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PD-South-Africa-exempt[edit]

Hi Htonl, you're the creator of {{PD-South-Africa-exempt}}, and the wording of this is an issue in relation to Commons:Deletion requests/File:SA-Army-badge.png (the deletion is being challenged, as discussed at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#User:Fastily). I must say that it isn't obvious to me, from the wording of the act, that it applies to images within official documents in this way. Do you have any supporting evidence for this interpretation? Or is this perhaps just a usual way of interpreting such things (forgive me, I'm not much good with the intricacies of copyright law)? Thanks, Rd232 (talk) 00:52, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

I've commented on the undeletion request. I've used the license tag for scans of acts of Parliament and court judgments, which are indisputably covered by the wording, but heraldic registrations are a very borderline case, I agree. Unfortunately there's absolutely no case law dealing with the clause. - Htonl (talk) 14:02, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Unfortunately, all too often on Commons we're not just trying to figure out what the applicable law is, but finding that the applicable law isn't really clear enough :( Rd232 (talk) 14:19, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Rv. img[edit]

Hi,

I reverted your changes to File:World homosexuality laws.svg. The way you used the stylesheet to set the colors prevented them from showing up at full size: The img looks fine when reduced, but when displayed at full size, the colors of the states of the US, Mexico, etc. did not show up. Kwamikagami (talk) 10:24, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Can I ask what program you were using to view it at full size? The problem doesn't happen with librsvg-based software or with Inkscape, but I discovered now that it does with Firefox. Was it Firefox in your case as well? Thanks. - Htonl (talk) 11:29, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, it was, but I see basically the same thing w IE. But it's weird: If I'm coming from WP-en, your first edit is messed up, but your 2nd is OK. But if I link from Commons, then both are messed up. In FF, both are messed up from both locales. Kwamikagami (talk) 11:41, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

File:LegalSystemsOfTheWorldMap.png and File:CarteSystemesJuridiquesFR.png[edit]

Good day! The Philippines has a bijuridical legal system. But in both maps, it is shown that the Philippines has a civil law. Can you please fix it? I don't know how to work with maps here in Wikipedia. Thanks. :) Sairyu (talk) 02:09, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

✓ Done - Htonl (talk) 21:19, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

File:World homosexuality laws.svg[edit]

Hi,

I reverted the addition of Alagoas, Jersey, and Washington, because your edit of Jan 23 removed Coahuilla and Mexico (the same problem we had earlier: it looks like Mexico was translocated to Bonaire). Could you restore the additions? Kwamikagami (talk) 10:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

✓ Done - Htonl (talk) 23:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, was Bonaire supposed to be there? I thought maybe it was Mexico DF relocated.

You might want to check out File:Asia homosexuality laws.svg. There are several discrepancies; I notice UAE, Burma, Sri Lanka, Aceh, Sulawesi, Singapore, Brunei do not match the world map. Kwamikagami (talk) 03:51, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Bonaire wasn't meant to be there, but it wasn't related to Mexico DF. Bonaire got the dark blue colour because it is now part of the Netherlands, since the Netherlands Antilles were dissolved - but as far as I can tell it still has a separate Civil Code which doesn't allow for SSM. So I changed that as well. I'll take a look at the Asia map when I have a chance. - Htonl (talk) 09:40, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Civilizations_map.png[edit]

Hi, the description on this map says 'A map of civilizations, based on Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations".' but it seems like a lot of edits made into this map are based on the editors' respective opinions and not according to this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clash_of_Civilizations#Major_civilizations_according_to_Huntington, which I think is more of a reliable citation than the opinions of the people who edited the map. For example, in the map shown at the Wikipedia link I provided, it shows that the Philippines is a crossroad of Sinic, Western, and Islamic civilizations though in the map at Civilizations_map.png, it shows that the Philippines is a Latin American civilization, a thing that is not seen in Huntington's book nor can be seen when one goes inside the Philippines. It's not only the Philippines that I'm concerned of but as well as the other countries such as Nigeria (Islamic and African) and the others. Can you please fix this? Thank you very much and I'm asking for help since I have no experience regarding about maps. Thank you again and I hope you can help me. Sairyu (talk) 02:09, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Coordinates for maps[edit]

