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Gouwenaar 14:37, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

The Little Mermaid[edit]

I'm sorry to inform you, that your photo was deleted. Please read carefully copyright warnings on the page about Little Mermaid. A.J. 16:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your question:

  • Links to copyrighted works are generally not forbidden on Wikipedia (except pirate copies)
  • I nominated German file for deletion: as far as I know they have the same rules as Commons
  • English Wikipedia may accept your photo on fair use clause of US copyright law, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Non-free_3D_art
  • Maybe some local Wikipedias allow fair-use too? I'll try to investigate that.

A.J. 21:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hallo G., wat een weelde. Hulde aan de organisatie. Zoveel beeldhouwers krijgen nu in hun categorie afbeeldingen er bij. Dit begint zoden aan de dijk te zetten. Ik kom zelf die kant niet meer uit (ook Gorkum dus niet) en kan dus niet helpen. Ik ga kijken wat er bruikbaar is voor artikelen op wikipedia. Bedankt, --Gerardus (talk) 08:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Dank, maar is nog een lange weg te gaan. Zelfs in Gouda ben ik lang nog niet op de helft. Gouwenaar (talk) 09:50, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


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Siep van den Berg[edit]

Hallo Gouwenaar, ik heb enige gegevens toegevoegd aan cat:Siep van den Berg (schoonzoon van Werkman, maar geen lid van De Ploeg). Hij heeft veel werk nagelaten in Groningen, Friesland en elders in de openbare ruimte. Met meer foto's valt er wellicht nog eens een artikel te maken op nl.wikipedia. Groetend--Gerardus (talk) 08:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Ja, ik kende dit artikel over hem [1] Met vr. groet, Gouwenaar (talk) 14:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Dat artikel is overigens niet op alle punten even nauwkeurig. Zo overleed de moeder van Siep van den Berg, Lolkje van der Zee niet in 1919 maar in 1918. Gouwenaar (talk) 10:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Jij zegt het. Weet je, veel info van Kunstbus is gekopieerd uit andere artikelen, die al dan niet correct zijn. Check en double-check, meer kan ik ook niet zeggen. Dit geldt overigens in gelijke mate ook voor Artcyclopedia en soortgelijke websites. Bij beroemde kunstenaars bestaan er gelukkig ook nog zoiets als Foundations of redelijke museuminfo. Groetend--Gerardus (talk) 12:02, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

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Categorisatie beelden[edit]

Beste Gouwenaar, ik zag dat je wat worstelde met categorisatie en hercategorisatie van beeldhouwwerk. Al meer dan een jaar geledem, toe ik cat:sculptures in ... ging ordenen en nieuw indelen ( eerst Nederland en Duitsland, maar langzamerhand ook andere landen)) kwam ik al voor de vraag te staan in welke cat. hoort wat. Het antwoord is nogal simpel: desgewenst in meerdere cats, waarom kiezen. Een fontein met veel beeldhouwwerk (in Duitsland vrij normaal) komt zowel in sculptures als in fountains. Idem een memorial: een simpel recht toe recht aan steen of een monument met veel beeldhouwerk of een reliëf. Eenvoudigweg in twee cats indelen. Groot voordeel: iemand die memorials zoekt komt alles tegen, maar iemand die sculptures zoekt komt zo ook mooie dingen tegen en idem bij fountains of reliëfs. Natuurlijk valt uiteindelijk alles onder sculptures, maar op deelgebieden (undercategories) valt nu ook direct alles te vinden. Groetend--Gerardus (talk) 08:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Ja, je hebt ongetwijfeld gelijk. Ik was eigenlijk bezig de indeling voor Stadskanaal wat logischer te maken en liep daar tegen het probleem aan, dat je een onderscheid moet maken tussen enerzijds de gemeente en anderzijds de plaats Stadskanaal. Toen ik toch bezig was probeerde ik de indeling wat consequenter te maken, maar als ik daar te ver in ben gegaan, dan is een correctie op zijn plaats, want führt nicht jeder Konsequenz zum ...? Met vr. groet, Gouwenaar (talk) 15:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hallo Gouwenaar, ik heb aan je lijstje replica's van memorials in Gouda de category:sculptures in Gouda toegevoegd. Wellicht vind je dit overbodig maar ik vind de objecten belangrijk genoegd voor de lijst. Een andere meer principiële vraag is: zijn replica's eigenlijk nog wel memorials ook al staan ze bij het Verzetsmuseum? Denk er eens over na. Groetend--Gerardus (talk) 07:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Strikt geredeneerd zijn het geen memorials maar slechts replica's ervan. Maar in afgeleide zin en mogelijk ook in werkelijkheid (gelet op de plaats waar ze zijn neergezet) fungeren ze wel als zodanig. Moet je hier ook niet niet simpelweg de - wat ik nu maar noem - de wet van Gerardus toepassen: waarom kiezen, desgewenst in meerdere cats? Met vr. groet, Gouwenaar (talk) 14:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Licht provocatief bedoeld, maar je antwoord is zo complimenteus, dat ik slechts met "ja" kan antwoorden. Groetend--Gerardus (talk) 14:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Ik was al bang dat je het doorhad. Blijft natuurlijk staan mijn waardering voor al het werk dat je hier hebt gedaan. Gouwenaar (talk) 18:51, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Corinne Franzen-Heslenfeld[edit]

