self and GFDL. What was the original licnesing on the TR page? -- Bryan (talk to me) 10:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Dual licensing like that can be legitimate. -- Cat ちぃ? 15:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


Dag Bryan,

Sorry dat ik je even lastig val, maar kun je even kijken naar Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Carolshadow001.jpg? De toestemming voor deze afbeelding is door mij afgehandeld op de info-nl queue van OTRS. Alvast bedankt en groeten, Tjipke de Vries 17:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

"move back bot"

Could still use bot help to move all the images mentioned at Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Jorunn (uploaders request) to en-WP. Tagging at en-WP should be {{PD-Art}}{{Do not move to Commons}}. It'd be really great if you (or your bot :-) could help there. It's just too many files to move by hand. Lupo 09:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Hm. Would it help if I ran your bot under my admin account at en-WP? It should be possible to upload locally then, shouldn't it? In that way, we could upload at en first and then I could easily delete all those files (just one click per file as listed at the deletion request, using MediaWiki:DelReqHandler.js :-) Lupo 22:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

DRBot archival

I'm not convinced that monthly archives are well constructed in their present form. For example, Commons:Deletion requests/Archive/2007/09 is 48K long before you even consider the transclusions. (I'm not sure how to calculate the true length of that page). Two alternatives spring to mind: either go back to the daily logs or stop transcluding discussions.

Instead of having Commons:Deletion Requests/Image:Some awful image.jpg, perhaps "Image:Some awful image.jpg: Deleted Admin's rationale" would be more sensible. This would carry over the important info, without actually resulting in a hundreds of KB long page.--Nilfanion 10:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


Commons:Deletion requests/Image:F-15 vertical deploy.jpg. Oops? Patrícia msg 14:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Mailing list

A few more probs related to POTY voting have been brought up on the list...just as an FYI. Giggy 03:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and welcome back, and thanks for all your work :D Giggy 03:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker issues

Could you check edits of your bot here? Size of the site is changing from 80 to 400kB and it looks like a bug. Thanks in advance. Mathepl 00:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, that looks really strange... I've asked Bryan to take a look at it... Cheers! Siebrand 18:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Replacer still keeps on crashing quite quickly after being started... :( Siebrand 18:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Deletion requests

Bryan - are these normally archived by one of your bots? It seems to have stopped, as there are quite a few old but unarchived closed entries. --MichaelMaggs 17:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Should run tomorrow, -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I think something does not work because the bot did not archive anything in Commons:Deletion requests/2007/11 and in Commons:Deletion requests/2007/12. --ALE! ¿…? 17:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Redirect volgen

Hoi Bryan, handig die DRBot. Ik heb alleen een klein verzoekje. Zou je je bot redirects willen laten volgen? Dus in plaats van hier dat de bot het bericht bij mij op de overleg pagina mikt. Zou top zijn. Op de nl wikipedia hebben we een bot die hetzelfde doet (E85Bot). Die draait elke nacht om 1 uur en laat dan een berichtje achter op de overleg pagina's waar dat nog niet gebeurd is, erg handig. Zou ook zeer handig zijn als dat hier op commons zou gebeuren. Het op de hoogte stellen van uploaders wordt regelmatig vergeten. Multichill 12:07, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

disambiguations at de.wikipedia

Hey Bryan, your bot at ([3]) didn't run for almost two weeks (I hope you enjoyed your holiday in that period ;)) Could you please update our list? --Aktionsheld 23:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Zelfde verzoek hier vanaf nl:. Die lijst die je bot aanmaakt is erg handig, en we zouden graag een nieuwe hebben! (plus een telling hoever we zijn in het wegwerken van al die links). - Andre Engels 13:16, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Running. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Seems to be some problem updating the German version. Will look into it later this week. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Re : Commons:Picture of the Year/2007

Wow ! Thanks for the information. Glad to know about it. And thanks a lot for the great work you did and still do for this competition (and your other contributions) ! Sting 22:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

