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--Mywood 10:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Durova 12:01, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:Polish cavalry in Sochaczew(1939)a.jpg[edit]

Thanks again for all your help. I just swapped all the places where the image was used for the improved version. Greetings --Jarekt 13:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. I've started a new page to work on and highlight this type of restoration: User:Durova/Encyclopedic image restoration. Looks like you've got quite an interesting collection of photographs of Polish history. If you'd like some others restored, please place your requests there. Best wishes, Durova 20:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I will try to pick some worthy candidates. I added a lot of images from Warsaw Uprising and a lot of them are very interesting but few are of good enough quality to even bother with restoration. Hopefully they are just place holders. Also my Category:Stroop Report has some of the most striking images, but the whole category is still in limbo. But I will find something. As for nominating the current image for picture peer review on english wikipedia, feel free to do it. I will be happy to conominate, and my account name is the same an on commons (only on polish wekipedia I have a different one, since my was already taken). --Jarekt 02:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I may wait a little bit with peer review because I put a lot of images up there already (people are reluctant to respond if one editor floods the page). Either that or we could go straight to FPC. Your choice. Durova 02:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I split FPC pages for Image:Polish cavalry in Sochaczew (1939).jpg and Image:Polish cavalry in Sochaczew(1939)a.jpg --Jarekt 14:06, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. :) And as soon as those new scans are ready on your other images I'll start working on them. Best regards, Durova 20:51, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Just found this. I will try to scan again. --Jarekt 02:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Wall of Shame[edit]

Because Image:Wall of shame.jpg duplicates copyrighted images that are not owned by the uploader or the claimed source, I have placed Wall of Shame for speedy deletion instead of Deletion discussion. Should you feel it needing different wording, be bold. ALLSTAR echo 01:05, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, we'll see how that flies. My inclination would have been to put it through regular deletion. As you can see from the Matt Sanchez thread, the copyright argument is open to misinterpretation. The architectural background looks like the east gate of College Walk and I really don't recall whether that was built before or after 1922. The campus added a lot of measures for crowd control after the riots of the late sixties and early seventies, so it would take research to tell when they gated off 116th Street. Durova 01:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Also see Image:SanchezWithCoulter-w.jpg. On User:Bluemarine, which is Sanchez as well, he says he pulled this off of John Avarsis web site. I've also speedied it too. ALLSTAR echo 01:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

FP Promotion[edit]

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--Mywood 21:56, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Durova 22:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Very cool photo. Of note is the whiskey being shared.. appears to be being shared by the only white man in the picture, with a black man. Didn't see that much in those times for sure. Well done. ALLSTAR echo 02:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Hard to tell sometimes; that was my thought too when I looked at the faces. They had segregated regiments in those days so it might be more likely that the man who looks white had mixed ancestry. Either way, thanks very much and best wishes. Durova 06:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:Stroop Report - Warsaw Ghetto Uprising 06.jpg[edit]

Stroop Report - Warsaw Ghetto Uprising 06.jpg

Durova, This image was just cleared from deletion request. I was thinking about submitting it for FP nomination. In my book this is one of the most iconic images of WWII. Would you like to work on it first? There seems to be a version of it that got FP on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Warsaw-Ghetto-Josef-Bloesche-HRedit.jpg. --Jarekt 03:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. It nearly got de-featured on en:Wikipedia due to size issues, so I contacted a Holocaust museum and they uploaded the current larger version. Extremely important topic. I'll absolutely support. :) Durova 03:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I had no idea you were involved in getting bigger version. I was very happy to find it. Do you think any cleaning might make this image even better, or is it fine as is?--Jarekt 02:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
I was working on it yesterday. Getting a request makes that an easier decision, actually, because this image is famous and important enough that I'd hesitate to try that on my own initiative. Has some mild issues with lossy compression, but not visible until you get to high magnification. Needs maybe another day of work. It's mostly done, still needs attention on the faces and the Nazis in the corner. Durova 18:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Status[edit]

Since you did well in getting ahold of the Spectator, see this. Thanks. ALLSTAR echo 17:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I saw. Have you tried contacting the photographer? Durova 17:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks. :) Durova 12:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Matt Sanchez[edit]

Durova, I understand you wanted to contact me. Please e-mail me at (e-mail address removed to foil crawlers)


Also, I added another image to the gallery.

Done. Durova 15:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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--Mywood 08:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Durova 18:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for the offer, but I must decline.

Wmpearl 04:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

All right. Best wishes. Durova 04:36, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Media of the day[edit]

Be bold and go ahead! :) There's currently no rules for nomination of Media of the day. You are welcome to do so because there are some red links too (such as March 17). But please make sure that you update the captions for the file as well.--Lkopeter 06:53, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry that I am unable to assist. Maybe you should ask an admin to review it.--Lkopeter 08:05, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, will do. Thank you. Durova 08:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


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Durova, congratulations! You now have the rights of administrator on Commons. Please take a moment to read the Commons:Administrators page and watchlist related pages (in particular Commons:Administrators' noticeboard and Commons:Deletion requests), before launching yourself into page deletions, page protections, account blockings or modifications of protected pages. The majority of the actions of administrators can be reversed by the other admins, except for history merges which must thus be treated with particular care.

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Congratulations for the solid consensus on your RfA :) Please update this listing with whichever rights you may have on other projects. Patrícia msg 13:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations. The back logs are awaiting. :) FloNight♥♥♥ 13:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you both very much. (Mmmm, pie.) :) Durova 16:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations from me too. --MichaelMaggs 21:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Aw (blush), thanks. Durova 21:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm looking forward to Commons having 10,000 pie images. You promised! giggy (:O) 07:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

but they cant all be half eaten 8-) Gnangarra 07:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Have a slice; there's plenty for everyone.
Getting a start on this... :) Durova 08:39, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Well done on your first mass deletion. Now we'll let you into the cookie vault. giggy (:O) 09:35, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
MMMmMMMmmm. :) Durova 09:37, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations!!! Muro de Aguas 15:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Congrats on a unanimous approval! BrokenSphere 16:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! Durova 21:57, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

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--Mywood 21:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! :) Durova 05:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks! It's nice to be nominated by someone else;)--Luc Viatour 08:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

questionable images[edit]

Hi Durova, the uploader of this deleted image (Cabrera.jpg) has three more that appear questionable per similar reasoning: Image:Juanjosearevalo1.jpg‎, Image:Rufinobarrios.JPG‎, and Image:Rufino barrios.JPG‎. Do you think it would make sense to nominate these for deletion as well? ЭLСОВВОLД talk 22:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes it would. Good observation, thank you. :) Durova 22:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Howdy D-L[edit]

