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Please be patient as I might be off the net or need to stay focused on other matters, and would find it tricky to keep an eye on messages. I normally reply within a day and I will be notified by email if this page changes.
If you wish to contact me about something other than Wikimedia Commons, or any matter of a confidential or private nature (such as an OTRS ticket or LGBT+ related business), or would like to nudge me about something I've forgotten to do, please use this link to email me.

Shortly after Wikimedia UK refused my membership of the UK charity (globally, I am the only person this has ever happened to), I have been kicked out of OTRS as a volunteer with no clear reason other than no longer being a member of my local chapter. Consequently I am unable to help others on Commons with OTRS tickets any more. I started helping with OTRS in 2010 and understand it well, helping to lead a training workshop in 2012, which has since turned out to be the only 'official' workshop for volunteers. Should anyone want advice on the nature of their personal liability risk, or how it is neither a secure nor confidential system, I would be happy to advise based on my direct experience as a volunteer over the last 4 years.


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  1. Monitor Commons:Requests for comment/Batch categorization requirements
  2. Repair Geograph templates in line with WSC's suggestions #Geograph problem raised: Nov 2012
  3. Consider WSC's request on under-categorized images #Nuther Geograph problem raised: Nov 2012
  4. LACMA M.2007.224.4 seems to be wrong at source.
  5. RFC on D codes (based on a dream).
  6. Explore http://curtis.library.northwestern.edu/curtis/weblinks.html as a possible source
  7. Chisel away at the list on Category talk:Images from USC Digital Library uploaded by Fæ (check needed)
  8. Library of Congress 100mb+ files
    1. An ocean of motion about Spanish commotions or the windy explosion of pot-hous oration LCCN2003681692 105MB Done
    2. Consular games - the game of brag - the game of hazard LCCN2003689149 113MB Done
    3. The eclipse at an end - and political tilting discovered LCCN2003689150 100MB Done
    4. http://lccn.loc.gov/2003689153 101MB
    5. http://lccn.loc.gov/2003689154 100MB
    6. The washing-tub expedition LCCN2003689156 115MB
    7. St. James's volunteers firing at a target at Kilburn Wells LCCN2003689161 140MB Done
    8. The father of the family takeing (sic) his eldest boy from school LCCN2006675448 TIFF (168.4mb)
    9. The dextrous trimmer or Pool Pill Garlick left in the suds LCCN2006676836 TIFF (118.0mb)
    10. Hell in triumph or The devil has got his own LCCN2006677045 TIFF (119.7mb)
    11. Fox's martyrs or The patriots in limbo LCCN2006678061 TIFF (183.9mb)
    12. John Bull fighting the French single handed LCCN2006678160 TIFF (110.8mb)
    13. King Joe disposing of his Spanish crown !!! LCCN2006678169 TIFF (113.4mb)
    14. Puck's palete LCCN2011660542 TIFF (141.1mb)
