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Yes, I just noticed. Sorry I forgot, I'll see to it. -Islander 13:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


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Hello, I just noticed the changes, and was searching for your mail address, to discuss the matter more thoroughly. Anyway, you're free to delete the image, since you created a better one. (You are administrator, aren't you?) Though I could swear it is a wolf, not a fox, in this page: Övertorneås hemsida I was also wondering what license should be used for insignia? They are copyrighted, but still free to use in proper circumstances. (I have another case, where I'm slightly confused: Image:Albatross) -Islander 10:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Hej. Ber om ursakt for att jag inte la denna sidan pa min overvakningslista. Nar jag snabbmarker bilder som saknar kalla/licens sa blir det ofta sa att jag missar. Ska se om jag kan reda ut nagra av fragetecknena kring vapen och deras upphovsratt.
Det som skiljer vapen fran andra emblem (t.ex. flaggor, logotyper och sigill) ar att ett vapen defineras av en blasonering, dvs. en beskrivning i ord. I Övertorneås fall lyder blasoneringen: I fält av silver en gående svart räv, med röd tunga, mellan tre sexuddiga röda stjärnor ordnade två och en. Alla (heraldiskt korrekta) tolkningar av en blasonering ar lika korrekta, dvs. den version som Övertorneå anvander (lat os kalla den "det officiella vapnet) ar inte mer ratt an min bild eller din bild. Blasoneringen i sig ar inte upphovsrattsskyddad daremot ar tolkningar av blasoneringen skyddade av upphovsratten. Detta innebar att det officiella vapnet inte far anvandas pa wikipedia eftersom det ar skyddat medans egenskapade tolkningar kan slappas under en fri licens. Det viktiga har ar att det egenskapade vapnet ska vara en tolkning av blasoneringen inte av det officiella vapnet, det gar alltsa inte att bara andra lite i det officiella vapnet och inte heller att skapa ett eget vapen med mal att vara likt det officiella.
Aven om blasoneringen inte ar upphovsrattligt skyddad sa ar den skyddad under andra svenska lagar darfor maste alla bilder som ar baserade pa (registrerade) blasoneringar markas med mallen {{insignia-Sweden}}.
Sa i fallet med Image:Övertorneås vapen.png. Jag skulle vall egentligen saga att vapnet ar lite for likt det officiella vapnet (och med tanke pa din kommentar sa antar jag att du har utgatt fran det officiella vapnet nar du skapade det). Eftersom vapnet darfor ar harlett fran det officiella sa arver det ocksa det officiellas copyrightskydd, dvs. bilden ar ofri och kan inte anvandas pa Commons. Dock bor jag tillagga att det inte alls ar sakert att andra anvandare anser att de tva vapnenea ar for lika. Angaende varg/rav sa se foregaende kommentar om blasoneringen.
Klubbflaggor, logotyper och andra "icke-vapen" emblem ar definerade enligt grafiska beskrivningar dvs. man kan inte fritt tolka dem och skapa egna bilder eftersom alla bilder per definition ar harledda fran den officiella logon. Darfor ar alla dessa typer av logotyper ofria och kan inte anvandas pa Commons. Undantaget ar ifall logon ar sa pass enkel att den inte skyddas av upphovsratten (t.ex. bara text i vanlig font) eller om den ar gammal nog for upphovsratten att ha gatt ut. Sa vad galler Albatross.jpg ar bilden nog ofri (om den inte rakar vara tillrakligt gammal).
Jag hoppas att det besvarar en del av dina fragor. Vad var det du undrade om vektor/raster grafik? /Lokal_Profil 01:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
P.S. har nu lagt till denna sida pa min overvakningslista.
Tack för det!
Since others may be interested in the matter, I'll continue the discussion in a language more commonly known than Swedish.. Now I have the situation fairly clear regarding Swedish coats of arms, but what about foreign ones?
The age of the flag Albatross.jpg is over 50 but barely less than 75 years. (And frankly; I don't recall where I got it from, but have a feeling that it was a personal homepage of a member) Would that make it free in Scandinavia but not in the rest of Europe and USA? About club insignia generally, your explanation was so complicated that the only thing I got out of it would have been something like "It may be this or that or something else, but if in any doubt, don't use!"
My questions about vectors are rather complex, so be prepared for a long and boring reading session... :) Somewhere, maybe in the page of the Övertorneå coat of arms, you said that my bitmap image should be replaced with a vector type one. The fact is, that mine was created with a vector program (Micrographic's Designer) though the program doesn't have the feature to save it in PNG, so I had to go via I-view. Also when fetching the image back from Commons into Inkscape, it still has the possibilities to edit the different blocks in vector mode. At the other hand, when retrieving your version, it has all the features of a bitmap, apart from the grey scale, and doesn't agree to any editing. (I quite recently finally managed to download the Inkscape, so I'm not fully familiar with it yet, actually I find it partly quite annoying..) Now, my problem is that just about any image I copy from Commons (for instance to add a name in a map) behave in the same manner; it just refuses to ungroup the blocks, and treat the hole picture as one solid block. What do I do wrong? (The darn program was automatically downloading a Finnish version of Inkscape, since my computer physically is situated in a mostly Finnish-speaking area, but I think I have managed to identify the "ungroup"- command) -Islander 02:33, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