Would you do me a favor and delete these images: Image:Self 2.jpg Image:David Shankbone by David Shankbone.jpg Image:Billy Name and David Shankbone 2.jpg Image:Wikipedia User David Shankbone by David Shankbone.jpg I might ask for more, but these can definitely go. I forgot how many photos of me are on here. I'd hate if anyone thought I was self-promoting ;-)

--DavidShankbone 04:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

It is traditional to go through a normal deletion request process even to delete personal pictures. Shouldn't be a huge problem, just state they are no longer needed for your personal userpage so they are now out of project scope. Of course someone might have a use for them ... --Tony Wills 06:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind going ahead with the normal deletion proposal, David? Durova 08:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
No worries - I'll do a deletion process. --DavidShankbone 21:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Advice?[edit]

Hi Durova. I've spent most of the weekend gathering some self-made pictures to upload here. I was wondering if you could give some advice? I'm using the same license (GFDL) as I used before, when I uploaded self-made pictures last year, but was wondering whether I should be selecting the multi-license options instead on the upload menu. I guess it is up to me, but I would like to settle firmly on one license option and stick to it. One thing I'm not sure about is whether I can change from single-license GFDL to multi-license (or even PD) later on. Would you be able to advise? I'm also trying to find the restrictions on panorama and statues. I have quite a lot of statue pictures, from several different countries, and don't want to upload ones that are still copyrighted, or where freedom of panorama doesn't apply. There was a list somewhere of countries and their stance on this. Do you know where that is? Carcharoth (Commons) 15:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

As the owner of the photographs, once you've published material you can release more rights but not less. So the stuff you've already released as GDFL you could release to the public domain, but I don't think you could add a Creative Commons license to them. The copyleft license I find most interesting - the one that probably has greatest value to the owner - is CC-by-sa. Basically you can use that to require a link back to your own website at every downstream use. Regarding freedom of panorama, I'm not sure where to check beyond Commons:Licensing - but maybe someone at a noticeboard can help you with something more specific. Please let me know if they do! Durova 18:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I will check with others about adding CC later, but I will probably "upgrade" some of them to PD anyway. I found Commons:Freedom of panorama, and that helped with France, the UK, and Spain, but it doesn't have anything about Bulgaria. :-( I have some photos from some other East European countries as well. Any ideas? Carcharoth (Commons) 11:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Heh, look for a translator if you can. I've pressed my not-so-great Spanish into service trying to comprehend Cuban and Panamanian copyright law. Tried a draft translation of relevant passages for Commons, but I'm not confident enough of my mastery of either the language or the underlying subject to post it. What we need is a translation project for copyright laws! Good luck; this is a tough nut to crack. Durova 04:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, I got an answer on the talk page of Commons:Freedom of panorama, but not a clear enough one. I presume all the "non-commercial" bits on Commons:Freedom of panorama mean "not free enough for Commons", but it would be nice if the page explicitly said that. Probably, as always, the situation is "unclear". :-/ BTW, would you be able to have a quick look at the Science Ref Desk on en-Wikipedia? I have some image questions there, but I think I need to find a better place to ask such questions. Are there places on Commons to ask, in particular about the Google Maps post-facto identification of pictures. The clouds and bird questions I think I should have taken to the birds wikiproject and a clouds one (if it exists). Finally, this is only the second WMF project I am (slowly) becoming more involved in. Any chance of a quick tour or a few words on how things are different over here? I've heard things but a quick rundown on difference in culture, number of editors, speed of responses, places to go and ask questions, would be helpful. I'm not looking for help pages as such, more something to help those who have worked on other wikis to make a smooth entrance, rather than go blundering around. I know, I should go read the help pages, but talking (even if typing) is nicer sometimes. :-) Carcharoth (Commons) 16:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone also mentioned over there that I could take the blue out of a long-range aerial shot! But that is the natural colour for such an image! If I wanted to avoid that, I'd get closer. Well, not in that case, in an aeroplane, but you know what I mean. You do image touching up and restoration - do you think such a change would be acceptable or not? The image I think the guy over there meant was Image:Thames estuary (aerial view).jpg, but the lighting there is also due to it being sunset. Carcharoth (Commons) 16:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Try en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Meteorology for clouds. I'll look into other links for you. Durova 18:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm also noticing that some features of the interface are better over here. The watchlist seems to be more inuitive. Maybe I have some preferences switched off back on en-Wikipedia, or they aren't in use over there. The category adding tool in the Gadgets preferences is great! Ah. I see it is there on en-Wikipedia as well. I wonder how long I would have carried on missing that... Carcharoth (Commons) 21:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

.pdf files[edit]

Hi, I notice you've marked large numbers of .pdf files for deletion as outside project scope. Could you explain your rationale for this? Commons:Project scope seems to allow them. Durova 06:49, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Here Here is the original discussion in the Commons Project Scope section Talk page. Basically I am cleaning up and organizing the over 12,400 pdf files that are not linked to anything. While I was doing so another User was requesting text based pdf files for deletion as they were out of the Commons Scope of images only. I am now setting the text based pdf files aside so that an Admin can look at them for possible deletion. Some are images pdf files within the Categories, but it is a file by file process for the next level. I am hoping that a decision can be made about keeping relavent text based pdf files as some are Wiki projects already ok'd. WayneRay 11:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)WayneRay
You can answer on my page if you like.

Image:Dick MacPherson.png[edit]

Can you delete Image:Dick MacPherson.png as it is not free from Flikr? Thanks, Milk's Favorite Cookie 02:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

File:Sciurus carolinensis (grey squirrel) head down.jpg[edit]

Uh, thanks for the spelling correction (I think). Actually, the spelling was right all along, as that's a UK grey squirrel (what you'd call in the US a gray squirrell). No-one where I come from would ever use the spelling 'gray'. See Grey. --MichaelMaggs 21:42, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

See en:WP:LAME. ;) Durova 21:50, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Highshines[edit]

You may want to look at the last section of http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Highshines&oldid=8003322 Smyjpmu 21:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, offering the person a chance at a good faith explanation here. He had some difficulty executing the deletion notices. Maybe there's a language barrier? Durova 22:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Many images of Gaynewyorker[edit]

Hello, I recall you were involved in the deletion of some of this users images previously- I believe the above is in fact a self deletion request and should be granted. Regards Gustav VH 10:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up; I'll give it a look. Durova 16:37, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. I think it is likely that that the uploader used the account Special:Contributions/Gaynewyorker from April-May, 2007 and then lost their password and so started the Special:Contributions/Figure4 account in November, 2007. The vast majority of Figure4's edits were only to images made by the first account. I think it would be an act of courtesy to delete the remaining intimate image even though the face is not shown since the person obviously knows it is them and clearly no longer feels comfortable with their image being public. I think also that a notice needs to be placed on the upload form warning that intimate images will be deleted unless proof of permission is sent to Wikimedia first and perhaps also a warning of the consequences of uploading such images under a free license i.e. that they may be used in a manner the person considers distressing. Gustav VH 19:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lucyreconstruction.jpg[edit]