    15. A " bogus" cremation for the benefit of the "life-long Democrats" LCCN2011661357 TIFF (143.3mb)
    16. Thanksgiving day, 1885 LCCN2011661359 TIFF (142.5mb)
    17. The carol of the "waits" LCCN2011661367 TIFF (143.4mb)
    18. The old and the new year LCCN2011661369 TIFF (138.6mb)
    19. City flowers LCCN2011661371 TIFF (139.7mb)
    20. Our Japanese village LCCN2011661373 TIFF (139.7mb)
    21. Snowed in LCCN2011661375 TIFF (143.4mb)
    22. The angel of peace LCCN2011661377 TIFF (143.9mb)
    23. The Administration sawmill LCCN2011661379 TIFF (138.5mb)
    24. The one man power in our jury system LCCN2011661381 TIFF (143.0mb)
    25. Don't they wish they had never taken hold of it! LCCN2011661383 TIFF (137.4mb)
    26. The pirate publisher - an international burlesque that has has the longest run on record LCCN2011661385 TIFF (141.8mb)
    27. Cleveland's entry into Washington - March 4th. 1885 LCCN2011661387 TIFF (142.4mb)
    28. President Cleveland and his cabinet LCCN2011661426 TIFF (134.5mb)
    29. History repeats itself LCCN2011661430 TIFF (144.4mb)
    30. U.S. Grant LCCN2011661433 TIFF (141.7mb)
    31. The night mare LCCN2006678665 TIFF (140.2mb)
    32. The attack on our outer ramparts - first the house of refuge - then the public schools - then - the Constitution! LCCN2011661440 TIFF (143.7mb)
    33. "Peace" assured LCCN2011661446 TIFF (146.5mb)
    34. A view in Spain LCCN2006678817 TIFF (127.4mb)
    35. "Sheol" LCCN2011661750 TIFF (141.3mb)
    36. Two political paths LCCN2011661754 TIFF (140.9mb)
    37. Scientists assert that all diseases can be prevented by inoculation LCCN2011661758 TIFF (144.3mb)
    38. Harmony and envy LCCN2011661762 TIFF (141.7mb)
    39. The administration's hardest job LCCN2011661766 TIFF (143.5mb)
    40. In memoriam U.S. Grant LCCN2011661768 TIFF (140.2mb)
    41. Puck's political hunting-ground - how he has made game of the politicians LCCN2011661812 TIFF (141.7mb)
    42. Puck's notion of the kind of fancy-dress charity ball that would be a real, solid financial success LCCN2011661816 TIFF (141.1mb)
    43. This is what the "freedom of worship" bill means - can we hold the evil in check? LCCN2011661820 TIFF (141.6mb)
    44. Noxious growths in liberty's grounds LCCN2011661824 TIFF (141.7mb)
    45. The pyrrhic victory of the Mulligan guards in Maine LCCN2011661828 TIFF (147.4mb)
    46. A hard pull LCCN2011661832 TIFF (141.4mb)
    47. Hell broke loose, or, The murder of Louis, vide, the account of that unfortunate monarch's execution LCCN2006680657 TIFF (153.5mb)
    48. The false "friend of the workingman" LCCN2011661836 TIFF (142.3mb)
    49. Helping the rascals in - a burglarious scheme that may be suddenly spoiled LCCN2011661838 TIFF (144.7mb)
    50. Men may come, and men may go; but the work of reform shall go on forever LCCN2011661843 TIFF (141.0mb)
    51. "The Mulligan guard lies, but - surrenders" LCCN2011661847 TIFF (143.8mb)
    52. The transfusion of blood - may the operation prove a success! LCCN2012645151 TIFF (144.8mb)
