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Hello, JMvanDijk!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

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File source is not properly indicated: File:Blason Wapen Personal Arms of Willem Alexander of the Netherlands Orange and Nassau.jpg[edit]

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Magog the Ogre (talk) 20:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Blason Wapen Personal Arms of Willem Alexander of the Netherlands Orange and Nassau.jpg[edit]

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Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 11:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Maxima (and Amalia of Orange) Netherlands Oranje-Nassau Personal Arms[edit]

Wolf I
Wolf II

Dear JMvanDijk: The Coat of Arms of the Zorreguieta-family in the Royal Arms is different: -> http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/encyclopedie/monarchie/wapens/wapens-van-leden-van-het-koninklijk-huis --> http://www.leibbrandt.com/leibbrandt_archive/wappen_coat_of_arms/wapen_willem+maxima.jpg /-> http://www.ovkoudekerk.nl/maximama.html (for example, the missing two black animals are wolfs, the trees cypresses (-> http://www.heraldik-wiki.de/index.php/Zypresse_(Heraldik) ), the ground something like water.) Would You change it, please? Yours faithfully, LeoDavid (talk) 13:25, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

PS:Look at this -> http://heraldicaargentina.blogspot.de/2013/04/escudo-de-la-reina-maxima-de-los-paises.html Yours faithfully, LeoDavid (talk) 12:07, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I put another question on File_talk:Maxima_Netherlands_Oranje-Nassau_Personal_Arms.PNG, I hope you can take a look at that as well. Perhaps in this case it makes sense to rename the file to something about the CoA of the princesses, and upload a new version of this under the Maxima-filename? The shape is of course a detail, but it would be nice to have it correct. Effeietsanders (talk) 08:58, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the updates! As you both noticed, I took the description off the Dutch Royal House website. The resolution isn't very good there, and the all the description says is "a castle with 3 portals". So, I will take a look. I can't promise fast turn around as I do this as stress relief from my day job. ;-). JMvanDijk (talk)

I guess it's a translation error. Dutch "torens" means "towers", not "portals". But German "Tore" means "portals". The original Dutch text of the royal decree: Besluit van 25 januari 2002, houdende verlening van wapen en onderscheidingsvlag aan Hare Koninklijke Hoogheid Prinses Máxima: "In een hartschild van goud, komende uit een golvende schildvoet van azuur, een gekanteelde (= crenellated) burcht (= castle), waarop drie gekanteelde (= crenellated) torens, de middelste hoger dan de andere (= the mean tower is a shade higher), het geheel van keel, en vergezeld van twee toegewende wolven (= wolfs) van sabel, elk gaande over een uitgerukte cipres (= cypresses) van natuurlijke kleur." (this presentation of the CoA is for Maxima, but the substance is as well as in the presentation for her royal children: Besluit van 21 november 2003 tot vaststelling van het wapen van kinderen die geboren mochten worden uit het huwelijk van Zijne Koninklijke Hoogheid Prins Willem-Alexander Claus George Ferdinand, Prins van Oranje, Prins der Nederlanden, Prins van Oranje-Nassau, Jonkheer van Amsberg met Hare Koninklijke Hoogheid Prinses Máxima der Nederlanden, Prinses van Oranje-Nassau, mevrouw van Amsberg). (interview with the designer of the CoA) Yours faithfully, LeoDavid (talk) 21:04, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Dear JMvanDijk, thank You very much, that's better! Now, only a little "point of criticism" remains: "een gekanteelde (= crenellated) burcht (= castle), waarop (= above) drie (= three) gekanteelde (= crenellated) torens (= towers), de middelste hoger dan de andere" (= the mean tower above the castle is a shade higher than the two outside-towers above the castle), if You know what I mean, but this is really a tiny detail, of course. Yours faithfully, LeoDavid (talk) 07:54, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Coat of arms of the Zorreguieta family

Like this ;-) LeoDavid (talk) 14:37, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey guys, needed some stress relief yesterday, so let me know if the below works. I took the design from Mr. Bunel's website. There is some well known wiki-bug with the thumbnails, i.e. it takes a while for the thumbs to propagate around the various parts of wiki, so you might see the old one reflected in the thumb on some pages for a while. When you click on it, the new/correct version will come up though. :JMvanDijk (talk)


Queen Maxima arms
Thanks for the work. I think there are two improvements still possible. The first would be the towers on top of the castle, that should be three towers probably, as in the description (and see also image above). Finally, as Máxima is a married woman, she should have an oval shield & heart shield. The best 'proof' for this can be found in this digital book, page 101. The towers are less visible there. Effeietsanders (talk) 17:25, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Let me get to the 3 towers. Not sure about the oval shield: that is not really followed in Holland as stringently as in the rest of the world, esp. the Spanish speaking world. Maxima's arms on the Dutch Royal family website do not use an oval or heart shield. 207.45.43.67 sorry, that was me, I timed out. JMvanDijk (talk)

As you can see, I updated the file with the 3 small towers on top of the main tower. Give it some time to propagate around the various wikis. JMvanDijk (talk)