On Image:Lucyreconstruction.jpg it is not mentioned where you took this picture, or if you had permission. The reason why we are interested is because depending on the museum and who did the reconstruction, the work may be copyright. This in turn would unfortunately make your picture a {copyvio}. Thanks. --ShakataGaNai Talk 20:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Hm, good point. I wouldn't object to deleting it in that case. Hadn't thought of that angle, but you're probably right. Durova 21:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Morts britanniques à la bataille de Le Cateau.jpg[edit]

As I noticed here: fr:Wikipédia:Atelier graphique/Images à améliorer#Bataille du Cateau, the above noted image can stand a bit of touching up. Thought it might be a challenge for you :) Bastique demandez 03:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Cary. Unfortunately this may not be within Commons hosting policies. It was taken in Europe in 1914 and lacks author information. Shouldn't have been transwikied here. Should be fine for en:Wikipedia though. I'll give this some thought. Durova 10:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Took a stab at it. See en:Image:British casualties at Le Cateaua.jpg. Low resolution image with .jpg artifacting. Couldn't work miracles but perhaps this is better. The Commons uploader is inactive but the original en:Wiki uploader was Kirill Lokshin. I've dropped a note at his talk page to see if we can find out who the photographer was. Durova 11:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Your RfB[edit]

It should be transcluded. Commons:Administrators/Requests and votes/Durova (RfB) is probably the place to move it to. giggy (:O) 02:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. :) 02:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I ended up moving it to Commons:Administrators/Requests and votes/Durova (bureaucrat) per precedent, don't worry about it. Good luck. :) giggy (:O) 02:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks very much (really laggy machine atm). Durova 02:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome...I think I finally got it somewhere I'm happy with, so now I can go and actually look at your work since the RfA! :) giggy (:O) 02:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Image restore[edit]

Hi. I have the original of this photo: Image:CusterCity1876front.jpg and the original is sharper than this scanned image. Is there anything you could do to improve it? RlevseTalk 12:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Adam Cuerden is a real expert at image scanning. He's written up a detailed guide to image scanning. My basic tips are to scan at as high a DPI as possible on a clean machine. When data is lost during the scanning itself, then there's a limited amount any restoration can do about it. Durova 16:18, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I'll have to find the best scanner I can get to. If I ever manage that, I'll get back to you. RlevseTalk 16:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Crochet—starting a chain.ogg[edit]

Take a look and let me know what you think. Bastique demandez 23:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Gorgeous! How'd you position the camera? Durova 00:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I put the camera on a stand and did the work in front of the camera. It was somewhat awkward and I don't have video editing software on my machine, just an ogg converter. Will work on improving my skills. Any criticism is also well received :) Bastique demandez 22:04, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Mary images[edit]

  • In her biography of Mary Shelley, Miranda Seymour throws doubt on this portrait of Mary Shelley, writing that the painting was not sold due to lack of insufficient authentication. She notes that it is labelled “Mary Shelley by Richard Rothwell”, but it is unlike Rothwell’s other paintings, and she speculates that it is by another artist. Although some similarities exist between the portrait and Richard Rothwell’s 1840 portrait of Mary Shelley, she presents no definitive evidence that this is a portrait of Mary Shelley. Neither Emily Sunstein nor William St. Clair mention this portrait in their biographies of Mary Shelley.
  • Seymour, Miranda. Mary Shelley. London: John Murray, 2000. ISBN 0719557119.
  • St Clair, William. The Godwins and the Shelleys: The Biography of a Family. London: Faber & Faber, 1989. ISBN 0571154220.
  • Sunstein, Emily W. Mary Shelley: Romance and Reality. 1989. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 1991. ISBN 0801842182.

Thanks so much for helping out with this. I am at my wits end! Awadewit 02:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the references. I've cited your diff in my deletion notes. For the record (if anyone else drops by and wonders), Awadewit had previously nominated these images for deletion, but had accidentally linked to the wrong page for the evidence discussion. This is a fairly serious scholarly matter about misattributed portraiture. Durova 07:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanx for the keep Bro[edit]

Thumbs up by Wakalani.jpg Peace and love.jpgCuteHappyBrute 04:43, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) Durova 06:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Considering the long backlog of DR, I wonder why you were in a hurry closing some requests in just five hours with not enough opinions (Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Mebeingstupidashell.JPG Commons:Deletion requests/Image:MefoArm.JPG)? Isn't Commons:Project scope a valid policy? Geraki TLG 14:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I was working on several recent nominations, not singling out those two in particular, and the reasoning provided by the respondant was solid. Durova 15:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The reasoning was:

  1. in use on his user page
  2. good contributor as far as I can tell
  3. Let's not try to alienate people

which of the three got above Commons:Project scope?

And a quick answer to all of this would be:

  1. as with every image he uploaded (how many can we keep?) "However, uploading images of yourself and others in small quantity is allowed as long as they are useful for some Wikimedia project" (COM:PS). It is not definitely not small quantity when he puts every image he uploaded on his user page.
  2. the fact that he uploads other good stuff is irrelevant of this and other images.
  3. this user already had an indefinite ban in english wikipedia (under another username) and blocked for one month in greek wikipedia, in less than 5 months since he registered. He will probably not have so many bad feelings just because his photos get deleted. Commons and Wikipedia are not for social networking, only the content matters.

Never mind, I will renominate this later. Geraki TLG 15:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Is there a preexisting conflict here? I notice CuteHappyBrute self-identifies as Greek and your native language is Greek, Geraki. Also I notice that since that closure you've nominated another of his uploads for deletion on similar grounds, even though it's adequately categorized and it's getting unanimous keep votes. It's somewhat unusual to receive a personal thanks for a closure or a complaint about the decision. If you're interested in project scope issues there are plenty of blurry and unrecognizable images that have been uploaded by other people and aren't in use anywhere; your zeal would do Commons a favor in that area. On the other hand, if he has been banned elsewhere it would be helpful to know his username. Banning from one project doesn't mean automatic banning from another, yet it can be helpful to know what kind of problems have arisen before. Durova 16:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I will get it clear. CuteHappyBrute is en:User:DefendEurope later en:User:CuteHappyBrute, el:User:ΣτυμφάλιοςΜινωίτης later el:User:CuteHappyBrute. He appeared in el.wikipedia after a ban he had in en.wikipedia, and one of the first things he've done was swearing against the en.wikipedia admins among his nationalistic polemic. After he got blocked he created another account (he verified himself as a sock puppet) and blocked again for violating his previous block. Because of his insistence of uploading Image:Tetraktys ani.gif, an image deleted as unsourced from en.wikipedia, tagged with {{attribution}} in el.wikipedia (el:Image:VerginaSun4Elements12GreekGods.gif) and tagged as gfdl and cc-by-sa-3.0 in Commons while he uploaded it himself in both places, and because of his actions and things he've said it was clear that he never took care to understand what wikipedia is and what are its policies, I checked his contributions here as he also uploaded some spoken greek wikipedia articles that we welcomed in el.wikipedia creating the wikiproject and templates for that, and I was interested on how he goes in the third project he joined after creating problems in the others. It is clear to me that we can have a good contributor if we manage to make him read and understand what we're doing. To me it seems that he uploaded some images just because he can, as he would do it in MySpace, for example Image:Mycutebrother.jpg is a clear studio photo which he couldn't create it 1988 (he is about 20 years old). Image:MeCrossDiveMykonos.JPG was uploaded as self-made and corrected when he understood that he cannot be the author when he appears in the picture [1].