    53. The World's International and Cotton Centennial Exposition, New Orleans, La., open from Dec. 1st 1884 to May 31st 1885 LCCN2012645153 TIFF (142.2mb)
    54. Crowding the cabinet-making business LCCN2012645155 TIFF (143.0mb)
    55. Puck's review of the past year LCCN2012645159 TIFF (141.1mb)
    56. Preserve your forests from destruction, and protect your country from floods and drought LCCN2012645164 TIFF (140.3mb)
    57. The contest of beauty LCCN2012645168 TIFF (139.9mb)
    58. Arlequin sur l'Hippogryphe a la croisade Lojoliste LCCN2006681091 TIFF (184.6mb)
    59. Het lusthuys van Pater Peters, en de Jesuwijten en Munniken, ontdekt door LCCN2006681092 TIFF (176.8mb)
    60. Passing everything on the road LCCN2012645172 TIFF (142.1mb)
    61. A desperate attempt to solve the mormon question LCCN2012645174 TIFF (140.8mb)
    62. A lenten dream LCCN2012645182 TIFF (143.6mb)
    63. Leap-year LCCN2012645186 TIFF (142.9mb)
    64. Democracy's disastrous egg-dance LCCN2012645191 TIFF (141.8mb)
    65. Blaine O'Maine LCCN2012645195 TIFF (139.8mb)
    66. Boney at Bayonne blowing a Spanish bubble LCCN2006681466 TIFF (117.7mb)
    67. Boney bringing home the truth from Spain LCCN2006681467 TIFF (113.7mb)
    68. Two of a kind LCCN2012645199 TIFF (147.0mb)
    69. A Spanish joke !!! LCCN2006681484 TIFF (112.4mb)
    70. More than she can carry LCCN2012645201 TIFF (143.1mb)
    71. An unpleasant ride through the presidential "haunted forest" LCCN2012645205 TIFF (144.6mb)
    72. The writing on the wall LCCN2012645210 TIFF (141.2mb)
    73. "A sail! A sail!!" LCCN2012645216 TIFF (145.3mb)
    74. A flag the Independents will fight under LCCN2012645250 TIFF (147.0mb)
    75. He can't beat his own record LCCN2012645419 TIFF (143.9mb)
    76. Raising the funds to buy the presidency LCCN2012645430 TIFF (141.8mb)
    77. The new Democratic eucalyptus tree purifies a political morass LCCN2012645434 TIFF (145.0mb)
    78. The universal church of the future - from the present religious outlook LCCN2012645438 TIFF (138.5mb)
    79. The great floods of 1883 - Germany's need and America's aid LCCN2012645440 TIFF (139.2mb)
    80. Our imitative "aristocracy" LCCN2012645446 TIFF (138.2mb)
    81. The end of a bad show LCCN2012645452 TIFF (137.5mb)
    82. "Take the next car!" LCCN2012645454 TIFF (139.2mb)
    83. The U.S. Hotel badly needs a "bouncer" LCCN2012645460 TIFF (138.0mb)
    84. The great advertising ball of the season LCCN2012645462 TIFF (138.3mb)
    85. Democratic harmony under the Jeffersonian banner LCCN2012645468 TIFF (140.4mb)
    86. The greatest show on earth - "who can ride the mule?" LCCN2012645470 TIFF (141.6mb)
    87. Life's ups-and-downs - Puck's improvement on Cole's "Voyage of Life" LCCN2012645495 TIFF (139.9mb)
    88. The operatic war in New York LCCN2012645537 TIFF (136.0mb)
    89. Let us have a good bankruptcy law, as a protection against the "preferred creditor" swindle LCCN2012645556 TIFF (134.6mb)
    90. Thanksgiving LCCN2012645611 TIFF (135.1mb)
    91. How to keep a girl LCCN2012645613 TIFF (135.8mb)