For Coat of arms the same rules apply in other countries. That is a free interpretaiton of the blasoning can be released under a free license but should be tagged with {{insignia}}. In some countries such as Germany, Flemmish part of the Netherlands, Finland etc. the official CoAs are free by law but in general the CoAs are copyrighted similarly to the Swedsih ones.
For Albatross.jpg. Since the flag is so young I wouldn't expect it to be free, so it should probalby be deleted. Assuming it is from Scandinavia it would need to be at least 70 years old before any arguments for Public Domain could be made.
Vektorgraphics. my image should be editable in Inkscape. Are you sure that you are downloading the .svg file rather then the .png file generated by the wikimedia software? If you download this version can you then edit it in Inkscape? /Lokal_Profil 14:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, it just gets more complicated. I have dug a little deeper into the history of the Albatross-symbol. It was basically created in 1937, when the Amicale Internationale Des Cap Horniers was founded in France, and would thus as a "blasoning", as you say, have existed over 70 years. The description is "The crest or symbol of Amicale Internationale is represented by the head of a white albatross on a blue backdrop surrounded by a red circle with the name of the institution in white. From his beak hangs a device in the shape of a diamond caught by the albatross". The diamond shaped "device" is told to be a lure (usually baited with pork) used to catch Albatrosses ("catch and release", that is; a superstitious sailor never kills an Albatross) to fly them like kites, for entertainment. The final version is, however, said to have been created by a Monsieur J. Allaire, who evidently still was alive in 1999. At the other hand, it doesn't seem to ever have been registered any copyright for the symbol, it is just the official symbol of the brotherhood. (As far as I know, there has never been any female sisters). So, should I draw a new one according to the description, or shall we decide that its copyright has expired?
Regarding the coat of arms; yes, I finally got it saved as an SVG-file, after quite some pondering. In Firefox there didn't appear any handle to catch it from; the "save image" didn't highlight. When I ordered "copy" (even after "select all" ), it only pasted the heading of the page. At last, when copying the complete text of "page source" into notepad, and saving named with svg extension, I managed to open it in Inkscape in vector mode. (I was quite impressed by the fox, if you have drawn it yourself in Inkscape!). Any other attempt to download any svg picture from Commons results for me in a png-file (even named xxx.svg.png!) May there be a bug in the platform? Also, clicking on the heading Edit image with external program results in the index.html appearing on my canvas. Someone with programming skills could possibly take a look? -Islander 01:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
The fox was traced from Tetenhusen-Wappen.png so no I didn't draw it myself. The easiest way I found to save the svg. files is by right-clicking the link underneath the image (on the image page) and choosing "spara länk som" ("save link as"?) in firefox. The main thing is that firefox (and probably other browsers) don't view the svg as an image but as code so there won't be a "save image as" option.
Ok, back to the albatross. An image no longer has to be registered for copyright, it aquires copyright automatically so Allaire's version is copyrighted and thus unfree. I don't really know how the descriptions work for flags etc. if the flag is defined by the above wording (i.e. wording is permanent graphics might change) then I guess you can make your own version, if the wording on the other hand just describes the graphics (i.e. the graphics is the important and the wording is just extra) then no. I'd suggest asking around. You can ask "Amicale Internationale Des Cap Horniers" but they might have no clue on the difference, another place to ask is an heraldic forum such as [1]. /Lokal_Profil 23:48, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay, now I have some clue about these things, I'll have to digest it a little. Thank you very much! -Islander 01:49, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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I imported it from Estonian WP, where it had the license GNU FDL. I beleive it would correspond to GFDL here, so I have added it. -Islander 02:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