But my complaint above is another thing: I just don't see a reason to close any RfD in just five hours without giving more people the chance to discuss. The above images were NOT nominated by me but I would agree on the deletion on the same grounds. You say that they are "adequately categorized and [it's] getting unanimous keep votes, but I would notice that it was one keep response to nominator's delete, that's not unanimous, that's 50%. On the other hand it has nothing to do with categorization: images don't get deleted just because they are uncategorised, and we should not keep images just because they appear in a category and a user page, that leaves an open window for almost everything to pass COM:PS (including those blurry and unrecognizable images you've said). Geraki TLG 17:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

In case you ask he was not blocked by me in el.wikipedia, but by two other admins. Of course I agree that this has nothing to do with commons, we use his own recordings but his images is another matter. Geraki TLG 17:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually that's a one month block on English Wikipedia, not an indefinite ban. We generally leave it to editor discretion to host a small number of pictures about himself or herself in user space. If that gets to the level of misusing the site as a personal photo album then that would be a different issue, and agree with the principle you express about that--I just don't see this as being excessive. Let's hope this discussion brings that concern to CuteHappyBrute's attention and he doesn't go overboard. Regarding the unanimous keep responses, I was referring to Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Mycutebrother.jpg, which you started after the previous nomination closed. If you'd like additional opinions I'd be glad to bring this to a noticeboard for wider feedback. The impression this situation gives me is that two editors who mix like oil and water might just be better off avoiding each other unless/until there's a serious problem. I'll be out for a few hours (on California time here) so it will be a little while before my next follow-up. Best wishes and I hope this works out. Durova 18:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


OK, I missed that because himself told us he had an indefinite ban. But you missed two points: I did not start any nomination after one closed, the one you are referring was the first nomination which is not closed yet [2]. (four nominated images: two by me and two by ShakataGaNai). I don't have any personal problem with this particular user, in fact I did not have any discussion with him except some advice he asked for on irc, my opinion about his images is just about his images (I guess ShakataGaNai has no personal problem either). Have a nice day! Geraki TLG 19:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I figured I'd put my 2 cents in since I've been watching this convo. As Geraki said, I have no problem with this user. I don't even know who they are. I just randomly stumbled across his user page with all the pictures there. The reason I didn't speedy these images out of existence is because I wanted to open a proper DR to see what others had to say about it. I've got nothing against lc2's opinion, in fact I think he's a good and level headed guy. Even still - I don't believe these DR's should have been closed yet. Actually, unless there is a pressing reason no to, I'm going to re-open them. --ShakataGaNai Talk 21:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
He's a good contributor here. Commons is made of people, and so I think a speedy keep was entirely justified. Anything that alienates people and jeopardises the community we have here is a very, very bad thing and should be dealt with swiftly. And technically (if you want to go all "blindly follow the wording of policies regardless of consequences" on me), they're not out of scope since most of them are in use on his user page.
As for his block elsewhere, we have plenty of other users that got blocked on other projects (hell, I've been blocked from here and nobody has gone around nominating my not-entirely-useful pictures for deletion). As long as they behave themselves here, we shouldn't care. It's none of our business.
Please don't re-open these deletion requests. Lewis Collard! (hai thar, wut u doin) 22:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me Lewis, but I didn't speak about the user until Durova asked me here, on the DRs I focused on the images. I make it clear again: he is a good contributor of sound recordings but these images do not belong here because no one will ever use them except himself. In response to "Commons is made of people" I will cite the following: "Wikipedia is first and foremost an effort to create and distribute a free encyclopedia of the highest possible quality to every single person on the planet in their own language. Asking whether the community comes before or after this goal is really asking the wrong question: the entire purpose of the community is precisely this goal." - Jimmy Wales [3]. You can paraphrase it to much Commons instead of Wikipedia but it is the same. If we forget the purpose of this project in order to keep some people happy, then there is no reason to keep policies and we can announce that this is a free playground (just tag your uploadings as cc-by to appear legitimate). When you say that "they're not out of scope since most of them are in use on his user page" when others don't agree on your interpretation this is a matter of discussion, because following that interpretation means that anyone can save an image from being deleted under COM:PS just by putting it in his user page, no matter of its usefulness. Geraki TLG 23:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I know the community is here for a purpose. My point was is that a community-based project will die if it treats good contributors as disposable (think about the English Wikipedia for a second, and how many good editors have left the project because of the drama there). Sure, his uploads might not have been all that useful, but are they really going to do more damage to the project than losing a good contributor would? Goodness, even if every good contributor uploaded a few pictures like this and plastered their user pages with them (and this isn't likely to happen any time soon), would we really have to prepare ourselves for the four horsemen of the Apocalypse?
If not, then cut him a little slack. And thank you in advance for keeping Commons a drama-free zone. Lewis Collard! (hai thar, wut u doin) 23:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not saying we should alienate anyone. But at the same time we have a DR process for a reason. I believe the picture should go, you believe the picture should stay. What should we do here? We should have a DR run for the normal course to see what OTHERS think - thats why its there. If the DR went for its full run and the majority said keep (or even a tie), I would have said to myself "Ok, people think this is worthy - great". But right now all we are doing is having an argument between two people about something we shouldn't have. I'm feeling more alienated by this than I'm sure CuteHappyBrute is. Also, Speedy keeps are all and well, if something is say DR'd for copyvio and it turns out it is not. But my concern was project scope - which is alot more subjective. Honestly, if this were my picture that someone was trying to delete - I'd want to see what the community says - that way I better understand. --ShakataGaNai Talk 00:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

All right; I apologize for the error in chronology. Regarding the merits of the case I'm willing to open an administrators' noticeboard thread for a review of the decision. If anyone would like me to do that, please write yes below this post. Durova 00:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

No, for the record. Lewis Collard! (hai thar, wut u doin) 00:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
No. Those were definitely speedy keeps. They are used and shouldn't even have been nominated in the first place. What's all this drama for? Rocket000 06:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Help needed with the Valued images project[edit]

As you may have seen, this project is going live for nominations on 1 June, 2008 at 0:00 UTC. Before then, there are a few things to be finished off, and any help you can give will be welcome. The latest discussion is at Commons talk:Valued images candidates#Open action items for Valued images.