    92. Christmas at Washington LCCN2012645617 TIFF (140.3mb)
    93. The convention makers LCCN2006684142 TIFF (104.3mb)
    94. Reason against unreason LCCN2012645621 TIFF (127.5mb)
    95. Licensed wreckers - in the hands of the receivers LCCN2012645631 TIFF (126.3mb)
    96. Under false colors LCCN2012645633 TIFF (126.9mb)
    97. Rushing the season LCCN2012645638 TIFF (128.4mb)
    98. The declaration of dependence LCCN2012645642 TIFF (127.7mb)
    99. Longfellow LCCN2012647200 TIFF (128.4mb)
    100. Beyond control LCCN2012647204 TIFF (129.9mb)
    101. Speaker Keifer's kaleidoscopic speech, at the N.Y. Chamber of Commerce banquet, held at Delmonico's, May 9th, 1882 LCCN2012647206 TIFF (130.2mb)
    102. Science, or sport? - A modern spectacle after an old model LCCN2012647208 TIFF (129.3mb)
    103. True reform of Parliament,-i.e.-patriots lighting a revolutionary-bonfire in new Palace Yard LCCN2006684995 TIFF (105.2mb)
    104. First annual picnic of the "Knights of Labor" - more fun for the spectators than for the performers LCCN2012647217 TIFF (133.2mb)
    105. The murderer's straight route to heaven - bringing religion into disrepute LCCN2012647219 TIFF (130.9mb)
    106. Venison & Claret, or Sr. Humpy. Haunch, Bart. of Glutton Hall LCCN2006685173 TIFF (118.8mb)
    107. Roast beef & port or Bully Bramble Esqr., Justice of Peace in Wasp Town LCCN2006685175 TIFF (115.3mb)
    108. A summer smoke-cloud LCCN2012647234 TIFF (131.7mb)
    109. Congressional cracksmen LCCN2012647268 TIFF (124.6mb)
    110. Uncle Sam's neglected farm LCCN2012647270 TIFF (127.7mb)
    111. The deadly upas tree of Wall Street LCCN2012647280 TIFF (127.2mb)
    112. Cut-throat business in Wall Street. How the inexperienced lose their heads LCCN2012647282 TIFF (126.4mb)
    113. Garfield LCCN2012647283 TIFF (129.7mb)
    114. Our Indian policy - a house of cards LCCN2012647285 TIFF (128.8mb)
    115. A grand Shakesperian (sic) revival LCCN2012647290 TIFF (130.5mb)
    116. Puck's own Yorktown celebration LCCN2012647294 TIFF (128.6mb)
    117. "Sic 'em!" LCCN2012647297 TIFF (128.0mb)
    118. Escaping from the old shell LCCN2012647300 TIFF (133.9mb)
    119. Broken banks - defaulting cashiers - negligent directors - who is responsible? LCCN2012647302 TIFF (130.0mb)
    120. The " enfant ter(ri)ble" of Europe LCCN2012648777 TIFF (146.2mb)
    121. Throw 'em out! LCCN2012648781 TIFF (149.3mb)
    122. The modern colossus of (rail) roads LCCN2014645351 TIFF (139.3mb)
    123. The freedom of election or hunt-ing for popularity and plumpers for Maxwell LCCN2006688902 TIFF (118.5mb)
    124. Constitutional Club LCCN2006690504 TIFF (143.6mb)
    125. The sour prospect before us, or The ins throwing up LCCN2006690521 TIFF (101.1mb)
    126. The life of William-Cobbett, -written by himself. No. 8 LCCN2007677435 TIFF (110.0mb)
    127. -Affairs. The sweet prospect behind us, or The outs in office LCCN2007677506 TIFF (101.1mb)
    128. Represantant d'une grande nation LCCN2010647164 TIFF (170.2mb)


