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Die Zusage der S. Fischer Verlage betrifft Wikipedia, doch kann stillschweigend unterstellt werden, dass sie auch für das Schwesterprojekt Wikimedia Commons gilt, das als Bild-Archiv für Wikipedia genutzt wird.

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Werke der Gegenwartskunst sind nur zum kleineren Teil in Museen und staatlichen Sammlungen vertreten. Der größere befindet sich in Privatbesitz. Meist bleiben diese Standorte anonym.

Für Ausstellungs-Kuratoren kann es von Bedeutung sein zu wissen, wo sich welches Werk befindet. In der Vergangenheit war ich schon mehrfach Leihgeber für Ausstellungen. Dass die jeweiligen Arbeiten mir gehörten (z. Zt. mir gehören, denn sie werden mich überleben), war den Ausstellungsmachern eher zufällig bekannt. Als Ruheständler habe ich nun Zeit, meine Kunst-Sammlung im Internet zu katalogisieren und will das auch gern tun, gemäß der Forderung: Eigentum verpflichtet. Eine geheime Privatsammlung ist sozial und gesellschaftlich wertlos.

Ältere Werke konnte ich in den Wikimedia-Portalen Commons und Wikipedia publizieren. Bildzitate von zeitgenössischer Kunst werden aber dort abgelehnt bzw. unterdrückt, obwohl sich eine rechtliche Form dafür finden ließe.

In der Vergangenheit hatte ich mit BT Mediawork bereits drei bibliophile Sammlungsverzeichnisse digital publiziert, darunter einen Atlas der Erstausgaben Thomas Manns. Nun folgt nach der gescheiterten Kooperation mit Wikicommons ein viertes virtuelles Sammlungsverzeichnis, diesmal für Kunstfreunde und als Standortnachweis.

Leipzig, Mai 2009

H.-P.Haack (talk) 02:57, 4 May 2009 (UTC)Hans-Peter Haack

Das Projekt ist in WIKIVERSITY verwirklicht worden. → [1]

Erfolgreich Commons zur Verfügung gestellte Bilder von H.-P.Haack

Fotos, die ich weltweit kostenlos zur Verfügung gestellt habe, siehe → [2]. Die weltweite Nutzung meiner Fotos → Google → "h.-p.haack"

Die nachfolgenden Ermahnungen und Löschungen sind entstanden, weil mir lange niemand erklärt hat, dass Bildzitate in Commons nicht erwünscht sind. Ich war immer vom deutschen Urheberrecht inbezug auf → Bildzitate ausgegangen. Die englischen Abmahnungen erreichen mich nicht, da ich keine Fremdsprachen beherrsche. Dessen geniere ich mich nicht, da im Deutschen sich das Wort mir um so mehr zu Gebote hält.

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Hallo, in dieser Kategorie findest Du jetzt Deine hochgeladenen Bilder. Zuvor gab's drei verschiedene (mit unterschiedlichen Schreibweisen). Hoffe, das hilft weiter :-) Grüße --:Bdk: 15:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Vielen Dank! Sieben Blätter muss ich noch fotografieren und hochladen. Will mir einen Ruck geben, dass ich fertig werde! Grüße -H.-P.Haack 17:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

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Bitte lass es sein, Unsinn zu Wikimedia Commons beizutragen. Dies wird als Vandalismus angesehen. Für Tests gibt es die Spielwiese. Danke.

Bitte, nicht das noch einmal machen ! --Pymouss Tchatcher - 16:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Die Erlaubnis der S. Fischer Verlage habe ich zu meiner rechtlichen Absicherung hier publiziert. In den Legenden der Abb. zu meiner Thomas Mann Sammlung verweise ich auf diese Seite hier. → Thomas Mann Sammlung Dr. Haack Leipzig--H.-P.Haack 20:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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Hallo. Bitte entschuldigen Sie meine Sprache, ich bin auf einer Internet-Übersetzer. Ich fürchte, Sie scheinen nicht zu verstehen, Urheberrecht - die Bücher möglicherweise nicht mehr verfügbar sein, aber der ursprüngliche Herausgeber hält Urheberrecht an ihnen für 70 Jahre, und dazu gehört auch das Cover Artwork. Es sei denn, Sie wissen, hält die tatsächlichen Urheberrechte an dem Kunstwerk (wenn die Verlage nicht mehr existieren) und können sicherstellen, dass sie sich in die Public Domain, können wir nicht akzeptieren, solche Bilder auf Commons. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Ich reproduziere aus meinem Internet-Katalog, mit Hinweis auf diese Quelle, mit eigenem Copyrigth für die Bilder. --H.-P.Haack (talk) 11:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