Hallo Gouwenaar, de naam van deze dame intrigeert me. Alle bronnen, ook de RKD en haar eigen kleindochter, spreken over Franzen. In oktober j.l. veranderde je op Wikipedia haar naam in Franzèn en ik kan maar niet achterhalen waarom. Vandaag vond ik een reliëf in Rotterdam, weer op naam van Franzen-Heslenfeld. Licht mijn pad eens bij. Groetend en de BW voor 2009.--Gerardus (talk) 12:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Hallo Gerardus, ik baseerde mij daarbij op de volgende bron: Oscar van Wijk in Beelden en Gouda. Hij gebruikte op de pag. 44, 45 en 96 consequent de spelling Franzèn. Ook Kunst in Utrecht gebruikt het accent grave. Het verhaal wordt nog iets merkwaardiger, want onlangs kreeg ik van het bedrijf Croda (de rechtsopvolger van de Goudse Kaarsenfabriek) hun in 2008 verschenen jubileumboek cadeau. Hierin prachtige foto's van kunst op en bij hun fabrieksterrein, waaronder Sint Lucia van haar hand. Ook hier wordt in de naam een accentteken gebruikt , maar geen accent grave, maar een accent aigu dus Franzén. Overigens net als de digitale bibliotheek der Nederlandse letteren en het IIAV. Verwarring dus alom. Naar aanleiding van je reactie heb ik nog het oude krantenregister van met name Het Vaderland (1920-1945) [2] geraadpleegd. Daar komt slechts eenmaal het accentteken voor, alle overige vermeldingen zijn zonder een accent. Met vr. groet, Gouwenaar (talk) 16:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Nog even verder gezocht. In: Wie is dat? : naamlijst van bekende personen op elk gebied in het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden, met biografische aantekeningen, opgave hunner voornaamste werken, adressen, enz., enz.wordt zij op blz. 161 genoemd als Cornelia C.J.M. Franzén-Heslenfeld. Waarschijnlijk is dat laatste wel correct, want in de overlijdensadvertentie van haar vader Wilhelmus Henricus Maria Heslenfeld d.d. 21 april 1933 staan zij en haar man als volgt genoemd: 's-Gravenhage: C.C.J.M. Franzén-Heslenfeld en H. Franzén (zij zijn op 19 november 1929 in de St. Angarskerk te Kopenhagen getrouwd, bij haar huwelijk werd zij Corrie genoemd en haar man Henning). Ik stel voor om de naam dus te wijzigen in Franzén-Heslenfeld. Met vr. groet, Gouwenaar (talk) 21:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)