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File:Genetic_Map_of_Europe_Dutch_highlighted.png[edit]

Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:Genetic_Map_of_Europe_Dutch_highlighted.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Fram (talk) 15:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


File:Frankish Foederatus .png[edit]

Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:Frankish Foederatus .png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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--Matthead (talk) 22:53, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


File:Frankish Expansion.png[edit]

Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:Frankish Expansion.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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--Matthead (talk) 22:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Map[edit]

Hi. Thanks for bringing my attention to that map. I do remember participating in a debate about its deletion a while back.

Since then I have come to understand Wikipedia Commons better. As I see it, Commons is supposed to be a neutral repository of media files, with the discussion and arguments about what those files contain reduced to an absolute minimum. I find this is a reasonable model. It produces a stress free environment appropriate for content creation. Nasty arguments about deletion of files (like those about deletion of articles on Wikipedia) are largely avoided, which is a good thing.

So, instead of deletion, I would suggest finding a way to make clear that there are problems with this map, so that Wikipedia users are aware of them and hopefully consider removing the map from their articles. balcer (talk) 15:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like you're just pushing the problem away from yourself. Instead of dealing with it on Commons; you expect hundreds of Wikipedia's to deal with it. Commons is supposed to be neutral; this image isn't neutral.HP1740-B (talk) 15:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
The problem is that this is not just an image: it is also text! As long as text is included in files, text can be subject of debate and eventually reason for deletion. Fransvannes (talk) 08:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Historisches deutsches Sprachgebiet.PNG[edit]

Here are, I think, the most relevant parts of COM:NPOV regarding this situation. Let's try and argue on this basis. I've emphasized some phrases that show, in my opinion, why this file should be kept. I'd like to get an answer from you where you specifically address these points, or bring up some policy that would support deletion.

It is not the role of Commons to adjudicate on subject-matter disputes nor to force local projects to use one version of a file in preference to another. [...] Images having particular national, political or religious significance including flags, emblems and maps can arouse strong passions, but Commons is not the place to decide which of various competing versions is the correct or official version. [...] Examples of subject matter disputes that are not appropriate here include:

  • Maps: “The author is trying to push a nationalistic/political/religious point of view by showing the national boundary in the wrong place", "the towns have been labelled with a non-approved name or in wrong language", "the map shows a state that has no legal recognition”.

[...] Such subject-matter disputes remain inappropriate even when they are expressed (as they normally are) in absolute terms: “that flag does not exist”; “that boundary is wrong”; “that country does not exist”. [...] As stated above, files that are in use in another Wikimedia project are in any event considered in scope and are not liable to deletion on the grounds that they are "wrong" in some way. (emphasis is mine) –Tryphon 21:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Languages of Central Europe 1910[edit]

Hi, I like the map, though it is inaccurate in some places.

  • The East Frisian language island should be moved west by at least 100km (it is not too far from the Dutch border).
  • Graubuenden/Grisons should show the Rhetoromance speaking areas (German is overrepresented here)
  • Speakers of Polish are overrepresented in Upper Silesia and Masuria. The 1910 census shows widespread use of both languages throughout the area that is coloured green in your map
  • Lithuanian was still widely used in the northeastern part (Memelland) of East Prussia.
  • There seem to be two Dutch-speaking areas in West Germany, which is not correct.

Unoffensive text of character (talk) 11:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I've adjusted the map; East Frisian has changed, as has been the Swiss romance dialects and Lithuanian. I've also adjusted Polish in Northern Poland. The Dutch spoken in Western Germany is correct though; the area around Cleves, Kevelaer and Wachtendonk was Dutch speaking. Its traditional (though rarely spoken in its pure form nowadays) dialect is Dutch. Though it might be better to stripe this area as with polish... as it wasn't 100% Dutch around 1900. I'm planning on redrawing the map; as it's not exactly what I wanted in terms of lay out, and because each time it's edited it gets uglier ... so please tell me if these corrections suffice before I do that.HP1740-B (talk) 14:53, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Do you have sources that Dutch was *spoken* by more than 50% in the areas you showed as "Dutch" in Germany (and Gelderland, Overijssel, Drenthe and Groningen)? Talking about that 50%: as far as I know (which isn't very far) in large parts of Europe no language at all had more than 50%. Erik Warmelink (talk) 13:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Removing other users' comments[edit]

These edits [1] [2] [3] [4] are unacceptable. If you had a problem with the position of the comment, you can say so on the page, or at most move it yourself, but under no circumstance (except obvious vandalism) you are to remove other people's comments. It is highly disruptive. I hope this was just a lapse of judgment. –Tryphon 15:04, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't care if they're unacceptable. He changed my edits; I don't accept that.So if you want to lecture someone; lecture him.HP1740-B (talk) 14:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Languages_of_Central_Europe_1910.png[edit]

There was a comment for your file: "Schöne Karte, aber: Wo zum Henker ist denn Sylt auf der Karte? Außerdem ist die frühere deutsch-dänische Grenze eklatant falsch. Ribe war niemals deutsch, schon gar nicht 1910. Außerdem ist Luxemburg nicht eingezeichnet. --Florian Blaschke 20:55, 21. Mai 2009 (CEST)" --Jodo (talk) 21:59, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't speak German, please translate to Dutch or English.HP1740-B (talk) 16:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok. He says "Nice work. But the former german-dutch border is wrong. The town Ribe had never been german, not even in 1910 and luxenbourg is missing completly. I don't know if he is right. --Jodo (talk) 17:21, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Also the factual accuracy of your map is disputed. See talk page. Greetings, --78.53.82.141 20:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

also regarding these maps, could you please specifiy where the "map by Dr. V. Schmidt and Dr. J. Metelka" has been published? I would like to use these maps, but unless we have a reference (as opposed to just two surnames) this will not be possible. --Dbachmann (talk) 11:31, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

IndoEuropeanTree.png[edit]

Hello, I noticed your file File:IndoEuropeanTree.png. I appreciate your work on it, but I kindly ask you to refrain from rasterizing SVG images. Please modify the SVG image directly using a tool like Inkscape. I have left a message on this here as well. Thank you. Arjun G. Menon (talk) 20:11, 19 August 2009 (UTC)