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Hallo. Du hast dich also inzwischen auf den Commons angemeldet. Ich habe es durch dein Landarzt-Bild gemerkt. Ist doch auch nicht anders als in de wp. Dann wünsche ich dir noch, dass sich in Zukunft weniger besorgte Bots bei dir melden (ist mir auch schon passiert). Mit freundlichen Grüßen --Jarlhelm (talk) 21:55, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Gerade sehe ich noch deine Fischer-Erlaubnis. Ich bin beeindruckt. Ich weiß nich, ob du damit bei Wikimedia Erfolg hattest/hast, aber soweit ich weiß, gab es schon ähnliche Dinge, die dann doch nicht gingen, etwa bei der Himmelsscheibe von Nebra. Aber „bei Wikipedia verwenden“ heißt ja, dass jeder alles damit machen darf, alo auch kommerziell, und es ist wohl schwer vorstellbar, dass die Fischer-Umschläge bald für andere Bücher verwendet werden dürfen. Gilt die Erlaubnis nur für Thomas Mann? Etwas ähnliches: Ubisoft hat offenbar die Erlaubnis gegeben, Screenshots ihrer Computerspiele frei zu lizenzieren (siehe Bild rechts). Dafür gibt es auch eine extra Lizenzvorlage. Vielleicht schaffst du das ja auch für alle Umschläge des Fischer-Verlags. :-) --Jarlhelm (talk) 22:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hallo Jahrhelm! Ob ich mit der Fischer-Erlaubnis bei Wikipedia Erfolg hatte? Ja und nein. Mal werden die Fotos geduldet, mal werden sie gelöscht. Warum wie entschieden wird, habe ich noch immer nicht kapiert. Es scheint da Ermessensspielräume zu geben. - Denke, dass, wenn ich aus meinem zvab.com-Antiquariatskatalog abbilde, also aus einer Quelle mit meinem Copyright, keine Einwände bestehen dürften. Scheint für die Administratoren schwer beurteilbar zu sein, da ähnliche Fälle bisher noch nicht vorgekommen sind. Oder doch? - Zu Commons: Mit dem Thomas-Mann-Katalog habe ich erst mal eine Pause eingelegt, da ich damit rechnen muss, dass er von einem Ausländer gelöscht wird, wenn er endlich fertig ist. Stelle die Thomas-Mann-Fotos besser in meinen Antiquariats-Katalog. Da sind sie sicher. Bei Commons lade ich vorerst nur die alten Exemplare hoch (Erscheinungsjahr bis 2007). Gruß --H.-P.Haack (talk) 05:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

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Hallo HP, habe gerade o.g. Artikel durchgesehen und mich an Deiner Illustration (Neue Rundschau) erbaut. Danke. Gruß --Hedwig Storch (talk) 09:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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Image:Thomas Mann 1955.jpg