Do you have the edge / corner coordinates for the maps you created? If the source image contains the info, a link to that would also help. I'm trying to overlay the map on Google Earth (To see which areas have high density) and it would make alignment significantly easier. Specifically this one: File:Gauteng_2001_population_density_map.svg MoHaG (talk) 06:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

The map is an Albers projection, so the edges don't exactly follow straight lines of latitude and longitude; on the scale of that map it's probably a small difference, though. For that Gauteng map, the lower left corner is about 27.01 S 27.04 E and the upper right corner is about 25.03 S 29.22 E. Also, if you want, I could send you the source data in KML format to load into Google Earth. - Htonl (talk) 23:28, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, that seem to work! A standard way of geotagging maps might be quite useful... The best match I obtained with these coordinates (Google Earth for Linux was a bit easier to align for some reason...): Corner1: 27° 3'58.22"E, 27° 2'52.93"S, Corner 2: 29°17'46.52"E, 27° 1'50.19"S, Corner 3: 29°10'32.12"E, 25° 0'18.49"S, Corner 4: 27° 2'51.61"E, 25° 6'8.66"S MoHaG (talk) 20:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


File:Civic Centre, Cape Town (cropped).jpg[edit]

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cmadler (talk) 16:01, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

OpenStreetMap now ODbL[edit]

I've updated Template:OpenStreetMap to allow odbl=yes to be specified, but haven't changed other details much. Do you still think we need to split the template? Please give us an update on the talk page. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:37, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Channel islands map[edit]

I wonder if your edit to Channel Islands location map.svg slightly affected the placing of objects on the map. In the article 2007 Alderney UFO sighting an airport now appears over the sea. JMK (talk) 19:23, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't see how it possibly could, because my edit only changed the parameters of the {{OpenStreetMap}} template in a way which doesn't even affect the output. But to test, I've reverted the edit, and the airport still appears in the same place. The coordinates used in the article are correct, so I suspect there is a problem with w:en:Template:Location map Channel Islands or with the image itself. - Htonl (talk) 20:58, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for checking, the change occurred in the last day or so, but will look elsewhere. JMK (talk) 21:04, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Possibly something to do with en:Template:Location map many? Compare 2007 Alderney UFO sighting with Alderney Airport - on the latter, the marker doesn't seem to be so far off the island, although it's still a bit off. - Htonl (talk) 21:19, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
In fact, I've looked at some other uses of en:Template:Location map and its related templates - ones with maps that I haven't edited at all - and a lot of them seem to have the marker displaced downwards from where it should be. So I suspect there may be some general problem. - Htonl (talk) 21:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Good to know, thanks. JMK (talk) 21:42, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Somebody, somewhere, is messing with the maps again. JMK (talk) 19:55, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

South African election maps[edit]

Hi there

I noticed you're behind those great 2009 GE maps for south africa, which show the results by ward or the % vote for the parties by ward. I've been working on the 2011 LGE results by ward, but I'd love to get the 2009 GE results by ward, but the IEC only reports the 2009 results by province, municipality or the way too micro voting districts. Any way I could get my hand on the data you used to create those 2009 election maps by ward? Or at least a way to access some fairly micro results for 2009 without going down to precinct level? I'm particularly interested in Port Elizabeth results.

thanks a lot! --Glhermine (talk) 17:02, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

I calculated the results per ward from the per-precinct spreadsheet - I wrote a program to do it, but it can actually be done with ordinary spreadsheet software. Anyway, you can download the per-ward results here. - Htonl (talk) 20:14, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot!

Just wondering about any boundary changes there might have been to the wards themselves between 2009 and the 2011 LGE. I have the maps for the wards used in 2011, do these 2009 results correspond to the 2011 wards or to some older boundaries? If so, do you know of any place which has some shapefiles or editable blank maps of those older wards used in 2009? thanks again --Glhermine (talk) 21:22, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

The 2009 national results correspond to the boundaries used for the 2006 municipal elections (except for some changes to municipal codes, and the transfer of Merafong City from NW to Gauteng, but the actual ward boundaries didn't change). We have editable blank maps here: File:South Africa electoral wards 2009 blank.svg, File:South Africa municipalities 2009 blank.svg and File:South Africa districts 2009 blank.svg. You can also download the boundary shapefiles here. - Htonl (talk) 22:28, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for everything! This will certainly be extremely useful to me. :) --Glhermine (talk) 00:08, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Photos[edit]