When the project launches publicly on 1 June, it will need reviewers who are able to jump in quickly and provide prompt feedback. During those critical first few weeks it will be important to have a decent number of reviewers who are prepared to put in the effort to make sure the first nominations are well-reviewed, as that will set the standard for the future.

Would you help, please, with the final tasks now, and also pledge your help with some reviewing on 1 June and thereafter? --MichaelMaggs 17:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. I'll see what I can do. Durova 16:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

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Giggy's RfB[edit]

G'day

I just wanted to say a huge thanks for your support in my RfB. It just closed, and I'm now a bureaucrat. If you ever want to discuss any of my actions, as a 'crat, admin, or plain old user, please don't hesitate to leave a note on my talk page.

Cheers, giggy (:O) 10:37, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Ziggy Sawdust[edit]

Hi, I just saw your post on en:wp:ani re Ziggy. I have no idea what the backstory there is and no opinion on that user. It's a cool user name, though.

I don't believe we're really met anywhere, but I've seen a few interesting posts by you; read your Dark Side piece. I'm currently blocked on en:wp while the AC ruminates. Meanwhile, I'm quite active on a great many other projects. For example: jv:Astamiwa:Kontribusi pengguna/Jack Merridew, similar activity on id:wp. I have a fair number of users willing to mentor me, but they're on en; I see you're active on a number of projects that I am, here, simple:wp. Interested in mentoring me?

I've just today completed the last usurpation of impersonations of 'Jack Merridew'; I now have w:bs:User:Jack Merridew. With SUL now active, I expect to have several hundred accounts in a month or so. I'm good with code and find it quite easy to work on wikis in another language — focusing on markup and interwiki linking (ar:wp is a bit challenging, as is ml:wp).

Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Jack. I remember seeing your name around the time when things went down on en:Wiki, but mostly had my attention on other matters (I'm just one person y'know). Can I sound you off on an idea? One thing en:Wiki lacks is a clear path back to good standing for banned users. So some of us have been kicking around the idea of cross-wiki mentorship. The other projects complain that they get en:Wiki's problem children. So instead of just sending someone away there would be a place where banned users can go to seek a mentor in good standing on at least two projects who can give them guidance. If problems arise, the mentor would rein them in. If the banned editor does good work, then after a reasonable time the mentor would open an unban discussion on en:Wiki and work something out. Maybe at first an unblock with a topic ban, and then afterward a lifting of the topic ban if all goes well. This would depend on the banned editor generating good reasons for unbanning on the other project: productive work, getting along with people, generally fitting in. Basically once the mentor saw "Hey, this is working out. He gets it now." and shows why, the community would have reason to rethink the ban.
It's a lot to ask of a mentor, because every single time that mentor puts his or her reputation on the line at both places. If a few instances really go haywire, this could unravel. But if it works out it could be a clear and legitimate route back. I'd like your thoughts. Best wishes, Durova 18:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Terima kasih (thank you in Bahasa Indonesia; FYI, my real name is David). I am 'indefinitely blocked' — the only characterization of me as 'banned' was by a then-ex-arb, who blocked an account of mine, on an old case talk page RFAR.[4] There are quite a number of admins who supported unblocking me here: w:en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive142#Jack Merridew. The whole issue is back in the en:AC's lap where discussions move slowly. My block is due to my past use of multiple accounts and my noticing problematic edits and biases by another user over time. I have apologized to the AC for the abuse of multiple accounts and evading past rulings and have promised that it will not happen again.
Dmcdevit's edit was to RFAR and the section was later moved to a case talk page. Jack Merridew 07:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I actually believe that a good number of the editors who end up banned should remain so. Of course there are exceptions (waves hand in air), and a route back should be open to those who can make a case that they're contributing positively. I can see that other projects might be concerned about an influx of problem users from the 800-pound gorilla that is en:wp, but my reception on other projects has been quite favorable. Did you click that link? As I see it, en:wp is a 'mature' project where serious issues concerning the scalability of the wiki-concept have manifested; the smaller projects have nowhere near the number of tendentious editors and dialogue is genuinely civil. I'm sure that all of the projects have many blocked accounts; mostly vandals. The issue you are proposing addressing with a cross-wiki mentorship system is inherently an en:wp issue; it is the 'mature' wiki that has by far the most blocked editors (and I mean as a proportion of total editors, but I'm OR'ing here as I don't have stats). It is a project that needs to do a bit of navel-gazing as to just why the quality of discourse is what it is today.
I believe I have made a great many positive contributions with every account I have ever used on the WMF projects. See here for the primary accounts and the AC cases, my matrix for a rather larger list of accounts, and this list for every 'Jack Merridew' account I have on WMF projects. In this edit from last week, for example, I cleaned up a page on the Javanese Wikipedia. I have cleaned up something like a hundred pages there in a similar manner. If you look carefully at the left and right sides of that edit, you'll see that there are quite a few issues addressed in the single edit. Note that towards the end I added a navigation box; one, of many, that I reworked. Here, on the Indonesian Wikipedia, I tweaked a page to use the commons version of a locator image; one of dozens of such edits — and there are thousands of such edits that need doing. These are recent edits, but I could dig up a great many such edits from far in the past on any of the accounts I've done a significant amount of editing with. If you look for yourself, you'll find good stuff.
So, your response is primarily about the mentorship idea. It is needed, and I think I would be a fine candidate; I have a long history of good work and I am always civil — even with editors I have serious concerns about. Accepting a role as mentor for someone is a risky proposition for another editor. In cases where things don't work out (i.e. the block remains and is possibly expanded to wherever else), the mentor might take a credibility hit re their judgment. However, most of the ordure would adhere to the problem child and the wise will see the mentorship attempt as a good faith effort. My en:block has been the impetus for my exploring the gamut of other WMF projects; it has given me a much better meta-view of things. I certainly expect to return to en:wp, but I don't intend to lose interest in the other projects. You mention returns to en:wp 'after a reasonable time' and I see two sides to that. You want to avoid someone gaming the mentorship issue by feigning good behavior, which is fine. However, time frames on the order of a year are merely a dodge of the view the blocks are preventative and not punitive. In certain cultures that imprison high proportions of their population, punitive is the norm, and editors from such cultures often never transcend their cultural biases.
As I see it, my block has an air of punitiveness about it. The whole issue of my block is entangled with my views on the inclusion of non-notable content; i.e. what Wikipedia is. In the TV E&C cases, the AC was presented with 'evidence' concerning me and a proposal in the second case to include me as a party. They found no fault with my actions. Once the TV E&C issue went to AC the first time, I largely disengaged from the TV articles. I did participate extensively on the workshop pages. When the issue of my multiple accounts and block was being discussed, something like half the proponents of blocking me forever were participants from the TV E&C cases who were on the arch-inclusionist side of the issue. I see this as a case of w:WP:BATTLEGROUND. There were many arguments along the lines of banning me from fiction articles and AFD despite the fact that no fault was found in those cases. Such arguments are merely attempts to exploit the situation to advance an unrelated agenda. Please note that I am fine with terms of parole that reasonably center on the actual issues upon which the block is based.
As to immediate mentorship issues, I see a need to move a lot of images like locator maps and coats of arms from wikis like id:wp, jv:wp, su:wp and map-bms:wp to commons. These issues surely apply to many other wikis, too, but I rather expect that systemic bias has resulted in far more of this sort of activity having occurred for the big western wikis and not for those on the short end of the bias-stick. I've done some of this, but am on unfamiliar ground and could use guidance with this sort of endeavor. Also, if you track down some of my early involvement, as w:User:Davenbelle, in w:Wikipedia:Wikiproject Countries you find that I rather view things like coats of arms as medieval authority cruft that has been foisted upon much of the rest of the world. Indonesians are very enamored with such symbols and making a case that such things are not the best use of screen real estate in an infobox would be a hard sell with them; so they should go to commons as they are all PD per Indonesian law.
I apologize for the length of this post; some of this is stuff I would rather present in an en:wp discussion. I do appreciate your considering my case and thank you for taking the time.
Cheers, Jack Merridew 13:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, I'm willing to give this a go. As you might have guessed, this week has been pretty busy for me. :) Touch bases when you need to and we'll play this by ear. Best wishes, Durova (talk) 04:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Ya, I figured you were busy/resting. Wiki-drama often necessitates breaks. It helps to live in a relaxed place. Lately I've been mostly on the id:wp; it's the primary one for Indonesia; the others are for indigenous language (Bahasa Indonesian is a re-worked form of Malay created to foist a sense of national identity on disparate peoples). There are over 600 indigenous languages in just Papua (none has a wiki).
Could you peek at Image:Locator Kabupaten Kulon Progo.png which I transfered from id:wp last week and let me know if I did thing properly? It's been deleted [5] there now after I tagged it with 'NowCommons'. There are thousand of these (including the coats of arms) that should be done and there are many missing from the local wikis. I guess the norm is to use English names for stuff, but I'd like input before I do too many of them. I'd also like to know if there's a better way to do this than one at a time and if I can do it by pasting in an id:wp url rather than downloading and re-uploading the images (the internet is alway slow here and the tourists on Skype sure don't help. I change the WEP code sometimes to run'em off). I just noticed that a bunch of id:Indonesian provinces got moved to new names sans-'Provinci' - which messes with a lot of things I've been working on. Amongst other things, I bypassed the former redirects and the moves mean they have to be undone. Wasting vast amounts of time time and bandwidth is intrinsic to the wiki-concept. Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

