User talk:Gambo7

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Coats of arms[edit]

Both coats of arms are hundreds of years olds. Republishing by the Vatican on its homepage doesn't create a new copyright. Great Thing: "I've no idea of nothing. But the images must be deleted. But speedy." :-).--Liutprand-1977 (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Catagory:Umbrellas in art und Category:Umbrellas in heraldry[edit]

Hallo Gambo7 - ich danke dir für deine Arbeit am Project Heraldry. Bitte beachte bei der Kategorisierung, dass "... in heraldry" oder "... in art" oder "... in architecture" jeweils nur solche Bilder gehören die Wappen, Kunstwerke und Bauten zeigen. Standard-Elemente wie der "umbracalum" allein sind weder ein Wappen noch Kunstwerk oder Bauwerk. Und warum mussten die beiden Dateien umbenannt werden? Und warum musste ein Nummer in Klammern "(1) und (2)" sein? --maxxl2 - talk 16:22, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Medal icons[edit]

Hello! Before you replace every medal icon there is: They are very widely used - Is this discussed? IMHO the new colors don't look better, besides at File:Bronze medal olympic.svg it makes the red ring nearly invisible (by the way, you made that file four times larger (and harder to read) by saving it with inkscape) --maix¿? 23:12, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok but bronze should bronze, not brown (!!)... and gold should be gold... I'll see if I can make better colours --Gambo7 (talk) 15:13, 19 April 2013 (UTC) Moved here by maix. Let's keep this here, I watch the page.
I think it's more important that the colors are recognizable and distinct from each other and look sort of good. You will never accurately reproduce the real colors, as they are metals, which are glowing which a computer display cannot. I think the previous colors do fit both criteria quite good. --maix¿? 19:26, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

File:C o a Vatican City.svg[edit]

Thank you very much for your comparision. Let's see whether if is enough for Fry1989. Otherwise, this would demonstrate that Fry1989's actions are motivated by bad faith. --Echando una mano (talk) 18:48, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

"Somebody"[edit]

I do hope you realize that just because you aren't using my name, I don't know when you're talking about me. Fry1989 eh? 17:44, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

I was not talking about you in facts. Unless your name on the Wikis is different than the one you use here. --Gambo7 (talk) 17:47, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

File:Vatican City CoA.svg[edit]

La ringrazio molto per questa nuova versione, molto meglio degli altri. Cordiali saluti, --Echando una mano (talk) 01:22, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

No, ma grazie lo stesso. Ottimo lavoro con File:Vatican City CoA.svg! --F l a n k e r (talk) 19:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Grazie mille per il vostro aiuto. --Echando una mano (talk) 23:06, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


Hello Gambo, only a small pronounced critic, I must say the escutcheon looks indeed a bit something strange. Also a little bit in the original reference, but your version has intensified this, it is to much cambered in every way. Maybe that's also what the others have seen at first sight. User: Perhelion04:58, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Well you can make lines more curved with few clicks on Inkscape (and I don't even think that an escutcheon can be used to raise a copyvio issue, it's just a common shape), anyway the discussions were more about the emblem itself, especially the tiara, than the whole image. --Gambo7 (talk) 08:31, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Football World Cup.svg[edit]

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Эlcobbola talk 17:31, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Football World Cup.svg[edit]

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Natuur12 (talk) 17:45, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Persönliche Ansprache als Troll[edit]

Hallo - wenn du nicht heraldisch und historisch einwandfrei zu arbeiten bewohnt bist, verbitte ich mir Ansprachen wie "Please stop trolling or edit-warring", was schon einen PA zu Inhalt hat. Bitte mäßigen oder solche Texte haben herbe Konsequenzen.