  • That's exactly what I also wanted to say. Thank you very much! --Flicka 16:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

re: Moving Jorunn's images to en-WP

Thank you for your help. I greatly appreciate it. But it seems we really really should have a dedicated "MoveBackBot", as there appear to be more cases like this. Just see Commons:Deletion requests/Files by Arthur Rackham... ugh! If we can't automate this from A to Z, I fear we'll have to settle for "delete here, and that's it". Lupo 15:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Missing vote checkboxes for PotY

Hi Bryan. I am voting for photos in Commons' PotY, and I noticed a problem with the voting page. For images with long names or many licenses, such as Image:Mont Blanc depuis la gare des glaciers.jpg in the Nature Views category, the vote checkbox can be hidden. The checkbox is pushed down below the bottom border of the containing box. If you don't observe this problem with your browser, increase your font size. This problem can be resolved by reducing the text size in one's browser, but I would guess that many people would get confused or frustrated because they wouldn't be able to figure that out. I hope you'll be able to sort out a solution. Thanks. ~MDD4696 16:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

New Flickr copyright tag

Hello. Thought you might like to know that Flickr recently launched a new service called The Commons. (I know I've heard that name somewhere before, but I can't quite put my finger on it. :) All of the images there are currently from the Library of Congress and are published under a new "no known copyright restrictions" license. There's more discussion at the Village pump. Do you think you can make your upload bot compatible with the new tag? - EurekaLott 04:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Replacer OK, maar *niet* op Commons zelf

Hoi Bryan,

replacer lijkt nu vrij stabiel. Echter, sinds 12/1 vervangt CD op Commons geen afbeeldingen meer[4]. Zie CommonsDupes. Gevolg is dat deze allemaal handmatig vervangen moeten worden. Vreemd... Kan je daar iets aan doen? Groet, Siebrand 14:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Calkins Science Center


Empty div in MediaWiki:Watchlist-details

I don't think the empty little box that you left in MediaWiki:Watchlist-details gives Special:Watchlist a better look. Cheers ∴ AlexSm 20:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Problem with flickrupload

Image is not uploading --Ragib 05:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

POTY Final

Hoi/Hello Bryan, I just voted in the POTY-final. After voting I returned automatically to the page with the "overview" of the categories, and it states for which image I have voted. However, it (still) asks me to vote in the other categories as well. The only existing category of course is "Final". So it still says that I will have to vote in the Final, although I just did that... I assume that my vote has been registered correctly, but the message is still very confusing. If you have the time, maybe you could amend this, so other users won't be as confused as I was? Thank you! Fruggo 12:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Flickr upload Bot problems


I uploaded these two images with the Flickr Upload Bot earlier today. I received no error message while uploading, but the files haven't appeared yet after several hours. Can you help please?

Thanks, Pharaoh Hound 19:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Museu militar

ID 5477 Hi Bryan the has been a problem uploading the photo Museu Militar.jpg. Regards Carlos Botelho 15:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Museu militar

ID 5477 Hi Bryan the has been a problem uploading the photo Museu Militar.jpg. Regards Carlos Botelho 15:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


Image deletion warning Image:Cola2.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this image, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.
In all cases, please do not take the deletion request personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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-Nard 17:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Catrinas 2.jpg

Hi Bryan, could you please provide your opinion on this deletion request. Thank you and best regards --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 23:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

DRBot deletion backlog

Does DRBot check through the deletion backlog and archive/post keep notices on image pages (at Commons:Deletion requests/Older Discussions)? Thanks. --Tom (talk - email) 16:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Woman fedayeen

Hi there. I'll have to doublecheck the source for that picture. As far as I understood from the person who sent them to me, these were from his private collection of pictures which he is willing to disseminate in the public domain. However, if this particular image is indeed a newspaper photo, you are correct about the licensing. Please give me a couple of day to check and get back to you. Thanks. Tiamat 15:04, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Bryan. It turns out that of the three photos I uploaded, this particular one wasn't taken by the person who forwarded them to me, but another photographer. So even though it's not a newspaper scan, the author of the photo was not the one to grant the permission for its use. Consequently, it should be deleted.
Thanks so much for prompting me to look into the subject further. And you can go ahead and delete it. Tiamat 16:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


I am Drahcir from enwiki. I tried to get my voting token for POTY but my email doesnt seem to have come. I've checked my Inbox and my spam folder. Should I just wait a while, or what? -- 02:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Archive notes