Historic American buildings survey[edit]

Hi, Fae. Good job getting us all the new images! I've been doing other work with images of historical places, so I'll look at these to see if I can help improve the categories. I've already done a few.

I found one image whose title and description are wrong. I can fix the description and move the image, but I thought I'd run it by you first. If nothing else, I didn't know if you'd want to correct the place where the title and description came from. The image is this one. It says it's a detail of a mosaic in a floor, but it's actually the interior of the dome in the building. You can compare it to other images in Category:San Mateo County History Museum to see.

So would you like me to do the fixes, or would you like to take care of it?

Regards. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:41, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm a bit over-committed on Wikimania stuff. It would be great if you could take action to improve those that have obvious issues. -- (talk) 21:39, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Sure thing. I moved this one. Is it OK to change the commented metadata, or would that mess up some sourcing info or anything? --Auntof6 (talk) 10:11, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
if you mean the invisible metadata then it is probably better to leave those comments as they are. The *visible* text in the main template are perfectly fine to change. Once changed, my housekeeping is likely to ignore the file though, on the presumption that if a human has reviewed it, it should not be reverted. -- (talk) 14:04, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
The HABS files in Category:Fort_Miller,_California could use some filemover attention, as well. They're designated as being in Marin County (probably confused with the Millerton there) but are actually related to the Millerton in Madera County... maybe @Auntof6: could take care of these, too? --jnkyrdsprkl (talk) 22:50, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
It looks like those have been taken care of. Am I missing something? --Auntof6 (talk) 00:15, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
The "Marin County" in the filenames (and the info, but I can do that) should be "Madera County", sorry for not making that clear enough. --jnkyrdsprkl (talk) 01:30, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Ah, got it! I've been so focused on categories that I didn't pay attention to your mention of "filemover" and I just looked at the categories. Stand by and I'll take care of these right now. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
OK, I did the moves. One of them didn't need moving because it didn't have "Marin" in the file name. If you want, I could use AWB to change the text. I'm just not sure whether it's OK to change every occurrence of "Marin" to "Madera", because I don't know if some need to be left as they are to match a source or something. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:22, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! For now I changed it in the "depicted place" field, but left the title alone; If I get confirmation from LoC that it's being fixed on their end, I'll change that, too (if someone else doesn't in the meantime). --jnkyrdsprkl (talk) 20:19, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

"Search and Retrieval of Similar Images"[edit]

Of any interest? http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10278-010-9328-z --Nemo 16:49, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Going by the abstract, this was about using description to match images along with identification of sub-regions of images; I have not ferreted out the paper as it seemed a narrow academic domain rather than a general treatment. We could do similar things, in effect we do using categories, but a reliable way of finding similar photographs by the image itself is what we really need, so that differing resolutions and even crops can be listed. -- (talk) 05:36, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
This is something I'd be very interested in for the British Library Mechanical Curator collection of images -- a million scanned images from 19th century books, with little or no metadata, currently sitting on Flickr. There are a lot of repeated engravings -- mostly decorative fillers, but also repeated feature engravings -- and it would be really good to be able to identify them, tag them, and trace the works they are used in.
I bookmarked some links a few months ago from a quick Google search, at User:Jheald/sandbox/Image similarity search, but it would be good to share ideas with other people. Do you know if there is any kind of community group or wikiproject interested in practical image analysis, here on Commons? Jheald (talk) 13:44, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
I think the nearest would be the Graphics lab people, but it's not the same thing. There are well established free Python libraries to handle this type of image analysis, which could take a reference image and do region based comparisons using polygon matching (the same libraries that underpin face matching). With some thought this could probably do everything we want. What would be revolutionary for us would be finding a way of storing the relevant processed 'key data' with an image so that this matching could be highlighted on upload and even better if we could publicly retain the same key data for deleted images.
It is pretty easy for me to get to your college/Wellcome, or to the Mozilla place, how about arranging an open image lab workshop to get some demos working, maybe with someone who can explain this from the software development side? This month is a bust, but it might be interesting in a couple of months. -- (talk) 05:10, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
I should warn that I'm no longer quite as attached to my college as my 20 year old email address might suggest.  :-) But not living too far away. It would certainly be interesting to get together people who are interested in this issue, to see what people know.
Interestingly the Yahoo academic who's just released the Commons:Internet Archive/Book Images collection, which they're hoping to also roll out to a number of other U.S. libraries that have images to be extracted from exisiting scanning, cited me this post and says he's been working with people on the Flickr team to "apply algorithms to cluster similar images together and to tag images by type as to whether they are a map, illustration, photograph, etc, so a lot of those features should be coming soon" -- so it will be interesting to see what may be forthcoming, and whether the algroithms work as well on b/w engravings as on photographs. I'll see whether Ben at the BL has more suggestions about people it might be interesting to try to get together. Jheald (talk) 09:04, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Landscapes is not a dustbin category[edit]

Well, you've done it again. You've dumped dozens of photos of trees, towns etc into the landscapes category. You did this last year, and it took myself and several other editors almost 12 months to fix the mess. Could you please stop doing this? If you feel the need to dump images into an existing category, could you just dump them into the "Killer Whale" category or similar? They clearly don't belong there any more than they do in Landscapes, but at least those catgeories aren't labelled as being overcrowded. You really couldn't find a worse category in which to dump random images than the one that you have chosen. The landscape page says quite clearly that buildings, mountains and forests do NOT belong into this category, a point that I drew to your attention last year. Yet here we are again. It would also be appreciated if you could assist with cleaning up your mess. Thank you. Mark Marathon (talk) 23:12, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I don't know which files you are referring to. Landscapes does not appear to have any of my uploads in it. Thanks -- (talk) 08:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