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Unfortunately I don't remember where I found it, so I have created another, and that one may be deleted. -Islander 11:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Single Unified Login, or SUL (posted both here and at en.wp)[edit]

Hi Islander :).

I have a request that you’re probably not going to like, but I ask you to consider my message carefully and look at the relevant links I cite, as there’s a chance that in the near future you’ll be forced to do this anyway. It’s never nice for anyone to be forced into anything, so I’m contacting you now, in the hope that you’ll do this out of your own will .

You may or may not have heard of the Single Unified Login, or SUL, that is being implemented across the entire Wikimedia Foundation. In essence it means that all of one user’s accounts on each project are merged into one global account. This has two main advantages: single sign-up (you can log on to each project with the same username and password), and consistent identity (user ‘John Smith’ is the same person, whichever project you go to).

You can probably guess where this is leading. We are currently both using the same identity – I’m Islander on en.wp, meta, en.wikisource, en.wiktionary, en.wikiversity, and a number of others. You are Islander on commons, sv.wp, fr.wp, de.wp and a few others. With the SUL process now starting, we cannot continue using the same name – only one of us can be Islander.


I am afraid that I have already taken control of the global Islander account – this means that should you wish to sign up as Islander at any Wikimedia site where neither of us have signed up, you won’t be able to, as the name is now reserved for me. I have already migrated all accounts I own onto this global account – in other words, my accounts on en.wp, meta, en.wikisource etc. are now all the same. All that remains are the accounts you own.

In this situation, where two people own the same name, one has a priority over the name, as dictated here. In this case, I am afraid that it is me that has priority over the name ‘Islander’, for two reasons: firstly, though you are more active on commons than me, looking at all projects as a whole I am more active than you; secondly, I am an active sysop on en.wp, whereas you are not a sysop anywhere. For this reason, when it comes to accounts being moved out of the way of SUL migrations, your accounts would be moved for me, and not vice-versa. With this is mind, I would like to ask if you are willing to consider changing your name now, on commons and every other project you are active on, in order to avoid being told to do so later on. I know this sucks, and if I were in your position I’d be peeved, but there’s little choice.

If you do decide to change your name, you can choose any other name that is not currently in use, and a bureaucrat will move your account (and all your submissions) over to it, leaving ‘Islander’ free for my account migration. If you’re careful, and use this tool, you’ll be able to find a name not being used anywhere on the Wikimedia projects, and you’ll be able to unify all accounts preventing anyone else from taking that name.

I am really, really sorry to ask, but like I said, I feel it fairer to ask you now and give you the opportunity, rather than wait until you’re actually ousted from the name, as I have the senior claim over ‘Islander’.

If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask, either here or on my en.wikipedia talk page.