Front page, final results, disclaimer, licenses. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

POTD, upload log, metadata? -- Bryan (talk to me) 22:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Remove vote link on template!!! -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Update descriptions (should be fairly easy). Disclaimer needs publishing!!! -- Bryan (talk to me) 22:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Bad images need updating too (can do now?) -- Bryan (talk to me) 22:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Duplicate {{kept}} tags

Hi Bryan. I've notices that DRBot is sometimes adding a {{kept}} tag where one already exists. See --MichaelMaggs 07:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I'm not sure how to solve this. I could check for the existence of {{kept}}, but in case the image is requested for deletion and kept for a second time, it would not insert the template. The other way is to check whether there are backlinks to the deletion request (like Whatlinkshere). This would fail in case there has been a previous discussion on the image talk page that is pointing to the deletion request. The real solution is of course to parse the wikitext, but that is also really hard, and prone to errors. What is your opinion? -- Bryan (talk to me) 15:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure either. Maybe there's something that you and Lupo could work out between you - the images that this happens on are those where I have closed a Del Request using his code. Maybe both sets of code shouldn't be trying to add the same template? Perhaps Lupo's code could not add the template at all, leaving your to do it overnight?--MichaelMaggs 19:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, disabling this feature in DelReqHandler and leaving it all to DRBot is one solution. Or DelReqHandler could wrap the {{kept}} tag it adds in a <div class="fromDelReqHandler" id="fromDelReqHandler_2008_01_10">, and DRBot could check for the presence of divs of that class and then extract the date from the ID. But first, I think this is a wider problem that calls for a general solution. What if someone closes a DR and adds {{kept}} manually? Therefore, I'd suggest making the template wrap itself by such a div. It should be possible that the template creates an ID like "kept_2008_01_20" with the date the template was added. If DRBot finds that this date matches the date the deletion request was closed, it need not add itself another {{kept}}. That should be good enough, provided DRBot runs regularly. Lupo 19:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Matching on dates is very hard. Today is 24 January, January 24, 24-1, 24-01, 1-24? Automatically adding the date without DelReqHandler will only work when substing the template... something that does not happen. I think the way to go is the Whatlinkshere solution; I'll think about it, maybe I get some good idea. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Re substing: {{User:Lupo/test2}} gives


Seems to work without subst... Lupo 20:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Tomorrow, /test2 will show tomorrow's date. Hmmm. Will /test3, too? {{User:Lupo/test3}} gives


Hmmm.... probably you're right. I should better go get some sleep! Lupo 20:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok, the above was clearly not what we needed. But one can subst {{CURRENTTIME}} and so on, too. See User:Lupo/test4.





With that, it does seem possible to have that template create a static timestamp. (Note that in these testfiles, I've only substed CURRENTTIME, not yet the date. So the date should always be the current date, but the time should remain fixed at the time the template call was added to the page! (Note that it is now already several minutes past 07:33 (UTC), yet the templates above still show the time the calls to /test3 and /test2 were added to /test4. For a real implementation in {{kept}}, we'd of course need to subst CURRENTYEAR/MONTH/DAY instead. See en:Help:Substitution#Predefined templates. Lupo 07:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
That looks good! Let me know when you get it working in {{kept}} and I can implement it in DRBot next week or something. Would it be possible to use the CURRENTDATE to add a link to a fake page, for example [[Template:Kept/Dates/{{CURRENTDATE}}]]? This way it would be easier for me to implement :) Regards, -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: it's over


And you :)

Thanks for all your work programming our strange requests, and so quickly too. The ZIP is a valuable record that will be treasured.

And now I can probably stop sending you 20 mails every day ;)

--pfctdayelise (说什么?) 21:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, bug me around the 4th Feb on daily-image-l stuff. Until then I am too busy. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 05:33, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

POTY on the frontpage

I like putting the POTY on the frontpage. I don't think it was done last year? However, formatting it the same as the featured picture makes the one side of the page kind of long. What do you think of something along the lines of the finalists template, along the top of the page?