'stalking'[edit]

You will likely have seen some of the above. You should.

I have always felt that the term 'stalking' is often grossly misapplied. See;

My issues with you-know-who have nothing to do with seeking his identity or showing up at his door. I could care less who he is. What I care about is his biased editing agenda to advance a POV.

Beyond my case being caught-up with the back-door content decision re extensive coverage of non-notable crap on en:wp, I feel that it is seen as politically unpalatable to unblock a 'stalker'. So, a clearer definition of 'stalking' is needed (i.e. it's Bardo-behavior) as is clarity on just who the 'victims of stalking' are (NYBrad, Shankbone). Also needed is a much harsher view of falsely 'crying rape stalker'. It is a cheat, a way to demonize someone who is critical of another editor and change the subject. Inappropriately applied, it is akin to slander and defamation of character.

The feline has a statement of intent to file another RFAR re myself on his en:talk page and a more recent such assertion was made to Anthony (who was asked to file it a la Tony previously). Maybe this is the best route; air everything and sort it properly.

Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:48, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for checking in. I'm addressing some backlog. Touching bases to let you know you're not forgotten. Best wishes, Durova (talk) 07:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Better than a 1000 edits to id:wp in the last month... Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Valued image promotion[edit]

Racistcampaignposter1.jpg
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Congratulations! The image you uploaded was reviewed and has now been promoted as a valued image. It is considered to be the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Racist posters from the 19th century .

Dear Durova, congratulations with your first VI! -- Slaunger 19:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Learned Hand urn-3 HLS.Libr 1148132a.jpg
An image you uploaded has been reviewed and promoted
Congratulations! The image you uploaded was reviewed and has now been promoted as a valued image. It is considered to be the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Judge Learned Hand .

...and another nice one... -- Slaunger 21:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :) Durova 03:41, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

WTF am I doing here?[edit]

I have no idea why I am here, but being that you asked me to come, I accepted the offer.

Besides uploading some wonderful parody pictures of my nemeses Wikipedians or Troll David just for fun, I have no idea why I am here.

Would you care to elaborate a bit? Igorberger (talk) 00:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Well at least if I get blocked here for disruptive editing, it will be my friend doing it. ;-) Igorberger (talk) 01:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Heyas, welcome. :) This site is the main image repository for all of the Wikimedia Foundation projects. Surf around a little to get a feel for the place. It's a lot more laid back here. The main thing is that all material needs to be under a free license.
When you're ready to upload, either use material you already own or material from an appropriate archive. The Library of Congress is one site I often use.[6] The "upload file" link at the far left of your screen will get you started. Come ask me if you have any questions. :) Cheers, Durova (talk) 06:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Miss Durova, thank you for the welcome matt, a bit better than the stick I got when I first joined Wikipedia.org LOL. Let's try a little Ward Cunningham and the WikiWiki Dance! Please join me on Human Rights Activism for Emisteve You can also build this Wikipedia article Emistive And you can find some relative updates in Igor The Troll Social Media Friend Feed room on conserned thread Igor The Troll Human Rights Activism for Emisteve Cheers, Igorberger (talk) 07:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Whew, and I'm backlogged already... :) Durova (talk) 07:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I almost forgot. I welcome Wikipedians to join the Wikipedia Roundtable room on Friend Feed Which I and Durova administer, where Wikipedians and Social Media people can discuss Wikipedia matters in the public forum. David is also welcome, even though he is a bit if a snob. lol Igorberger (talk) 08:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


Image Tagging Image:JetBlue292Landing3.jpg[edit]

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Thanks for uploading Image:JetBlue292Landing3.jpg. This image is missing permission information. A source is given, but there is no proof that the author or copyright holder agreed to license the file under the given license. Please provide a link to an appropriate webpage with license information, or send an email with copy of a written permission to OTRS (permissions-commons@wikimedia.org).