Thank you, TalkIslander 14:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Since you have made it impossible for me to use my account, I have to answer from IP:
You're absolutely right in that respect that I'll be very upset. Apparently it's also your doings behind that I suddenly am unable to access my contribution lists in any wikipedia. I can't put any other name on that than what in business circles is called a hostile takeover. Neither can I see why you claim senior rights to the nick, since you came later to wp than I did. The only reason I haven't reserved the name for me globally, is that I had no way to know it is possible, or soon compulsory. (Since Ive been more busy writing articles than chatting this and that, From your discussion page I reckon you're more in the habit of making war with fellow editors) For more than two years I have daily edited at least something, and I have been in different conflicts here now and then, and it is always a situation where the motivation for going on working on improving articles is at stake, but so far I've always managed to reach some level of consensus. I have however never been robbed of my identity before. Being a sysop is, as I have understood it, mainly to maintain a kind of justice at wikipedia, but you are by this doing the opposite; I feel exactly like I did at school when I was bullied by the big guys. I see no reason to change my identity, so I won't. (unless forced to, but in that case I really won't feel welcome at wikipedia and will thus probably leave the whole institution). -Islander(Scandinavia) (talk) 23:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
If you'd have had any sense of decency, you'd have discussed the matter before putting it into force.
Hmm, you should be able to log into your Islander account on Commons, since it hasn't been taken over yet as far as I know... giggy (:O) 01:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I am able to log in, but while inlogged, I cannot access my contribution list nor edit anything. This occurs on all the wp:s where my name is Islander, since yesterday, so it can't be any coincidence, but leaves a very obvious trail to who's responsible. The Wikipedia has been invaded by pirates. Islander (talk)
(will continue discussion here rather than at en-wp) By contribution list, I assume you mean your watchlist - I can access your contribution list no problem, right here: Special:Contributions/Islander. It's certainly not my doing, or at least if it is it's due to a bug and not by design.
I'm sorry you see it the way you do, I really am, but a few of the points you raise need adressing: "Neither can I see why you claim senior rights to the nick, since you came later to wp than I did." All of about two months later - barely anything. As for my being a sysop, you're right in a sense - it is only to maintain 'justice', as you put it. However, this in a sense makes me a more active member of the community, which, when added to my higher edit count, makes my claim to the name more senior, and not the fact that you joined a mere two months before me.
"Since Ive been more busy writing articles than chatting this and that" - that's very commendable, but might I suggest that it's always a good idea, on any site, to keep roughly on top of new and future developments. If you don't, you can't really be suprised when something like this jumps up at you.
"I have however never been robbed of my identity before" - thing is, this works both ways. 'Islander' is just as much my identity as it is yours, and hence why SUL is such a good idea. It is unfortunate that one of us has to drop the name, but that should never have been an issue in the first place - it should not have been possible for us to both take the same name, and it is unfortunate that it was.
"I feel exactly like I did at school when I was bullied by the big guys." - I'm sorry about that. Let me ask you this, though: would you have prefered, instead of me contacting you now, for a bureuacrat to contact you in a few months saying "Sorry, you must change your name now". I could have shut up and said nothing, and waited for that to happen. I felt it more polite to contact you now, however.
"I see no reason to change my identity, so I won't. (unless forced to, but in that case I really won't feel welcome at wikipedia and will thus probably leave the whole institution)." - well, that's your choice. It would be a shame to lose any valued contributor from the WikiMedia project, but there you go.
I contacted you now because (with advice from giggy) I felt it was polite, and the right thing to do. I now wish I'd stayed quiet and let the bureaucrats deal with it further down the line. TheIslander 12:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
It would have been polite if you had discussed with me before going into action. As it is now, I suddenly one morning find me unable to edit on the sv:wp, where I daily contribute, and clicking on "my contributions" brings up a long litania of errors. (Of course I can watch the list the same way as anybody else, but that's not the same thing, is it?) Eventually, logging in at en:wp (which I don't do on a daily basis) I there got a message saying "sorry, I have conquered your identity". I don't find that very polite.
I agree that two months isn't a remarkably long time, but as far as I know, you acquired the name Islander at en:wp in February 2008, and thus can't really claim you have used it more. The fact that you have made more edits at en:wikipedia (some 7000) than I at the Swedish (barely 2500) is probably due only to you being a faster typer, since I have spent most of my spare time at the computer the last two years. Additionally, most of those edits of yours were made under the user name TheIslander.
It is completely irrelevant contacting me at all at this stage, now when I stand before fait accompli, but even more rude to shrug your shoulders and leave the dirty work to the administrators. I see no other way than to bring this to the Arbitration Committee. -Islander 16:22 3 June 2008

Obviously someone has corrected the bug that prevented me from using my user name, because now it is possible again. (an odd thing was that I had access to my watchlist, but not my contribution list) Anyway it hardly can stop the process of my identity being conquered, so I really want this matter settled by some not involved person, as a global prejudicate. -Islander 17:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

The easiest solution seems to me that the enwp sysop goes back to using en:User:TheIslander. /Pieter Kuiper 18:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I am (global) user:Jorva from svWP. I was notified by svWP-Islander about this conflict on the svWP talk page for user conflicts. I think it is very rude to claim the global account without trying to talk to other account holders first. As enWP-Islander have been editing under the name Islander much shorter time than svWP-Islander I think that svWP-Islander have more rights to the name. If someone is a sysop or not is really not important in this case. Sysops do not have any more rights than ordinary users. I suggest that enWP-Islander changes back to the name s/he had before changing to "Islander" (i e "TheIslander") and that svWP-Islander are given the rights to the global user account "Islander". Jorva 18:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