POTY barnstar 1-2007.svg

The finalists have been selected! Vote in the 2007 Commons Picture of the Year competition.
The final voting round to select the 2007 Picture of the Year is open from from 20 until 24 January.
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Of course it would be reworded and include a picture, but it would make things a bit more balanced as well. --Tom (talk - email) 21:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I suppose it's fine this way. --Tom (talk - email) 21:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Error on Picture of the Year page?

Hi, Bryan. It seems that you were involved in the creation of the Picture of the Year/2007 page. So perhaps you can fix what looks like an error there: the image captioned "#4 – 62 votes; The Taj Mahal in Agra, India" is actually a photo named "Terrace field yunnan china denoised.jpg". It would appear that either the caption or the image is wrong. Thanks for featuring these great photos.--Blanchette 20:37, 26 January 2008 (UTC) Looking again it now is captioned properly. Never mind!--Blanchette 20:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

PR ;)

Here, on pl wikinews we have an article about POTY 2007 Przykuta 21:49, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


This year's POTY was awesome. Thank you very very much for all your behind the scenes hard work! ++Lar: t/c 13:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Upload failure: Token:5745 Image:Nationalism v Anarchism.jpg

Hello. I've had an upload failure on Image:Nationalism v Anarchism.jpg. The token ID is 5745. Any help appreciated. Yours, Astrojunta 17:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Image upload problem from Flickr

Hi Bryan. I'm trying to upload an image from Flickr and it said: An unknown error has occured. The error has been saved as 25d2c89b. What am I supposed to do? The image I was trying to upload is. Black Tusk 04:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Black Tusk 09:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Lost items, need recovery

Stuff between 25 Jan 00:00 and 22:09, 26 January 2008 (UTC). -- Bryan (talk to me) 22:09, 26 January 2008 (UTC) >>> time.gmtime(1201219631) (2008, 1, 25, 0, 7, 11, 4, 25, 0) -- Bryan (talk to me) 11:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

mwclient help

Hi Bryan, I am trying to use mwclient to extract subcategories and pages listed under a category. I am having trouble in using the Categories class. If you could include some example of it in the README.txt that would be helpful. ---Thanks, Srini

The category class is an iterator and can thus be iterated over with a for loop. It returns Page object, or a subclass such as Category or Image. I'm in the process of getting a project and once I have that I will do some major rewrite and also documentation. -- Bryan (talk to me) 09:13, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

JavierSierra.jpg has permission, please help me, I do not know put the appropiate type of licensing

Please see the permission of this webpage (sorry in Spanish):

Si requieres una imagen mía para ilustrar un artículo o reportaje, puedes descargarte aquí estas imagenes. Están a la resolución adecuada para impresión, y se ruega que se añada a cada una de ellas el copyright correspondiente, seguido de la denominación


If you want an image of mine to illustrate an article or story, 'you can download these pictures here'. They are at the proper resolution for printing, and are requested to be added to each corresponding copyrights, followed by the name

Can you help me? JavierSierra gives permission for articles. The English version has permission, Why not in Commons?--Cerato 18:29, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Upload an image from Flickr, problem

Hi Bryan - Could you possibly help with these files? Sopetran-Panoramica.jpg. The error has been saved as 62447d91.. Many thanks! The preceding unsigned comment was added by SajoR (talk • contribs) at 02:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Flickr image 2141804803

Bryan - Also have been having problems with the above image for a week now. Any help when you get back much appreciated. Thank you. --NeroTulip 00:00, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


Hello! i uploaded a picture that i find at wikipedia, but couldnt use it in a artikel. I dont know why. So i saved it and uploaded it again and know it works. The licens is below the picture and because it is created before 1923it would be no problem i thougt. Its from 1867. The picture is used in the artikel "Red Clouds war" in the english wikipedia, it was there i find it. /User talk:Jagarn 17:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

An unknown error has occured

I got the message "An unknown error has occured. The error has been saved as 49bdd4c6. Please report this error to Bryan if this problem is persistent." for both Image:MINIClubman-open.jpg and Image:MINIClubman.jpg. // Liftarn

Thanks! // Liftarn

Oops... Image:1955Kurtis500S.jpg gives a "500 Internal Server Error". // Liftarn 14:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)