Nebenbei bemerkt: beide Dateien tragen falsche Bezeichnungen. Eine Körperschaft "Pontifical State" hat es nie gegeben, höchsten "Papal States". Die Embleme in den Wappen sind ebenso falsch, da sie nicht einer möglichen historischen Blasonierung entsprechen: "Gules a pair of keys crossed in saltire, one gold, one silver, tied gold, surmounted by an umbraculum." Das Beste ist, du lässt die falsch benamten und falsch gestalteten Wappen komplett löschen und fängst nochmal von vorne an. -- Maxxl² - talk 20:18, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

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 Maxxl² - talk 20:29, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Flag of the Papal States.gif[edit]

Hallo - diese Flagge war niemals die Flagge der Papal States. Sie war nur die Flagge eines Gebietes - Comtat Venaissin in France around Avignon- , das dazu gehörte. Niemals versammelten sich die Päpstlichen Staaten unter dieser Flagge. Päpstliche Flaggen haben immer das päpstliche Zeichen (Tiara oder Umbraculum) zum Inhalt. Das fehlt hier. -- Maxxl² - talk 09:19, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Comtat Venaissin used to have the same flag of the Papal states because it was under direct control of the Papal States itself. The flag was the same for both. Tiara/umbraculum were introduced later. --Gambo7 (talk) 10:19, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Seit 1348 unter päpstlicher Hoheit. Aber wie sah die Flagge aus? Benenne einfach eine Quelle für deine Theorie. -- Maxxl² - talk 10:34, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Vexillum Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae.svg[edit]

Hallo - hier sind wir ja nun gemeinsam einen Schritt weiter gekommen. Ich könnte mir gut vorstelllen, das das Emblem noch etwas größer, länger auf dem Tuch stehen könnte. Was meinst du dazu? -- Maxxl² - talk 12:09, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Das Vexillum sollte horizontal sein, wie du in File:Mosaiques de San Salvatore della Scala Santa Rome.JPG (Jesus gibt es zu Konstantin) und anderen alten Bilder sehen kannst. --Gambo7 (talk) 12:15, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Ein Gonfaleone wird immer senkrecht dargestellt. Sieh mal hier. -- Maxxl² - talk 12:20, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Aber es war ein Vexillum (vexillum cum armis Ecclesiæ), kein Gonfalone. Vexillum = Fahne, Banner, Standard, ohne besondere Definitionen. --Gambo7 (talk) 12:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Wenn du dir die Quasten und Schlaufen ansiehst, ist unschwer zu erkennen, dass dieser Stoff nur senkrecht wie hier vor dem Papst her getragen werden kann. Das beschreibt doch auch der Text: ... il drappo era attaccato ad una lunga asta dorata, incavata al posto dell’impugnatura e cimata di una piccola lancia metallica, da cui pendevano cordoni a fiocco d’oro.. Vielleicht kannst du das nochmal bedenken. -- Maxxl² - talk 12:44, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Quasten und Schlaufen wurden von mir hinzugefügt, nur um es mehr "mittelaltlicher" zumachen; da Text sagt nichts darueber, drappo meint nur "Tuch".
Wenn du es senkrecht willst, dann kannst du ein derivatives Bild uploaden, kein Problem. --Gambo7 (talk) 12:56, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
So wie das jetzt da ist, ist das technisch/praktisch unmöglich, da ein Wimpel/Fahne mit Quasten an den Außenenden niemals "fliegen" kann, Das Seidentuch wird wegen des Gewichts der Quasten immer schlaff am Fahnenstock hängen und die Fahne nicht ihrer Aufgabe gerecht werden: das Emblem deutlich zu zeigen und zu sagen: "Hier kommt der Heilige Vater". Es ist geradezu die Aufgabe der Quasten, das Tuch vertikal zu straffen. Bitte zeige mir eine Abbildung einer horizontalen Fahne mit Quasten.
Zu der Zeit der Entstehung der VSRC wurde noch nicht zwischen "Vexillium" und "Gonfalone" unterschieden. Als Beleg aus der gleichen vatikanischen Quelle: La custodia del Vessillo di S.R.C. era affidata, tanto in tempo di pace che in tempo di guerra, ad un personaggio di alto rango, che assumeva pertanto la denominazione e la carica di "Vessillifero di Santa Romana Chiesa", detto anche Gonfaloniere della Chiesa. Eine Sache - zwei Namen. -- Maxxl² - talk 15:02, 17 July 2014 (UTC)