Hello JMvanDijk, I'd also like to chime in here. Per the blazon, the inescutcheon of the Zorreguieta family should have a wavy base ("golvende schildvoet"), and the horns are "plated argent" ("beslagen van zilver"). See also the argent/azure stripes here. Regards, De728631 (talk) 19:38, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Btw, it looks a lot like you used some SVG templates from Commons to create your version of the arms, e.g. File:Meuble héraldique Huchet.svg. If so, you need to attribute the creators of these elements and the specific files you used. See also {{derived from}}. De728631 (talk) 19:55, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
ok, added a wavy surface. Pls wait a while while it propagates. JMvanDijk (talk)
Thank you. In the meantime, I've made an SVG version: File:Maxima Netherlands Oranje-Nassau Personal Arms.svg. De728631 (talk) 22:30, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Queen Maxima arms
It's very much better now. Here's my try, it's less qualitative, but close to the blazon and heraldic correct. Notice: as a married woman, her shield is oval ("Als getrouwde vrouw voert zij het wapen in ovale schildvorm." -> http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/encyclopedie/monarchie/wapens/wapens-van-leden-van-het-koninklijk-huis/ Only her royal children (today three daughters), princesses as well as maybe future princes, concerning the constitutional emancipation respective the Dutch devolution of the crown since 1983, are allowed to use the traditional triangular shape with also a triangular heartshield. And usually, the insides of the sound openings of the hunting horns are red. Have a look at this digital royal Dutch armorial: -> http://www.wapenschilder.nl/goudenleeuw/default.html this digital book (p. 101 for Queen Maxima, and p. 113 for her children, the princesses of the Netherlands), (as You can see as well: http://www.leibbrandt.com/leibbrandt_archive/wappen_coat_of_arms/wapen_willem+maxima.jpg / ). Best regards, LeoDavid (talk) 06:52, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Aah, missed that sentence. I will work on an oval version....

sorry, forgot to sign that JMvanDijk (talk)

for the horn, I've seen it colored many different ways in detail. I can't find a definitive reference. JMvanDijk (talk)
without a definitive reference, I have to admit, I'm much too lazy a person to go back an change all the horns. ;-) JMvanDijk (talk)
In the end it all depends on the blazon. Anyhow, I've updated my version of the horns. Now I might go ahead and create an oval version of the shield. Hrm. De728631 (talk) 14:57, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, it depends on the blazon: "Besluit van 25 januari 2002, houdende verlening van wapen en onderscheidingsvlag aan Hare Koninklijke Hoogheid Prinses Máxima: Wij Beatrix, bij de gratie Gods, Koningin der Nederlanden, Prinses van Oranje-Nassau, enz. enz. enz.

Op de voordracht van Onze Minister-President, Minister van Algemene Zaken, gedaan mede namens Onze Ministers van Binnenlandse Zaken en Koninkrijksrelaties en van Defensie, van 22 januari 2002, nr. 02M423598;

Gelezen het advies van de Hoge Raad van Adel van 17 januari 2002;

Hebben goedgevonden en verstaan:

[...] II en III in goud een jachthoorn van azuur, gesnoerd en geopend van keel, beslagen van zilver; [...]" -> with red carrying straps, red sound openings and silvern fittings, like (then) Queen Beatrix decided. Well, in my opinion the center shield should be oval, too, as seen in the digital armorial on page 101. Greetings, LeoDavid (talk) 21:42, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Agreed and done. :) Good night, De728631 (talk) 22:50, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Ok, updated King Willem-Alexander's personal arms with the white fittings. Will do Maxima's when I get around to making the oval version. JMvanDijk (talk)
Been very busy at work and with a new baby. Posted the oval version above on the proper pages I know of, as I did not want you to wait until I have time. JMvanDijk (talk)
Finally posted Maxima arms with white fittings. Onto the oval version. JMvanDijk (talk)

File:Prince Frederick of the Netherlands.PNG[edit]

There were two princes called Frederick of the Netherlands, and so there are also two categories here at Commons. Could you please update the description of this image and indicate which of two princes these arms belonged to? De728631 (talk) 21:23, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Look in summary description of file: "English: Arms of Prince Frederick of the Netherlands (1797–1881)..." JMvanDijk (talk)
Yes, I chose to add these dates based on Simple Family Tree House of Orange 1450 -1815. De728631 (talk) 14:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Lion of Brabant/Belgium[edit]

I can offer a quick solution by adapting one of the above lions. Lemmens, Tom (talk) 20:54, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

I think this would be a nice addition. Thanks.

JMvanDijk (talk)

Any preference? Or, of course, both are possible as well, but that makes it even harder if one has to decide which one to use in what context. Lemmens, Tom (talk) 14:49, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
It seems to me that the one on the left is more representative of the periods based on the sources I've seen. txs!

JMvanDijk (talk)

Wapenschild van Brabant.svg Lemmens, Tom (talk) 09:38, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Looks good. JMvanDijk (talk)