Da wird es sehr bald einen Löschantrag zu geben, daher schonmal vorweg eine Erklärung (etwas laienhaft, aber den Regeln entsprechend): Das Photo ist 1955 aufgenommen worden, es unterliegt also auf jedem Fall noch dem Urheberrecht eines Autors (Photographen), dieses könnte entweder nach 70 Jahren erlöschen wenn der Autor auch nach Recherche anonym ist oder für z.B. eine Agentur gearbeitet hat oder 70 Jahre nach dem Tod des Photographen - bei 1955 ist beides nicht möglich. Auch wenn der Photograph unbekannt ist gilt dieses, Annahmen wie der Photograph wird sein Recht niemals geltend machen zählen nicht (COM:PRP). Der Photograph (unbekannt) hat sein Einverständnis nicht gegeben, dass Jeder das Bild frei Nutzen kann. Du hast dir die Arbeit mit der Digitalisierung gemacht, die Digitalisierung kannst du auch frei lizensieren, allerdings ist das Bild noch Gegenstand des Urheberrechts des Photographen und damit ist das neue Werk (das digitalisierte Bild) nicht frei lizensierbar, siehe hierzu Commons:Bearbeitungen. Den gleichen Fehler hast du in der Vergangenheit schonmal gemacht, zumindest interpretiere ich es als Fehler. Ich kann natürlich auch falsch liegen: Der Autor könnte sein Einverständnis gegeben haben, dann müsstest du das auf der Bildbeschreibungsseite auch darlegen, sonst ist es für keinen Betrachter nachvollziehbar. Bedenke bitte: Commons (gleiches gilt für Wikipedia) ist ein Archiv für freie Bilder, dass bedeuted: Jeder kann die Bilder im Rahmen bestimmter Lizenzbedingungen nutzen zu jedem Zweck, einschließlich kommerzieller Nutzung. Dazu muss der Urheber/Rechteinhaber eines Werkes sein Einverständniss (in Form einer Lizenz) geben und das Bild selber darf nicht Gegenstand eines fremden Urheberrechtes sein. --Martin H. (talk) 19:23, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: Ich bin noch auf deine Einverständnisserklärung des S.Fischer Verlages aufmerksam geworden: In Ihren Wikipedia-Beiträgen ist leider keine ausreichende Genehmigung, Commons (und auch Wikipedia) aktzeptiert nur Medien die Jeder zu jedem Zweck (einschließlich kommerzieller Nutzung) nutzen kann, auch völlig losgelöst von Wikipedia-Artikeln. Näheres steht auch hier. --Martin H. (talk) 19:23, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

- ))) - H.-P.Haack (talk) 01:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

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Kann gelöscht werden. --H.-P.Haack (talk) 09:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

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Scans

Hallo H.-P.Haack. Könntest du bitte bei Scans von Büchern, deren Urheberrecht abgelaufen ist, die Angaben so oder ähnlich anpassen? Falls dir der Grund nicht klar sein sollte, kannst du ihn unter de:Wikipedia:Bildrechte#Nicht schützbare Fotos (Reproduktionen) – 2-D-Regel nachlesen. --Leyo 08:08, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Es handelt sich bei meinen Bücher-Fotos um keine Scans. Auch nicht um reine Fotos, sondern um aufwendige Bearbeitungen mit Photoshop. Muss wohl zuerst das unbearbeitete Foto hochladen, das dann gemeinfrei wäre und dazu das von mir bearbeitete Foto, für das mir ideelle Urherberrechte zustehen. Billigt mir Commons die Autorenschaft für die bearbeiteten Fotos nicht zu, schmeiße ich den Bettel hin. Habe wegen zwei Schiffsreisen (2 Wochen + 4 Wochen) ohnehin paussiert mit der Foto-Schinderei.--H.-P.Haack (talk) 15:31, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Die Bücher, die ich für WIKIPEDIA fotografiere, sind Kulturgut und bibliophile Sammlerstücke, die mit den Jahren Individualität erlangt haben. Urheberrechtlich handelt es sich bei meiner Arbeit um Objektfotografie, kein Scannen von Titelblättern. Die Fotos dürfen unentgeltlich von Dritten als Druckvorlagen verwendet werden. Das Recht, dabei als Urheber mit "Foto H.-P.Haack" genannt zu werden, steht mir zu, obwohl es mir einige übelwollende Administratoren von WIKIPEDIA absprechen wollen. Ich sollte auch als Fotograf genannt werden, um das individuelle Buch zu identifizieren (Sammlung H.-P.Haack). Über mein Antiquariat sind viele der abgebildeten Bücher in den Sammlerkreislauf zurückgekehrt.--H.-P.Haack (talk) 09:36, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Zur Kenntnis: Commons:Forum#Scans von Büchern --Leyo 13:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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Ich wundere mich, was die Ergänzung

«Das Foto darf für wissenschaftliche oder populärwissenschaftliche Publikationen gebührenfrei verwendet werden, sofern der Urheber mit Foto H.-P.Haack vermerkt wird»

bedeuten soll? Die Ergänzung ist falsch. Unter der Lizenz darf das Foto von Jedem, weltweit, für jeden Zweck, wissenschaftliche wie auch kommerzielle Zwecke, jederzeit in jeder Form und in jedem Medium verwendet und verändert werden solange die Lizenz (§4a des Lizenzvertrags) und der Urheber (§4b des Lizenzvertrags) genannt werden. Bitte entferne deine Ergänzung. --Martin H. (talk) 19:20, 24 January 2012 (UTC)