Unless the permission information is given, the image may be speedy deleted after seven days. Thank you. ShakataGaNai ^_^ 06:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

This was an edit on a featured picture candidate. I'll follow whatever lead the primary uploader decides upon. Thanks for the heads-up. Durova (talk) 07:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Lambang, Kabupaten and Kecamatan, oh my![edit]

and

Could you please review what I've begun re transferring images from id:wp and jv:wp to commons? First, please delete the first two above with the shorter names; I realized after I had begun that it would be better to be more specific as there are typically subdistricts (kecamatan) with the same name as the district (Regency/Kapupaten), so at some point we'll have;

Oh, 'lambang' is 'Symbol', typically a 'Coat of Arms' or 'Seal' of some sort; mostly they're mythological characters and palm leaves rather than swords and shields.

I have hooked these up to pages and templates on id:wp and jv:wp and marked the id:image with 'NowCommons'; the image on jv:wp perked-up and sort of auto-tagged itself, which I found interesting, but also disconcerting. On id:wp, the image page noticed the duplicate, but didn't get quite so automatic about things. I guess I back-linked properly.

This whole process has be to simpler; there are 33 provinces in Indonesia, 95 major cities, and 370 Kapupaten and they all have a lambang and need locator maps. Then there're the more than 5,000 kecamatan, each of which has about a dozen kampungs (villages). Oh, and Indonesia has the Javanese, Sundanese, and Banyumasan (map-bms:Main page) language wikis, too. Fourth most populous country in the world; 17,000 islands (18,000 at low tide).

Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

p.s. w:Buleleng, is most of the north coast of w:Bali; better articles at w:id:Kabupaten Buleleng and jv:Kabupatèn Bulèlèng

Delete and move to Wikipedia?[edit]

I believe Image:MaryShelley.jpg.jpeg should be deleted from the Commons and placed on Wikipedia because it is an altered image. It appears to be a cropped version of the Rothwell portrait from the National Gallery (linked on the image description page). Is this correct? Just trying to learn all of this stuff! Awadewit (talk) 17:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

We don't necessarily move images because they've been altered. What we do is link to the original image version and state what changes have been made. Durova (talk) 15:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
So saying it is cropped is sufficient? The whole derivative work thing doesn't apply here? Awadewit (talk) 19:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:SantaRave.jpg[edit]

Just curious if you are hard-of-seeing or just totally blind.. because you deletion summary for this image said Missing essential information: source, license and/or permission, which is entirely incorrect.. the image had source and license. The additional part of your deletion summary, personality rights issue: indoor photograph, no model permission. Possible underage alcohol consumption also, is far reaching and could apply to thousands of images already found on Commons. I'd suggest you restore the image based on the facts alone that you apparently just didn't see the source and license - because they were there in plain black and white. Otherwise, point me in the direction of Deletion Review. Thanks. ALLSTAR echo 08:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Please see Commons:Photographs of identifiable people. I saw the license and the source was fine, but it was lacking permission. Yes, probably a good deal of other images do need deletion on that basis. I gave this one priority attention because he was also holding a cocktail in his hand and may have been underage. Durova (talk) 17:33, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Comrade Durova , while the previous commenter may not have put it terribly nicely, I'll ratify their point. Judging by the description of the photo, I have to presume that the photo in question was taken at a party at which multiple persons were present. It doesn't strike me as a clear violation of the subject's personalty rights to host the image. Perhaps it is worth restoring the photo so that it can be considered by a number of editors exceeding one? I'm here infrequently, but I'll make an effort keep an eye on this discussion. Nonetheless, feel free to get my attention at en:User talk:Ssbohio, my usual hangout. --Ssbohio (talk) 18:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Actually, according to the Commons on permissions, private parties are specifically stated as an example of situations where model permission is required. Over on en:wikipedia I subsequently offered to blur the subject's face and restore the image. I hope that's acceptable; if there's any serious concern over my decision I'd be glad to open it for wider discussion. Respectfully, Durova (talk) 19:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Plagiarism.jpg[edit]

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I see you're having a lovely chat with the usual suspects[edit]

Just read your thread with The Cat, Tony's latest pseudo-sock, and Moreschi and I'm sure I don't need to say whom I believe spoke best there (and I'm excluding you, as you're trying to, pun noted, cool things). I've also been reading FT2's rather lengthy posts and largely like what I'm seeing. I have not quite worked out just what Orange Marlin has been up to — I actually don't care much. The reforms FT2 and whomever else are pitching are far more interesting.

One thing about being blocked that I've learned is that it takes you out of the loop; when not editing a project one stops paying attention as much. This also makes the cock-ups all the sillier as they only make sense to those who've been right in it all along.

Something like 2,000 edits to id:wp and jv:wp and counting; would still like input on the stuff I'm importing to commons from those projects and the various .go.id sites. I'm also working on the Sundanese, Malay and Banyumasan wikis… Cheers, Jack Merridew 06:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

p.s. Jimmy Hoffa is buried under the grassy knoll in Dallas. Cheers, Jack Merridew 06:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Still active?[edit]

Durova

Is User:Durova/Encyclopedic image restoration still active? WilyD 19:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

The offer still stands although I haven't gotten requests in a while. Do you have something particular in mind? Durova (talk) 17:19, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
About a week before I asked this, I listed a pair of images there (not that I'm greedy and asking for both, but one or the other would be nice). Since nothing happened for a week, I just figured I should ask and see if I was likely to see any response. I realise commons has a slow pace compared to say, enwiki, and that's not really indicative of anything, but I was just curious. Thanks, WilyD 13:18, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Ah, gotcha. Sure, I'll take a look. :) Durova (talk) 18:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. I'll appreciate whatever can be done. Cheers, WilyD 19:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Single User Login!![edit]

And I was already established here before SUL! (Barely) Franamax is a poopoo head! Franamax (talk) 08:25, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Help needed[edit]

Hi, I´m user:Huldra on en.WP ....but as that username was already taken here, I became "TheRealHuldra" instead... Anyway; I have just registrered here, and I am really clueless...And since you were so nice and helped me over at "Palestinian costumes", I hope I could ask for your help, here, too?

