User talk:Herzi Pinki

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Contents 1 TUSC token 317fe9d7362d198301a28275f50871f1 2 Image:SinaWarteHoherLindkogel.jpg 3 Barre des Écrins / Pelvoux 4 Commons:Project scope/Pages, galleries and categories/de 5 Some questions 6 Categories with only one image 7 Request for help on the German Wikipedia 8 Category:Flora of Pyrenees 9 File source is not properly indicated: File:Volcano El Chichón.jpg

[edit] TUSC token 317fe9d7362d198301a28275f50871f1

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[edit] Image:SinaWarteHoherLindkogel.jpg

You uploaded this image which you claim to be your own work. On the upload page you agreed to place it under a Free license but did not specify which one. Please do so by replacing the {{OwnWork}} tag with a suitable copyright tag. Oxam Hartog 23:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Oxam Hartog, thanks for giving me this reminder. I simple forgot to specify the license. But now it should be ok. --Herzi Pinki 18:22, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barre des Écrins / Pelvoux

Guten Tag, helo. Thank you for your message.
I have added Category:Pelvoux to some images belonging to Category:Barre des Écrins because this pictures have been photographed from Pelvoux commune. Here, I consider Peloux as the name of the Pelvoux commune in the Hautes-Alpes( in France, a commune is the smallest administrative divison). Picture Image:Ecrins Face sud de la Barre des Ecrins.png has been photographed from Saint-Christophe-en-Oisans commune. So I have not added Category:Pelvoux here.
If I add Category:Barre des Écrins to Category:Pelvoux that means Category:Barre des Écrins is included in Category:Pelvoux; and this is not true. To sum up, for me Category:Barre des Écrins belongs either Category:Pelvoux or Category:Saint-Christophe-en-Oisans.
Regards. Aups (talk) 11:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC).

Hello. Yes Category:Massif des Écrins should be the category for the mountain group. But a picture who is in Category:Pelvoux could also be declared in Category:Massif des Écrins. Moreover, Pelvoux, is sometime used in France to refer to the center of Massif des Ecrins and Category:Massif du Peloux (not available now) would not be a mistake to my opinion.

Kind regards. Aups (talk) 13:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Commons:Project scope/Pages, galleries and categories/de

Danke für die Hilfe und das Ausbessern :-)
mfg --D-Kuru (talk) 18:35, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Die natürlich auch..

--D-Kuru (talk) 18:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Some questions

.. hi there Herzi Pinki,

thanks for dropping your questions.

About the mountain passes [1], I think it makes more sense to cluster categories together that are related to each other. I had trouble finding the categories "mountain passes", because I kept on looking in "Mountains", which is a subcategory of "Geography". Since mountain passes can only exist in mountains, it makes sense in my opinion to add "mountain passes" in "mountains", since that is already a subcategory of "Geography". Same thing goes again for "Alpine huts", which are located on mountains by definition. The most important thing is to categorise in such a way to make navigation easy. So for example when looking at "Mountains", one can see with one click all the other important categories such as "Mountain passes", "Alpine huts", maybe even "Flora of the mountains", etc., etc.

About the empty categories, yes indeed, they should either have a redirect or be completely deleted. Empty categories can be deleted with {{speedy delete|empty category}} for example. In the case of "Exnerturm", I left it because I think other users should decide whether a deletion should come in or a redirect.

About the language policy, it stipulates that categories should be in English. This is sometimes a cause for discussion, such as you rightly pointed out with Category:Matterhorn. In the case of Category:Drei Zinnen, that category was created half a year before the other one and in this case goes in order of precedence, before User:Godromil put in his edits. Gryffindor (talk) 22:26, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Please do not put messages in bold on my talk page, it says on the top in the orange box, maybe you missed it. As I said before, I think it makes sense to put in "Mountain passes" into "Mountains", because without a mountain a mountain pass cannot exist. It makes navigation easier. "Alpine houses" should remain within the mountains, but can of course be listed under other categories as well. As you rightly pointed out, a category is a is-a or a has-a relationship, so it is my understanding from your message that you are fine with "passes" being in "mountains". About the houses, it is clear that they are linked to each other geographically. If you only leave them under "Buildings" a user might completely miss it and that would be unfortunate.

From the discussion page on moving [2], the consensus is far from clear and there was no definite decision. In this case I did not create a new category as you state, but moved images to an existing one that was there beforehand. Thank you for pointing the policy out for me [3], I am aware of it, however it says "usually" not deleted, that still does not mean that categories cannot be deleted at all, it happens everyday [4]. As I said above, in this particular case I will let someone else decide if they want a redirect or a deletion. But I appreciate your concern about dangling links and finding consensus. Gryffindor (talk) 08:41, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Learned something new. It is sufficient to make a simple redirect, a bot will do all the cleanup work right behind and create the correct category redirect. Did not know that. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 14:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem. But I appreciate your honesty and concern. I will consult you more in future about moving images for those categories and then maybe we can work together? have a nice weekend. Gryffindor (talk) 19:48, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Categories with only one image

First, the discussion on Categories with only one image has been helpful to me in deciding what to do with images of Philadelphia buildings. My suggestion to you is that you should decide how you will work with categories and galleries in whatever particular part of this site is fruitful for you.