And so on and so forth.Mark Marathon (talk) 10:24, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the feedback. These were uploaded in 2012, not 2014, so asking me 2 years later to stop uploading them is an odd request. I'll think about taking a look, but there are only a relatively small handful of files there. -- (talk) 11:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Examples of complicated metadata[edit]

Hi Fae,

You were saying some very interesting things at Wikimania about some of the more complicated examples of metadata that you have encountered in some of your recent bulk uploads -- things like multiple relevant creation dates, different licenses attached to different parts of the data and image, etc.

Would it be possible to give some examples, and for you to expand on this?

I know I'd personally find it very helpful.

It would be great if you could. All best, Jheald (talk) 12:43, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I might have to return to this at the weekend, after the bank holiday my diary is looking a bit tight. -- (talk) 13:16, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Absolutely no hurry. Thanks! Jheald (talk) 13:34, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Adding intelligent match categories[edit]

Hi, Fæ. I just noticed this edit, where you added back a category that I had removed. I removed it when I was diffusing Category:Presidio of San Francisco. That category was pretty crowded, so I made subcategories for some of the identifiable buildings. It looks like you made the same change to a lot of other files as well.

I did a lot of work over the last week or two on HABS files related to San Francisco. I'm now wondering if you made similar changes to any of the other files where I diffused categories. Is there a way you can check the changes you did to see? I think the files belong in the lower-level categories and not in the higher-level ones. Do you disagree? Is there a way you can avoid un-diffusing in the future?

Let me know how we can resolve this. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:57, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

By the way, I'm currently removing Category:Presidio of San Francisco again. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:00, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
I have added "Building" and "Presidio" to a category check, if found the image is skipped for the intelligent NRHP matching as categories including those words are a give-away that a detailed place category has been added. This is a tricky area of housekeeping as it may be beneficial to add a place category twice. If you have ideas for better pattern matching I'd be happy to try them. -- (talk) 10:25, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks very much. The only better idea I have is not to add a category if a file is already in a subcategory of the one being added. However, I know that's probably not practical. Is this something you do multiple times, or do you just do one pass at any given group of files? --Auntof6 (talk) 01:45, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
At the moment a NRHP marked category has its parents checked. If these match one of the place categories, then an image in the parent should move to the child. This has to be multiple passes, I'd need a flow diagram to explain why... I can be more cognizant of the history of changes, and I have thought of ignoring files with more than N existing edits, as a crude precaution. I'll think about revising the exclusion criteria.
Unfortunately after having my membership of the Wikimedia UK chapter publicly rejected in a way that makes me look like a criminal, and this appears to be the reason that I was kicked out of OTRS this week (not apparently for anything I have actually done as my work there was exemplary) I am stepping back a little this month. After next week I might pause my housekeeping scripts and when I return from holiday I'll take a review of whether my work here is worth the petty minded political shit I receive, which has far more impact on me than any thanks I get for my volunteer time. -- (talk) 11:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Commons Beta[edit]

Hi Fae! Could you please grant me GWToolset on beta.commons? I'd like to get my feet wet. :-) --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:19, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

✓ Done Added admin rights as well, as being able to delete is handy (something I always feel the lack of here). -- (talk) 04:50, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Purrfect. Thanks a bunch! --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 13:37, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Ough, ran into the first problem. I can't get the XML file part to work properly. Could you provide me with an example of one you use for my beta-playground? --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 22:45, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Email me and I'll send an example back, prob tomorrow. There are some examples in the tool manual too. -- (talk) 22:50, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated! email sent. :) --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 22:53, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

