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Hello, Daicaregos!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

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BotMultichillT 05:44, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Map request[edit]

Do you mean basically adding the Robinson projection (the "oval map") to the existing one, or are there more changes you had in mind (e.g. the removal of the zoomed in British Isles)? Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 14:10, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I mean both. Adding the Robinson projection and removing the zoomed in British Isles. Daicaregos (talk) 17:47, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Alphathon, have you had any further thoughts on this? Daicaregos (talk) 16:02, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi, sorry I didn't reply sooner - I had no idea you'd replied on your own talk page. I certainly could do that, and it really wouldn't be that much effort. However, I'd be hesitant about removing the zoomed in British Isles.
The reason I created that map was to replace an existing map which used a different projection and colour-scheme than those of other countries. However, I felt that Wales's (and Scotland's, England's and Northern Ireland's for that matter) place within the UK was as important as it's/their position within Europe. The constituent countries of the UK are in a somewhat unique position when it comes to infobox maps, since they are both separate countries and parts of a larger nation state. As countries, it is useful to show them within the continent on which they reside similar to the examples which you gave in your initial post). As parts of a nation, it is also useful to show them within said country. To put it another way, it seems fairly obvious that one would place, for example, counties of England within a map of England, rather than Europe. As such, I felt (and still feel) retaining the British Isles map was probably a good idea. Before removing the zoomed-in UK map, I'd encourage you to seek consensus from editors on all four pages (for consistency reasons, if one is changed, the others should be changed as well). One possible alternative would be to split the two into separate maps (one of Europe, one of the British Isles) and display them both in the infoboxes.
As for the Robinson projection of the world in the corner, I don't see there being any major problems with that, other than maybe a bit of clutter should the zoomed-in British Isles be retained.
Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 16:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. The old map contained a world map. No complaints were made about clutter. When your map replaced it, which you updated without without first obtaining consensus from editors of all four country pages, I reverted because that the map was not consistent with other European countries. The edit summary re-inserting your map noted “The newer map is the standard used on all European country infoboxes”. But, as you have said, they are not comparable. Looking at Latvia, Germany, Andorra and Ukraine, for example, an oval world map is provided, then Europe zoomed in with the relevant country highlighted. The map added back to Wales has no world view and, consequently, is different. I would be grateful if you would create a new map to include the Robinson projection of the world in the corner. That would at least take us back to the map it replaced. Many thanks. Daicaregos (talk) 16:01, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Sure. As I said, I don't really have a problem with adding the Robinson to them, and don't think anyone else will really. The only reason I didn't to begin with was that the file I based mine on didn't have one, and I didn't really think about it. I'll get on to it when I get a chance. As for being comparable with the other maps, I'd say they are when it comes to the large area portion of the map, especially the projection and the colour scheme. The only part that isn't is the zoomed in portion. The reason I didn't seek consensus first was that I felt the change was uncontroversial - that is, all it really changed was the colour scheme and the projection, which was now in line with those of other countries. The only other real difference was the world map, wich as I said I didn't really think about. It should also be noted that the reversion wasn't by me but by Hazhk. Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 16:45, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, it was Hazhk. I did not mean to imply it was you ... or anyone. Just that it was reverted. Apologies if that is how it sounds. Hazhk was wrong to say “The newer map is the standard used on all European country infoboxes”. It is not. It contains no world map and other European countries are not shown as part of an area other than Europe, wheras Wales is - whether you consider it necessary or not, that is the case. I look forward to seeing your updated map, including the Robinson projection of the world. Many thanks, Daicaregos (talk) 17:13, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

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✓ Done: Wales, Scotland, England, Northern Ireland. Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 18:45, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

That's great Alphathon. Many thanks for that, much appreciated. I see it has updated on the articles automatically - even better. Cheers for now. Daicaregos (talk) 08:27, 20 January 2013 (UTC)