For myself, I stated my plan for adding photos of Philadelphia buildings in the Village Pump. You can watch me add images as I have time, and later I will consider new sub-categories and galleries to include my images and the images of others. I have taken a few categories mentioning Philadelphia off certain images, where I thought that the mention of Philadelphia is basically irrelevant to anyone seeking the image.

Incidentally, I liked your blue box at the top of the page so well, I put it on my talk page. Davidt8 (talk) 11:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)DavidT8

Hi David, thanks for your comments. I was asking for some rules and a got some useful links now. It was about galleries and pages somebody else created. I prefer to have a sound set of images grouped together into a category (like you do), I usually do not create galleries at all. If later there will be more images and even more, I still can create appropriate sub-cats.

I had a look at one of the images, File:Philadelphia-CityHall-2006.jpg, and I would not do that: Have a look at the categories of Category:Philadelphia City Hall, it's all there as parent categories. Imagine all images of buildings of Pennsylvania being also in Category:Buildings in Pennsylvania, nobody will find anything there. Please see also Commons:Categories#Over-categorization.

Enjoy my box. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 22:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I think I understand that you are saying that the category for this image should be in just one category, not parent categories. So, would that be Category:Buildings in Philadelphia?

Yes, that's what I'm thinking. It would be Category:Buildings in Philadelphia or a child category thereof. Philadelphia is a big city, so the category dealing with buildings there will get a lot of entries. After that, it would still be possible to move down (the category-tree) some of these images, let's say to Category:Philadelphia City Hall. But if child categories are already existing, put the image to the appropriate category. As a rule of thumb:

• Always use the deepest category you can find in the tree matching your image (Category:Philadelphia City Hall for town hall pictures and Category:Buildings in Philadelphia for your neighbourhood postoffice).
• Feel free to use as many categories as necessary, but avoid adding parent categories (this is called over categorization). But it is perfect to have an image like File:Philadelphia-CityHall-2006.jpg in Category:Philadelphia City Hall and in Category:Clock towers in the United States or Category:Buildings with blue roof (to give a nonsense example).

hope that helps: --Herzi Pinki (talk) 22:49, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

That information does help. I am trying to improve the assigned categories on Philadelphia building images, and I am also going to add a good many new images. Davidt8 (talk) 00:01, 24 March 2009 (UTC)Davidt8

[edit] Request for help on the German Wikipedia

Here is an image formerly used to illustrate the English Wikipedia article First bank of the United States. I removed it from the article, because it has nothing to do with that bank. The same image is used in the German Wikipedia article, but I am not an editor there, so I have no way to remove it.

If you are an editor there, could you please remove the image from the article? Davidt8 (talk) 23:48, 23 March 2009 (UTC)Davidt8

Done, but you can do it yourself, either make your account a global one (SUL), or just do it as an IP. No Problem with that. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 00:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. How do I make my account a global one? It sounds like a good idea, but I am not so sure I can do an update on the Japanese Wikipedia.Davidt8 (talk) 01:28, 24 March 2009 (UTC)Davidt8

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Unified_login and en:Wikipedia:Unified login for general description; Special:MergeAccount to create it (I hope so, as I already did); your will find it under your Special:Preferences. have fun. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 01:47, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Now I have removed the image from the Spanish and Japanese Wikipedias, and I have the global account. Thanks for your help. Davidt8 (talk) 10:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)Davidt8

[edit] Category:Flora of Pyrenees

Dear Herzi Pinki,

I have seen that you had some doubts whether File:Geranium cinereum001.jpg and ‎File:Papaver lapeyrousianum001.jpg‎ are correctly referred to Category:Flora of Pyrenees.

I confirm that these plants, the picture of which was taken in the Jardin alpin du Lautaret, are endemics of the Pyrenees. Consequently I have removed the question mark you have put in their description.

Best botanical regards, --Réginald (To reply) 15:03, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer, after having categorized all the flowers I felt, that there is no contradiction between the location in an alpine garden (anywhere in the world) and the association with some geographical region. So I left the other Pyrenees cat untouched. Sorry, that I forgot to remove the question mark. best regards from Vienna. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 19:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] File source is not properly indicated: File:Volcano El Chichón.jpg

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The problem is that ru:User:Green fish has already been caught uploading photos from the Web and marking then as own work. This one can hardly have been made by the uploader. --Blacklake (talk) 11:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to you for finding the source of copyvio. Sometimes I'm too reluctant to check it by TinEye :) --Blacklake (talk) 07:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)