A lot of cleanup work for you due to backend problems in July[edit]

See User:Ilmari Karonen/Queries/Zombie images --Denniss (talk) 09:15, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, it is a useful list. I could probably reformat this in a way to pump through my upload process for a second time (but it will probably have to defer until I return from holiday later in September). It is a pity that we do not have a way of making it a WMF problem to sort out consequences resulting from WMF server/software outages or time-outs. If nothing else, if I spend an extra two FTE days tidying up after outages, then it would be great to be able to invoice someone for my time, as it is not how I imagined I would invest my unpaid volunteer time. -- (talk) 09:22, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

WMUK[edit]

In this series of posts, that you just made to the Village Pump you said amongst other things "I would feel a lot happier if your charity would correctly and promptly respond to my DPA request, or my complaint about the misleading statements made to voting members of the UK charity during the recent AGM". As you know, your Subject Access Request that you made to Wikimedia UK under the terms of the Data Protection Act was promptly acknowledged and, as we said, you will receive all the information you are entitled to within the statutory period. We were keeping the existence of your DPA request confidential as a courtesy to you, but it's fine if you want to mention it publicly. As to your 'complaint', I advised you on 14th August that I would be on holiday until 1st September. That is today, and I am already working on it. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 09:59, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Had you been bothered to have a real conversation with me before the AGM rather than behaving as if I were a plaintiff, you might have saved us both a lot of time now. Thanks for assuring me that I am free to publish whatever I wish, living in the UK, I presumed that was the case without seeking your permission.
By the way your use of quote marks in referring to my complaint has been noted, I take this as a sign that you either intend to be sarcastic, or as the Chairman of the Wikimedia UK national charity, you are not taking my complaint seriously. I have no idea why you would think that would be to the benefit of the charity, or is a smart way of demonstrating your professionalism in handling a governance problem, especially where it relates to an official complaint of improper conduct during the charity's legally required Annual General Meeting.
Please keep in mind this is a wiki not a blog or twitter. Editing a comment within a reasonable period and before anyone else has commented is not a "series of posts", it is editing the same comment. You previously made similar remarks as a way to marginalise my comments on another wiki, however this is not actually how talk pages work and are used by project contributors. -- (talk) 11:33, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi Fae, you have read into my post a sign which was not there. As to the issues you have raised with me by email, we are taking them extremely seriously and I am in confidential email correspondence with you about them - which is as it should be. It is not likely to be of benefit either to you or to the charity to discuss details in public on-wiki, and I will therefore not be continuing this thread. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 17:55, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
You wrote your 'complaint' rather than your complaint—it is hard to escape as it is published above. Anyone reading your use of quote marks with a good grasp of English punctuation would interpret that as not for direct speech but for irony. See quotation mark.
As I have stated to you already, I am at the stage of no longer believing that the obsession with secrecy about how I have been treated protects me at all, considering what has gradually been revealed about what has happened without my knowledge at the time. As you continue to be unable to pick up your telephone and actually talk to me as if I were human and a fellow unpaid volunteer on Wikimedia projects, rather than a legal case to fight, despite several invites from me for you to talk over a period of months, I think it is a logical assumption that your priorities here do not include what would best benefit me, but how best to make me go away, preferably forever.
I have seen your email, including your defence of the behaviour of one of your trustees during the AGM which was likely to have affected a legal vote of members of the charity while it was being conducted, because you think their public statements were in a "closed list"; pretty odd as if I did precisely the same thing by gossiping at back of the room as a "closed discussion" while people were voting, I doubt you would have thought that appropriate. I do not accept your defence as it does not survive scrutiny.
Most of the evidence you are insisting I provide, is as easy as asking your employees to confirm the facts. However when I find time between preparing to go on holiday and helping with a close relative dangerously ill in hospital, I shall provide the text you now appear to require before investigating. -- (talk) 18:32, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Acknowledged. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 20:14, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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