You offer to take photos in Cape Town. There are a few road signs around Cape Town since March 2011 to warn of Leopard Toad crossings. These are in Tokai road, Silvermine Road, Dryersdal, Midwood and Roscommon roads. If you can get a photo of any of these at some point, it may be useful to the Leopard Toad article. JMK (talk) 19:22, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

I should be going down to Noordhoek next week, and I'll try to get a picture of one of the signs on Silvermine Road - I know the ones you're talking about. - Htonl (talk) 01:57, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
That is a great improvement to the Kruger map. JMK (talk) 21:35, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! By the way, my visit to Noordhoek was cancelled, but I'll keep in mind taking a picture of one of those signs when I next go down there. - Htonl (talk) 09:17, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


Anglican Communion map[edit]

This map shows Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Honduras, Haiti and the Dominican Republic as grey. They are all under the jurisdiction of the Episcopal Church, USA, in the same manner as Taiwan, though Taiwan is blue. Someone needs to fix that. I would myself, but do not know how :(--Dudeman5685 (talk) 23:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Your home language maps[edit]

Hello. Are your home language maps based on primary home language or on ability to speak a language at home? My [limited] searches of the census data yielded only statistics about primary home language and not about ability to speak a language, so I'm not sure if such data exists. -- 86.85.78.174 13:43, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Previous comment by me (not logged in). -- Leuce (talk) 13:44, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Primary home language only. The 2011 census did actually ask about second languages, but that data doesn't seem to have been made available. - Htonl (talk) 14:20, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Map - Bantustans in South Africa.svg[edit]

This map (Bantustans in South Africa.svg) that you have created is excellent, as the level of detail appears to have been painstaking. I appreciate the effort you put into making it. Other maps only show approximations of boundaries, or very old and out-of-date proposed boundaries. I have been looking for a map on Wikipedia that shows the actual boundaries for the four nominally independent homelands as they existed at independence and during their existence. For the other homelands, that would also be a bonus.

So my question is, is this that map that I have been looking for? That is, are the boundaries shown the actual real-life boundaries that were in effect during the existence of the homelands?

Jeff in CA (talk) 20:40, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


That map is a best-effort attempt to reflect the actual boundaries. Currently it is based on boundary data from the National Department of Agriculture's AGIS system. I have since discovered that Africa Open Data has another boundary data file from the Directorate of Public State Land Support in the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform. They are, I believe, the authoritative source for this data. I intend quite soon to redraw the maps based on this data; there are some noticeable changes particularly to KwaZulu.
You should be aware, though, that homeland borders changed quite frequently, as land was transferred in and out of the homelands. Even the TBVC states' borders changed quite a bit after nominal independence as more land was transferred to them. My map intends to be a reflection of the situation on 26 April 1994 (the day before the homelands were dissolved). - Htonl (talk) 10:33, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
So I have now updated the map according to the authoritative DRDLR data. As best I can tell those are the official boundaries as they were by 1994. - Htonl (talk) 21:36, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Very nice. Thank you for your effort to create this!
Jeff in CA (talk) 01:25, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Lesotho relief location map.svg[edit]

Hello! According to the UN map of Lesotho File:Lesotho location map.svg has been updated. An exclave of Mafeteng in the centre of Lesotho was missing. Could you please update your relief map, too? Regards, NNW 18:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for letting me know about the update! Incidentally, there seem to be some maps in Category:SVG locator maps of districts in Lesotho (location map scheme) that will need updating as well. - Htonl (talk) 16:51, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
That's right. I'll ask User:Profoss. NNW 17:06, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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Affected:

And also:

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ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:05, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

How to make svg maps.[edit]

Hi Hotonl, I would like to know how to make svg images of maps. thank you. --Rasulnrasul (talk) 11:43, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

CousinMarriageWorld.svg[edit]

Hey, could you please fix Idaho? I don't think it's supposed to be dark red... --Prcc27 (talk) 19:49, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

File:MSM Blood Donation Map.svg[edit]

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Replicating your road maps[edit]

I'm currently working on Ghana's numbered highway system, but I'm not sure how to include a map of the network. I came across the maps you created for South Africa's national roads system, which is a perfect model for what I had in mind for my project. Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.Manny9455 (talk)