I´m trying to upload images were some will, eventually, hopefully go into the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawfiq_Canaan and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karimeh_Abbud pages. I have started with Canaan, and I intended to upload a small pamphlet of his (22 pages). (There is a LOT of interesting history in those pages, and it is a bit difficult to translate all to text-file because of all of the foreign letters) ...Anyway; there is my first problem: for some reason some of the files are uploaded upside-down! I have no idea why, see e.g http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Canaan.6.jpg and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Canaan.4.jpg. Do you know why? And is it something you could fix? I am not sure if I have put the right "copy-right" on it, either, but it has been accepted at gutenberg.org, so I assume it is ok. Anyway, thank you in advance! Regards from a "technically challenged" TheRealHuldra (talk) 22:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Yep, the PD status should be verifiable through a link to Gutenberg.org. Not sure why the orientation worked out that way. Suggest you do a vertical flip and reload. Durova (talk) 23:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:The Big Duck on NY 24.jpg[edit]

I need this deleted per it is a copyright violation. It would be good if it can be deleted immediately. I uploaded it and have now found out that I can't. Thanks!Mitch32contribs 00:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, done. :) Durova (talk) 09:05, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Request[edit]

Hi Durova, I saw all of the great restored images you produced and I was wondering if you could make your magic work on one of my images. The picture is not for use on Wikipedia, but there is a story behind it. The second person on the right is an old colleague of my grandmother's. She was Jewish and subsequently murdered during the second world war. I want to sent this picture to Yad Vashem, so she wil never be forgotten. A company already scanned the image for me, but I was hoping someone could improve the quality of the image. I hope to hear from you soon. Kind regards, Massimo

Picture: http://massimo.catarinella.nl/Rembrandtplein.tif

Done. :) Durova (talk) 18:44, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Valued image candidates/The Great Wave off Kanagawa.jpg[edit]

Hi Durova,

I have run into problems (with my own lack of competences) in a VI review. I was wondering is the subject matter is something you happen to know something about, or could give a qualified feedback on? -- Slaunger (talk) 20:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up. I've given my opinion. Best wishes, Durova (talk) 21:43, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome! Thank you for scrutinizing the nominated image. -- Slaunger (talk) 20:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

We really need to work on us :-)[edit]

A flower for you from Sweet Bottom Farm

I'm really sorry about the whole completely misunderstanding you thing, and the stress and worry it's caused you. I'd really like to talk to you about it... could we maybe play a game of "interpret the other person's email" to figure out why this happened? I'll start first by interpreting your last one to me as actually meaning: "You've really made me angry, and I need an apology before I'm willing to tell you how to do better next time."

This all really sucks. Our mutual friends are having a hard time understanding why we're not friends, and I'm kinda feeling the same way. Absolutely no hurry if you'd rather wait a while :-). --SB_Johnny talk 20:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the olive branch. I'm partial to Skype, if you don't mind? The sound of another person's voice sometimes conveys nuances that get lost in text, and it seems like considerable nuance has been lost on both sides. E-mail me for my Skype name, and best wishes. Durova ( ) 09:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks[edit]

Contratulations! :) Durova ( ) 16:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

FYI[edit]

About the circumcision images by Emilfaro. rootology (T) 23:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

FP promotion[edit]

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Benh (talk) 09:43, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

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Congrats ! Benh (talk) 10:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Durova (talk) 10:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

A question[edit]

Hi Durova,
as of recommendation by Alison, I would like to have your opinion on this Image:179802599 f3e8bc8853 b.jpg. In addition to being uploaded by a problematic uploader[7], the image violates the personality rights of the depicted woman, IMHO. As I might be too sensitive or have my own bias, I would like to hear anothers' opinion. You will find the rfd here. Thanks. --Túrelio (talk) 21:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for coming to me. If this comes under the heading of "wardrobe malfunction" then I could agree there's a problem. As it is, what I see is an athlete wearing the standard competition apparel for a sport, plus a bandage. Perhaps an especially immature viewer might snicker, but the athlete herself was comfortable enough with it to appear at a public competition this way. Unless the bandage was meant to fasten somewhere else and was slipping at that moment, in which case that would shed a different light on things. Durova (talk) 22:19, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Valued image candidates/Great Wave unrestored.jpg[edit]

I added your alternative unedited version as a competing candidate. You can vote on it if you feel like. -- Slaunger (talk) 21:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Durova (talk) 23:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the protection but...[edit]

Thanks for the protection but it wasn't that big of a deal to me or else I would have reported it. -- carol (talk) 06:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you'd rather not have the protection I'd be glad to remove it. It's your call. Best wishes, Durova (talk) 06:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of talk header[edit]

i copied this from wikipedia, but I now realize that I made a mistake. Can you delete this page, please? - Template:Talkheader? Thanks. --Meldshal42? 16:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, done. Durova (talk) 18:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Jimbo Ravana.jpg[edit]

Love it :-). --SB_Johnny talk 22:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) Durova (talk) 22:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


Image:Lucyreconstruction.jpg[edit]

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When you're right, you're right. Durova (talk) 02:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks[edit]

Copyvio uploads[edit]

Hi Durova. The image uploads have resumed, with Speaking Fish reuploading images that were deleted yesterday. [8] Nobody of Consequence (talk) 15:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, the editor has been pointed to OTRS. Please follow up at the admin noticeboard if there are additional problems. Looks like there may be a well-meaning gap in language and license understanding. Best wishes, Durova (talk) 21:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Stunt Pyrotechnics Luc Viatour.jpg (answer)[edit]

I would be happy that you present this image in: wiki. Thank you for your help:) --Luc Viatour (talk) 04:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

A very big thank you for your help :)--Luc Viatour (talk) 20:02, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Anytime. Please feel welcome to suggest others. I can read a bit of French if it's hard to choose the right English words. Best wishes and thank you for your talents and hard work. Durova (talk) 20:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

FP Promotion[edit]

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Benh (talk) 17:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Durova (talk) 18:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Valued Image Promotion[edit]

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FP promotion[edit]

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--Simonizer (talk) 16:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Central eskimo dist.jpg[edit]

I'm not used to adding pictures that I didn't take. So if you have the time could you look at the above image and make sure I did everything correctly. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather Talk 07:32, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Tough question, actually. It looks like you acted in good faith and documented everything appropriately. It also looks like the image file itself is a scan from a book that is probably not under copyleft. Suggest writing to the webmaster and asking about its status. My guess is that either the copyright on their source has expired (in which case it's public domain) or else it's probably a book under full copyright (in which case, sadly, we won't be able to host it at Commons but you might transwiki to en:wiki with a fair use rationale). Best wishes and thanks very much for your efforts! :) Durova (talk) 08:03, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I really didn't expect an answer that quick. I've emailed the webmaster and I'll let you know what he says. CambridgeBayWeather Talk 09:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Well it turns out that the webmaster was unsure so he contacted the professor in charge of the project. It turns out that they are not sure of which images and, by the looks of, which text is under copyright. Not only that but he was unaware of the CC3 license at the bottom of the page, it comes with the software. I tagged the image for deletion. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather Talk 21:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

FP promotion[edit]

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--Simonizer (talk) 08:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Durova (talk) 17:10, 26 August 2008 (UTC)