This is now being discussed in a multitude of different places, by a multitude of different people. No more need join in. For the record, however: "enWP-Islander have been editing under the name Islander much shorter time than svWP-Islander" - I registered on the 17th April 2006, while sv Islander registered on the 24th March 2006 - less than a month before me, thus there is no way that I can be described as "editing for a much shorter time than sv Islander", or being a much newer user than sv Islander or anything. TheIslander 18:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Isn't that a bit disingenuous? The April 2006 registration was probably moved in January 2008 from TheIslander to Islander on enwp. /Pieter Kuiper 18:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Not really. I registered in April 2006, therefore I have been a Wikipedia user since April 2006, not January 2008. I would have used the name 'Islander' from the start, had it not been taken (and it wasn't taken by sv Islander, but by someone that never used the account), and that should be crystal clear from the fact that my name was 'TheIslander'. What I do feel is that this is a matter between myself and sv Islander, and though I personally welcome the input of one or two users to mediate (such as Bastique, who has thus far been textbook-neutral), I don't wish half of the sv:wp userbase to join in, which at this rate they will be. TheIslander 18:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I "joined in" by giving you a fair suggestion of a possible way to solve the conflict. I am myself a sysop at svWP and I strongly disagree with the principle that a sysop has more rights than an ordinary user to a username; I did not ask for that kind of privilegies and I don't want them either. I think that the person who has actually used the name most has more rights to the name; not the person that wanted to have the name but registered another (regardless of reason for this). If you two can not agree and if you do not want others to be involved I suggest you to take the matter to Requests for arbitration (eqv). Jorva 21:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to jump in again, but the closer I look at this, the more it looks like a calculated attempt to hijack an attratcive username by abuse of process and sysop privilege. Contrary to TheIslander's suggestion that sysop status override other statuses is a "policy" dicate, this is actually a polocy that is less than a week old. Claerly aware of this change since he edited that page on June 1, the same day, TheIslander asks User:Giddy for advice how to approach Islander, whom TheIslander has known about since February. I think that we have the contours of a minor scandal here and TheIslander cannot pretend that this is a matter that only concerns him and Islander anymore. This is serious.--Bothnia 23:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Bothnia, I think you are blowing this out of proportion. Hopefully this will be resolved, without scandal or drama, to the satisfaction of en:User:Islander and sv:user:Islander. I think you should allow Cary to mediate and wait to make a major issue out of this particular case until after you have seen the results. In short, calm down and wait a few days to see how it works out. I should point out, again, that the Swedish Wikipedia Islander cannot lose his sv.wiki account without the approval of local bureaucrats to your project. AvruchT * ER 00:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed that en:Islander is now accusing me of harassment and I will not bother him anymore. I may have used sharp words, but I do not want to make this a discussion about me. The only reason I have taken on this is that I know that sv:Islander is distressed about the way this has been handled and no one more knowledgeable than me has taken up the case. I have written to one of the sysops at Meta Wiki to state the case and I hope this can be discussed in public, since there will be policy implications that will affect everybody.--Bothnia 01:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on my answer to the mail from Cary Bass, and will post the mail also on my discussion pages on en:wp and here. I'm sorry that I'm slow on answering right now; my 101-year old father is getting weaker and needs my attention too. -Islander 09:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


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The matter is taken care of. (with the help of User:Lokal Profil, thanks) -Islander (talk) 10:51, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


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I have replaced the stamp with another picture of the vessel, that is by no doubt in public domain. -Islander (talk) 21:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

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Suomen leijona[edit]

Moi, mahtaako ottamassasi kuvassa todellakin olla Suomen leijona, kun esimerkiksi Merenkulkulaitoksen sivuilla se on ihan eri näköinen rakennelma. –Makele-90 (talk) 22:24, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Kyllä se näin vaan on, ellei Kapteeni Mikko Partanen olis navigoinut aivan päin mäntyä! MKH:n kuvassa helikopteritasanne on vielä paikalla. Lehtijuttujen mukaan se katkesi ja putosi mereen jään tärinästä johtuen 1992, ja tilalle asennettiin tilapäinen loisto ja tutkaheijastin joka ilmeiseti oli siellä käydessäni 2009. Jos katsoo tarkkaan, näkee että alusta jolla se seisoo on ehkä se metrin halkaisijaltaan ja vähän vinossa, niinkuin Laurellin kirjassa kerrotaan. En sitten tiedä, onko helikopteritasanne mahdollisesti korjattu sen jälkeen kun kävin siellä. Islander (talk) 18:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Näin se taitaa olla. Turun Sanomissa juttu aiheesta. Kumma kyllä, tietoja ei ole päivitetty viranomaisten (merenkulkulaitos nyk. Liikennevirasto) sivuille tai minnekkään muuallekkaan. Sinun ottamasi kuvan lisäksi löysin netistä vain yhden muun kuvan tästä uudesta versiosta, joten arvokas kuva! Täytynee päivittää tuota fi-wikin artikkelia kun ehtii. –Makele-90 (talk) 20:33, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Mielenkiintoinen artikkeli TS:ssa! Niin perusteelista tietoa en ole ennen asiasta lukenutkaan. Tavallaan haikeata että majakat ovat jäämässä historiaan (vaikka en usko että kokonaan), mutta AIS on oikeasti nerokas ja yksinkertainen laite, joka on pakollinen kaikissa senkokoisissa aluksissa jotka olisivat vaarassa Leijonan matalan takia; syvyys ilman kasuunirakennetta lienee 10 metrin nurkilla. Merenkulkulaitos tuntuu päivittävän pienveneilijöille tarkoitetut sivut aika sattumanvaraisesti. Islander (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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